Show me your Reasons why or why not the Wii is Next-Gen.

Okay, here are my reasons why Wii is'nt Next-Gen. Don't get all mad and stuff. Remember, I want your to hear your reasons too!!

-It only uses 480p. No Hd.

-Cost far more least than the other guys.

-Mostly all games are average. (According to gamespot ratings)

-Hardware is much less powerful in this gen.

Well here are my main reasons. Care to share yours, :)

Have A Nice Day. :)

Okay, here are my reasons why Wii is'nt Next-Gen. Don't get all mad and stuff. Remember, I want your to hear your reasons too!!

-It only uses 480p. No Hd.

-Cost far more least than the other guys.

-Mostly all games are average. (According to gamespot ratings)

-Hardware is much less powerful in this gen.

Well here are my main reasons. Care to share yours, :)

Have A Nice Day. :)

GatoFeo

While I don't agree... Wii IS next gen...

And why the hell does it matter that is costs less? Or wait, more least I mean.

[QUOTE="GatoFeo"]

Okay, here are my reasons why Wii is'nt Next-Gen. Don't get all mad and stuff. Remember, I want your to hear your reasons too!!

-It only uses 480p. No Hd.

-Cost far more least than the other guys.

-Mostly all games are average. (According to gamespot ratings)

-Hardware is much less powerful in this gen.

Well here are my main reasons. Care to share yours, :)

Have A Nice Day. :)

Homesrfan

While I don't agree... Wii IS next gen...

And why the hell does it matter that is costs less? Or wait, more least I mean.

Using your logic. Every single plug and play system is now next gen. Graphics, Price and physics don't matter right? Graphics, AI, and physics are what make next gen. Physics being the most important. Whgy not buy a Gamecube for $250 and mod it to use the controller? I could mod both my ps3 and 360 right now to have the same exact controller functions with top graphics physics and AI.

/end 

[QUOTE="Homesrfan"][QUOTE="GatoFeo"]

Okay, here are my reasons why Wii is'nt Next-Gen. Don't get all mad and stuff. Remember, I want your to hear your reasons too!!

-It only uses 480p. No Hd.

-Cost far more least than the other guys.

-Mostly all games are average. (According to gamespot ratings)

-Hardware is much less powerful in this gen.

Well here are my main reasons. Care to share yours, :)

Have A Nice Day. :)

DoctorBunny

While I don't agree... Wii IS next gen...

And why the hell does it matter that is costs less? Or wait, more least I mean.

Using your logic. Every single plug and play system is now next gen. Graphics, Price and physics don't matter right? Graphics, AI, and physics are what make next gen. Physics being the most important. Whgy not buy a Gamecube for $250 and mod it to use the controller? I could mod both my ps3 and 360 right now to have the same exact controller functions with top graphics physics and AI.

/end

Except that it wouldn't be Nintendo's next console.. making it next gen (current gen now). The controller is STANDARD... and no, as long as it is a new console, I don't see how it's not next (current) gen.

Okay, here are my reasons why Wii is'nt Next-Gen. Don't get all mad and stuff. Remember, I want your to hear your reasons too!!

-It only uses 480p. No Hd.

-Cost far more least than the other guys.

-Mostly all games are average. (According to gamespot ratings)

-Hardware is much less powerful in this gen.

Well here are my main reasons. Care to share yours, :)

Have A Nice Day. :)

GatoFeo

'Cost far more least than the other guys'

er.. so you want to pay MORE money? :?  Ratings dont mean everything. They give you a general idea of how the game is, but they dont exactly tell you if its good or not. That, is up to you(the gamer).

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="Homesrfan"][QUOTE="GatoFeo"]

Okay, here are my reasons why Wii is'nt Next-Gen. Don't get all mad and stuff. Remember, I want your to hear your reasons too!!

-It only uses 480p. No Hd.

-Cost far more least than the other guys.

-Mostly all games are average. (According to gamespot ratings)

-Hardware is much less powerful in this gen.

Well here are my main reasons. Care to share yours, :)

Have A Nice Day. :)

Homesrfan

While I don't agree... Wii IS next gen...

And why the hell does it matter that is costs less? Or wait, more least I mean.

Using your logic. Every single plug and play system is now next gen. Graphics, Price and physics don't matter right? Graphics, AI, and physics are what make next gen. Physics being the most important. Whgy not buy a Gamecube for $250 and mod it to use the controller? I could mod both my ps3 and 360 right now to have the same exact controller functions with top graphics physics and AI.

/end

Except that it wouldn't be Nintendo's next console.. making it next gen (current gen now). The controller is STANDARD... and no, as long as it is a new console, I don't see how it's not next (current) gen.

How about slapping a new name on the Xbox and giving it a motion sensing controller.

Next-gen? 

Because a new controller doesn't make a console next-gen.-Beowulf

Online, updated hardware, a completely new system, a new interface, and many new various features don't make it next-gen as well?

Face it guys, Wii is 'next gen'. It's not as powerful as 360 or PS3, but it's still next (current) gen. 

[QUOTE="Homesrfan"][QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="Homesrfan"][QUOTE="GatoFeo"]

Okay, here are my reasons why Wii is'nt Next-Gen. Don't get all mad and stuff. Remember, I want your to hear your reasons too!!

-It only uses 480p. No Hd.

-Cost far more least than the other guys.

-Mostly all games are average. (According to gamespot ratings)

-Hardware is much less powerful in this gen.

Well here are my main reasons. Care to share yours, :)

Have A Nice Day. :)

-Beowulf

While I don't agree... Wii IS next gen...

And why the hell does it matter that is costs less? Or wait, more least I mean.

Using your logic. Every single plug and play system is now next gen. Graphics, Price and physics don't matter right? Graphics, AI, and physics are what make next gen. Physics being the most important. Whgy not buy a Gamecube for $250 and mod it to use the controller? I could mod both my ps3 and 360 right now to have the same exact controller functions with top graphics physics and AI.

/end

Except that it wouldn't be Nintendo's next console.. making it next gen (current gen now). The controller is STANDARD... and no, as long as it is a new console, I don't see how it's not next (current) gen.

How about slapping a new name on the Xbox and giving it a motion sensing controller.

Next-gen?

of course it is..  

Not Next Gen Because:

Terrible graphics

No HD 

Not Even DVDs

Motion Sensing doesn't work with many genres

No HDD

Online multiplayer is almost non-existant

Too many lackluster games

Why It's Next Gen:

It's the newest Nintendo console

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="Homesrfan"][QUOTE="GatoFeo"]

Okay, here are my reasons why Wii is'nt Next-Gen. Don't get all mad and stuff. Remember, I want your to hear your reasons too!!

-It only uses 480p. No Hd.

-Cost far more least than the other guys.

-Mostly all games are average. (According to gamespot ratings)

-Hardware is much less powerful in this gen.

Well here are my main reasons. Care to share yours, :)

Have A Nice Day. :)

Homesrfan

While I don't agree... Wii IS next gen...

And why the hell does it matter that is costs less? Or wait, more least I mean.

Using your logic. Every single plug and play system is now next gen. Graphics, Price and physics don't matter right? Graphics, AI, and physics are what make next gen. Physics being the most important. Whgy not buy a Gamecube for $250 and mod it to use the controller? I could mod both my ps3 and 360 right now to have the same exact controller functions with top graphics physics and AI.

/end

Except that it wouldn't be Nintendo's next console.. making it next gen (current gen now). The controller is STANDARD... and no, as long as it is a new console, I don't see how it's not next (current) gen.

Releasing a console does not make it next gen. There are plenty and I mean plenty of low end budget consoles out there being released all of the time. Why aren't they called next gen? They do not have the graphic quality, the AI quality or the physics quality that PS3 and 360 posess.  But using your logic, they are all next gen. So if they rereleased the NES with a new controller, would you call it next gen?

Not taking away from the wii though, its just not next gen. It is last gen. It does nothing to improve on games except for a controller which has been done for plug n play type systems for awhile, just not entirely wireless. Last gen graphics, Last gen physics, last gen AI, motion sensor controller thats been used on games for awhile, just not standard to a big name console. That does not equal next gen. 

[QUOTE="Homesrfan"][QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="Homesrfan"][QUOTE="GatoFeo"]

Okay, here are my reasons why Wii is'nt Next-Gen. Don't get all mad and stuff. Remember, I want your to hear your reasons too!!

-It only uses 480p. No Hd.

-Cost far more least than the other guys.

-Mostly all games are average. (According to gamespot ratings)

-Hardware is much less powerful in this gen.

Well here are my main reasons. Care to share yours, :)

Have A Nice Day. :)

-Beowulf

While I don't agree... Wii IS next gen...

And why the hell does it matter that is costs less? Or wait, more least I mean.

Using your logic. Every single plug and play system is now next gen. Graphics, Price and physics don't matter right? Graphics, AI, and physics are what make next gen. Physics being the most important. Whgy not buy a Gamecube for $250 and mod it to use the controller? I could mod both my ps3 and 360 right now to have the same exact controller functions with top graphics physics and AI.

/end

Except that it wouldn't be Nintendo's next console.. making it next gen (current gen now). The controller is STANDARD... and no, as long as it is a new console, I don't see how it's not next (current) gen.

How about slapping a new name on the Xbox and giving it a motion sensing controller.

Next-gen? 

The Wii is next generation because it came out at the same time as the other two.  It is more powerful then the Xbox (the most powerful of last gen)

[QUOTE="-Beowulf"]Because a new controller doesn't make a console next-gen.Homesrfan

Online, updated hardware, a completely new system, a new interface, and many new various features don't make it next-gen as well?

Face it guys, Wii is 'next gen'. It's not as powerful as 360 or PS3, but it's still next (current) gen.

Online was set last year, both ps2 and xbox had it. Updated to the power of a last gen console (xbox) and features that were available mostly in last gen. Dont even say the ability to download games, you could do that last gen on the xbox too. So i'm still waiting. 

[QUOTE="Homesrfan"]

[QUOTE="-Beowulf"]Because a new controller doesn't make a console next-gen.DoctorBunny

Online, updated hardware, a completely new system, a new interface, and many new various features don't make it next-gen as well?

Face it guys, Wii is 'next gen'. It's not as powerful as 360 or PS3, but it's still next (current) gen.

Online was set last year, both ps2 and xbox had it. Updated to the power of a last gen console (xbox) and features that were available mostly in last gen. Dont even say the ability to download games, you could do that last gen on the xbox too. So i'm still waiting.

If its not "NEXT GEN" In your Eyes, that does not mean its Not next gen period 

[QUOTE="-Beowulf"][QUOTE="Homesrfan"][QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="Homesrfan"][QUOTE="GatoFeo"]

Okay, here are my reasons why Wii is'nt Next-Gen. Don't get all mad and stuff. Remember, I want your to hear your reasons too!!

-It only uses 480p. No Hd.

-Cost far more least than the other guys.

-Mostly all games are average. (According to gamespot ratings)

-Hardware is much less powerful in this gen.

Well here are my main reasons. Care to share yours, :)

Have A Nice Day. :)

Grodus5

While I don't agree... Wii IS next gen...

And why the hell does it matter that is costs less? Or wait, more least I mean.

Using your logic. Every single plug and play system is now next gen. Graphics, Price and physics don't matter right? Graphics, AI, and physics are what make next gen. Physics being the most important. Whgy not buy a Gamecube for $250 and mod it to use the controller? I could mod both my ps3 and 360 right now to have the same exact controller functions with top graphics physics and AI.

/end

Except that it wouldn't be Nintendo's next console.. making it next gen (current gen now). The controller is STANDARD... and no, as long as it is a new console, I don't see how it's not next (current) gen.

How about slapping a new name on the Xbox and giving it a motion sensing controller.

Next-gen?

The Wii is next generation because it came out at the same time as the other two. It is more powerful then the Xbox (the most powerful of last gen)

Really now? The best games of xbox still kill the best of the wii. Also in depth hardware talk showed how the original xbox was in fact more powerful. The bottlenecks of the wii and how far you could push the xbox put it almost at neck and neck.

[QUOTE="Homesrfan"]

[QUOTE="-Beowulf"]Because a new controller doesn't make a console next-gen.DoctorBunny

Online, updated hardware, a completely new system, a new interface, and many new various features don't make it next-gen as well?

Face it guys, Wii is 'next gen'. It's not as powerful as 360 or PS3, but it's still next (current) gen.

Online was set last year, both ps2 and xbox had it. Updated to the power of a last gen console (xbox) and features that were available mostly in last gen. Dont even say the ability to download games, you could do that last gen on the xbox too. So i'm still waiting.

But the gamecube couldn't...

NEXT GEN. 

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="Homesrfan"]

[QUOTE="-Beowulf"]Because a new controller doesn't make a console next-gen.Homesrfan

Online, updated hardware, a completely new system, a new interface, and many new various features don't make it next-gen as well?

Face it guys, Wii is 'next gen'. It's not as powerful as 360 or PS3, but it's still next (current) gen.

Online was set last year, both ps2 and xbox had it. Updated to the power of a last gen console (xbox) and features that were available mostly in last gen. Dont even say the ability to download games, you could do that last gen on the xbox too. So i'm still waiting.

But the gamecube couldn't...

NEXT GEN.

Umm, the Gamecube COULD go online. PSO much? Gamecube had online, has gamecube/xbox graphics and physics and AI.. New Controller. As the nintendo fan you are, you didn't even know it could go online? congrats. 

Because a new controller doesn't make a console next-gen.-Beowulf

because a new graphics card is next gen? 

built in wireless, something a $400 system does not even come with.

[QUOTE="-Beowulf"]Because a new controller doesn't make a console next-gen.oback

because a new graphics card is next gen?

I''m guessing this is either your first or second console? Physics are the #1 upgrade in each consoles successor. Graphics are the 2nd. 1st and 2nd timers will love the wii, but anyone with a lust for gaming will not. I can't stand any of the games on it. They seem like they are made for 10 year olds. Zelda the exception but I picked it up for GC. A lot funner without the remote which was annoying.

Wii is the gateway console for people to get into games. Think of it as a training kiosk when you get your very first job. 

built in wireless, something a $400 system does not even come with.

out0v0rder

Ethernet > Wireless for online gaming. ANY online gamer, goes for pc gaming as well, knows this. Seeing you have a UT logo, im suprised you don't. It's nice for laptops and searching the net but horrible for gaming unless if you buy a $120 router, which the card in the Wii I very much has support for. 

Wii isn't next gen.  It's current gen, along with the PS3 and 360.Dark_Knight6

Just to add to that:

...and anyone who fails to understand that is a fool.

• Nintendo DS: 471,000
• Wii: 360,000
• PlayStation 2: 194,000
• PlayStation Portable: 183,000
• Xbox 360: 174,000
• GameBoy Advance: 84,000
• PlayStation 3: 82,000
• GameCube: 13,000

Just to clear a few things up

-The game cube CAN go online

-The Wii CAN go online  for downloading games

-The wii can store pictures,mp3 and such

It is next gen shure its a powerhouse like the ps3 or 360 but it brings something new to the table. All you gamers who are saying its  a kiddy toy are full of yourselves i know plenty of hardcore gamers who own and play the Wii. The wii also has the distinct social advantage because its just fun to play it with people and laugh at each other. Physics and graphics are not the most important thing they may be for 'you' but don't speak for the whole gamer community. The wii is is Nintendos new console so its its next gen (current gen), if hardware is all that defines next gen that what has the PC had (4 million generations).

Release date: 2006

Life expectatncy: around 5-7 years.

There, an undeniable, unopinion based show of why it's next gen. That's the most solid answer to this.

Because a new controller doesn't make a console next-gen.-Beowulf

[QUOTE="-Beowulf"]Because a new controller doesn't make a console next-gen.oback

because a new graphics card is next gen?

Yes.  

[QUOTE="-Beowulf"]Because a new controller doesn't make a console next-gen.gamer0100

Yea but Wii still can't produce 4D graphics or commit arson :P.

[QUOTE="gamer0100"][QUOTE="-Beowulf"]Because a new controller doesn't make a console next-gen.archpro

Yea but Wii still can't produce 4D graphics or commit arson :P.

I'm gonna take the side of the Wii NOT being next-gen. Here's why:

- Next-gen hasn't started yet, and won't for several years.

Have A Nice Day. :)

Okay, A.) it's a seventh generation console. That kinda qualifies it right there. B.) It's current gen, there boss.

Because a new controller doesn't make a console next-gen.-Beowulf

I'm gonna take the side of the Wii NOT being next-gen. Here's why:

- Next-gen hasn't started yet, and won't for several years.

Have A Nice Day. :)

Ganon_919

Can you say...

/thread 

It's going to get pretty hairy this discussion, so to save space I'll just say the Wii is defnitely closer to the capabilities of GCN/PS2/Xbox generation, and much further away from the capabilities of Xbox 360/PS3.

You can like it or not, take it or leave it. Me, personally, I'm disappointed that the Wii, coming out in 2006 (the same year as PS3 and the PC unveiling new duo processors and graphics cards) shares more family traits with a generation that came and gone over 5 years ago. The Wii bears little resemblance to the Xbox 360/PS3 machines and it should at least share more considering the year it came out in.

That disturbs many people and that's why the Wii is usually not included as part of the pack. It's not the time of release that is the issue, it's really the hardware. When you have a sub-1Ghz processor in 2007 when elementary school kids have computers more powerful, something sounds waaaay wrong.

How bout this... who cares? the 360 and PS3 are already outdated compared to the PC. Please tell me what makes those consoles next gen? what does this generation of consoles have that isnt already on PC? Sorry doctor bunny but your logic fails. Wii is next gen simply because its an upgrade from last gen. Nintendo was smart by not focusing on graphics and power since not even the 360 or PS3 have the best. Nintendo gets all the people who dont care too much about graphics and PC gets all the ones who do :lol:Silenthps

WEll HOW BOUT THIS THE WII IS A GAMECUBE WITH A MOTION SENSING CONTROLLER ReaLLY ALL THEY HAD 2 DO WAS ADD A MOTION CONTROLLER for GC instead of making a new console the wii will get old fast only matter of time as we advance into HD END OF DICUSSION

The Wii is not a next-gen system

The Xbox 360 is not a next-gen system

The PS33 is not a next-gen system

All of the above are current-gen systems :roll:

The Xbox 360 came after the Xbox therefore the Xbox 360 is CURRENT GEN.

The Wii came after the GameCube therefore the Wii is CURRENT GEN.

The PS3 came after the PS2 therefore the PS3 is CURRENT GEN.

Honestly, its not a hard concept.

The Xbox 360 came after the Xbox therefore the Xbox 360 is CURRENT GEN.

The Wii came after the GameCube therefore the Wii is CURRENT GEN.

The PS3 came after the PS2 therefore the PS3 is CURRENT GEN.

Honestly, its not a hard concept.

ganon546

Yup, just can the BS, everything has been released, this is the new and current generation, get used to it chumps. 

its not next gen because nintendo said it isn't -- so, tc, stfu :) in the nicest way possible or course :)

wii it 'other' gen according to ninty.

[QUOTE="out0v0rder"]

built in wireless, something a $400 system does not even come with.

DoctorBunny

Ethernet > Wireless for online gaming. ANY online gamer, goes for pc gaming as well, knows this. Seeing you have a UT logo, im suprised you don't. It's nice for laptops and searching the net but horrible for gaming unless if you buy a $120 router, which the card in the Wii I very much has support for. 

ive been ut'ing just fine with my wireless setup for goin on 3 years now, i really think youre wrong about a $120.00 router. Im using the one that came with my ISP.(free)

seeing as my internet only runs at 3MBPS, and my wireless network runs at about ~20MBPS, i dont see whats so bad.

How bout this... who cares? the 360 and PS3 are already outdated compared to the PC. Please tell me what makes those consoles next gen? what does this generation of consoles have that isnt already on PC? Sorry doctor bunny but your logic fails. Wii is next gen simply because its an upgrade from last gen. Nintendo was smart by not focusing on graphics and power since not even the 360 or PS3 have the best. Nintendo gets all the people who dont care too much about graphics and PC gets all the ones who do :lol:Silenthps

If you went out and bought a $600 computer today, it wouldn't produce visuals and gameplay as solid as the 360 or PS3.