SlyGamers: SONY To begin permanently Banning and to release FW 3.60 to combat PS

You're talking about the eboot.bin file well guess what you don't need that file to play backups. You just delete the eboot.bin file and then do something and the game works. Like I said Sony can't do a damn thing about it.

USS_Data

:lol:

So, according to what you just said, we don't need the main program (EBOOT.BIN) to play games. No, I'm not talking about EBOOT.BIN. I'm talking about game.dat, patch.dat, and the boot_history.dat's. Each of these record what you play for Sony.

SONY CAN ACTUALLY BAN YOUR PS3 or lock it because when i first created a PSN i had to agree with the user agreement things and at one of them it said: SONY WILL DO EVERYTHING TO PROTECT THEIR INTERESTS or something like that so you have to agree in order to play online and if you dont agree with it you cant play online, but you also agree to get banned IF you F with sonys interests (yeah i probably spelled interests or what ever wrong) NWA90s

Here is the legal precedent set within the mobile world:

Federal regulators lifted a cloud of uncertainty when they announced it was lawful to hack or "jailbreak" aniPhone, declaring Monday there was "no basis for copyright law to assist Apple in protecting its restrictive business model."

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The Cupertino-based computer maker also claimed that the license on the operating system forbids software modification.

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Monday's decision, which applies to all mobile smart phones and not just the iPad, does not require Apple or other handset makers to allow jailbreaking. Instead, it makes it lawful to circumvent controls designed to block jailbreaking.

Jailbroken iPhone Precedent

Now, that is a flexible situation, and Sony may be allowed to ban custom firmware, but that will absolutely be challenged after the Supreme Court sides with the rights of users to legally use custom firmware. For Sony to block VITAL FUNCTIONS of the hardware that individuals OWN because of a perfectly legal act(custom firmware), may or may not hold up in court. If I were to guess, it probably won't hold up. As far as Home Consoles go, online functionality is considered one of the major selling points of the console. Being that custom firmware will almost certainly be made legal, for Sony to lock out one of the primary functions of the system for doing something that is not even slightly illegal would be dangerous at best. Now, if Sony were to get reasonable evidence of piracy occurring, then there is nothing stopping bans. But for simply excercising your right to use your property.... Eh, that is a tricky situation.

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[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

I never said it wasn't illegal when used for piracy.... However, Other OS was removed, making any educational use of a personal PS3 impossible and ACCORDING TO THE SUPREME COURT, YOU own your property and have the right to do with it whatever you please unless those acts are illegal. That right supercedes the T&C. Apple and AT&T had to deal with this with iPhone jailbreaking. The Supreme Court reaffirmed the individual's right to use their PROPERTY.

It is just a matter of time before the Supreme Court expands that ruling to include home consoles and home entertainment electronics.

KingsMessenger

I just hope Sony win by technicality. It's destroying gaming full stop.

It isn't destroying gaming. It is hurting gaming. But EVERY industry has been forced to learn how to adapt. The music industry is just about as strong as it ever was now despite ubiquitous piracy. Home Video sales are better than ever despite rampant piracy. Ebooks have exploded in popularity despite appear AFTER piracy had become common(piracy of books in digital form happened almost before books were widely available in digital form).

The industry just needs to evolve. People are going to pirate. That is a FACT. They WILL manage to figure out how to do it. The fact that the industry has taken up a position of increasing hostility toward it rather than simply improving service to make piracy less desirable shows how out of touch the entire gaming industry is. Gaming SHOULD have been the first industry to push fully into the digital world simply because of the nature of the technology involved and the demographic of gamers. However, gaming has been taking longer than any other industry to push into digital distribution in any significant way.

Gaming needs to evolve. And the appeasement policy that gamers seem to have towards letting publishers and developers constantly drag their feet and make the experience more inconvenient for paying users while the illegal users constantly find ways around everything and end up with a better overall experience is unacceptable.

[QUOTE="NWA90s"]SONY CAN ACTUALLY BAN YOUR PS3 or lock it because when i first created a PSN i had to agree with the user agreement things and at one of them it said: SONY WILL DO EVERYTHING TO PROTECT THEIR INTERESTS or something like that so you have to agree in order to play online and if you dont agree with it you cant play online, but you also agree to get banned IF you F with sonys interests (yeah i probably spelled interests or what ever wrong) KingsMessenger

Here is the legal precedent set within the mobile world:

Federal regulators lifted a cloud of uncertainty when they announced it was lawful to hack or "jailbreak" aniPhone, declaring Monday there was "no basis for copyright law to assist Apple in protecting its restrictive business model."

...

The Cupertino-based computer maker also claimed that the license on the operating system forbids software modification.

...

Monday's decision, which applies to all mobile smart phones and not just the iPad, does not require Apple or other handset makers to allow jailbreaking. Instead, it makes it lawful to circumvent controls designed to block jailbreaking.

Jailbroken iPhone Precedent

Now, that is a flexible situation, and Sony may be allowed to ban custom firmware, but that will absolutely be challenged after the Supreme Court sides with the rights of users to legally use custom firmware. For Sony to block VITAL FUNCTIONS of the hardware that individuals OWN because of a perfectly legal act(custom firmware), may or may not hold up in court. If I were to guess, it probably won't hold up. As far as Home Consoles go, online functionality is considered one of the major selling points of the console. Being that custom firmware will almost certainly be made legal, for Sony to lock out one of the primary functions of the system for doing something that is not even slightly illegal would be dangerous at best. Now, if Sony were to get reasonable evidence of piracy occurring, then there is nothing stopping bans. But for simply excercising your right to use your property.... Eh, that is a tricky situation.

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

[QUOTE="NWA90s"]

Here is the legal precedent set within the mobile world:

[QUOTE="Jailbroken iPhone Precedent"]

Federal regulators lifted a cloud of uncertainty when they announced it was lawful to hack or "jailbreak" aniPhone, declaring Monday there was "no basis for copyright law to assist Apple in protecting its restrictive business model."

...

The Cupertino-based computer maker also claimed that the license on the operating system forbids software modification.

...

Monday's decision, which applies to all mobile smart phones and not just the iPad, does not require Apple or other handset makers to allow jailbreaking. Instead, it makes it lawful to circumvent controls designed to block jailbreaking.

savagetwinkie

Now, that is a flexible situation, and Sony may be allowed to ban custom firmware, but that will absolutely be challenged after the Supreme Court sides with the rights of users to legally use custom firmware. For Sony to block VITAL FUNCTIONS of the hardware that individuals OWN because of a perfectly legal act(custom firmware), may or may not hold up in court. If I were to guess, it probably won't hold up. As far as Home Consoles go, online functionality is considered one of the major selling points of the console. Being that custom firmware will almost certainly be made legal, for Sony to lock out one of the primary functions of the system for doing something that is not even slightly illegal would be dangerous at best. Now, if Sony were to get reasonable evidence of piracy occurring, then there is nothing stopping bans. But for simply excercising your right to use your property.... Eh, that is a tricky situation.