[Sierra] Xbox 360 is holding back the PS3

U keep bringing up scores but were talking about the graphics here. And even though cows do talk alot of crap in these forums, many sites believe uncharted>>gears graphically. Anyone who says no is blind, heck many game sites even think MGS4 looks better then gears. Dont get me wrong gears 2 will come out and prolly take the crown back but as of now uncharted is still the best looking console game and has been debated in system wars many times already it is the best looking console game. Just because some ppl love the first gears to death man doesnt mean it is the best graphical game, some lemmings need to understand that there will always be another better looking game to take that crown. Gears set the bench mark in graphics and was dethroned, but some of u just cant let that go and want to defend it even now when we already have games that look better then it.

clintos59

IGN gave uncharted an 9.0 on graphics
IGN gave gears of war 10 on graphics

Gamespot gave uncharted no number on graphics but we'll assume it was between 8.0-9.0
Gamespot gave gears of war a 10 in graphics

Videogamer gave uncharted an 9 in graphics
Video gamer gave gears an 10 in graphics

Need i say more? I could post more sites but that seems to be the common trend, gears of war graphically>uncharted graphically.

PS3 has seven processors? Are you sure this guy is a dev. Because it sound like something that was made up on this baord.Marka1700

I don't think he is. Apparently he's the president of Terminal Reality, and presidents aren't usually developers. They're usually businessmen and PR spokesmen. Plus, as you've noticed, his comment about the number of processors on each platform doesn't make sense from a technical standoint.

[QUOTE="clintos59"]

U keep bringing up scores but were talking about the graphics here. And even though cows do talk alot of crap in these forums, many sites believe uncharted>>gears graphically. Anyone who says no is blind, heck many game sites even think MGS4 looks better then gears. Dont get me wrong gears 2 will come out and prolly take the crown back but as of now uncharted is still the best looking console game and has been debated in system wars many times already it is the best looking console game. Just because some ppl love the first gears to death man doesnt mean it is the best graphical game, some lemmings need to understand that there will always be another better looking game to take that crown. Gears set the bench mark in graphics and was dethroned, but some of u just cant let that go and want to defend it even now when we already have games that look better then it.

WilliamRLBaker

IGN gave uncharted an 9.0 on graphics
IGN gave gears of war 10 on graphics

Gamespot gave uncharted no number on graphics but we'll assume it was between 8.0-9.0
Gamespot gave gears of war a 10 in graphics

Videogamer gave uncharted an 9 in graphics
Video gamer gave gears an 10 in graphics

Need i say more? I could post more sites but that seems to be the common trend, gears of war graphically>uncharted graphically.

Man I didnt want to bring this crap up man but since u insist. Show me anything from gears that look better then these.

Only some1 in denial that owns one system will be blinded to say gears of war 1 looks better then uncharted. Yes I will admit gears was prolly a better game all around but graphically uncharted>>gears.

IGN gave uncharted an 9.0 on graphics
IGN gave gears of war 10 on graphics

Gamespot gave uncharted no number on graphics but we'll assume it was between 8.0-9.0
Gamespot gave gears of war a 10 in graphics

Videogamer gave uncharted an 9 in graphics
Video gamer gave gears an 10 in graphics

Need i say more? I could post more sites but that seems to be the common trend, gears of war graphically>uncharted graphically.WilliamRLBaker

Do you not realize scores are based on time frame and what games are available on the system. By your logic then Ocarina of Time equals gears of war graphics. Do you think gears of war would of still gotten a 10 in graphics if it was released today instead of 2006.

And as i've said before if it was an 360 only game it would look worlds better, the ps3 holds the 360 back in graphics.WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="clintos59"]

U keep bringing up scores but were talking about the graphics here. And even though cows do talk alot of crap in these forums, many sites believe uncharted>>gears graphically. Anyone who says no is blind, heck many game sites even think MGS4 looks better then gears. Dont get me wrong gears 2 will come out and prolly take the crown back but as of now uncharted is still the best looking console game and has been debated in system wars many times already it is the best looking console game. Just because some ppl love the first gears to death man doesnt mean it is the best graphical game, some lemmings need to understand that there will always be another better looking game to take that crown. Gears set the bench mark in graphics and was dethroned, but some of u just cant let that go and want to defend it even now when we already have games that look better then it.

WilliamRLBaker

IGN gave uncharted an 9.0 on graphics
IGN gave gears of war 10 on graphics

Gamespot gave uncharted no number on graphics but we'll assume it was between 8.0-9.0
Gamespot gave gears of war a 10 in graphics

Videogamer gave uncharted an 9 in graphics
Video gamer gave gears an 10 in graphics

Need i say more? I could post more sites but that seems to be the common trend, gears of war graphically>uncharted graphically.

VG247: Why choose to lead on the PS3?

Mark Randell: Very simple reason: Ghostbusters is the property of Sony Pictures.

Painballz

Pretty obvious why they would bad mouth the 360.. If they think it would have been better on the PS3 only, why make it multiplat? Oh that's right, you want more money. Hypocrites.

[Me] Sierra is holding back the pc/console gaming industry with this nonsense.

Ugh... This line:

The PlayStation 3 has seven processors and the 360 only has three, so seven versus three means you can do a lot more on the PS3.

Makes it sound like it came from someone on these boards rather than a developer.

mattbbpl

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]

Ugh... This line:

The PlayStation 3 has seven processors and the 360 only has three, so seven versus three means you can do a lot more on the PS3.

Makes it sound like it came from someone on these boards rather than a developer.

E M I N 3 M

Funny how that Dev doesn't mention the ram..

[QUOTE="navneet21"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="navneet21"]

[QUOTE="blackice1983"]yep if the 360 didnt exist ps3 games would have you install 10 -20 gbs of information to your hdd for faster load times and smoother frame rates . thanks alot 360Blackbond

what the hell are you talking about. If GTA IV was still PS3 exclusive we still would have everything GTA IV has and plus extra like cutomizeable cars, bikes, tanks, and able to play basketball in GTA IV like it had for GTA san andreas, but due to MS only dvd playable gta IV had none of that, to compensate for HD graphics for GTA IV they had to sacrifice all that.

LINK or forever hold your peace.

there is no linkits common sense, the rar file on torrent for gta IV for xbox 360 was about 7.30 and if you extract that file it comes out to about around 7.7 gb or more, and dvd9 which xbox 360 includes can hold upto 7.95 gb, so what do you think.

Then kindly close your mouth. If you can't back up your claims with any evidence then close your mouth. Do not state an opinion and act as if it is a fact. If you can't back it up then there is not point in you even bringing it up.

Ouch...

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="navneet21"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="navneet21"]

[QUOTE="blackice1983"]yep if the 360 didnt exist ps3 games would have you install 10 -20 gbs of information to your hdd for faster load times and smoother frame rates . thanks alot 360masiisam

what the hell are you talking about. If GTA IV was still PS3 exclusive we still would have everything GTA IV has and plus extra like cutomizeable cars, bikes, tanks, and able to play basketball in GTA IV like it had for GTA san andreas, but due to MS only dvd playable gta IV had none of that, to compensate for HD graphics for GTA IV they had to sacrifice all that.

LINK or forever hold your peace.

there is no linkits common sense, the rar file on torrent for gta IV for xbox 360 was about 7.30 and if you extract that file it comes out to about around 7.7 gb or more, and dvd9 which xbox 360 includes can hold upto 7.95 gb, so what do you think.

Then kindly close your mouth. If you can't back up your claims with any evidence then close your mouth. Do not state an opinion and act as if it is a fact. If you can't back it up then there is not point in you even bringing it up.

Ouch...

lol.. DVD9..... Not DVD7.7...

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="clintos59"]

U keep bringing up scores but were talking about the graphics here. And even though cows do talk alot of crap in these forums, many sites believe uncharted>>gears graphically. Anyone who says no is blind, heck many game sites even think MGS4 looks better then gears. Dont get me wrong gears 2 will come out and prolly take the crown back but as of now uncharted is still the best looking console game and has been debated in system wars many times already it is the best looking console game. Just because some ppl love the first gears to death man doesnt mean it is the best graphical game, some lemmings need to understand that there will always be another better looking game to take that crown. Gears set the bench mark in graphics and was dethroned, but some of u just cant let that go and want to defend it even now when we already have games that look better then it.

clintos59

IGN gave uncharted an 9.0 on graphics
IGN gave gears of war 10 on graphics

Gamespot gave uncharted no number on graphics but we'll assume it was between 8.0-9.0
Gamespot gave gears of war a 10 in graphics

Videogamer gave uncharted an 9 in graphics
Video gamer gave gears an 10 in graphics

Need i say more? I could post more sites but that seems to be the common trend, gears of war graphically>uncharted graphically.

Man I didnt want to bring this crap up man but since u insist. Show me anything from gears that look better then these.

Only some1 in denial that owns one system will be blinded to say gears of war 1 looks better then uncharted. Yes I will admit gears was prolly a better game all around but graphically uncharted>>gears.

And not to mention that the hair on Nathan Drake's head actually looks like hair unlike some games out here which I won't even mention.

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]

Ugh... This line:

The PlayStation 3 has seven processors and the 360 only has three, so seven versus three means you can do a lot more on the PS3.

Makes it sound like it came from someone on these boards rather than a developer.

Awinagainov

[QUOTE="Awinagainov"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"]

Ugh... This line:

The PlayStation 3 has seven processors and the 360 only has three, so seven versus three means you can do a lot more on the PS3.

Makes it sound like it came from someone on these boards rather than a developer.

micky4889

[QUOTE="clintos59"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="clintos59"]

U keep bringing up scores but were talking about the graphics here. And even though cows do talk alot of crap in these forums, many sites believe uncharted>>gears graphically. Anyone who says no is blind, heck many game sites even think MGS4 looks better then gears. Dont get me wrong gears 2 will come out and prolly take the crown back but as of now uncharted is still the best looking console game and has been debated in system wars many times already it is the best looking console game. Just because some ppl love the first gears to death man doesnt mean it is the best graphical game, some lemmings need to understand that there will always be another better looking game to take that crown. Gears set the bench mark in graphics and was dethroned, but some of u just cant let that go and want to defend it even now when we already have games that look better then it.

sakura_Ex

IGN gave uncharted an 9.0 on graphics
IGN gave gears of war 10 on graphics

Gamespot gave uncharted no number on graphics but we'll assume it was between 8.0-9.0
Gamespot gave gears of war a 10 in graphics

Videogamer gave uncharted an 9 in graphics
Video gamer gave gears an 10 in graphics

Need i say more? I could post more sites but that seems to be the common trend, gears of war graphically>uncharted graphically.

Man I didnt want to bring this crap up man but since u insist. Show me anything from gears that look better then these.

Only some1 in denial that owns one system will be blinded to say gears of war 1 looks better then uncharted. Yes I will admit gears was prolly a better game all around but graphically uncharted>>gears.

And not to mention that the hair on Nathan Drake's head actually looks like hair unlike some games out here which I won't even mention.

Well just say it... like gears of war lol

[QUOTE="Awinagainov"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"]

Ugh... This line:

The PlayStation 3 has seven processors and the 360 only has three, so seven versus three means you can do a lot more on the PS3.

Makes it sound like it came from someone on these boards rather than a developer.

micky4889

4GHZ??? I taught it was 5GHZ:roll:

[QUOTE="BreakingPoint8"]

Old, and still not interesting as the game looks like crap.

VG247: Why choose to lead on the PS3?

Mark Randell: Very simple reason: Ghostbusters is the property of Sony Pictures.

lol...

Dante2710

i think it was a pretty funny joke. something the interviewer would definitely not expect to hear, but still true all the same.

they reservered the entire cpu for sound :O wow.

The PS3 only has one cpu...

maybe they mean spu's... its like a million times different, i dont see one of the cells branches running 3Ds max for me. :roll:

[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"]

Ugh... This line:

The PlayStation 3 has seven processors and the 360 only has three, so seven versus three means you can do a lot more on the PS3.

Makes it sound like it came from someone on these boards rather than a developer.

LordoftheVacas

owned

[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"]

Ugh... This line:

The PlayStation 3 has seven processors and the 360 only has three, so seven versus three means you can do a lot more on the PS3.

Makes it sound like it came from someone on these boards rather than a developer.

Bebi_vegeta

4GHZ??? I taught it was 5GHZ:roll:

The PlayStation 3 has seven processors and the 360 only has three, so seven versus three means you can do a lot more on the PS3.

Oh dear :roll:

That does indeed sound like something someone here would say. The 360 is precisely 357 better than the PS3.

[QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"][QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"]

Ugh... This line:

The PlayStation 3 has seven processors and the 360 only has three, so seven versus three means you can do a lot more on the PS3.

Makes it sound like it came from someone on these boards rather than a developer.

micky4889

owned

[QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"][QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"]

Ugh... This line:

The PlayStation 3 has seven processors and the 360 only has three, so seven versus three means you can do a lot more on the PS3.

Makes it sound like it came from someone on these boards rather than a developer.

micky4889

owned

Seriously though, the cell is a blessing in the PS3, due to it lacking in the GPU dept. This is why MOST devs say, "They're pretty much equal". And posting those big numbers will do nothing but bring people in talking about "teh hidden p0wa" :lol:

Ghostbusters= GOTY for sure!

Lets all hype it everybody!

Ugh... This line:

The PlayStation 3 has seven processors and the 360 only has three, so seven versus three means you can do a lot more on the PS3.

Makes it sound like it came from someone on these boards rather than a developer.

mattbbpl

hah you beat me too it

this guy sounds like an idiot...

they are both pretty equal give or take anyway.

this game doesn even look that good lol

[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"][QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"]

Ugh... This line:

The PlayStation 3 has seven processors and the 360 only has three, so seven versus three means you can do a lot more on the PS3.

Makes it sound like it came from someone on these boards rather than a developer.

LordoftheVacas

http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/grand-theft-auto-iv/news/gta-iv-360-vs-ps3/a-2008042812150303074/g-2006051014323586065

"We've played both console versions of GTA IV, and took the following video from the opening scene. We captured the raw video in uncompressed 720p, with no post-processing to either stream

or

http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=388602

Theres been a nasty rumor going around that PS3 version of GTA IV runs at 640p all started by posters on forum Beyond3D which many news outlets ran as "real" confirmation, more specifically the poster named Quaz.
Quaz who admits to only owning the Xbox 360 version of the game, speculates the PS3 version of GTA IV runs at 640p all from studying raw screenshot output sent to him from Dot50cal (another Beyond3D poster).

Well lay the rumors to rest not only considering Rockstar themselves confirmed both Xbox and PS3 versions to be running in native 720p

[QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"][QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"][QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"]

Ugh... This line:

The PlayStation 3 has seven processors and the 360 only has three, so seven versus three means you can do a lot more on the PS3.

Makes it sound like it came from someone on these boards rather than a developer.

micky4889

http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/grand-theft-auto-iv/news/gta-iv-360-vs-ps3/a-2008042812150303074/g-2006051014323586065

"We've played both console versions of GTA IV, and took the following video from the opening scene. We captured the raw video in uncompressed 720p, with no post-processing to either stream

or

http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=388602

Theres been a nasty rumor going around that PS3 version of GTA IV runs at 640p all started by posters on forum Beyond3D which many news outlets ran as "real" confirmation, more specifically the poster named Quaz.
Quaz who admits to only owning the Xbox 360 version of the game, speculates the PS3 version of GTA IV runs at 640p all from studying raw screenshot output sent to him from Dot50cal (another Beyond3D poster).

Well lay the rumors to rest not only considering Rockstar themselves confirmed both Xbox and PS3 versions to be running in native 720p

[QUOTE="navneet21"]

[QUOTE="blackice1983"]yep if the 360 didnt exist ps3 games would have you install 10 -20 gbs of information to your hdd for faster load times and smoother frame rates . thanks alot 360WilliamRLBaker

what the hell are you talking about. If GTA IV was still PS3 exclusive we still would have everything GTA IV has and plus extra like cutomizeable cars, bikes, tanks, and able to play basketball in GTA IV like it had for GTA san andreas, but due to MS only dvd playable gta IV had none of that, to compensate for HD graphics for GTA IV they had to sacrifice all that.

hmmm odd yet gta4 360 was finished months in advance they had to delay release to get the ps3 version up to snuff cause it took so long. ROCKSTAR has admitted the weak link was the ps3, and hd graphics? lol gta 4 doesn't even look as good as most of the worst looking games this generation, yet it got a 10 in graphics hmmm... *gta4 is overated*

Ugh... This line:

The PlayStation 3 has seven processors and the 360 only has three, so seven versus three means you can do a lot more on the PS3.

Makes it sound like it came from someone on these boards rather than a developer.

mattbbpl

You dont think that SCEA and Sony Pictures run as seperate entities do you?

Vasichko

It always makes you wonder why this game and the James Bond games are not only on the PS3. When Sony owns the rights.

[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"][QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"][QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"]

LordoftheVacas

http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/grand-theft-auto-iv/news/gta-iv-360-vs-ps3/a-2008042812150303074/g-2006051014323586065

"We've played both console versions of GTA IV, and took the following video from the opening scene. We captured the raw video in uncompressed 720p, with no post-processing to either stream

or

http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=388602

Theres been a nasty rumor going around that PS3 version of GTA IV runs at 640p all started by posters on forum Beyond3D which many news outlets ran as "real" confirmation, more specifically the poster named Quaz.
Quaz who admits to only owning the Xbox 360 version of the game, speculates the PS3 version of GTA IV runs at 640p all from studying raw screenshot output sent to him from Dot50cal (another Beyond3D poster).

Well lay the rumors to rest not only considering Rockstar themselves confirmed both Xbox and PS3 versions to be running in native 720p

[QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"][QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"][QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"][QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"]

micky4889

http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/grand-theft-auto-iv/news/gta-iv-360-vs-ps3/a-2008042812150303074/g-2006051014323586065

"We've played both console versions of GTA IV, and took the following video from the opening scene. We captured the raw video in uncompressed 720p, with no post-processing to either stream

or

http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=388602

Theres been a nasty rumor going around that PS3 version of GTA IV runs at 640p all started by posters on forum Beyond3D which many news outlets ran as "real" confirmation, more specifically the poster named Quaz.
Quaz who admits to only owning the Xbox 360 version of the game, speculates the PS3 version of GTA IV runs at 640p all from studying raw screenshot output sent to him from Dot50cal (another Beyond3D poster).

Well lay the rumors to rest not only considering Rockstar themselves confirmed both Xbox and PS3 versions to be running in native 720p

[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"][QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"][QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"][QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="Awinagainov"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"]

LordoftheVacas

Well lay the rumors to rest not only considering Rockstar themselves confirmed both Xbox and PS3 versions to be running in native 720p

key words there being "post processing" so no upscaling

nope they wrote ". We captured the raw video in uncompressed 720p, with no post-processing to either stream"

key words there being "post processing" so no upscaling

micky4889

[QUOTE="micky4889"]

nope they wrote ". We captured the raw video in uncompressed 720p, with no post-processing to either stream"

key words there being "post processing" so no upscaling

HuusAsking

This thread is turning into an exact replica of one over at the gametrailers forum with people quoting that same "Raw format" quote trying to prove it is infact 720p

It's not 'raw' it has already been scaled. The is no way to capture unscaled output from the RSX afaik.

This thread is turning into an exact replica of one over at the gametrailers forum with people quoting that same "Raw format" quote trying to prove it is infact 720p

It's not 'raw' it has already been scaled. The is no way to capture unscaled output from the RSX afaik.

speedsix

a 360 gaming site say this "We captured the raw video in uncompressed 720p, with no post-processing to either stream"

but no they must be trying to defend the ps3 thanks for pointing that out seedsix

[QUOTE="speedsix"]

This thread is turning into an exact replica of one over at the gametrailers forum with people quoting that same "Raw format" quote trying to prove it is infact 720p

It's not 'raw' it has already been scaled. The is no way to capture unscaled output from the RSX afaik.

micky4889

a 360 gaming site say this "We captured the raw video in uncompressed 720p, with no post-processing to either stream"

but no they must be trying to defend the ps3 thanks for pointing that out seedsix

I've no doubt they captured the raw video in uncompressed 720p, with no post-processing. It still doesn't explicitly state the video hadn't already been scaled.

Even if they were implying that, they'd be wrong. GTA IV on the PS3 is sub 720p, get over it. Big name gaming sites like those are bloody clueless when it comes to any of the technical details anyway.

lol. I didn't wanna do this man! but you made me! you made me bring out the pictures, instead of listening to people that have been in the industry instead of people that have been playing games longer then us and are PAID to judge stuff i've pulled out the pictures and said let us users compare the screen shots! you just made me do it!

I'm sorry but pull out as many screen shots as you want, pull out video.
This still does not change the fact the common trend in ratings is that gears of war is better graphically then uncharted.
But I'll pull out some more numbers (numbers are much more trustworthy then the opinions of biased users, and screen shots, screen shots which can be altered.)

Gamerankings average score
http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928234.asp?q=gears
93.7%

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/932984.asp?q=uncharted
89.2%

Vgchartz sales numbers
Uncharted-1.55 million

Gears of war-5.16 Million


And scores? i've all ready shown that the common trend among all sites is that gears of war graphically is better then uncharted graphically, the only places that commonly gave a higher score in graphics we're playstation only sites and thus we dont have a gears of war review from them so we have no comparison basis.

Face it critically, sales wise gears of war is better then uncharted, Is uncharted a bad game? YES! it is! i've played it its a crappy looking game in my opinion with brain dead AI, and stupid gameplay design, but it was such good crap it got a higher score then other ps3 games...which is kind of telling of the amount of bad games on the ps3.