Since when did the Xbox 360 has the 'best games'

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#1 TheSolution3k
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I keep seeing this mentioned over and over again in this bottomless pit of foolishness called 'System Wars. The Playstation 2 obviously has the best games. How did these statements end up on the 360? 

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I keep seeing this mentioned over and over again in this bottomless pit of foolishness called 'System Wars. The Playstation 2 obviously has the best games. How did these statements end up on the 360?

TheSolution3k

Your opinion.

 

I enjoy my 360 more than my ps2 right now.

 

Oh by the way, PC obviously has the best games. 

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#3 ShakeNBake1491
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That is an opinion in system wars, that's why.
Plus, I doubt anyone is counting past generations, because if that was the case, I would say the SNES has the best games.

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#4 foxhound_fox
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Of course the PS2 has the best games. It has already been out for 7 years... it is a last-gen system...
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#5 dimar19
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Oh by the way, PC obviously has the best games.

duncanvk

 LOL 

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#6 Boba_Fett_3710
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PC has the best games, whatever the 360 can handle usually gets ported.
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#7 the-very-best
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PS2 had the best games of last gen.

360 has the best games atm, for this gen. 

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#8 raualex
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Of course the PS2 has the best games. It has already been out for 7 years... it is a last-gen system...foxhound_fox

:O shocking piece of logic... now you know how us ps3 guys are feeling atm.

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#9 deactivated-5a07ca3443cc2
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[QUOTE="duncanvk"]

Oh by the way, PC obviously has the best games.

dimar19

LOL

Care to prove me wrong?
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#10 dimar19
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PC has the best games, whatever the 360 can handle usually gets ported.Boba_Fett_3710

 PC has the worst games. X360 on top, then - PS2 

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#11 MorisUkunRasik
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it has the best games that are out, down the road the statement is debateable. You can't compare the ps2 library to the 360's 7 years vs 1 1/2 not exactly fair even though the ps3 can play pretty much every aa+ title from the ps2 era it stilll has yet to have more aa+ titles than the 360 nor does the wii. Its pretty much fact that the 360 has more aa+ titles, but will it stay that way?
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#12 project343
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I believe people refer to the 7th generation of gaming when they talk about the Xbox 360. Comparing a nearly-2 year old console's library to a 6 year old console's library will simply lead to a poor analysis.
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#13 MorisUkunRasik
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[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]PC has the best games, whatever the 360 can handle usually gets ported.dimar19

PC has the worst games. X360 on top, then - PS2

 

PS2 has the most aa+ titles so no you fail, but it has a good 5 years on the 360. As far as current gen consoles go yes 360> 

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[QUOTE="dimar19"][QUOTE="duncanvk"]

Oh by the way, PC obviously has the best games.

duncanvk

LOL

Care to prove me wrong?

Care to prove yourself right? Seriously there's no proving to be done her. The word "best" is subjective, and even if you reference reviews, these are also based on subjective views. Maybe support, but hardly "prove".

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I keep seeing this mentioned over and over again in this bottomless pit of foolishness called 'System Wars. The Playstation 2 obviously has the best games. How did these statements end up on the 360?

TheSolution3k
out of all next-gen consoles, the x360 definitely has the best games.
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ps tripple make the best games :P
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[QUOTE="duncanvk"][QUOTE="dimar19"][QUOTE="duncanvk"]

Oh by the way, PC obviously has the best games.

-RPGamer-

LOL

Care to prove me wrong?

Care to prove yourself right? Seriously there's no proving to be done her. The word "best" is subjective, and even if you reference reviews, these are also based on subjective views. Maybe support, but hardly "prove".

I meant in respect of technical numbers of A, AA, AAA's.

 

No their personal opinion on the game. It seems the TC's point was PS2 has more games.

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#18 dimar19
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PS2 has the most aa+ titles so no you fail, but it has a good 5 years on the 360. As far as current gen consoles go yes 360>

MorisUkunRasik

 Most of AAA JRPG? Yes. Racing games, shooters, CRPG? Almost no good games at all.

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[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]

PS2 has the most aa+ titles so no you fail, but it has a good 5 years on the 360. As far as current gen consoles go yes 360>

dimar19

Most of AAA JRPG? Yes. Racing games, shooters, CRPG? Almost no good games at all.

CRPG?
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um they mean out of current gen systems. and right now the 360 library keeps growing, keeps getting more divers, consistantly adds AAs, and is expanding its AAA library soon. so yes versus PS3 and Wii its got the better library at the moment. with a little help from the 1 year head start. but all in all the PC has the best library of all time. since its game library is almost endless.
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#21 JPOBS
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47 AA's and 5 AAA's speak for themselves.

 

/thread 

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Care to prove yourself right? Seriously there's no proving to be done her. The word "best" is subjective, and even if you reference reviews, these are also based on subjective views. Maybe support, but hardly "prove".

-RPGamer-

Man I just gave up PC gaming cause can't play this crap anymore. Say PC gaming 1997-2000, I agree. 2004-now - almost no good games at all.

I was really happy when I bought X360 and thrown my PC through the window after playing the whole 2005 old games from 1998-2000 on my PC. They were very good but I have played them already at least two times before.

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#23 ShakeNBake1491
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47 AA's and 5 AAA's speak for themselves.

 

/thread 

JPOBS



Yep, that tends to come with an opinion and a year headstart.
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#24 MTBare
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[QUOTE="dimar19"]

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]PC has the best games, whatever the 360 can handle usually gets ported.MorisUkunRasik

PC has the worst games. X360 on top, then - PS2

 

PS2 has the most aa+ titles so no you fail, but it has a good 5 years on the 360. As far as current gen consoles go yes 360>

Umm.. The PC has about 3x as many AAA's and AA's as the ps2. 

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[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"][QUOTE="duncanvk"][QUOTE="dimar19"][QUOTE="duncanvk"]

Oh by the way, PC obviously has the best games.

duncanvk

LOL

Care to prove me wrong?

Care to prove yourself right? Seriously there's no proving to be done her. The word "best" is subjective, and even if you reference reviews, these are also based on subjective views. Maybe support, but hardly "prove".

I meant in respect of technical numbers of A, AA, AAA's.

 

No their personal opinion on the game. It seems the TC's point was PS2 has more games.

That's not proof, that's support.

Those number of A, AA, AAA are all based on subjectivity. You can't prove opinion with opinion, you can support it.

It it's really unfair to compare a system that has no definitive generations to that of console which are all locked into generations.

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#26 typester
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That is an opinion in system wars, that's why.
Plus, I doubt anyone is counting past generations, because if that was the case, I would say the SNES has the best games.

ShakeNBake1491

NICE!!!!;).  I couldn't of said it better myself.

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#27 JPOBS
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[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

47 AA's and 5 AAA's speak for themselves.

 

/thread

ShakeNBake1491




Yep, that tends to come with an opinion and a year headstart.

when someone asks "which console has the best game"

it makes little sense to say "360, but only because it had a years headstart" as much as that true, sayign that it had a head start does nothing to disprove the fact that the 360, does indeed, have the best (and most) games. plain and simple.

 

 

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#28 mwa
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I keep seeing this mentioned over and over again in this bottomless pit of foolishness called 'System Wars. The Playstation 2 obviously has the best games. How did these statements end up on the 360?

TheSolution3k

lol i think when ppl say 360 has the best games they're talking about this gen, not all time

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I keep seeing this mentioned over and over again in this bottomless pit of foolishness called 'System Wars. The Playstation 2 obviously has the best games. How did these statements end up on the 360? 

TheSolution3k

 

if so id say the snes and the 64 had kick a$$ games

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#30 pundog
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While its an opinion as to whether a system has the best games or not, in order to keep some sort of order in SW you have to use the scores as a measure of how good the games on a system are. And when comparing the games on the next-gen systems (by score) the 360 has by far a better lineup with more AAA and AA games than either the PS3 or Wii.
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#31 MorisUkunRasik
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[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"]

PS2 has the most aa+ titles so no you fail, but it has a good 5 years on the 360. As far as current gen consoles go yes 360>

dimar19

Most of AAA JRPG? Yes. Racing games, shooters, CRPG? Almost no good games at all.

 

it doesn't matter if it only had AAA JRPGs we're talking about how many good games not concerning genre, either way ps2 has more either way you spin it. 

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ps tripple make the best games :PTaz-Bone

 

oh no dont remind me of that loser Chad warden from youtube,funny how half of youtube hates him lol

  

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[QUOTE="duncanvk"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"][QUOTE="duncanvk"][QUOTE="dimar19"][QUOTE="duncanvk"]

Oh by the way, PC obviously has the best games.

-RPGamer-

LOL

Care to prove me wrong?

Care to prove yourself right? Seriously there's no proving to be done her. The word "best" is subjective, and even if you reference reviews, these are also based on subjective views. Maybe support, but hardly "prove".

I meant in respect of technical numbers of A, AA, AAA's.

 

No their personal opinion on the game. It seems the TC's point was PS2 has more games.

That's not proof, that's support.

Those number of A, AA, AAA are all based on subjectivity. You can't prove opinion with opinion, you can support it.

It it's really unfair to compare a system that has no definitive generations to that of console which are all locked into generations.

It's also unfair to compare the PS2 to the 360?  That means that everything about games are based on opinions. Well let's our senses as "prove."

 

My eyes tell me the PC has better graphics.

 My ears are telling me PC has better sound.

 

Those aren't subjective, if you took the best a console could offer next to a PC, guess who would win?

 

It's about as fair as you splitting hairs to defend an already subjective statement. 

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#34 dimar19
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My eyes tell me the PC has better graphics.

duncanvk

 How about to visit your eye doctor? You really need this. :D 

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We're talking about next generation consoles in those discussions of course.
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[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"][QUOTE="duncanvk"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"][QUOTE="duncanvk"][QUOTE="dimar19"][QUOTE="duncanvk"]

Oh by the way, PC obviously has the best games.

duncanvk

LOL

Care to prove me wrong?

Care to prove yourself right? Seriously there's no proving to be done her. The word "best" is subjective, and even if you reference reviews, these are also based on subjective views. Maybe support, but hardly "prove".

I meant in respect of technical numbers of A, AA, AAA's.

 

No their personal opinion on the game. It seems the TC's point was PS2 has more games.

That's not proof, that's support.

Those number of A, AA, AAA are all based on subjectivity. You can't prove opinion with opinion, you can support it.

It it's really unfair to compare a system that has no definitive generations to that of console which are all locked into generations.

It's also unfair to compare the PS2 to the 360?  That means that everything about games are based on opinions. Well let's our senses as "prove."

 

My eyes tell me the PC has better graphics.

 My ears are telling me PC has better sound.

 

Those aren't subjective, if you took the best a console could offer next to a PC, guess who would win?

 

It's about as fair as you splitting hairs to defend an already subjective statement. 

Did I say it was fair to compare the Xbox 360 to the PS2? No.

Sound is subjective, yeah spitting out 5.1 is better tha standard stereo support, but that doesn't make the actual music developed by the companies any less subjective.

Graphics are subjective in the sense of artistic direction, but objective in the sense of prowess of an engine (FPS, polys, shaders etc.).

You say graphics and sound as if they're just objective portions of games, that's not true in the slightest. The art that sound and graphics portray to the gamer are subjective. So you can show me a strong PC title verse a strong console title, and I'm not always going to pick the PC title merely b/c it has more hardware to work with, resulting in better technical prowess. Yet again though, you're comparing PC (a system with no bounds of strict generation hardware) to that of consoles.

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#37 deactivated-57a12126af02c
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No console will ever touch the great game that the ps2 had, maybe the ps3.
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#38 deactivated-600fd0017f1ba
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This whole thread is a matter of opinion, I owned all three systems last gen, and of the three, I played my PS2 the least,  but that doesn't mean it wasn't a great system, I just liked XBOX and GameCube better.

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[QUOTE="duncanvk"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"][QUOTE="duncanvk"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"][QUOTE="duncanvk"][QUOTE="dimar19"][QUOTE="duncanvk"]

Oh by the way, PC obviously has the best games.

-RPGamer-

LOL

Care to prove me wrong?

Care to prove yourself right? Seriously there's no proving to be done her. The word "best" is subjective, and even if you reference reviews, these are also based on subjective views. Maybe support, but hardly "prove".

I meant in respect of technical numbers of A, AA, AAA's.

 

No their personal opinion on the game. It seems the TC's point was PS2 has more games.

That's not proof, that's support.

Those number of A, AA, AAA are all based on subjectivity. You can't prove opinion with opinion, you can support it.

It it's really unfair to compare a system that has no definitive generations to that of console which are all locked into generations.

It's also unfair to compare the PS2 to the 360? That means that everything about games are based on opinions. Well let's our senses as "prove."

 

My eyes tell me the PC has better graphics.

My ears are telling me PC has better sound.

 

Those aren't subjective, if you took the best a console could offer next to a PC, guess who would win?

 

It's about as fair as you splitting hairs to defend an already subjective statement.

Did I say it was fair to compare the Xbox 360 to the PS2? No.

Sound is subjective, yeah spitting out 5.1 is better tha standard stereo support, but that doesn't make the actual music developed by the companies any less subjective.

Graphics are subjective in the sense of artistic direction, but objective in the sense of prowess of an engine (FPS, polys, shaders etc.).

You say graphics and sound as if they're just objective portions of games, that's not true in the slightest. The art that sound and graphics portray to the gamer are subjective. So you can show me a strong PC title verse a strong console title, and I'm not always going to pick the PC title merely b/c it has more hardware to work with, resulting in better technical prowess. Yet again though, you're comparing PC (a system with no bounds of strict generation hardware) to that of consoles.

Touche.