Singstar vs WiiFit: The Battle for the casuals.

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#1 NobuoMusicMaker
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A home-based Karaoke machine or a virtual exercise video?

There's no doubt that singing is a huge market everywhere and especially with America with all those American Idol type talent shows. Fitness is also very popular but fitness devices and methods are constantly changing and advancing.

I, myself, don't like singing or doing stationary fitness (I play tennis). I do think Singstar will get more casuals because the music industry is much, much larger than the fitness industry.

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#2 foxhound_fox
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WiiFit is going to be a smash hit. It will probably go down in history as the biggest selling game... ever. Singstar just cannot compete.
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#3 GundamGuy0
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You forgot SceenIt Xbox360...
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You forgot SceenIt Xbox360... GundamGuy0
oh! you beat me to it...
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#5 Michael85
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Singstar is coming out on a system that doesn't have the required audience. It's like Viva Pinata coming out on the 360. Expecting it to do better than Wii Fit is pure gullibility.
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what about stuff that's actually fun like DDR and guitar hero.
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#7 iunderstand
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Wow, this is probably the least fanboyish thread/post I've seen of yours.
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#8 Dencore
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Do you people even realize that there was already a "Singstar" type game in America?

Karaoke Revolution?

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#9 da1on2
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I would prefer SingStar, I go to the gym 5 days a week no need for a WiiFit.
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#10 NobuoMusicMaker
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WiiFit is going to be a smash hit. It will probably go down in history as the biggest selling game... ever. Singstar just cannot compete.foxhound_fox

Singstar can't compete when it's already sold more units than Wiis?

"It's a $200 and something million dollar franchise for us, over 10 million units." - Phil Harrison

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#11 XenogearsMaster
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I don't really need a Wiifit but I want to practice singing a lot more so Singstar is for me.
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#12 foxhound_fox
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Singstar can't compete when it's already sold more units than Wiis?

"It's a $200 and something million dollar franchise for us, over 10 million units." - Phil Harrison

NobuoMusicMaker


You don't realise how big WiiFit is going to be... do you?
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#13 NobuoMusicMaker
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[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]Singstar can't compete when it's already sold more units than Wiis?

"It's a $200 and something million dollar franchise for us, over 10 million units." - Phil Harrison

foxhound_fox



You don't realise how big WiiFit is going to be... do you?

I don't realize your imagination. Because WiiFit being bigger than the Wii itself is quite some imagination there.

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#14 xDonRobx
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Karaoke>Excercise.

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#15 Dencore
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]WiiFit is going to be a smash hit. It will probably go down in history as the biggest selling game... ever. Singstar just cannot compete.NobuoMusicMaker

Singstar can't compete when it's already sold more units than Wiis?

"It's a $200 and something million dollar franchise for us, over 10 million units." - Phil Harrison

They have 15 Singstar's in the franchise. :|

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#16 wavebrid
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Boogie :roll:

you get wiifit and boogie two on one system whcih is better :o

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#17 Xerlaoth
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Wii Fit will sell more, because of install base, media coverage, and platform cost.
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You forgot to add Rock Band and Guitar Hero.
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#19 NobuoMusicMaker
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Wii Fit will sell more, because of install base, media coverage, and platform cost.Xerlaoth

Yeah really... 9 million Wiis vs 120 million PS2s + 4-5 million PS3s.

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#20 PBSnipes
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WiiFit is going to be huge. I'm with Foxhound_Fox, it'll probably be the highest selling game ever. We're in an age where every other news report is on how fat people are and where people seem to think if you aren't a perfect weight you're ugly and a failure. So now Nintendo is going to have a product that is scaleable in terms of the amount of work you do, for less than a gym membership, that you can do in the comfort of your own home without being the size of a treadmill/bike/bowflex. Hell I'm an athlete in good shape and I'm thinking about getting one. God knows what the soccer moms are going to do when they see this one on the 6 o'clock news.
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Wii Fit on the Wii will beat Singstar on the PS3.

You're stacking the cards toward Singstar's favor by including the PS2 sales. PS2 is not relevant to this generation.

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#22 NobuoMusicMaker
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Wii Fit on the Wii will beat Singstar on the PS3.

You're stacking the cards toward Singstar's favor by including the PS2 sales. PS2 is not relevant to this generation.

hiho24

Did I even mention the PS3? Please, stop using your imagination when it comes to forums.

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#23 hiho24
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[QUOTE="hiho24"]

Wii Fit on the Wii will beat Singstar on the PS3.

You're stacking the cards toward Singstar's favor by including the PS2 sales. PS2 is not relevant to this generation.

NobuoMusicMaker

Did I even mention the PS3? Please, stop using your imagination when it comes to forums.

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[QUOTE="Xerlaoth"]Wii Fit will sell more, because of install base, media coverage, and platform cost.NobuoMusicMaker

Yeah really... 9 million Wiis vs 120 million PS2s + 4-5 million PS3s.

So you're admitting that Singstar fails when it comes to competing with Wii Fit on the PS3?

Reguardless Wii Fit could possibly outsell the Singstar Series completely.

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A home-based Karaoke machine or a virtual exercise video?

There's no doubt that singing is a huge market everywhere and especially with America with all those American Idol type talent shows. Fitness is also very popular but fitness devices and methods are constantly changing and advancing.

I, myself, don't like singing or doing stationary fitness (I play tennis). I do think Singstar will get more casuals because the music industry is much, much larger than the fitness industry.

NobuoMusicMaker

Well the gaming industry is much larger than the music industry.

WiiFit will easily sell more.

Nintendogs sells more than SingStar sucks. I mean SingStar rocks.

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A home-based Karaoke machine or a virtual exercise video?

There's no doubt that singing is a huge market everywhere and especially with America with all those American Idol type talent shows. Fitness is also very popular but fitness devices and methods are constantly changing and advancing.

I, myself, don't like singing or doing stationary fitness (I play tennis). I do think Singstar will get more casuals because the music industry is much, much larger than the fitness industry.

NobuoMusicMaker

A home-based Karaoke machine or a virtual exercise video?

There's no doubt that singing is a huge market everywhere and especially with America with all those American Idol type talent shows. Fitness is also very popular but fitness devices and methods are constantly changing and advancing.

I, myself, don't like singing or doing stationary fitness (I play tennis). I do think Singstar will get more casuals because the music industry is much, much larger than the fitness industry.

NobuoMusicMaker

A home-based Karaoke machine or a virtual exercise video?

There's no doubt that singing is a huge market everywhere and especially with America with all those American Idol type talent shows. Fitness is also very popular but fitness devices and methods are constantly changing and advancing.

I, myself, don't like singing or doing stationary fitness (I play tennis). I do think Singstar will get more casuals because the music industry is much, much larger than the fitness industry.

NobuoMusicMaker

hell yeah were do u think american idol came fromthe uk but it wasnt called american idol makes since. karaoke is huge in japan and europe singstar is going to move hella ps3 i can see a huge jump coming up

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and the story of a river that flowed

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You forgot to add Rock Band and Guitar Hero.briguyb13

Ah quoted for the truth, I was about to bring that up before I read your post. You can't pass off Guitar Hero/Rockband as hardcore. Hardcores love it but it's definitely not hardcore. Expensive too. Throw in DDR while you're at it.

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[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"][QUOTE="hiho24"]

Wii Fit on the Wii will beat Singstar on the PS3.

You're stacking the cards toward Singstar's favor by including the PS2 sales. PS2 is not relevant to this generation.

hiho24

Did I even mention the PS3? Please, stop using your imagination when it comes to forums.

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[QUOTE="Xerlaoth"]Wii Fit will sell more, because of install base, media coverage, and platform cost.NobuoMusicMaker

Yeah really... 9 million Wiis vs 120 million PS2s + 4-5 million PS3s.

like a true lemming singstar 200 million dollar f

So you're admitting that Singstar fails when it comes to competing with Wii Fit on the PS3?

Reguardless Wii Fit could possibly outsell the Singstar Series completely.

lol like a true lemming singstar a 200 million dollar frachise do u know how many copies sold that is

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So you're admitting that Singstar fails when it comes to competing with Wii Fit on the PS3?

Reguardless Wii Fit could possibly outsell the Singstar Series completely.

hiho24

We're talking about install base. PS3 can run Singstar. WiiFit can't run on the GameCube.

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#30 m_machine024
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WiiFit is related to Wii. It's gonna be a success just because of that. Not sure about US but it will be popular in Japan for sure.
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#31 hiho24
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lol like a true lemming singstar a 200 million dollar frachise do u know how many copies sold that is

mgsbethatgame

I said it was possible. And it is. This 200 million dollar franchise has had 3 years to mature on a platform dominated by casuals. Wii Fit is a new franchise that will be released on a platform dominated by casual gamers, give it a few years.

There is nothing biased about this statement.

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#32 E_x_i_l_e
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I'd much rather have Singstar

Reasons:

  • I enjoy music
  • I use iTunes
  • I use Myspace
  • Singing with friends is funny because you get to see how bad all of you suck
  • WiiFit... I play games knowing the fact I'm not going to be getting exercise but when I do I'd much rather have fun doing it.. not standing on a damn balance board.
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#33 E_x_i_l_e
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WiiFit is related to Wii. It's gonna be a success just because of that. Not sure about US but it will be popular in Japan for sure.m_machine024

Btw, wth do they have to exercise for? :O

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and sceenit is not on here because?
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[QUOTE="hiho24"]

So you're admitting that Singstar fails when it comes to competing with Wii Fit on the PS3?

Reguardless Wii Fit could possibly outsell the Singstar Series completely.

NobuoMusicMaker

We're talking about install base. PS3 can run Singstar. WiiFit can't run on the GameCube.

Exactly. So Wii Fit could beat Singstar on the PS3 becuse the 4-5 million install base is going up against the Wii's 8+ million install base. The PS2 isnt relavent because Wii Fit runs under current gen technology. Unlike Singstar.

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#36 sPOON_f33dU
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wii fit may be huge as my rod, but singstar is where it's at. casuals would rather sing than excercise. Look at America!!!!

everyone is fat because they don't excercise, they'd rather sit on their couches and sing FTW!!!!

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WiiFit is related to Wii. It's gonna be a success just because of that. Not sure about US but it will be popular in Japan for sure.m_machine024

Singing is huge in Japan, Korea, Hong Kong and China.

Exactly. So Wii Fit could beat Singstar on the PS3 becuse the 4-5 million install base is going up against the Wii's 8+ million install base. The PS2 isnt relavent because Wii Fit runs under current gen technology. Unlike Singstar.

hiho24

Huh? Huh? PS2 is relevant. Singstar is growing off the install base of the PS2 and continuing to the PS3. Do you actually think the songs just stop working because of the cell or HD? That's just silly.

And there's nothing current gen about the Wii, it is last gen technology.

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#38 Zam_basic
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Sony's gonna have to make MTV style infomercials to push the singstar for the ps3

mall expos etc

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#39 gromit007
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If you go look at software sales at vgchartz, you will find that NO iteration of SingStar has broken 1 million units sold. If it is a $200 million franchise, thats 4 million sold (@ $50) over ALL the versions.

WiiFit will be huge. I would imagine Boogie will outsell Singstar.

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Singstar is absolutely massive in Australia so I don't think Wiifit will outsell it here. Worldwide though, it's gonna be close/interesting.
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#41 gromit007
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Sony's gonna have to make MTV style infomercials to push the singstar for the ps3

mall expos etc

Zam_basic

The MTV crowd cant afford a PS3, they're too young. Their parents will be the money-lenders and they will be more attracted to the Wii. Hell, I forgot about the High School Musical Wii game. Yeah, SingStar will suck.

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#42 Zam_basic
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lets be realistic about this ........no one wants to exercise.
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#43 gromit007
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lets be realistic about this ........no one wants to exercise.Zam_basic

lets be realistic about this .........no one wants tosing in front of people. Unless you are at a Karaoke bar.

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[QUOTE="Zam_basic"]lets be realistic about this ........no one wants to exercise.gromit007

lets be realistic about this .........no one wants tosing in front of people. Unless you are at a Karaoke bar.

?????????¿ w/ a group of friends, it's a lot of enjoyable to sing in a competition than to excercise. it gets pretty intense them karaoke contest. if you want to excercise, go outside and play basketball

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Guys, Wiifit WILL be wildly popular. But lets not think in the terms of hype that normal hardcore players think in, lets think like the general public.

Wiifit got a huge article on the front page of the business section of my newspaper during E3. Singstar, i hate to tell you guys, got nothing. Why? Because casuals aren't looking towards the PS3 for anything. Casuals will not shell out $500 for videogames, and even if they did, they wouldn't even know the difference between a PS3 and a 360. The only think they know are the DS and Wii.

If Singstar was coming to the Wii, then it might (and just might) have the remotest posibility of competing with Wiifit sales wise. However, its not. The fact that right now 50% of the people in the poll think singstar will sell better is just reaffirming the fact that lemmings are idiots and Cows are the fools who follow them.

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[QUOTE="gromit007"]

[QUOTE="Zam_basic"]lets be realistic about this ........no one wants to exercise.sPOON_f33dU

lets be realistic about this .........no one wants tosing in front of people. Unless you are at a Karaoke bar.

?????????¿ w/ a group of friends, it's a lot of enjoyable to sing in a competition than to excercise. it gets pretty intense them karaoke contest. if you want to excercise, go outside and play basketball

And if you want to sing with friends...do it in your car when you're together....going to a karaoke bar. WiiFit is NOT a 'party game'.

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[QUOTE="sPOON_f33dU"][QUOTE="gromit007"]

[QUOTE="Zam_basic"]lets be realistic about this ........no one wants to exercise.gromit007

lets be realistic about this .........no one wants tosing in front of people. Unless you are at a Karaoke bar.

?????????¿ w/ a group of friends, it's a lot of enjoyable to sing in a competition than to excercise. it gets pretty intense them karaoke contest. if you want to excercise, go outside and play basketball

And if you want to sing with friends...do it in your car when you're together....going to a karaoke bar. WiiFit is NOT a 'party game'.

i can't see casuals playing wiifit.

singstar is pretty fun imo.

maybe i'm an athlete and have a hard time seeing how you can get a work out by shifting weight on a scale

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#48 gromit007
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SingStar PS3 gets owned here....

http://amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/103-3138516-9311046?initialSearch=1&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=karaoke

All karaoke machines are far less than a PS3 + Singstar

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#49 Zam_basic
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if you want to exercise do it at a gym that may have some hot chicks there or some hot guys if that is your liking

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#50 Zam_basic
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the exercise games on the ps2 eye toy are better than that wii fit game ,because with eye toy you can box and block soccer balls while looking at your own image on the screen