Since lighting is the new discriminator, what is the light-king?

[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

[QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]Killzone 3Teufelhuhn

Yea...prerendered lighting that isnt even accurate...cool stuff man.

[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

[QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]Killzone 3Teufelhuhn

Yea...prerendered lighting that isnt even accurate...cool stuff man.

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

Yea...prerendered lighting that isnt even accurate...cool stuff man.

Ravenchrome

[QUOTE="Ravenchrome"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

Their prebaked GI is a million times more accurate than Crysis 2's solution. They also have plenty of dynamic lighting as well.

ferret-gamer

Crysis 2.

You can hate all you want, there is no game on the market with as robust of a lighting system as that game.

[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

why is the bottom Stalker gif the only one i ever see posted?

stop posting this game. it's an embarassment. low resolution textures everywhere...and that's not to mention the wooden animations (it's even worse than Fallout 3 and New Vegas).

edit: HD, full settings video of Stalker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u2_yVg7nxE

TheKing012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syFA8aoqYoA#t=2m30s ;)

why are you including mods? that's essentially like me photoshopping Killzone 2 to appear as if it has the best HDR lighting available.

i'd prefer you go from the original source.

That's not even at all what it's like... not even close. You can't play a photoshopped Killzone 2 screenshot.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="Ravenchrome"] COW detected. Crysis 2 lighting is dynamic and real-time.

Ravenchrome

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syFA8aoqYoA#t=2m30s ;)

scoots9

why are you including mods? that's essentially like me photoshopping Killzone 2 to appear as if it has the best HDR lighting available.

i'd prefer you go from the original source.

That's not even at all what it's like... not even close. You can't play a photoshopped Killzone 2 screenshot.

[QUOTE="Ravenchrome"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] The mod is a cow? What do you think happens when you have a game that decided to go with fully dynamic lighting compared to one that uses pre baked for the enviroments? Pre baked is far more accurate since the lighting doesn't need to be calculated in real time. Sure C2 has dynamic GI, but compared to something in, say, Mirrors Edge where the devs don't have to worry about real time constraints, the lighting is far lower quality and accuracy in the game with Dynamic lighting.

ferret-gamer

Except in the fact that in a real world lighting changes and pre baked does not react and that another light changes other lighting.

[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

why is the bottom Stalker gif the only one i ever see posted?

stop posting this game. it's an embarassment. low resolution textures everywhere...and that's not to mention the wooden animations (it's even worse than Fallout 3 and New Vegas).

edit: HD, full settings video of Stalker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u2_yVg7nxE

TheKing012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syFA8aoqYoA#t=2m30s ;)

why are you including mods? that's essentially like me photoshopping Killzone 2 to appear as if it has the best HDR lighting available.

i'd prefer you go from the original source.

A photoshoped KZ2 screenshot isnt really playable though is it?...

Whats wrong, you mad because your favorite game is loosing the poll?

Either modded-to-hell-and-back Crysis + Warhead or Metro 2033. Metro can be so damn beautiful at times.

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]

The first 2 GIFs i posted is how the lighting looks in vanilla state.

Here look, official trailer by GSC Gameworld. No mods involved.

DreamCryotank

i meant from Call of Pripyat, that's what you posted.

:P

Here. Fresh install, no mods.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4WiNf5m3EE

i appreciate you for actually taking the time out to record some gameplay footage. most people would just suffice in saying they aren't going to waste their time, but you actually went the extra mile.

still, i don't mean to downplay everything you probably went through to get it recorded, but it still largely doesn't look that great.

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syFA8aoqYoA#t=2m30s ;)

pelvist

why are you including mods? that's essentially like me photoshopping Killzone 2 to appear as if it has the best HDR lighting available.

i'd prefer you go from the original source.

A photoshoped KZ2 screenshot isnt really playable though is it?...

Whats wrong, you mad because your favorite game is loosing the poll?

:lol:

obviously my favorite game, Half-Life 2, is losing in the poll, since it was released in 2004.

i don't know what you're referring to with Killzone 2, though.

Looks like STALKER is winning. He mad :lol: 8)millerlight89

hell, even Alan Wake has better lighting than Stalker.

:P

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Looks like STALKER is winning. He mad :lol: 8)millerlight89

hell, even Alan Wake has better lighting than Stalker.

:P

mad at what?

i didn't want any particular game to win in the poll. the Killzone 2 example was just that - an example. i could have said Lair for all we know. :lol:.

i'm just stating that Stalker is an ugly, ugly game (which it is). and it looks worse than Fallout 3 and New Vegas (which it does).

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Maybe you should actually play the game. Like I said, he mad :lol:millerlight89

mad at what?

i didn't want any particular game to win in the poll. the Killzone 2 example was just that - an example. i could have said Lair for all we know. :lol:.

i'm just stating that Stalker is an ugly, ugly game. and it looks worse than Fallout 3 and New Vegas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4WiNf5m3EE

that's the video he took the time out to record, and it looks completely terrible.

:lol:.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Looks like STALKER is winning. He mad :lol: 8)TheKing012

hell, even Alan Wake has better lighting than Stalker.

:P

What you did there, I SEE IT.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="TheKing012"]

mad at what?

i didn't want any particular game to win in the poll. the Killzone 2 example was just that - an example. i could have said Lair for all we know. :lol:.

i'm just stating that Stalker is an ugly, ugly game. and it looks worse than Fallout 3 and New Vegas.

TheKing012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4WiNf5m3EE

that's the video he took the time out to record, and it looks completely terrible.

:lol:.

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Looks like STALKER is winning. He mad :lol: 8)ChubbyGuy40

hell, even Alan Wake has better lighting than Stalker.

:P

What you did there, I SEE IT.

:P

see, he sees it!

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Like I said, maybe you should actually play it, oh it's not on consoles is it? My mistake. STALKER has amazing lighting, which this thread is about. He mad :lol:soulitane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4WiNf5m3EE

that's the video he took the time out to record, and it looks completely terrible.

:lol:.

no, just no.

:P

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="TheKing012"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4WiNf5m3EE

that's the video he took the time out to record, and it looks completely terrible.

:lol:.

TheKing012

no, just no.

:P

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] It looks better than KZ2 and alan wake to me.Arach666

no, just no.

:P

uh, no it doesn't?

:|

that's like saying Fallout 3 and New Vegas (did i mention they look better than Stalker?), look better than KZ2 and Alan Wake.

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="TheKing012"]

no, just no.

:P

TheKing012

uh, no it doesn't?

:|

that's like saying Fallout 3 and New Vegas (did i mention they look better than Stalker?), look better than KZ2 and Alan Wake.

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="TheKing012"]

no, just no.

:P

TheKing012

uh, no it doesn't?

:|

that's like saying Fallout 3 and New Vegas (did i mention they look better than Stalker?), look better than KZ2 and Alan Wake.

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="TheKing012"]

no, just no.

:P

TheKing012

uh, no it doesn't?

:|

that's like saying Fallout 3 and New Vegas (did i mention they look better than Stalker?), look better than KZ2 and Alan Wake.

come on now. try a little harder at least...

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="TheKing012"]

no, just no.

:P

TheKing012

uh, no it doesn't?

:|

that's like saying Fallout 3 and New Vegas (did i mention they look better than Stalker?), look better than KZ2 and Alan Wake.

Yous be doin what the picture says. I give you a B-

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="TheKing012"]

no, just no.

:P

TheKing012

uh, no it doesn't?

:|

that's like saying Fallout 3 and New Vegas (did i mention they look better than Stalker?), look better than KZ2 and Alan Wake.

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] Sure it does.soulitane

uh, no it doesn't?

:|

that's like saying Fallout 3 and New Vegas (did i mention they look better than Stalker?), look better than KZ2 and Alan Wake.

yeah, Fallout 3 doesn't have anything going for it in the lighting department that's notable...

but it looks overall, a great deal better than Stalker: Call of Pripyat. :|

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] Sure it does.Deadbeatcobra

uh, no it doesn't?

:|

that's like saying Fallout 3 and New Vegas (did i mention they look better than Stalker?), look better than KZ2 and Alan Wake.

oh, see. this might be the misconception. it began with me asking why he was including Stalker, when it's not even a particularly good looking game overall (not referring to lighting).

sorry for the confusion. :P

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="TheKing012"]

uh, no it doesn't?

:|

that's like saying Fallout 3 and New Vegas (did i mention they look better than Stalker?), look better than KZ2 and Alan Wake.

TheKing012

yeah, Fallout 3 doesn't have anything going for it in the lighting department that's notable...

but it looks better than Stalker: Call of Pripyat. :|

y'know, it's okay if you don't like how stalker looks. I actually find it quite ugly myself, but to say that on a technical level fallout 3 is superior, is a pretty ridiculous claim.

EDIT: fallout 3 looks like **** both technically and artistically.

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="TheKing012"]

uh, no it doesn't?

:|

that's like saying Fallout 3 and New Vegas (did i mention they look better than Stalker?), look better than KZ2 and Alan Wake.

TheKing012

yeah, Fallout 3 doesn't have anything going for it in the lighting department that's notable...

but it looks overall, a great deal better than Stalker: Call of Pripyat. :|

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="TheKing012"]

uh, no it doesn't?

:|

that's like saying Fallout 3 and New Vegas (did i mention they look better than Stalker?), look better than KZ2 and Alan Wake.

TheKing012

yeah, Fallout 3 doesn't have anything going for it in the lighting department that's notable...

but it looks overall, a great deal better than Stalker: Call of Pripyat. :|

Because that´s what´s happening with you now.

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] Because you said it makes it true? FO3 has pretty bad lighting and that's what we're talking about :wink:theuncharted34

yeah, Fallout 3 doesn't have anything going for it in the lighting department that's notable...

but it looks better than Stalker: Call of Pripyat. :|

y'know, it's okay if you don't like how stalker looks. I actually find it quite ugly myself, but to say that on a technical level fallout 3 is superior, is a pretty ridiculous claim.

EDIT: fallout 3 looks like **** both technically and artistically.

Stalker: Call of Pripyat (PC)

Fallout 3 (PC)

are we even discussing Stalker: COP here?

[QUOTE="Deadbeatcobra"]

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

uh, no it doesn't?

:|

that's like saying Fallout 3 and New Vegas (did i mention they look better than Stalker?), look better than KZ2 and Alan Wake.

TheKing012

oh, see. this might be the misconception. it began with me asking why he was including Stalker, when it's not even a particularly good looking game overall (not referring to lighting).

sorry for the confusion. :P

but yeah stalker can be very inconsistent, still not as bad as your making it to be.

dude. fallout 3 doesn't even have SHADOWS. come on now.

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] Because you said it makes it true? FO3 has pretty bad lighting and that's what we're talking about :wink:theuncharted34

yeah, Fallout 3 doesn't have anything going for it in the lighting department that's notable...

but it looks better than Stalker: Call of Pripyat. :|

y'know, it's okay if you don't like how stalker looks. I actually find it quite ugly myself, but to say that on a technical level fallout 3 is superior, is a pretty ridiculous claim.

EDIT: fallout 3 looks like **** both technically and artistically.

artistically? i loved the look&feel of fallout 3 (and nv)

dude. fallout 3 doesn't even have SHADOWS. come on now.

theuncharted34

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

[QUOTE="Deadbeatcobra"] talking about lighting right? just to make sure here. cuz stalker holds that crown.

Deadbeatcobra

oh, see. this might be the misconception. it began with me asking why he was including Stalker, when it's not even a particularly good looking game overall (not referring to lighting).

sorry for the confusion. :P

but yeah stalker can be very inconsistant, still not as bad as your making it to be.

perhaps, but it's also not what everyone else is making it out to be.

i mean seriously, the game BARELY stands up to Fallout 3. it's like somewhere down the line everyone began to go under the false assumption that Stalker is actually an exceptional looking game (which it's not), even though in reality, it's the DEFINITION of an average looking game.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

dude. fallout 3 doesn't even have SHADOWS. come on now.

soulitane

yeah. but the most ridiculous one's ya just can't help but laugh sometimes :P

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

dude. fallout 3 doesn't even have SHADOWS. come on now.

theuncharted34

yeah. but the most ridiculous one's ya just can't help but laugh sometimes :P

so you're ignoring the screenshots?

i'm beginning to wonder if you've even played Stalker: COP :|.

[QUOTE="Deadbeatcobra"]

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

oh, see. this might be the misconception. it began with me asking why he was including Stalker, when it's not even a particularly good looking game overall (not referring to lighting).

sorry for the confusion. :P

TheKing012

but yeah stalker can be very inconsistant, still not as bad as your making it to be.

perhaps, but it's also not what everyone else is making it out to be.

i mean seriously, the game BARELY stands up to Fallout 3. it's like somewhere down the line everyone began to go under the false assumption that Stalker is actually an exceptional looking game (which it's not), even though in reality, it's the DEFINITION of an average looking game.

The STALKER games

Metro 2033

Alan Wake

Killzone 3

Velvet Assassin (I know that the overall visuals are "meh" but the lighting is fantastic)

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

[QUOTE="Deadbeatcobra"] yeah i was kinda confused there abit. gotta explain more man, you how system wars is they'll burn you at the stake :P,

but yeah stalker can be very inconsistant, still not as bad as your making it to be.

Deadbeatcobra

perhaps, but it's also not what everyone else is making it out to be.

i mean seriously, the game BARELY stands up to Fallout 3. it's like somewhere down the line everyone began to go under the false assumption that Stalker is actually an exceptional looking game (which it's not), even though in reality, it's the DEFINITION of an average looking game.

see, i think that's where the confusion started.

i never stated that Stalker doesn't have good lighting. my point from the beginning was to question why people use that game as an example when EVERYTHING but the lighting is sub-par. the textures, the animations, the character models, the trees, the guns..it's ALL completely and utterly hideous.

[QUOTE="Deadbeatcobra"]

[QUOTE="TheKing012"]

perhaps, but it's also not what everyone else is making it out to be.

i mean seriously, the game BARELY stands up to Fallout 3. it's like somewhere down the line everyone began to go under the false assumption that Stalker is actually an exceptional looking game (which it's not), even though in reality, it's the DEFINITION of an average looking game.

TheKing012

see, i think that's where the confusion started.

i never stated that Stalker doesn't have good lighting. my point from the beginning was to question why people use that game as an example when EVERYTHING but the lighting is sub-par. the textures, the animations, the character models, the trees, the guns..it's ALL completely and utterly hideous.

Its called artstyle and opinion. Obviously you don't like it.

I for one think it looks great, especially with the Complete mod.

This thread is strictly about lighting; not shadows, texture, poly-count, models,etc.