Since the psp had started kicking ds's butt, will it stay that way forever??

[QUOTE="Phil_Ken_Sebben"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Phil_Ken_Sebben"]

Im sorrybut the DS has much more kid trash games.

MUCH MORE. There is no chainging that FACT.

Go look at the DS game list. Thats MORE THAN ENOUGH EVIDENCEE GS's behalf.

There are no Bratz Games on PSP, no Happy Feet game and no Nacho Libre game. Not too mention much more.

And why the hell did you automatically jump to a conclusion that I was refering to somthing like EBA, AW:DS, NSMB or PW?mjarantilla

Because no one cares about low-rated licensed trash

They SELL.

Why the hell would people bother with them if they didnt sell....

Because they're cheap to make (less than $10 million budget), fast to make (six months or less development time), and the licensed name means at least enough people will buy it to make a profit. But do you really think that people buy DSes because of these games? You'd be dreaming.

The lowest common demominator of casual buyers / consumers. 

I know plenty of kids who have got DS's for Xmas / Bday to play 'Cars', Bratz and the Sims on it....

Sure they have nintendogs amd New Mario Bros, but they always go for the 'toy / movie brand names'.

Hell the latest EB catalouge has Bratz on the cover.... Next to Kratos........ Even the DS ad section is full of 'kid cash in games' If that isnt evidence of what attracts customers then god help me.

Sad isnt it.

As if the general public cares how a gaming site rates games. They buy what the like and more often than not it is, or is on, the DS.t2wave

Look at the PS2! 

[QUOTE="GatoFeo"]

No in terms of sells, but remember u sheep said the same thing between the Ps2 & Gamcube. :P

but, now that it's dominating the Ds with more AAA's and AA's. N the upcoming games in the future, especially manhunt, silent hill, god of war and many more. Also with multifuctions N stuff, do u think Psp will stay that way forever??

Now to mention Nintedo will release a new portable system, probably the same system but with a different sexy model. The psp, I'am not really sure yet. Yes, the stick is mess up, but it's much better than the ds in shooters.

Have a Nice Day. :)

snyper1982

TBH. I own a PSP, and wish I had a DS. Luckily, it has GoW coming out, otherwise I would Ebay it and get a DS.

So if I wasnt to play the Real RR, I need the arcade Rave Racer and original RR.... Ok..... What about wifi, downloads, game sharing? 54 cards anyone?

And since when was Burnout Legends a port? Ummm wouldent a 'greatest hits' or 'best of' be appropriate. I have yet to play a Burnout game with as much conent.Phil_Ken_Sebben

Mock sequel, not port. Granted, maybe "game collection" might be a better descriptor for these games, but I don't see why anyone who already has the originals would buy these versions, too.

I dont see how that is a 'port' or 'mock sequal' its just as much of one as Advanced Wars DS....Phil_Ken_Sebben

Play AW DS and play AW GBA and tell me they're the same. The only thing similar are the graphics. Seriously, you have no idea how stupid you sound when you say "Advance Wars DS is a port of Advance Wars on the GBA." It's like comparing WarCraft II (1994) to WarCraft III (2003). That's how bloody big the difference is.

Turns out there are just as many 'mock sequals' or 'ports' - as you define on DS and PSP..... So I dont see where this argument has gone for so long.Phil_Ken_Sebben

Bull****. I've listed THIRTY PORTS on the PSP. Just accept it. The PSP is the port machine. It depends on ports. It lives on ports. The DS may have a lot of sub-par ports and trashy ports, but no one buys a DS to play ported games. It doesn't rely on ports NEARLY as much as the PSP does.

I know plenty of kids who have got DS's for Xmas / Bday to play 'Cars', Bratz and the Sims on it....

Sure they have nintendogs amd New Mario Bros, but they always go for the 'toy / movie brand names'.

Hell the latest EB catalouge has Bratz on the cover.... Next to Kratos........ Even the DS ad section is full of 'kid cash in games' If that isnt evidence of what attracts customers then god help me.

Sad isnt it.

Phil_Ken_Sebben

Good thing that kids don't make up the majority of the DS's user base, then, isn't it? A huge number of working professionals own a DS, and it's not because they have kids. I work at a software dev company, and half the developers on my floor have DSes. One of my friends works for a law firm in downtown LA, another works for TCW, and another is interning at a hospital, and all of THEIR coworkers have DSes. Another one works for a game development company, and so many of her coworkers have DSes that they have weekly Mario Kart tournaments every Tuesday night. And I can assure you that none of these DS owners buy Bratz or Happy Feet.

The only reason EB Games has Bratz on their catalog cover is because the company that makes those damned Bratz dolls paid them to put it there.

Don't think the DS's audience is limited like the PSP's is. The DS's audience is as diverse as the PS2's audience, evidenced by its popularity. I can guarantee you, the PS2 sees more licensed IP sales than the DS does, but I'll bet that you wouldn't take that as an indicator of the PS2's poor game quality. And you shouldn't, because it isn't one. It just means it's the most popular system, just like the DS is the most popular handheld.

Hotel Dusk owns the PSP, its lineup, and Ken Katuragi all by itself.

'Course, Ken pretty much owned himself by releasing the PS3 and getting demoted, but point is, Hotel Dusk > PSP. 

[QUOTE="Prince_Denspion"]

PSP = major potential

DS = Same S@#T different interface (stylus)

Hir0_N

PSP = Same ****, downgraded PS2 with downgraded ports.

DS = Actually good games.

gamecube/N64 remakes/Ports

with a touch stick 

Imagine getting into a Silent Hill game, deep into its atmosphere, getting scared ****less. Then, the bus stops, and you're forced to stop playing. Or imagine having to stop a SOCOM game because your number was just called at the doctor's office.

mjarantilla

Wow I can't believe this thread is still going.

Anyways, as I'm sure you know, the PSP has a sleep function, kind of like closing the DS, it maintains where you are in the game only using minimal battery power. If I'm in the middle of a PSP game, just sleep it, then I can wake it up starting from exactly where I left off.

What's wrong with console games on the go? You make it sound as if it was a bad thing. Don't go taking one reputation of a console and run with it, because you're always bound to find exceptions to the rule.

Wow I can't believe this thread is still going.

Anyways, as I'm sure you know, the PSP has a sleep function, kind of like closing the DS, it maintains where you are in the game only using minimal battery power. If I'm in the middle of a PSP game, just sleep it, then I can wake it up starting from exactly where I left off.mahjustin

So you're ok with interrupting a game like Silent Hill in the middle of a tense scene?

Atmosphere is almost impossible to maintain with portable games because you rarely will have control over your surroundings. Too many things are happening. It doesn't matter that the PSP has a sleep function, because you're still interrupting what should be a seamless experience.

What's wrong with console games on the go? You make it sound as if it was a bad thing. Don't go taking one reputation of a console and run with it, because you're always bound to find exceptions to the rule.mahjustin

It's not a bad thing, but it's not a good thing. Like I said, there's a time and place for everything, and a console experience on a portable is a wasted experience because of the compromises that have to be made.

Like I said, to steal Kojima's analogy, you wouldn't bring a medium-rare ribeye steak on the bus, and you wouldn't bring along a 5.1 surround sound system to a doctor's office. Those are experiences best left at home, just as playing the PSP is an experience best left at home. But, if the PSP is best left at home, then why even make it a portable?

There's just no point to the PSP's existence. 

 ROFL, the PSP is a total failure, it's a borefest, the loading times are enough to make you snore, the battery life is total crap, it looks like **** and the controls are HORRIBLE. It doesn't even have anything decent to play, everything is boring, rehashed crap.

 The PSP will never stand a chance of beating the DS, as more diverse genres with more original games are released on the DS, the PSP will roll over and die.

TNT_Slug

I agree that it's virtually impossible for the PSP to beat the DS, but some of your reasons are quite unwarranted.

Controls are fine. It's basically an SNES controller with an analog stick, I don't see anyone complaining about the SNES controller.

Battery life is fine, 3 hours with wifi on and max brightness/sound settings, I've gotten from 6-8 hours, and you can get 11+ hours with mp3 playback. The DS I can usually get about 10 hours (average settings, usually no wifi). So the PSP is pretty good considering that its games are usually much more CPU intensive.

Loading times I agree can be a pain, but again, you can't take that and say all PSP games have horrible loading times.

The PSP has a lot of decent games to play.

[QUOTE="mahjustin"]What's wrong with console games on the go? You make it sound as if it was a bad thing. Don't go taking one reputation of a console and run with it, because you're always bound to find exceptions to the rule.mjarantilla

It's not a bad thing, but it's not a good thing. Like I said, there's a time and place for everything, and a console experience on a portable is a wasted experience because of the compromises that have to be made.

Like I said, to steal Kojima's analogy, you wouldn't bring a medium-rare ribeye steak on the bus, and you wouldn't bring along a 5.1 surround sound system to a doctor's office. Those are experiences best left at home, just as playing the PSP is an experience best left at home. But, if the PSP is best left at home, then why even make it a portable?

There's just no point to the PSP's existence. 

New Super Mario Bros.
Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass
Mario and Luigi
Resident Evil: Deadly Silence
Yoshi's Island
Mario Kart
Advance Wars
Castlevania
Phoenix Wright
Lunar Knights
Hotel Dusk
Final Fantasy
Trauma Center

All these games are well suited for the console experience because each of these games have pretty involved levels. So why do people produce DS games like this? Are you saying that these games are not rib-eye steaks? Does it not require a good amount of playtime for these games? You don't play these games for 5 minutes and put it down. Since they've done well on the console, why make it portable?

Now if you turn around and tell me that these games are better or more well-suited on the portable than on the console, then ask yourself this: why are some DS games on the console (like the Wii/Gamecube/N64)? Trauma Center, Cooking Mama, Warioware, Brain Age, Animal Crossing, etc, what's the point of bringing them to the home console when it's suited for the portable?

So like I said, what's wrong with the console experience on the PSP? There is none. So the PSP is getting some deep and involving games, I really don't see a problem with that.

The DS is getting games that are deep and involving as well... Ninja Gaiden, Zelda, Dragon Quest IX, Final Fantasy XII? Who am I to complain? The DS is getting great games, and it'd probably be better on the console. But who cares? It's getting great console gaming experiences as well, and that's really good to me.

All these games are well suited for the console experience because each of these games have pretty involved levels. So why do people produce DS games like this? Are you saying that these games are not rib-eye steaks? Does it not require a good amount of playtime for these games? You don't play these games for 5 minutes and put it down. Since they've done well on the console, why make it portable?mahjustin

First, I have no problem with RPGs being on portables, because they're best suited for portables, honestly. I almost bought a PSP because I thought it would get the lion's share of JRPGs, but instead the DS turned out to be the RPG haven for portable gaming. Likewise with TBS games like Advance Wars, which, like a game of chess, can be taken one turn at a time. Games like NSMB and Yoshi's Island may have involving levels, but they aren't demanding levels. It's easy to put those games down and not feel bad about it because they're so light. You can't exactly say the same about MGS or Silent Hill. And Trauma Center is a puzzle game; each of its levels can be completed in five minutes flat, and once a level is done, everything is automatically saved. That's another game that can be had in bite-sized chunks.

We have yet to see Phantom Hourglass. I'm pretty sure that it will also be portable-centric.

Never played RE DS, Lunar Knights, Mario and Luigi, Phoenix Wright, Hotel Dusk, or Castlevania, and yes, it's because they do seem to be involving games that I would not play portably. At least, RE DS and Castlevania. The others I just haven't tried yet, but probably should.

Dragon Quest IX and FFXII Revenant Wings are RPGs, and RPGs, IMO, are perfect for portables because they're so long, but the important bits are few and far between. RPGs are like books to me: deep and involving storylines, but with gameplay adaptable enough to be taken either in small or large chunks.

Now if you turn around and tell me that these games are better or more well-suited on the portable than on the console, then ask yourself this: why are some DS games on the console (like the Wii/Gamecube/N64)? Trauma Center, Cooking Mama, Warioware, Brain Age, Animal Crossing, etc, what's the point of bringing them to the home console when it's suited for the portable?mahjustin

I don't mind portable games on a console, because home gaming is much more flexible. You can enjoy short games or long games equally well on a home console, and in some cases, like social gatherings, short games are awesome to have on a home console, because the local multiplayer experience just isn't the same on a portable. It's only that portable gaming places limitations on how long and how involved you can get into a game that makes home console games wasted on portables.

So the PSP is getting some deep and involving games, I really don't see a problem with that.mahjustin

Quick question: where do you play your PSP the most? Lemme guess: in someone's house, right? Either your own or a friend's, right? That's why you have no problem with it. But if you're playing it at home, what's the point of making the PSP a portable device? So you can play it in your bathroom?

Quick question: where do you play your PSP the most? Lemme guess: in someone's house, right? Either your own or a friend's, right? That's why you have no problem with it. But if you're playing it at home, what's the point of making the PSP a portable device? So you can play it in your bathroom?

mjarantilla

To be honest, I play my PSP at work, on the train, at home, and yes, in the bathroom. I do most of my web browsing and video streaming at home on my PSP at night or when I'm taking a dump (because I want to read by my bedside before sleeping).

I usually play my DS at home actually. Sometimes on the train, but I never pull it out at work for some reason. My gf plays both systems at home, she never brings them outside.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Quick question: where do you play your PSP the most? Lemme guess: in someone's house, right? Either your own or a friend's, right? That's why you have no problem with it. But if you're playing it at home, what's the point of making the PSP a portable device? So you can play it in your bathroom?

mahjustin

To be honest, I play my PSP at work, on the train, at home, and yes, in the bathroom. I do most of my web browsing and video streaming at home on my PSP at night or when I'm taking a dump (because I want to read by my bedside before sleeping).

I usually play my DS at home actually. Sometimes on the train, but I never pull it out at work for some reason. My gf plays both systems at home, she never brings them outside.

Then you'd probably be in the minority.

Another quick question: Would you rather play MGS, Silent Hill, and God of War on the PSP, or the PS2/PS3? 

I like the games for ds more.

Also, the ds constantly outsells everything, every NPD sales mention. So, no, it's too late for the psp. 

Sonick54

agreed, and I have both handhelds...

First, I have no problem with RPGs being on portables, because they're best suited for portables, honestly. I almost bought a PSP because I thought it would get the lion's share of JRPGs, but instead the DS turned out to be the RPG haven for portable gaming. Likewise with TBS games like Advance Wars, which, like a game of chess, can be taken one turn at a time. Games like NSMB and Yoshi's Island may have involving levels, but they aren't demanding levels. It's easy to put those games down and not feel bad about it because they're so light. You can't exactly say the same about MGS or Silent Hill.

mjarantilla

Advance Wars can take anywhere from 3 to 15 minutes to perform one turn... it is NOT a game that can be taken in bite-size chunks, unless you plan to do one turn and sleep the game.

I don't really see why you would need continual gameplay to keep the atmosphere for MGS and Silent Hill. Half the time you are taking our guards, or finding a key for some place, or solving some puzzle, or killing monsters, things you can do in short spurts. You do something significant, you may get a few minute cut-scene, after which you can stop again. Isn't that the same kind of thing you can do in RPGs or action/adventure games? You do a whole bunch of things, then when you do something significant, you're treated to more story elements.

Does this disrupt atmosphere? Perhaps, but can't say that this doesn't apply to DS games either. Playing thru one "day" of Phoenix Wright can take a good hour or two (one day is considered one level), before they allow you to save. So you just put the game to sleep again so you can resume, or do a quick save to resume at the point you stopped. But Phoenix Wright is a game best played uninterrupted.

Like I said, don't take one thing about the PSP (like it only has games suitable for console) and run with it, because people will find the same "flaw" in the DS. There's too many variety of games for the PSP for you to be able to come to a conclusion like that.

The reason for the lack of AAA's and AA's is because the new style of games don't review well on that scale.

[QUOTE="curp11"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="curp11"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="curp11"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="curp11"][QUOTE="Kestastrophe"][QUOTE="curp11"]

PSP= original concepts.................... new sequels and prequels of big-name franchises

mjarantilla

Me thinks I spy a contradiction.

There are original concepts which have never existed before PLUS sequels and prequels of the most anticipated games.

Was that difficult to understand???:|

let me help him

YOUR A COW

Funny how you can't oppose my argument and simply cried out "COW"

So, YOU ARE A SHEEP

:lol: whatever fits your needs.

saying ds all crap ports, and psp ins oringally just tells me your a plan cow thats how i dont need anything else to prove. Since you did it for me :o

good job

Yes, not even a decent port exists on ds. They are all trash.

And by the way, have you not heard of Loco Roco, Pursuit Force, Crush???

If you have not, let me explain in simple words: These are called ORIGINAL games which are on psp

again your not worth my time :) so you wasting your time cow

You are making yourself looking more ignorant with every post, dude. Let me explain why PSP will win.

This year gonna be brilliant for the PSP. Silent Hill (best horror franchise), God Of War ( best of the bests), Syphon Filter Logan's Shadow( the 1st one was already a hit and better than on ps2), Socom ( best tactical strategy game on Sony's side), Devil May Cry( Intense stylish action), FF Crisis Core( everyone waiting for that) and Monster Hunter freedom 2 ( already selling like hot cakes in Japan)

So, atleast you understand that and don't make yourself look rediculous.

And yet, no one bloody cares about those games. Only the hardcore fanboys, that tiny 10% of you who think that you matter and that you direct the overriding philosophies of the video game industry, salivate over those games. Why? Because they aren't made for portable gaming, they are made for home gaming, and as much as you will denigrate casuals, they know this better than you.

Imagine getting into a Silent Hill game, deep into its atmosphere, getting scared ****less. Then, the bus stops, and you're forced to stop playing. Or imagine having to stop a SOCOM game because your number was just called at the doctor's office.

Nintendo understands the priorities of a portable gamer. Hell, they understand the priorities of a working gamer. Sony just thinks of portable gamers as the same couch potatoes who consider themselves "hardcore" gamers. For a while the shiny plastic and flashy graphics approach worked; the PSP almost caught up to the DS. But two years into the portable war, priorities and practicality overtook marketing, and the DS is winning.

Its games generally don't have the same gameplay complexities or deep storylines of PSP games, but they don't have to and they shouldn't anyway. That stuff belongs on home consoles, where they can be properly appreciated. They're just wasted on portables, and sensible buyers know that. To steal Kojima's analogy, you would never take a freshly cooked ribeye steak onto a bus, and you would never bring along your own 5.1 surround sound system into a doctor's office. But you would bring a couple of sandwiches and a nice set of earphones.

And why are these games made for home only?? Hell, everybody around is so excited about playing God Of War on the go. And why not a Monster Hunter round when Im with my friends, out or about a PES match when I meet with friends. Yeah these sound all great and is possible due to the PSP.

Sony is well aware of what gamers, who are on the go, need and they have anwsered to that. The old time has come to an end, that old time when only we could play 2d or cartoon-like games comparaple to the NES, that time that pushed people to believe that handheld gaming would remain like that forever. That time is over. Welcome to this new era where handheld gaming has changed people minds. The greatest franchises into the palm of your hands, that you can play wherever and whenever you like. Playing at Silent Hill under the blanket at night or while camping in the woods. This was what everyone wanted, Or playing at Syphon Filter or MGS or Socom online whenever close to a hotspot. This is what the psp have allowed us to do. In other words, making dreams come true, that no other handheld have been able to accomplish. Believe it or not: the PSP is here to stay.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Quick question: where do you play your PSP the most? Lemme guess: in someone's house, right? Either your own or a friend's, right? That's why you have no problem with it. But if you're playing it at home, what's the point of making the PSP a portable device? So you can play it in your bathroom?

mahjustin

To be honest, I play my PSP at work, on the train, at home, and yes, in the bathroom. I do most of my web browsing and video streaming at home on my PSP at night or when I'm taking a dump (because I want to read by my bedside before sleeping).

I usually play my DS at home actually. Sometimes on the train, but I never pull it out at work for some reason. My gf plays both systems at home, she never brings them outside.

Wait, your allowed to play on your PSP at work... that sounds familiar...

http://www.gamespot.com/psp/action/gtalibertycitystories/news.html?sid=6146221

Oh my, you shouldn't do that, you could hurt somebody... 

Advance Wars can take anywhere from 3 to 15 minutes to perform one turn... it is NOT a game that can be taken in bite-size chunks, unless you plan to do one turn and sleep the game.mahjustin

Yes, it CAN be taken in bite-sized chunks. You don't even need to move all of your units. I've played AW DS in minute-long spurts.

Does this disrupt atmosphere? Perhaps, but can't say that this doesn't apply to DS games either. Playing thru one "day" of Phoenix Wright can take a good hour or two (one day is considered one level), before they allow you to save. So you just put the game to sleep again so you can resume, or do a quick save to resume at the point you stopped. But Phoenix Wright is a game best played uninterrupted.mahjustin

I've never played Phoenix Wright, so I don't know how it plays. But I do know that for the games I like (AW DS, Nintendogs, EBA, Trauma Center, Age of Empires, Final Fantasy III), they can be played in three to five minute spurts without compromising anything. And although it's been a long time since I've played an MGS or Silent Hill game, I do know that I've never spent less than twenty or thirty minutes on those kinds of games.

Like I said, don't take one thing about the PSP (like it only has games suitable for console) and run with it, because people will find the same "flaw" in the DS. There's too many variety of games for the PSP for you to be able to come to a conclusion like that.mahjustin

Of course you can find the same flaw with the DS, but my point is that it doesn't crop up NEARLY as often as it does with the PSP.

And why are these games made for home only?? Hell, everybody around is so excited about playing God Of War on the go. And why not a Monster Hunter round when Im with my friends, out or about a PES match when I meet with friends. Yeah these sound all great and is possible due to the PSP.curp11

No, everyone is excited about playing God of War, not God of War on the go. It's not like that blog where the blogger exclaimed about how excited he was that DQIX was now on the DS instead of a home console. The excitement around God of War Chains of Olympus is due purely to the fact that it's a new GoW game. If it had been a PS2 or PS3 game, the excitement would be the same.

Sony is well aware of what gamers, who are on the go, need and they have anwsered to that. The old time has come to an end, that old time when only we could play 2d or cartoon-like games comparaple to the NES, that time that pushed people to believe that handheld gaming would remain like that forever. That time is over. Welcome to this new era where handheld gaming has changed people minds. The greatest franchises into the palm of your hands, that you can play wherever and whenever you like. Playing at Silent Hill under the blanket at night or while camping in the woods. This was what everyone wanted, Or playing at Syphon Filter or MGS or Socom online whenever close to a hotspot. This is what the psp have allowed us to do. In other words, making dreams come true, that no other handheld have been able to accomplish. Believe it or not: the PSP is here to stay.curp11

You sound like a goddamn televangelist. 

[QUOTE="qewrewq"][QUOTE="RedLobsterpwns"]

[QUOTE="qewrewq"]Wow, I see nobody read the topic..he didn't say PSP is kicking DS's butt in terms of sales, he said it's kicking its butt in terms of higher rated games, which is actually true.RedLobsterpwns

Sure, its kicking DS's but on gamespot, but just about every other reliable website and magazine disagree's with gamespot on that. But, we're on gamespot, so i guess we have to go by gamespot's scores, which means THPS3 >= every other game in existance.

In IGN it has more AAA/AA's than the DS aswell, can you list some of those "reliable" websites that give DS games higher ratings?

No, not really, i usually just go with gamerankings since it has the average of all the sites. 

How about Gameinformer magizine which has ratings higher than the ds.

According to gamerankings the DS has 3 AAAs and the PSP has 2 AAAs. According to gamespot the DS has 7 AAAs and the PSP has 5 AAAs.

 What were you saying about the PSP kicking DS's butt in AAAs?

According to gamerankings the DS has 3 AAAs and the PSP has 2 AAAs. According to gamespot the DS has 7 AAAs and the PSP has 5 AAAs.

What were you saying about the PSP kicking DS's butt in AAAs?

DarkRider23

About GameSpot, remember that GS counts Nintendogs three times. :P

And on GameRankings, the DS has 3 AAAs and 28 AAs, while the PSP has one AAA and 35 AAs.

EDIT: Oh, you set the filter to have a minimum of 1 review, that's why. I set the filter to only list games that have been reviewed by twenty or more sites. Never mind.

[QUOTE="Prince_Denspion"]

PSP = major potential

DS = Same S@#T different interface (stylus)

Hir0_N

PSP = Same ****, downgraded PS2 with downgraded ports.

DS = Actually good games.

[QUOTE="Hir0_N"][QUOTE="Prince_Denspion"]

PSP = major potential

DS = Same S@#T different interface (stylus)

skixwolf

PSP = Same ****, downgraded PS2 with downgraded ports.

DS = Actually good games.

No, but almost everything else is. 

[QUOTE="Sonick54"]

I like the games for ds more.

Also, the ds constantly outsells everything, every NPD sales mention. So, no, it's too late for the psp.

Prince_Denspion

PSP has God of War, and several final fantasy's coming around the horizon plus many more, this war is far from over.

oh well hey there, PS2. :)  

[QUOTE="Prince_Denspion"][QUOTE="Sonick54"]

I like the games for ds more.

Also, the ds constantly outsells everything, every NPD sales mention. So, no, it's too late for the psp.

distrbdslipsoad

PSP has God of War, and several final fantasy's coming around the horizon plus many more, this war is far from over.

oh well hey there, PS2. :)

Several? you mean the FF7 spinoff and the remakes of FF1 + FF2 from the GBA? 

and GOW cant compare to Ninja Gaiden + Zelda 

    Vs  

All I can Say Is LOL XD

[QUOTE="Sonick54"]

I like the games for ds more.

Also, the ds constantly outsells everything, every NPD sales mention. So, no, it's too late for the psp.

Prince_Denspion

PSP has God of War, and several final fantasy's coming around the horizon plus many more, this war is far from over.

Tell me your joking, the DS gas more Final fantasies coming also, and the DS has DragonQuest 9 coming. This war was over a LONG time ago. 

[QUOTE="curp11"]And why are these games made for home only?? Hell, everybody around is so excited about playing God Of War on the go. And why not a Monster Hunter round when Im with my friends, out or about a PES match when I meet with friends. Yeah these sound all great and is possible due to the PSP.mjarantilla

No, everyone is excited about playing God of War, not God of War on the go. It's not like that blog where the blogger exclaimed about how excited he was that DQIX was now on the DS instead of a home console. The excitement around God of War Chains of Olympus is due purely to the fact that it's a new GoW game. If it had been a PS2 or PS3 game, the excitement would be the same.

Sony is well aware of what gamers, who are on the go, need and they have anwsered to that. The old time has come to an end, that old time when only we could play 2d or cartoon-like games comparaple to the NES, that time that pushed people to believe that handheld gaming would remain like that forever. That time is over. Welcome to this new era where handheld gaming has changed people minds. The greatest franchises into the palm of your hands, that you can play wherever and whenever you like. Playing at Silent Hill under the blanket at night or while camping in the woods. This was what everyone wanted, Or playing at Syphon Filter or MGS or Socom online whenever close to a hotspot. This is what the psp have allowed us to do. In other words, making dreams come true, that no other handheld have been able to accomplish. Believe it or not: the PSP is here to stay.curp11

You sound like a goddamn televangelist. 

Admit it, the psp is a revolution. Sony has changed our(incl. you) view on handheld gaming.

And what has nintendo done??  Taking your money while making you thinking its a completely different thing but it's the same.

The Gameboy history accounts for my statement:

The 1st Gameboy I played was the gameboy pocket, so let's start with that particular handheld.

It was a major step in handheld gaming. Then came the Gameboy Color. What was new with this one? NOTHING but only minor changes like addition of 56 colors and being slim. Great!!

Next came the Gameboy Advance. It was not a breakthrough but anyway attracted people. Games were almost the same. No 3d chip, so no 3d games. People were fooled thinking that the GBA could run games on par as ps1 graphics.

And then came the GBASP, a lite edition of the GBA with a clamshell design and buit-in backlight, Nintendo was again making more and more money.

And finally, came the DS. And what is that??????? The gimmicky GBA. The same games with diffent interface. Yes, how great!!!

Well since the PSP looks cool and the DS is ugly...Mudig

I'm not easily thrilled by a system that looks like a rear-view mirror.

Pretty much sums this up, ridiculous argument 

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AgentA-Mi6

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The PSP will NEVER out sell the DS.

That still dosent mean it wont sell well. Hell 10 million+ IS good sales.It simply is nowhere as outstanding as the DSs sales.

Phil_Ken_Sebben

So the DS won. The DS ahs better first party, better third party, better ahrdware and cheaper hardware

what does the PSP have, an MP3 player? 

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The PSP will NEVER out sell the DS.

That still dosent mean it wont sell well. Hell 10 million+ IS good sales.It simply is nowhere as outstanding as the DSs sales.

NorthlandMan

So the DS won. The DS ahs better first party, better third party, better ahrdware and cheaper hardware

what does the PSP have, an MP3 player?

i could buy a quality, 20 GB MP3 player for leagues less than the PSP. it's got nothing. :| 

Psp is doing good, but will never exceed DS in any category, except for functionality and better hardware.

lantus

price was the psp downfall now its getting cheaper  the psp will start to out sell the ds

dont think it will ever catch the ds in total systems sold tho,coz nintendo will just bring out ds lite sp and every1 who bought a ds and ds lite will just put them in a box then go buy that must have ds lite sp 

i could buy a quality, 20 GB MP3 player for leagues less than the PSP. it's got nothing. :|

distrbdslipsoad

it has that crappy moveable button thing. that's quite funny 

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i could buy a quality, 20 GB MP3 player for leagues less than the PSP. it's got nothing. :|

NorthlandMan

it has that crappy moveable button thing. that's quite funny

that analog nub? the gamestop nearest to my house has a plastic block surrounding the damn thing to prevent it from falling off. :lol: 

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kittykatz5k

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Your Comparison is very funny too XD XD XD XD :wink: 

Need to get people to chip in and get a shirt made for Ken.

"I created the PS3 and all i got for it was getting fired."

ok first off all,all you psp people who ACTUALLY think that the PSP is better has no clue how fun the DS is,thats what a portable is for,its not to play long console games with a screen you can HARDLY see outside,i mean come on,GOD OF WAR is already a dark game,just image playing that outside,damn iw ont see a thing apart from my own face reflection on the screen.

the DS is so portably good,i meann come on,THE DS IS THE BIGGEST AND FASTEST SELLING  SYSTEM FOR A REASON,are you PSP RETARDS blind to the facts?you can play your MGS:PO on the bus but it aint a pick and go game.the PSP is a real good bulit system but it has MAJOR FLAWs for a portable system that claims its going to  over take nintendo in the portable war.who ever said they PSP gives 11+ battery life is seriously sucking hes own errection,i owned a PSP AND I TELL YOU THIS,the battery life is probably the worst battery next to the game gear,NDS LITE has a longgggggg battery life.

i rather play a game of mario kart on the bus then load up ridge racer and wait for the load screens,come on man,DS IS OUTSELLING THE PSP BY FARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRr, just get with it,the PSP might be good to play at home iwth the charger in,other then that,dont take it outside,its uselessi rather play phoenix wright then play ANY PSP game,and i cnt FRIGGIN WAIT for 3 and 4, 

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Wow. Does people still think that DS games are better?

The last decent DS game I saw was Hotel Dusk.

mjarantilla

The last decent PSP game I saw was....

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....I can't remember.

Crush just came out and has gotten rave reviews.

I agree that the PSP has gotten a bad rap. It's not a bad handheld at all. But I'm more into the DS and its games. It's cheaper, has cheaper games, and has more of the type of games that I enjoy. The only games I'd really love to play on the PSP are the MGS games.