So am I the only person impressed with the Xbox One

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#1 always_explicit
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I feel that microsoft giving us an all in one entertainment box is a logical step forward, I feel if they simply delivered a powerful next gen games console people would be dissapointed that it didnt go the extra mile and deliver a more wholesome immersive experience. They are not reinventing the wheel here, what they do appear to be doing is utilising all the features that currently exist in someones living room and intergrating them to create a seamless and useful product. What on earth is the downside to switching seamlessly from television to gaming and using simple hand gestures and voice commands to navigate menu's quickly and efficiently.

Most of the complaints seem to be from the "hardcore gamers" that are angry because microsoft have not just created an awesome standalone games console, any company that did just that would be doomed to fail in todays competitive market. The hardcore gamers among us probably account for such a minimal proportion of the overall market that catering a product solely for them would be business suicide. The thing isnt even released yet and so many people are quick to dismiss it, its clearly going to be a great peice of kit microsoft would not release a sub par product in the current economic climate and I am pretty sure the RROD scandal has taught them a lesson or two about getting things right from release.

The people unhappy about the kinnect always being on have little to worry about in terms of privacy. The data protection act and numerous other common legislation mean that any data collected regarding your personal information requires your express permission to collect it. if its a problem for you read the terms and conditions and opt out, much like you can choose to do with applications downloaded from android marketplace on mobile devices. The idea that the kinnect will be listening to your conversations and watching your every move to collect data for marketing purposes are just absurd not to mention the legality issues. Microsoft are a company that want to sell you products, they have more than enough information gathered by monitoring the type of games you buy and movies you watch...and I have no problem with them doing this providing they give something back via personalised recommendations.

Not to mention the fact we have only been drip fed a few details, maybe wait for E3 before totally dismissing what I beleive is going to be a really fuctional piece of hardware, and a great console to boot.

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#2 SolidTy
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I am glad you are impressed.

I didn't read your OP, all I needed to know was that you are impressed after learning about the anti consumer DRM policies being forced on a rather neat Xbox. The forced bundled Kinect. The used games policy. The online requirement. The movie and television focus, or rather distraction.

I saw the title, so I was good.

I have the money to buy two Xbones this holiday season assuming each are $500. E3 will decide if I buy any at all.

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#3 Sagem28
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Orion loves it as well !

He should be here shortly.

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#4 BPoole96
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Yes, you're the only person in the world impressed by it. Congrats.
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#5 always_explicit
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Well if you can afford two xboxs perhaps the uproar regarding second hand games shouldnt effect you quite so badly then moneybags.

It just seems ridiculous to me that innovation is being totally slated on these forums, all you really want is an Xbox 360 with better graphics, its laughable.

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#6 slipknot0129
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I was impressed too. The Kinect support and everything looks like a huge step forward. I like how it has 3 os's and you can switch between tv and games instantly. Its like an evolved Xbox 360 that has improved just on everything. I want to try some Kinect games like Dance Central. I imagine there will be some more awesome Kinect games I will like. 

The dashboard looked so much better too. 

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#7 KungfuKitten
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I was pretty impressed how badly they f'd it up.

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#8 Sushiglutton
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The best thing imo is that kinect is now bundled with the system. Kinect is the input device with the most potential to do meaningful and positive changes to how games are played. Since devs now know the gamer will have access to it they can start innovating. Cool to see what they come up with. Kinect 2.0 is coming to PC next year btw. Would love to see games combining Kincet with Oculus Rift.
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#9 SolidTy
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Well if you can afford two xboxs perhaps the uproar regarding second hand games shouldnt effect you quite so badly then moneybags.

It just seems ridiculous to me that innovation is being totally slated on these forums, all you really want is an Xbox 360 with better graphics, its laughable.

always_explicit

I'm a collector. This machine will remove that aspect and value from my games.

It's also a basic principle and has nothing to do with money.

As far as money is concerned, we all have had since 2005 360 launch to put a little away each year for the successor. Saving is not that hard if people have tight budgets.

I do want to point out that many critics including myself, never said they wanted a 360 with better graphics, the Xbone looks neat in some respects. It's the anti consumer policies that are the problem. The machine itself is not a problem.

The company ran by the suits is an issue. The creative visionaries behind the Xbox and 360 are not there. The drive and focus towards $400 NFL deal, and an undisclosed Steven Spielberg deal, is the problem. 

I actually have the most problems with the anti consumer policies being forced on this machine, but I'm glad you are stoked.IT seems the koolaid is going to affect individuals.

You seem to think that innovation automatically comes with anti consumer policies but lo and behold, they are in fact, not one and the same.

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#10 always_explicit
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logical and reasoned argument well presented on a forum of discussion....oh no wait, 

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#11 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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It's good at what it does. Except what it does is more TV focused than games focused. And there are very questionable practices in place on the gaming end

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#12 DefconRave
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I dunno, when I buy a GAME console I expect it to play GAMES not swtich to tv or watch the stupid nfl. Also without the stupid uneeded tv/movie options I bet a dedicated gaming device would be faster and cheaper.
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#13 deactivated-609eda8a7edd0
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I was impressed with tech without a doubt, my problem is to do with the consoles clear focus. I already have plenty of ways to watch TV, surf the internet and use Skype, I don't need my console to do that as well. The idea of the Xbox One has come like three years to late in my eyes and is nothing more than a gimmick fest with a fee attached to it.
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#14 lamprey263
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so far console features are really good, but we've yet to see games, still waiting on that, I wasn't expecting much during reveal since it was said it was console feature oriented and not game oriented, that would wait until E3 all always on, always online, not always on/online, used games, no used games, game fees and online requirements, lots of contradictory info floating around I'm waiting on a final word
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I dunno, when I buy a GAME console I expect it to play GAMES not swtich to tv or watch the stupid nfl. DefconRave
It's not meant to be a strict video game console. I figured that was painfully obvious.
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#16 always_explicit
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Well I would totally agree the device seems more television focused at the moment and I agree they have shown us no where near enough information regarding the X1 as a games console...but it will come at E3 i hope.

 And SolidTy as for having problems with a "company run by suits" what planet are you living on. How does this differ from any major company???

 

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[QUOTE="DefconRave"]I dunno, when I buy a GAME console I expect it to play GAMES not swtich to tv or watch the stupid nfl. Also without the stupid uneeded tv/movie options I bet a dedicated gaming device would be faster and cheaper.

you sound like every other automaton out there saying the same thing, the reveal was console feature oriented, the game part was supposed to wait until E3
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#18 SecretPolice
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Firstly, I'm not so sure how it will all work out, secondly, nope, I'm impressed with the ummm, the seemingly newness of it all and think at this point it has the most potential to excite me compared to the other two consoles but as I said, Not sure and E3 will shed some light plus I'll need to see how this all pans out so perhaps by this time next year a clearer picture will emerge.

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#19 Jamani
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It's good at what it does. Except what it does is more TV focused than games focused. And there are very questionable practices in place on the gaming end

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You haven't even seen the games yet -___-
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if your impressed with the xbone n will buy the xbone and pay their sub, your not a real gamer and you support m$ killing gaming period

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Well if you can afford two xboxs perhaps the uproar regarding second hand games shouldnt effect you quite so badly then moneybags.

It just seems ridiculous to me that innovation is being totally slated on these forums, all you really want is an Xbox 360 with better graphics, its laughable.

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The problem here is with the price of smart tvs with cameras/voice activation are already coming down in price alot. Samsung ones especially. You can already do most of those new features..... Its a GAMING CONSOLE..... I can bloody flip from Game to TV just by using a remote control ...... This "innovation" is essentially putting Windows 8 on a console .... .... the snap feature will NOT be good for watching and playing at the same time .... it works for monitors because you are up close. And the nyou need to buy ANOTHER addon to get the TV features, in which we all know will be wildly limited outside of the US which funnily enough ALOT OF US ARE NOT FROM THERE. PS4 will offer more indie titles, and more MMOs ect...... (FFXIV and Planetside 2 already confirmed) because their PSN rules are not ridiculously strict to the point where games are limited. PSN+ will offer free games now and then. a GPU that is a 3rd stronger and RAM that is twice the clock speed. Far bigger first party studio.... imagine Little Big Planet 3 with 7 GB RAM to use? the creators potential will be INSANE. So yea, you can say this is innovation if you want.... but understand that most of these features are available to the consumor on a damn TV already.... let alone when smart TVs become the norm. Hell im moving in with the missus in September .... going to get a £400 37' Samsung smart TV ... which pretty much does all of that. so why would I buy an XBOX ONE over a PS4 knowing that it is VERY VERY likely that the PS4 will have alot more games?
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#22 always_explicit
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You say you expect it to play games like it has a mind of its own. It doesn't, its user controlled mate, if there are additional features you feel are useless then DONT use them, but i think its painfully obvious the X1 is still a games console. If someone offered me in one hand...an updated games console for this generation. Then in the other....an updated games console with the ability to do all the things the X1 claims to do.....I would choose the X1 all day long. Why would you dismiss the option of additional features based solely on the principal that you MIGHT not use them???
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Well I would totally agree the device seems more television focused at the moment and I agree they have shown us no where near enough information regarding the X1 as a games console...but it will come at E3 i hope.

 And SolidTy as for having problems with a "company run by suits" what planet are you living on. How does this differ from any major company???

 

always_explicit

Many companies have visionaries behind a product that argue with Suits and the results can be amazing. History documents many such inventions we take for granted today. The visionaries that create, the companies that profit. The Xbox founders are gone. The suits are now running the show full throttle without any of that unnessary creative static that they used to deal with. That yin and yang balance seemed very beneficial to the Xbox and early 360 years, compared to the later 360 years.

Regardless, my main beef with the XBone right now, my concern is the anti consumer measures. I don't hate the device, I have the money and planned to buy one for years. I bought two 360's back in 2005 for LAN. I pictured doing the same thing with XBone. However, I didn't see titles I would LAN. I saw things I wouldn't use.

Despite that, my beef is the anti consumer polices. They fix that, I'm golden.

That TV stuff btw, that requires an add on device, it's unpriced, but it probably would run what the Wifi piece was in 2005, an additional $100 if I had to guess.

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Well I would totally agree the device seems more television focused at the moment and I agree they have shown us no where near enough information regarding the X1 as a games console...but it will come at E3 i hope.

 And SolidTy as for having problems with a "company run by suits" what planet are you living on. How does this differ from any major company???

 

always_explicit
Do you REALLY need that question asked? Microsoft's entire companies direction has shifted in recent years.... to one that most consumors are not liking. The original XBOX team is gone..... and the passion for it, most of the higher ups clearly don't even play games.
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

It's good at what it does. Except what it does is more TV focused than games focused. And there are very questionable practices in place on the gaming end

Jamani

You haven't even seen the games yet -___-

was about to post that, microsoft said that it would be more about the hardware than the games at that show.

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#26 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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I don't believe you're impressed with it, you're just a fanboy, grow up

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[QUOTE="always_explicit"]You say you expect it to play games like it has a mind of its own. It doesn't, its user controlled mate, if there are additional features you feel are useless then DONT use them, but i think its painfully obvious the X1 is still a games console. If someone offered me in one hand...an updated games console for this generation. Then in the other....an updated games console with the ability to do all the things the X1 claims to do.....I would choose the X1 all day long. Why would you dismiss the option of additional features based solely on the principal that you MIGHT not use them???

Are you totally ignoring the fact that from a developer standpoint things look grim for the X1? its not just consumors complaining about this machine. Why would I by a dedicated games console over a jack-of-all trades? because I want a game machine that has more games, better games, more indie games and MMOs ..... and a much better 1st party list. Why is that NOT plainly obvious to you. Next you will be telling me I should buy a smart-fridge over a bigger/better conventional fridge because I can skype or watch friggin TV on it.
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#28 TrapJak17
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As an entertainment device, it seems promising. But as a gaming device, it's severely discouraging.
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[QUOTE="Jamani"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

It's good at what it does. Except what it does is more TV focused than games focused. And there are very questionable practices in place on the gaming end

PcGamingRig

You haven't even seen the games yet -___-

was about to post that, microsoft said that it would be more about the hardware than the games at that show.

I don't care about the games now TBH because of all the steps they're trying to put in the way between me and playing those games

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#30 always_explicit
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if your impressed with the xbone n will buy the xbone and pay their sub, your not a real gamer and you support m$ killing gaming period

_SWAG_
Again another poorly reasoned illogical argument. I play games frequently, I am on an internet forum discussing a games console. The games industry will exist with or without Microsoft, Nintendo, Sony.... nothing is killing the industry the industry is and always will be fine. Even if Microsoft is killing the game industry... stupidity is killing the planet and you have no issues with saying stupid things.
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#31 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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I don't believe you're impressed with it, you're just a fanboy, grow up

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:lol: The irony is too much

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A better gaming machine, or a gaming machine that I have to say "XBOX GO TV" instead of just pressing the TV button on my remote" So plain lazyness for a minor conveniance feature over a gaming machine with more quality games? Please....
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#33 Mario1331
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the only thing impressive was the controller. and that got shut down after it was announced you need 4AA batteries for it

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Nice essay. Console sucks. I'm not even disappointed at the lack of games at the reveal, because I *KNEW* it would be an all in one TV box that focused on Kinect and lacked games. That was the hype leading into the event. No, I'm disappointed because it's not even a good "all in one box". It cannot replace digital TV, cable boxes, or satellite boxes. You still need those "in addition", and that's if you want to have your XBOX on 100% of the time while you watch TV. There is no coaxial input or tuner capabilities (I simply cannot fathom this out of a so-called "all in one" box). Basically it does nothing except "pass through" the signal and display your TV channels in a window. Nothing you can't do right now with a PC, FREE software, and digital tuner.
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the only thing impressive was the controller. and that got shut down after it was announced you need 4AA batteries for it

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Really??? you need 4AA batteries!? what the hell? why?
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#36 always_explicit
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I don't believe you're impressed with it, you're just a fanboy, grow up

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I am grown up enough to see the irony in you telling me to grow up after posting something like that.
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the only thing impressive was the controller. and that got shut down after it was announced you need 4AA batteries for it

Mario1331

...4 batteries? The hell does it need 4 for?

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#38 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

the only thing impressive was the controller. and that got shut down after it was announced you need 4AA batteries for it

Legendaryscmt

...4 batteries? The hell does it need 4 for?

Business partners.

Battery company exclusive deal. :lol:

I knew it used AA batteries, but I thought it was just two. The four is new to me.

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#39 l34052
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

the only thing impressive was the controller. and that got shut down after it was announced you need 4AA batteries for it

Legendaryscmt

...4 batteries? The hell does it need 4 for?

Its all so ms can continue fleecing the public with sales of rechargable battery packs like the 360 rather than an actual need of 4 batteries.

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#40 coasterguy65
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I think it has a lot of potential. Unfortunately that potential is ruined by all the DRM crap they are trying to pull. Now if they listen to the consumer backlash, and remove the used game fee I'll probably pick one up. Depending on what games they announce of course. 

They also seriously need to reconsider the having to check in with the server every 24 hours crap. While that doesn't really bother me, I expect it will bother many people who don't have a good internet connection. It really limits the Nextbox...er...Xbox One's appeal world wide.

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#41 always_explicit
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[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]Nice essay. Console sucks. I'm not even disappointed at the lack of games at the reveal, because I *KNEW* it would be an all in one TV box that focused on Kinect and lacked games. That was the hype leading into the event. No, I'm disappointed because it's not even a good "all in one box". It cannot replace digital TV, cable boxes, or satellite boxes. You still need those "in addition", and that's if you want to have your XBOX on 100% of the time while you watch TV. There is no coaxial input or tuner capabilities (I simply cannot fathom this out of a so-called "all in one" box). Basically it does nothing except "pass through" the signal and display your TV channels in a window. Nothing you can't do right now with a PC, FREE software, and digital tuner.

Your Kinnect is always on so no you wouldn't need to have the box running to use those features. How can you be disappointed at the lack of games when the console isnt even released yet. Also I am not defending their decision to make an all in one box down to the ground, what I am saying is that is a logical step for a console to take into the next generation. I do not think simply releasing an updated console with better graphics would have been enough to secure the top spot in the console market,
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#42 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

the only thing impressive was the controller. and that got shut down after it was announced you need 4AA batteries for it

MBirdy88

Really??? you need 4AA batteries!? what the hell? why?

i honestly dont know

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[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

the only thing impressive was the controller. and that got shut down after it was announced you need 4AA batteries for it

l34052

...4 batteries? The hell does it need 4 for?

Its all so ms can continue fleecing the public with sales of rechargable battery packs like the 360 rather than an actual need of 4 batteries.

First year, 2006, I used those packs but since I've went to rechargeable AA's and it been dandy but this 4 AA's is news to me. :o

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#44 Mario1331
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the only thing impressive was the controller. and that got shut down after it was announced you need 4AA batteries for it

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...4 batteries? The hell does it need 4 for?

idk man honestly, when i checked the news it said you need 4AA batteries.

maybe it was a mistake and it is 2, but thats to my best knowledge sorry

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#45 Mario1331
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EDIT: its two not four :P. so its not that bad and each controller bought will come with two rechargeable batteries with it.

So fact remain the best thing about it is the controller lol

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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]A better gaming machine, or a gaming machine that I have to say "XBOX GO TV" instead of just pressing the TV button on my remote" So plain lazyness for a minor conveniance feature over a gaming machine with more quality games? Please....

Where are these quality games on alternative consoles, please educate me if I am missing something but there is this general assumption that the X1 will have no decent games and I am unsure why or how people have reached this conclusion???
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#47 always_explicit
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The controller is sexy....positively orgasmic in comparison to the Wii U anyway lol

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[QUOTE="always_explicit"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"]A better gaming machine, or a gaming machine that I have to say "XBOX GO TV" instead of just pressing the TV button on my remote" So plain lazyness for a minor conveniance feature over a gaming machine with more quality games? Please....

Where are these quality games on alternative consoles, please educate me if I am missing something but there is this general assumption that the X1 will have no decent games and I am unsure why or how people have reached this conclusion???

I've already given you reasons why in previous posts..... do you have selective reading? Sony First Party. Indie Developers hate Xbox LIVE now, and like PS4/Wii-U/Steam More powerful console. PSN open architecture allows for genres that XBOX LIVE doesn't (E.G MMOs). And basically look a the last 4 years? But yes, im expecting a "This still is proven" generic response from you. When its a very valid theory. just because we don't know for certain doesn't mean you can't come to a logical conclusion based on current/past events. MS' whole attitude is "How many different ways can we get money out of the Xbox" Sony's was "How many ways can we get money out of the Playstation by Focusing on Gamers." this is not made up, this is the current direction of both. Microsoft forgot that making money through quality products that the user NEEDed, not what THEY THINK THEY NEEDED long ago .... Bill Gates should of stayed, Ballmer is waste. Windows Phone, Windows 8, XBOX ONE ... all products that are made around Microsoft not the consumor. its that simple.
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I'm impressed by the amount of idiots that will take a negative news story out of context and create a slippery slope from it. Don't worry though these same people will continue to worship Kaz while Sony is adopting similar business practices....

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[QUOTE="always_explicit"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"]A better gaming machine, or a gaming machine that I have to say "XBOX GO TV" instead of just pressing the TV button on my remote" So plain lazyness for a minor conveniance feature over a gaming machine with more quality games? Please....MBirdy88
Where are these quality games on alternative consoles, please educate me if I am missing something but there is this general assumption that the X1 will have no decent games and I am unsure why or how people have reached this conclusion???

I've already given you reasons why in previous posts..... do you have selective reading? Sony First Party. Indie Developers hate Xbox LIVE now, and like PS4/Wii-U/Steam More powerful console. PSN open architecture allows for genres that XBOX LIVE doesn't (E.G MMOs). And basically look a the last 4 years? But yes, im expecting a "This still is proven" generic response from you. When its a very valid theory. just because we don't know for certain doesn't mean you can't come to a logical conclusion based on current/past events. MS' whole attitude is "How many different ways can we get money out of the Xbox" Sony's was "How many ways can we get money out of the Playstation by Focusing on Gamers." this is not made up, this is the current direction of both. Microsoft forgot that making money through quality products that the user NEEDed, not what THEY THINK THEY NEEDED long ago .... Bill Gates should of stayed, Ballmer is waste. Windows Phone, Windows 8, XBOX ONE ... all products that are made around Microsoft not the consumor. its that simple.

if you honestly believe that about Sony, I'm sure they'll have no problems getting you to drink the almond flavored Kool-Aid. They'll do the same exact thing as soon as they can afford to....