Since PS3 gamers are so proud of KZ3, how about KZ3 vs Crysis 2 PC?

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#1 Ravenchrome
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If PS3 fanboys claim KZ3 is way better looking than Crysis 2 console, then it is better looking than Crysis 2 PC max too, since PC version is nearly identical to console version.

AA and resolution do make the game less jagged, but in terms of pure visual, both versions are almost the same. If Killzone 3 is superior to console Crysis 2, it is therefore more advanced than Crysis 2 PC as well.

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Your argument is flawed because Crysis 2 Console =/= Crysis 2 PC max.
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#3 RandomWinner
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Well obviously either KZ3 doesn't look as good as Crysis 2 on consoles, or Crysis 2 on PC looks better than it does on consoles by a margin that fits KZ3 in the middle. I think the latter is the general concensus.

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#4 mattuk69
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Crysis 2 is a disgrace of a PC game. How about comparing it to a non dumbed down game like the first Crysis or warhead?

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#5 lowkey254
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Crysis 2 PC max =/= Crysis 2 console

KZ3 > Crysis 2 console

Crysis 2 PC max > KZ3

I > U

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#6 kraken2109
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Crysis 2 looks far better than any console game, I say this as a PS3 owner and a player of Crysis 2.

1080p screenshot i took myself:

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#7 Ravenchrome
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Crysis 2 PC max =/= Crysis 2 console

KZ3 > Crysis 2 console

Crysis 2 PC max > KZ3

I > U

lowkey254

Resolution and AA aside, PC is almost identical to console. PC just performs better with less jaggies.

Lighting, models, particle effects, shadow, texture, etc are almost identical.

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#8 Heil68
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not the same so it's irrelevant.
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#9 RandomWinner
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[QUOTE="lowkey254"]

Crysis 2 PC max =/= Crysis 2 console

KZ3 > Crysis 2 console

Crysis 2 PC max > KZ3

I > U

Ravenchrome

Resolution and AA aside, PC is almost identical to console. PC just performs better with less jaggies.

Lighting, models, particle effects, shadow, texture, etc are almost identical.

That's most multiplats though too. What about pop-in and framerate, which is atrocious on consoles.

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#10 Swavo69420
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Developers said they had to cut back on the console version of Crysis 2 to fit it on consoles, You see the problems the game has had because they had to scale it down... The draw backs of a multiplatform games are bugs, jaggys, frame rate drops, etc... KZ3 was designed strictly for PS3 though it may be alittle rough around the edges it's far less problematic then a multiplatform game...
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#11 Pelon208
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Mmmm

Crysis 2 PC:

KZ3:

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#12 lowkey254
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[QUOTE="Ravenchrome"]

[QUOTE="lowkey254"]

Crysis 2 PC max =/= Crysis 2 console

KZ3 > Crysis 2 console

Crysis 2 PC max > KZ3

I > U

RandomWinner

Resolution and AA aside, PC is almost identical to console. PC just performs better with less jaggies.

Lighting, models, particle effects, shadow, texture, etc are almost identical.

That's most multiplats though too. What about pop-in and framerate, which is atrocious on consoles.

exactly my point. the pop in on crysis2 console is terrible.

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#13 DreamCryotank
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Crysis 2 kills Killzone 3 graphically.

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#14 kuraimen
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Are you talking about aesthetics or about technical features? they are 2 different things. If it's about the first then it is entirely subjective what you prefer, if it is about the latter then it is obvious the PC beats the PS3.
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#15 Pelon208
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And I don't know you, but I hate HATE the names in Crysis 2, Alcatraz, Goul and so on...

Well KZ3 has bad names too, Sev, Rico...

LOL

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And I don't know you, but I hate HATE the names in Crysis 2, Alcatraz, Goul and so on...

Well KZ3 has bad names too, Sev, Rico...

LOL

Pelon208

Alchatraz is an awesome name if you think of it as...

[spoiler] Alchatraz is the famous prison, and his body is effectively a prison for Prophets mind. :P [/spoiler]

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#17 xYamatox
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Crysis 2 looks far better than any console game, I say this as a PS3 owner and a player of Crysis 2.

1080p screenshot i took myself:

kraken2109

I'm being 100% legit when I say those graphics look like they are from inFamous 1...

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#18 campzor
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[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

Crysis 2 looks far better than any console game, I say this as a PS3 owner and a player of Crysis 2.

1080p screenshot i took myself:

xYamatox

I'm being 100% legit when I say those graphics look like they are from inFamous 1...

the left half definitely
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#20 campzor
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it goes like this, sony's paid forum trolls will never admit to crysis 2 looking better on the 360 than killzone 3 or uncharted and there die hard fanboys wont either, and that is all there is to say about it, BUT for the rest of us that arent biased we all know that the 360 version of crysis 2 is the best looking console game to dategt5flopped
if it were true u would use ur real account ;)
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#21 ramonnl
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it goes like this, sony's paid forum trolls will never admit to crysis 2 looking better on the 360 than killzone 3 or uncharted and there die hard fanboys wont either, and that is all there is to say about it, BUT for the rest of us that arent biased we all know that the 360 version of crysis 2 is the best looking console game to dategt5flopped
Sorry to say but the gaming experts are saying that killzone 3 still beats crysis 2 on consoles.
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#22 15strong
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Crysis 2 kills Killzone 3 graphically.

DreamCryotank

Killzone looks pretty damn good to me!

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#23 sirk1264
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Crysis 2 on PC looks much better than Crysis 2 on ps3 and yes I have them both. In addition to the higher resolution and better overall graphics, I get a much better framerate on the PC version. KZ3 is a great looking game and one of the best this generation. I would say KZ3 looks better on the ps3 than Crysis 2 but it doesn't compare to Crysis 2 on the PC.

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#24 Ravenchrome
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[QUOTE="gt5flopped"]it goes like this, sony's paid forum trolls will never admit to crysis 2 looking better on the 360 than killzone 3 or uncharted and there die hard fanboys wont either, and that is all there is to say about it, BUT for the rest of us that arent biased we all know that the 360 version of crysis 2 is the best looking console game to dateramonnl
Sorry to say but the gaming experts are saying that killzone 3 still beats crysis 2 on consoles.

PC version too?

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#25 gt5flopped
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[QUOTE="gt5flopped"]it goes like this, sony's paid forum trolls will never admit to crysis 2 looking better on the 360 than killzone 3 or uncharted and there die hard fanboys wont either, and that is all there is to say about it, BUT for the rest of us that arent biased we all know that the 360 version of crysis 2 is the best looking console game to datecampzor
if it were true u would use ur real account ;)

dude this is my real account you said that same crap to me before, and also i have seen you alot on here with you fakeness acting like you have a 360 and your bs story behind it, you are one of the diehards i am speaking of- you and locust paccard or whatever are real annoying to say the very least, no offense bro- and yes i know you might be one of the paid sony trolls
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#26 gt5flopped
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[QUOTE="gt5flopped"]it goes like this, sony's paid forum trolls will never admit to crysis 2 looking better on the 360 than killzone 3 or uncharted and there die hard fanboys wont either, and that is all there is to say about it, BUT for the rest of us that arent biased we all know that the 360 version of crysis 2 is the best looking console game to dateramonnl
Sorry to say but the gaming experts are saying that killzone 3 still beats crysis 2 on consoles.

what kind of bs is this, i have seen MANY more pro reviewers say crysis 2 on 360 is the best looking console game, dont lie man you aint fooling me
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#27 DreamCryotank
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Crysis 2 kills Killzone 3 graphically.

15strong

Killzone looks pretty damn good to me!

It looks fantastic until you look closer. The first pic is practically a corridor with so much bloom (although it looks pretty as hell), second pic is filled with low res textures, just look at the plant life (it's nicely designed though), and the third pic looks like they're made out of rubber, and look at the floor texture and foilage. Crysis 2s much higher resolution

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#28 Pelon208
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And guess what, Crysis 3 will be multiplatform too.

Know why? Cuz Crytek just make a ton of money of Crysis 2. It's selling like hot cakes.

Yes Crysis 2 was a kick in the noble parts for PC gamers but Crytek don't give a crap about that. They care about the money, and the Multiplatform business its a multimillion business

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#29 Filthybastrd
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[QUOTE="lowkey254"]

Crysis 2 PC max =/= Crysis 2 console

KZ3 > Crysis 2 console

Crysis 2 PC max > KZ3

I > U

Ravenchrome

Resolution and AA aside, PC is almost identical to console. PC just performs better with less jaggies.

Lighting, models, particle effects, shadow, texture, etc are almost identical.

Well twice the resolution is quite the difference not to mention that the PC can actually run this nerfed sequel.

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#30 Pray_to_me
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It's already been Proven that Killzone 3 looks better then Crysis2 on consoles that's all we need. So yeah you could play World of Warcraft in 1080p on PC 2 the game still wouldn't be all that impressive.

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#31 Kinthalis
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The lighting and shadowing on the 360 vs PC are NOT the same.

The PC uses a more accurate solution for both and a shadowing solution that takes up more RAM. The lighting looks better on PC. Period.

More importantly are the differences in performance though. There is no pop in on the PC while the consoles are riddled with it, and the frame rate on consoles is inconsistent and often very low.

Not the case on PC.

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#32 2Chalupas
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Crysis 2 looks far better than any console game, I say this as a PS3 owner and a player of Crysis 2.

1080p screenshot i took myself:

kraken2109

I agree that Crysis 2 looks good, but "far better than any console game"? No. I'm not even sold that it's the best, actually after playing it a 2nd time I'm quite sure Killzone 3 is substantially better looking (even though on first impressions I went with Crysis 2). LIike the poster above said in reference to the PC version, the console versions of crysis have way more pop-ins and some jangly shadows depending on the viewpoint you are seeing them from. There are plenty of games that don't have those issues on console, and KZ3 looks pretty much as good but with less "drawbacks". I've said it before, *IF* Crysis had managed 30FPS and ZERO draw in issues on console, it would have been best looking game on consoles. But it becomes a tough debate when the game runs at 22-28 Frames per second, has pop-ins, and has a decent amoung of jaggies.

That picture is actually pretty crap looking too BTW. That environment you just took a screenshot is basically what I would call the ugliest environment in the game, the sections with trees and parks are all mostly the ugliest locales in the game (except the last section where Central park rises out of the ground, that actually looked fairly impressive in motion). Crysis 2 looks at it's best in the nighttime environments or when it's nothing but city streets with no greenspace.

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#33 PAL360
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Crysis >>> PC Crysis 2 >> console Crysis 2 > Killzone 3

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#35 HaloinventedFPS
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Crysis 2 looks garbage

the textures are half the size of Crysis 1's textures, they are really ugly and are hidden by Bloom

even worse is that Crytek are not allowing us to mod Crysis 2, so no good texture packs or graphics mods

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#36 tommyas
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If PS3 fanboys claim KZ3 is way better looking than Crysis 2 console, then it is better looking than Crysis 2 PC max too, since PC version is nearly identical to console version.

AA and resolution do make the game less jagged, but in terms of pure visual, both versions are almost the same. If Killzone 3 is superior to console Crysis 2, it is therefore more advanced than Crysis 2 PC as well.

Ravenchrome
No. Many PC games maxed out look better than anything on consoles. PCs have much more raw power to work with. You cannot beat 4GB+ ddr3 with 512 RAM on consoles. Same goes for GPU. Theres just this much you can do with limited power.
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#37 Malta_1980
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i think both are really close, still give KZ3 the edge visually but not by a huge margin like some sony fanboys claim..

also why i'm not surprised that the 'well known' Xbox fan(boy)s in here claim crysis2 is the best looking game on consoles... i wonder why :p

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#38 deactivated-635525971e920
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Should probably mention that the console versions of Crysis 2 run on the 'High' setting preset, i.e. the lowest preset available on the PC version, while the latter goes all the way up to the Very High and Extreme settings (and, with a custom config file, even higher). As if they weren't enough on their own, higher levels of AA/AF and higher resolutions are not the only differences between the two versions.

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#39 tutt3r
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[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]

Crysis 2 kills Killzone 3 graphically.

15strong

Killzone looks pretty damn good to me!

if only kz3 actually looked that good in game though...

but I call troll on TC's part. how can he really believe console crysis 2 = pc crysis 2. TBH i still think uncharted 2 is the ps3 graphics king instead of kz3 or crysis 2

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#41 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]Crysis 2 on console has no GI at all. It's a fake obtained with light globes (few light globes) put around the environment on purpose. The rest of the illumination is achieved by a unique directional light that act as a sun light. On PC instead you have real time GI, even if it's not real GI, but kind of. *Runs*.

crysis 2 uses a mix of glow, hdr lighting with lens flares, and is entirely dynamic. and there are many many light sources. it's the same on pc except it's at slightly higher quality, but not much difference.
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#42 theuncharted34
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this is where crysis 2 stands as far as consoles go : crysis 2 is a fantastic looking game both graphically and overall visually. the *core graphics* are even better than uncharted 2 and god of war 3. lighting is spectacular and is the best I've seen in ANY game, it has a nice sense of scale, and textures are pretty good for a console game - up there with killzone 3 but not quite at gow 3's or uncharted 2's level. and considering the scale with all of these things going on as well as added effects like bokeh, make for a fantastic visual experience. however, the game does lack polish. it has some graphical glitches, like things phazing in and out, objects floating in mid air, inconsistent a.i. , enimies getting stuck on objects ect. as well as some framerate dips, and frequent object pop up. (but the game usually does run pretty smoothly, about a 27 - 28 fps avg.) it also runs at a sub Hd resolution on both consoles, (lower on the ps3 but the ps3 version has higher AF to compensate) and it also uses an AA method which works well on jaggies, but causes ghosting on objects. even with all its issues, the game is just so dam impressive that it's easily up there with both killzone games all things considered, but it does fall a bit short compared to uncharted 2 and gow because of noticeable lack of polish. and omg the lighting is just amazing :D just another great example of when a nice art design and technical achievement come together.
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#43 Ravenchrome
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I would go as far as saying that Uncharted 2 texture is even better than Crysis 2 PC extreme.

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#44 theuncharted34
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I would go as far as saying that Uncharted 2 texture is even better than Crysis 2 PC extreme.

Ravenchrome

they are. but, the textures on both the pc and console versions of crysis 2 are the same soo... :P

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#45 Ravenchrome
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[QUOTE="Ravenchrome"]

I would go as far as saying that Uncharted 2 texture is even better than Crysis 2 PC extreme.

theuncharted34

they are. but, the textures on both the pc and console versions of crysis 2 are the same soo... :P

That's the thing. If you compare still screenshots of Uncharted 2 next to Crysis 2 PC, Uncharted 2 simply has more saturation and texture fidelity. Not to mention Crysis 2's overall texture is inconsistent especially in day time and the early parts.

But in motion, dynamic lighting with numerous sources, Bokeh, no performance problems (unlike its console sister), etc. Crysis 2 PC is not so far behind Crysis Warhead Max.

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#46 themerlin
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CVG best looking fps ever


http://www.computerandvideogames.com/294813/crysis-2-xbox-360-review/


Eurogamer But it is a world whose intricacy and realism will cause you to stop and stare long after the first drop of the jaw. The sway of tree-tops; the spray of a decorative fountain; the flames erupting from a burst gas pipe: incidental details that grab your attention for their quiet, shocking realism. Who knows how Crytek managed to squeeze Cry Engine 3 onto the consoles while maintaining such extraordinary level of detail? But this world sits next to Uncharted 2's as the most detailed and well-expressed yet seen on our TVs.


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-22-crysis-2-review

digital foundry face off

The crucial thing is that both are phenomenally attractive games, producing effects quite different and in many ways more advanced than anything we've seen elsewhere on console. We all wanted Crysis on console to be an event, a showcase release: by and large, Crytek has delivered, and those cutting edge visuals are backed by a truly impressive game design


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-crysis2-face-off?page=3

IGN Crysis 2 on Xbox 360 has taken the crown for best graphics in a console game


http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/115/1156446p1.html

Electripig Crysis 2 is outstanding in almost every department, not least its visuals, which are the very best either PS3 or Xbox 360 has to offer right now


http://electricpig.co.uk/2011/03/22/crysis-2-review/

GamesRadar Crysis 2 does run on consoles, and it does so beautifully. We're calling it now: Crysis 2 is possibly the best-looking console game ever.


http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/crysis-2/review/crysis-2-review/a-20110318143744168062/g-20090601103043632061

justpushstart.com I find Crysis 2 visuals to be superior to similar shooters like Call of Duty: Black Ops or Killzone 3.


http://www.justpushstart.com/2011/03/22/crysis-2-review/

xg247.co.uk Crysis 2 is definitely the best looking game on consoles and PC


http://www.xg247.co.uk/reviews/crysis2/

XXLGaming The games visuals were just jaw dropping and I have to agree when Crytek says it is setting the bar in console gaming graphics. Just wow.


http://xxlgaming.com/staffreview.asp?gameID=519

joystiq: Though about the millionth FPS built around a plot of an alien invasion, give or take a few, it's also the most beautiful.


http://www.joystiq.com/2011/03/22/crysis-2-review/

destructoid Naturally, the gameplay is all wrapped up with some of the most gorgeous visuals you'll see in a videogame.


http://destructoid.com/review-crysis-2-196986.phtml

gameinformer Crytek wisely sticks to the traits that made the first game successful while simultaneously pushing the boundaries of graphical fidelity.


http://gameinformer.com/games/crysis_2/b/ps3/archive/2011/03/22/crysis-2-review-a-welcome-antithesis-to-copycat-shooters.aspx


Your Move PS3 fanboys.

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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="Ravenchrome"]

I would go as far as saying that Uncharted 2 texture is even better than Crysis 2 PC extreme.

Ravenchrome

they are. but, the textures on both the pc and console versions of crysis 2 are the same soo... :P

That's the thing. If you compare still screenshots of Uncharted 2 next to Crysis 2 PC, Uncharted 2 simply has more saturation and texture fidelity. Not to mention Crysis 2's overall texture is inconsistent especially in day time and the early parts.

But in motion, dynamic lighting with numerous sources, Bokeh, no performance problems (unlike its console sister), etc. Crysis 2 PC is not so far behind Crysis Warhead Max.

yeah, crysis 2 on the pc is almost exactly the same as the console versions core graphics wise,

but on the pc version there's - much less object pop up (a huge plus), higher quality shadows, slightly more accurate lighting, 1080p and 60fps. Crysis 2 on the pc is hella impressive.

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#48 DreamCryotank
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I would go as far as saying that Uncharted 2 texture is even better than Crysis 2 PC extreme.

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Nah...

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#49 theuncharted34
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those are terrible shots of uncharted 2.

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#50 psn8214
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Uh, where are you guys getting this nonsense that Crysis 2 looks the same on consoles as it does on PC? :?