I've already given you reasons why in previous posts..... do you have selective reading? Sony First Party. Indie Developers hate Xbox LIVE now, and like PS4/Wii-U/Steam More powerful console. PSN open architecture allows for genres that XBOX LIVE doesn't (E.G MMOs). And basically look a the last 4 years? But yes, im expecting a "This still is proven" generic response from you. When its a very valid theory. just because we don't know for certain doesn't mean you can't come to a logical conclusion based on current/past events. MS' whole attitude is "How many different ways can we get money out of the Xbox" Sony's was "How many ways can we get money out of the Playstation by Focusing on Gamers." this is not made up, this is the current direction of both. Microsoft forgot that making money through quality products that the user NEEDed, not what THEY THINK THEY NEEDED long ago .... Bill Gates should of stayed, Ballmer is waste. Windows Phone, Windows 8, XBOX ONE ... all products that are made around Microsoft not the consumor. its that simple. if you honestly believe that about Sony, I'm sure they'll have no problems getting you to drink the almond flavored Kool-Aid. They'll do the same exact thing as soon as they can afford to.... What are you even referring to? btw your sig is stupid as hell. Your sig is comparing paying for an online service to a free one with no ads to a payed one with ads. not that I care either way, but at least get your facts straight when trying to mock others... your reubutal to them is ironically kiddy level and completely missing the point. I honestly believe sony are focusing more on games.... its plain as daylight... I never said they are any less out-for-money than microsoft, what I said was their method is to focus on gamers, which FOR US GAMERS will result in better products, more games ... Meanwhile, Microsoft waste 400 million dollars on Fantasy Football crap that will only be available in the US, expect us to pay for the extended box to do so and have overall less games, just like the second half of this generation. How you can spin that any other way is beyond rational.[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="always_explicit"] Where are these quality games on alternative consoles, please educate me if I am missing something but there is this general assumption that the X1 will have no decent games and I am unsure why or how people have reached this conclusion???Bruce_Benzing
So am I the only person impressed with the Xbox One
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Well that would be great but I dont think it is haha
[QUOTE="Bruce_Benzing"]if you honestly believe that about Sony, I'm sure they'll have no problems getting you to drink the almond flavored Kool-Aid. They'll do the same exact thing as soon as they can afford to.... What are you even referring to? btw your sig is stupid as hell. Your sig is comparing paying for an online service to a free one with no ads to a payed one with ads. not that I care either way, but at least get your facts straight when trying to mock others... your reubutal to them is ironically kiddy level and completely missing the point. I honestly believe sony are focusing more on games.... its plain as daylight... I never said they are any less out-for-money than microsoft, what I said was their method is to focus on gamers, which FOR US GAMERS will result in better products, more games ... Meanwhile, Microsoft waste 400 million dollars on Fantasy Football crap that will only be available in the US, expect us to pay for the extended box to do so and have overall less games, just like the second half of this generation. How you can spin that any other way is beyond rational. So disrupting a game by placing an ad is better then putting the ad on the dashboard of an online service? If Sony has been so adament about being there for the gamer, then why did their gaming division take a big hit in the first place? Sony is just telling you what you want to hear, they don't care about anyone else. You can rest assured that they will adopt similar policies as sson as they realize they can profit from it.[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] I've already given you reasons why in previous posts..... do you have selective reading? Sony First Party. Indie Developers hate Xbox LIVE now, and like PS4/Wii-U/Steam More powerful console. PSN open architecture allows for genres that XBOX LIVE doesn't (E.G MMOs). And basically look a the last 4 years? But yes, im expecting a "This still is proven" generic response from you. When its a very valid theory. just because we don't know for certain doesn't mean you can't come to a logical conclusion based on current/past events. MS' whole attitude is "How many different ways can we get money out of the Xbox" Sony's was "How many ways can we get money out of the Playstation by Focusing on Gamers." this is not made up, this is the current direction of both. Microsoft forgot that making money through quality products that the user NEEDed, not what THEY THINK THEY NEEDED long ago .... Bill Gates should of stayed, Ballmer is waste. Windows Phone, Windows 8, XBOX ONE ... all products that are made around Microsoft not the consumor. its that simple.MBirdy88
I feel that microsoft giving us an all in one entertainment box is a logical step forward, I feel if they simply delivered a powerful next gen games console people would be dissapointed that it didnt go the extra mile and deliver a more wholesome immersive experience. They are not reinventing the wheel here, what they do appear to be doing is utilising all the features that currently exist in someones living room and intergrating them to create a seamless and useful product. What on earth is the downside to switching seamlessly from television to gaming and using simple hand gestures and voice commands to navigate menu's quickly and efficiently.
Most of the complaints seem to be from the "hardcore gamers" that are angry because microsoft have not just created an awesome standalone games console, any company that did just that would be doomed to fail in todays competitive market. The hardcore gamers among us probably account for such a minimal proportion of the overall market that catering a product solely for them would be business suicide. The thing isnt even released yet and so many people are quick to dismiss it, its clearly going to be a great peice of kit microsoft would not release a sub par product in the current economic climate and I am pretty sure the RROD scandal has taught them a lesson or two about getting things right from release.
The people unhappy about the kinnect always being on have little to worry about in terms of privacy. The data protection act and numerous other common legislation mean that any data collected regarding your personal information requires your express permission to collect it. if its a problem for you read the terms and conditions and opt out, much like you can choose to do with applications downloaded from android marketplace on mobile devices. The idea that the kinnect will be listening to your conversations and watching your every move to collect data for marketing purposes are just absurd not to mention the legality issues. Microsoft are a company that want to sell you products, they have more than enough information gathered by monitoring the type of games you buy and movies you watch...and I have no problem with them doing this providing they give something back via personalised recommendations.
Not to mention the fact we have only been drip fed a few details, maybe wait for E3 before totally dismissing what I beleive is going to be a really fuctional piece of hardware, and a great console to boot.
always_explicit
You're not. It's just that cows are being idiots and flooding the forum acting as if "everyone hates the XBox One".
More impressive is your constant denial of MS crappy policies,let me tell you this i have never been the biggest fan of the xbox brand ever,but at least i saw value on the first xbox and xbox 360 even more,on the xbox one there is no value for me what so ever.I'm impressed by the amount of idiots that will take a negative news story out of context and create a slippery slope from it. Don't worry though these same people will continue to worship Kaz while Sony is adopting similar business practices....
Bruce_Benzing
[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]Nice essay. Console sucks. I'm not even disappointed at the lack of games at the reveal, because I *KNEW* it would be an all in one TV box that focused on Kinect and lacked games. That was the hype leading into the event. No, I'm disappointed because it's not even a good "all in one box". It cannot replace digital TV, cable boxes, or satellite boxes. You still need those "in addition", and that's if you want to have your XBOX on 100% of the time while you watch TV. There is no coaxial input or tuner capabilities (I simply cannot fathom this out of a so-called "all in one" box). Basically it does nothing except "pass through" the signal and display your TV channels in a window. Nothing you can't do right now with a PC, FREE software, and digital tuner. always_explicitYour Kinnect is always on so no you wouldn't need to have the box running to use those features. How can you be disappointed at the lack of games when the console isnt even released yet. Also I am not defending their decision to make an all in one box down to the ground, what I am saying is that is a logical step for a console to take into the next generation. I do not think simply releasing an updated console with better graphics would have been enough to secure the top spot in the console market,
What do you mean the "Kinect is always on", in order to have the XBOX UI you need more than just the Kinect to be on, you need the XBOX to be on as well. Therefore in order to watch TV through the XBOX, you would need to have the XBOX powered up 100% of the time. Which is something I have ZERO desire in.
I already have everything routed through AV receiver. I think just about ANYBODY that has a home theater setup, where the home theater already handles the inputs/HDMI switching, is going to look at these TV features of the XBOX and shrug their shoulders.
Don't get me wrong, there are some things that look like good ideas in terms of software. But the basic concept of having to route your cable box THROUGH the XBOX is a non-starter for alot of people, especially people that are into AV/home theater and are already situated there. It is basically adding an additional layer, the TOTAL OPPOSITE of it being the "one" box that it's advertised to be.
Correctamundo.Orion loves it as well !
He should be here shortly.
Sagem28
[QUOTE="DefconRave"]I dunno, when I buy a GAME console I expect it to play GAMES not swtich to tv or watch the stupid nfl. drinkerofjuiceIt's not meant to be a strict video game console. I figured that was painfully obvious. Then why spend a lot of money on something that does what you already do on other devices. Oh wait I can access IE using an xbox controller how convenient
[QUOTE="Bruce_Benzing"]More impressive is your constant denial of MS crappy policies,let me tell you this i have never been the biggest fan of the xbox brand ever,but at least i saw value on the first xbox and xbox 360 even more,on the xbox one there is no value for me what so ever.[/QUOTE]I'm impressed by the amount of idiots that will take a negative news story out of context and create a slippery slope from it. Don't worry though these same people will continue to worship Kaz while Sony is adopting similar business practices....
tormentos
You are so full of CRAP! All you do is bash the 360. Every second you are on this board.
Don't make sh*t up.
[QUOTE="Bruce_Benzing"]More impressive is your constant denial of MS crappy policies,let me tell you this i have never been the biggest fan of the xbox brand ever,but at least i saw value on the first xbox and xbox 360 even more,on the xbox one there is no value for me what so ever. I would say almost as impressive as the lengths you try to go combing every Internet forum to try to prove you're continued anti-MS bias (you're not fooling anybody) but actually that's just pathetic.I'm impressed by the amount of idiots that will take a negative news story out of context and create a slippery slope from it. Don't worry though these same people will continue to worship Kaz while Sony is adopting similar business practices....
tormentos
I just know I am not getting one. If I want to watch TV, I will just turn my TV on. I don't need no extra device to do that.AmazonTreeBoaBut you wont need an EXTRA device thats the point. If your current setup consists of a television and a satellite reciever of some description. You will be adding the X1 which is a games console and controller for alternating between the internet television and gaming, if you add the PS4 your getting a games console....why not get the product that offers more features just because your not sure if your going to use them, Less is not more.....more is more.
Yeah, buying The One for gaming sounds like people who buy PC's for gaming :lol: what morons, what with all that extra curricular shat it does, Excel, Word and the like, those suka's really stink for gaming don't they? If someone wants to play the best games they need to by a console that is built specifically for gaming and nothin else :twisted:
Eh, why ask, we all know the answer. :P
I am not calling anyone a moron for buying the hardware that suits their needs be it PC Xbox or playstation. When it comes to consoles however,,,,which is what this thread is concerning. The differences in terms of power "under the hood" are so minimal it will not be the make or break factor for either console. What I am saying is if Sony wanted to build a console Specifically for gaming....they really dropped the ball, because it isnt technologically superior enough to the X1 to seperate it in direct competition. The X1 is offering an equal gaming experience to the PS4 with extra features. Thats why as it stands I will be getting the X1...I just dont like PC gaming.Yeah, buying The One for gaming sounds like people who buy PC's for gaming :lol: what morons, what with all that extra curricular shat it does, Excel, Word and the like, those suka's really stink for gaming don't they? If someone wants to play the best games they need to by a console that is built specifically for gaming and nothin else :twisted:
Eh, why ask, we all know the answer. :P
SecretPolice
[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]I am not calling anyone a moron for buying the hardware that suits their needs be it PC Xbox or playstation. When it comes to consoles however,,,,which is what this thread is concerning. The differences in terms of power "under the hood" are so minimal it will not be the make or break factor for either console. What I am saying is if Sony wanted to build a console Specifically for gaming....they really dropped the ball, because it isnt technologically superior enough to the X1 to seperate it in direct competition. The X1 is offering an equal gaming experience to the PS4 with extra features. Thats why as it stands I will be getting the X1...I just dont like PC gaming.What I said there was all tongue in cheek dripping with sarcasm and hope you realize that. :PYeah, buying The One for gaming sounds like people who buy PC's for gaming :lol: what morons, what with all that extra curricular shat it does, Excel, Word and the like, those suka's really stink for gaming don't they? If someone wants to play the best games they need to by a console that is built specifically for gaming and nothin else :twisted:
Eh, why ask, we all know the answer. :P
always_explicit
More likely a stock holder/MS employee desperate to duke people into buying MS's rip-off product to increase his own profits. Yeah because the numbers of people I could "convince" to buy an X1 on this one internet forum I have posted in are going to be significant enough to boost the profits of Microsoft. Because microsoft are so worried about their profit margin...Jesus... that is definitely.... bar none the most stupid post I have ever come across...well done sir.[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
I don't believe you're impressed with it, you're just a fanboy, grow up
casharmy
So am I the only person impressed with the Xbox Onealways_explicitNo, you're just one of a few. MS is really screwing up lately. Windows Phone 8 was a massive fail (again) and Windows 8 has had a dismal launch as well. Ballmer needs to GO before he turns MS into another forgotten wash-up like My Space
[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]Nice essay. Console sucks. I'm not even disappointed at the lack of games at the reveal, because I *KNEW* it would be an all in one TV box that focused on Kinect and lacked games. That was the hype leading into the event. No, I'm disappointed because it's not even a good "all in one box". It cannot replace digital TV, cable boxes, or satellite boxes. You still need those "in addition", and that's if you want to have your XBOX on 100% of the time while you watch TV. There is no coaxial input or tuner capabilities (I simply cannot fathom this out of a so-called "all in one" box). Basically it does nothing except "pass through" the signal and display your TV channels in a window. Nothing you can't do right now with a PC, FREE software, and digital tuner. always_explicitYour Kinnect is always on so no you wouldn't need to have the box running to use those features. How can you be disappointed at the lack of games when the console isnt even released yet. Also I am not defending their decision to make an all in one box down to the ground, what I am saying is that is a logical step for a console to take into the next generation. I do not think simply releasing an updated console with better graphics would have been enough to secure the top spot in the console market,see...that right there. You are exposing yourself. You said YOU were impressed, NOW you are taking about the top spot in the console market. GTFO, you aren't a gamer impressed with MS's console you are someone interested in profits that can come from all the consumer r@ping practices this can make because you probably have something invested in it.
You are like the third person I have seen come on where with these suspicious essays trying to convince people to be "ok" with everything MS is doing, ignore our own best interest and buy it despte ourselves. NOT happenig.
I am not calling anyone a moron for buying the hardware that suits their needs be it PC Xbox or playstation. When it comes to consoles however,,,,which is what this thread is concerning. The differences in terms of power "under the hood" are so minimal it will not be the make or break factor for either console. What I am saying is if Sony wanted to build a console Specifically for gaming....they really dropped the ball, because it isnt technologically superior enough to the X1 to seperate it in direct competition. The X1 is offering an equal gaming experience to the PS4 with extra features. Thats why as it stands I will be getting the X1...I just dont like PC gaming.What I said there was all tongue in cheek dripping with sarcasm and hope you realize that. :P Haha...slightly embarrassed I didnt realise that. So used to trying to provide a decent argument to people incapable of reason I suffered a momentary sense of humour lapse I think. These forums do that to a man.[QUOTE="always_explicit"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]
Yeah, buying The One for gaming sounds like people who buy PC's for gaming :lol: what morons, what with all that extra curricular shat it does, Excel, Word and the like, those suka's really stink for gaming don't they? If someone wants to play the best games they need to by a console that is built specifically for gaming and nothin else :twisted:
Eh, why ask, we all know the answer. :P
SecretPolice
[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]What I said there was all tongue in cheek dripping with sarcasm and hope you realize that. :P Haha...slightly embarrassed I didnt realise that. So used to trying to provide a decent argument to people incapable of reason I suffered a momentary sense of humour lapse I think. These forums do that to a man. :) i hear ya mah friend, sometimes I forget to check the 4 AA batteries in my sarcasm detector as well. :P[QUOTE="always_explicit"] I am not calling anyone a moron for buying the hardware that suits their needs be it PC Xbox or playstation. When it comes to consoles however,,,,which is what this thread is concerning. The differences in terms of power "under the hood" are so minimal it will not be the make or break factor for either console. What I am saying is if Sony wanted to build a console Specifically for gaming....they really dropped the ball, because it isnt technologically superior enough to the X1 to seperate it in direct competition. The X1 is offering an equal gaming experience to the PS4 with extra features. Thats why as it stands I will be getting the X1...I just dont like PC gaming.always_explicit
I'm very impressd as well. I am greatrly against the used game ban/fees issue and want clairity that it is completely gone or different than most of us think it is. Outside of that I want a reasonable price for the Xbox One and a great E3 showing of games. I don't mind the entertainment/tv features or Kinect because since the system is getting 85% of all the PS4 games, and 15 of its own exclusives including eventually Halo 5 and Gears 4, as a core gamer I will have the Elder Scrolls, Mass Effects, GTA's and all the rest. So MS needs to just give us a price and leave the used game market the way it was, IMHO. But tech wise and game wise I am very much looking forward to Xbox One. Six months to launch and E3 upcoming will tell the tale.I feel that microsoft giving us an all in one entertainment box is a logical step forward, I feel if they simply delivered a powerful next gen games console people would be dissapointed that it didnt go the extra mile and deliver a more wholesome immersive experience. They are not reinventing the wheel here, what they do appear to be doing is utilising all the features that currently exist in someones living room and intergrating them to create a seamless and useful product. What on earth is the downside to switching seamlessly from television to gaming and using simple hand gestures and voice commands to navigate menu's quickly and efficiently.
Most of the complaints seem to be from the "hardcore gamers" that are angry because microsoft have not just created an awesome standalone games console, any company that did just that would be doomed to fail in todays competitive market. The hardcore gamers among us probably account for such a minimal proportion of the overall market that catering a product solely for them would be business suicide. The thing isnt even released yet and so many people are quick to dismiss it, its clearly going to be a great peice of kit microsoft would not release a sub par product in the current economic climate and I am pretty sure the RROD scandal has taught them a lesson or two about getting things right from release.
The people unhappy about the kinnect always being on have little to worry about in terms of privacy. The data protection act and numerous other common legislation mean that any data collected regarding your personal information requires your express permission to collect it. if its a problem for you read the terms and conditions and opt out, much like you can choose to do with applications downloaded from android marketplace on mobile devices. The idea that the kinnect will be listening to your conversations and watching your every move to collect data for marketing purposes are just absurd not to mention the legality issues. Microsoft are a company that want to sell you products, they have more than enough information gathered by monitoring the type of games you buy and movies you watch...and I have no problem with them doing this providing they give something back via personalised recommendations.
Not to mention the fact we have only been drip fed a few details, maybe wait for E3 before totally dismissing what I beleive is going to be a really fuctional piece of hardware, and a great console to boot.
always_explicit
Your Kinnect is always on so no you wouldn't need to have the box running to use those features. How can you be disappointed at the lack of games when the console isnt even released yet. Also I am not defending their decision to make an all in one box down to the ground, what I am saying is that is a logical step for a console to take into the next generation. I do not think simply releasing an updated console with better graphics would have been enough to secure the top spot in the console market,see...that right there. You are exposing yourself. You said YOU were impressed, NOW you are taking about the top spot in the console market. GTFO, you aren't a gamer impressed with MS's console you are someone interested in profits that can come from all the consumer r@ping practices this can make because you probably have something invested in it.[QUOTE="always_explicit"][QUOTE="2Chalupas"]Nice essay. Console sucks. I'm not even disappointed at the lack of games at the reveal, because I *KNEW* it would be an all in one TV box that focused on Kinect and lacked games. That was the hype leading into the event. No, I'm disappointed because it's not even a good "all in one box". It cannot replace digital TV, cable boxes, or satellite boxes. You still need those "in addition", and that's if you want to have your XBOX on 100% of the time while you watch TV. There is no coaxial input or tuner capabilities (I simply cannot fathom this out of a so-called "all in one" box). Basically it does nothing except "pass through" the signal and display your TV channels in a window. Nothing you can't do right now with a PC, FREE software, and digital tuner. casharmy
You are like the third person I have seen come on where with these suspicious essays trying to convince people to be "ok" with everything MS is doing, ignore our own best interest and buy it despte ourselves. NOT happenig.
Yes... I HAVE BEEN EXPOSED!!!! .you caught me. My name is Ryan Andrews. I am a shareholder heavily invested in Microsoft, specifically the gaming sector. My mission was to infiltrate the gamespot forums as a level 14 user active for a number of years and operate from behind enemy lines. My task was to write an "essay" successfully convincing thousands of gamespotters to buy an Xbox1. This in turn would boost microsoft profits, in return as a shareholder I would receive vast vast sums of money. God the stupidity borders on painful. You realise that if every Gamespot member bought an X! that wouldnt even put 1 penny in "my pocket" as a "shareholder". Microsoft is a company than operates in billions mate. If you buy an X1 makes very little difference to me...much less a shareholder.[QUOTE="always_explicit"]I'm very impressd as well. I am greatrly against the used game ban/fees issue and want clairity that it is completely gone or different than most of us think it is. Outside of that I want a reasonable price for the Xbox One and a great E3 showing of games. I don't mind the entertainment/tv features or Kinect because since the system is getting 85% of all the PS4 games, and 15 of its own exclusives including eventually Halo 5 and Gears 4, as a core gamer I will have the Elder Scrolls, Mass Effects, GTA's and all the rest. So MS needs to just give us a price and leave the used game market the way it was, IMHO. But tech wise and game wise I am very much looking forward to Xbox One. Six months to launch and E3 upcoming will tell the tale. What are you clarifying? MS still hasn't come totally clean about the used game issueI feel that microsoft giving us an all in one entertainment box is a logical step forward, I feel if they simply delivered a powerful next gen games console people would be dissapointed that it didnt go the extra mile and deliver a more wholesome immersive experience. They are not reinventing the wheel here, what they do appear to be doing is utilising all the features that currently exist in someones living room and intergrating them to create a seamless and useful product. What on earth is the downside to switching seamlessly from television to gaming and using simple hand gestures and voice commands to navigate menu's quickly and efficiently.
Most of the complaints seem to be from the "hardcore gamers" that are angry because microsoft have not just created an awesome standalone games console, any company that did just that would be doomed to fail in todays competitive market. The hardcore gamers among us probably account for such a minimal proportion of the overall market that catering a product solely for them would be business suicide. The thing isnt even released yet and so many people are quick to dismiss it, its clearly going to be a great peice of kit microsoft would not release a sub par product in the current economic climate and I am pretty sure the RROD scandal has taught them a lesson or two about getting things right from release.
The people unhappy about the kinnect always being on have little to worry about in terms of privacy. The data protection act and numerous other common legislation mean that any data collected regarding your personal information requires your express permission to collect it. if its a problem for you read the terms and conditions and opt out, much like you can choose to do with applications downloaded from android marketplace on mobile devices. The idea that the kinnect will be listening to your conversations and watching your every move to collect data for marketing purposes are just absurd not to mention the legality issues. Microsoft are a company that want to sell you products, they have more than enough information gathered by monitoring the type of games you buy and movies you watch...and I have no problem with them doing this providing they give something back via personalised recommendations.
Not to mention the fact we have only been drip fed a few details, maybe wait for E3 before totally dismissing what I beleive is going to be a really fuctional piece of hardware, and a great console to boot.
shawn30
Absolute shambles of a console.
I really have no idea what the hell Microsoft are doing. 2 years development? Who the hell are they kidding?
More likely a stock holder/MS employee desperate to duke people into buying MS's rip-off product to increase his own profits. Cracks m up to see when someone is a Xbox One fan you find these idiots that have to claim they are MS employees or a fanboy. How about just a gamer that sees things differently than you? Cows can't seem to stand alternate viewpoints it seems. I don't care why you guys love the PS4 and don't see the ned to create any threads to try and get you not to buy one, lol. That's one thing I like about PC, Nintendo and MS gamers. They don't seem obsessed with trying to get you to buy what they like, or convince you why what you like sucks. Cows obsession with Sony is downright scary :)[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
I don't believe you're impressed with it, you're just a fanboy, grow up
casharmy
My point exactly if you support MS shady business tactics with the xbone .you are basically helping them screwed gamers of all type.and letting the gaming industry bleed out.... You cant sell your games, rent it, always online, and the main function for the xbone is KINECT and your tv....Every game will have something to do with that Kinect crap ...if your impressed with the xbone n will buy the xbone and pay their sub, your not a real gamer and you support m$ killing gaming period
_SWAG_
I feel that microsoft giving us an all in one entertainment box is a logical step forward, I feel if they simply delivered a powerful next gen games console people would be dissapointed that it didnt go the extra mile and deliver a more wholesome immersive experience. They are not reinventing the wheel here, what they do appear to be doing is utilising all the features that currently exist in someones living room and intergrating them to create a seamless and useful product. What on earth is the downside to switching seamlessly from television to gaming and using simple hand gestures and voice commands to navigate menu's quickly and efficiently.
Most of the complaints seem to be from the "hardcore gamers" that are angry because microsoft have not just created an awesome standalone games console, any company that did just that would be doomed to fail in todays competitive market. The hardcore gamers among us probably account for such a minimal proportion of the overall market that catering a product solely for them would be business suicide. The thing isnt even released yet and so many people are quick to dismiss it, its clearly going to be a great peice of kit microsoft would not release a sub par product in the current economic climate and I am pretty sure the RROD scandal has taught them a lesson or two about getting things right from release.
The people unhappy about the kinnect always being on have little to worry about in terms of privacy. The data protection act and numerous other common legislation mean that any data collected regarding your personal information requires your express permission to collect it. if its a problem for you read the terms and conditions and opt out, much like you can choose to do with applications downloaded from android marketplace on mobile devices. The idea that the kinnect will be listening to your conversations and watching your every move to collect data for marketing purposes are just absurd not to mention the legality issues. Microsoft are a company that want to sell you products, they have more than enough information gathered by monitoring the type of games you buy and movies you watch...and I have no problem with them doing this providing they give something back via personalised recommendations.
Not to mention the fact we have only been drip fed a few details, maybe wait for E3 before totally dismissing what I beleive is going to be a really fuctional piece of hardware, and a great console to boot.
always_explicit
fuvk off, I'm not reading all that..
[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]I just know I am not getting one. If I want to watch TV, I will just turn my TV on. I don't need no extra device to do that.always_explicitBut you wont need an EXTRA device thats the point. If your current setup consists of a television and a satellite reciever of some description. You will be adding the X1 which is a games console and controller for alternating between the internet television and gaming, if you add the PS4 your getting a games console....why not get the product that offers more features just because your not sure if your going to use them, Less is not more.....more is more.My current setup consist of free cable. So the Xbox 1 would be that "extra device". Thanks, but no thanks. I rarely watch TV. My TV is used for the PS3, Netflix, and news. That is it's only use.
[QUOTE="casharmy"]see...that right there. You are exposing yourself. You said YOU were impressed, NOW you are taking about the top spot in the console market. GTFO, you aren't a gamer impressed with MS's console you are someone interested in profits that can come from all the consumer r@ping practices this can make because you probably have something invested in it.[QUOTE="always_explicit"] Your Kinnect is always on so no you wouldn't need to have the box running to use those features. How can you be disappointed at the lack of games when the console isnt even released yet. Also I am not defending their decision to make an all in one box down to the ground, what I am saying is that is a logical step for a console to take into the next generation. I do not think simply releasing an updated console with better graphics would have been enough to secure the top spot in the console market,always_explicit
You are like the third person I have seen come on where with these suspicious essays trying to convince people to be "ok" with everything MS is doing, ignore our own best interest and buy it despte ourselves. NOT happenig.
Yes... I HAVE BEEN EXPOSED!!!! .you caught me. My name is Ryan Andrews. I am a shareholder heavily invested in Microsoft, specifically the gaming sector. My mission was to infiltrate the gamespot forums as a level 14 user active for a number of years and operate from behind enemy lines. My task was to write an "essay" successfully convincing thousands of gamespotters to buy an Xbox1. This in turn would boost microsoft profits, in return as a shareholder I would receive vast vast sums of money. God the stupidity borders on painful. You realise that if every Gamespot member bought an X! that wouldnt even put 1 penny in "my pocket" as a "shareholder". Microsoft is a company than operates in billions mate. If you buy an X1 makes very little difference to me...much less a shareholder. BEST REPLY I HAVE EVER READ ON SYSTEM WARS!!!!! LMAO![QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]I just know I am not getting one. If I want to watch TV, I will just turn my TV on. I don't need no extra device to do that.always_explicitBut you wont need an EXTRA device thats the point. If your current setup consists of a television and a satellite reciever of some description. You will be adding the X1 which is a games console and controller for alternating between the internet television and gaming, if you add the PS4 your getting a games console....why not get the product that offers more features just because your not sure if your going to use them, Less is not more.....more is more.Also, buying things with extra features you will never use is something I will leave for the stupid people of the world to do.
[QUOTE="shawn30"][QUOTE="always_explicit"]I'm very impressd as well. I am greatrly against the used game ban/fees issue and want clairity that it is completely gone or different than most of us think it is. Outside of that I want a reasonable price for the Xbox One and a great E3 showing of games. I don't mind the entertainment/tv features or Kinect because since the system is getting 85% of all the PS4 games, and 15 of its own exclusives including eventually Halo 5 and Gears 4, as a core gamer I will have the Elder Scrolls, Mass Effects, GTA's and all the rest. So MS needs to just give us a price and leave the used game market the way it was, IMHO. But tech wise and game wise I am very much looking forward to Xbox One. Six months to launch and E3 upcoming will tell the tale. What are you clarifying? MS still hasn't come totally clean about the used game issue I know that. What I'm saying is that's a big issue to me and I want clarity that it won't happen or how exactly it will.I feel that microsoft giving us an all in one entertainment box is a logical step forward, I feel if they simply delivered a powerful next gen games console people would be dissapointed that it didnt go the extra mile and deliver a more wholesome immersive experience. They are not reinventing the wheel here, what they do appear to be doing is utilising all the features that currently exist in someones living room and intergrating them to create a seamless and useful product. What on earth is the downside to switching seamlessly from television to gaming and using simple hand gestures and voice commands to navigate menu's quickly and efficiently.
Most of the complaints seem to be from the "hardcore gamers" that are angry because microsoft have not just created an awesome standalone games console, any company that did just that would be doomed to fail in todays competitive market. The hardcore gamers among us probably account for such a minimal proportion of the overall market that catering a product solely for them would be business suicide. The thing isnt even released yet and so many people are quick to dismiss it, its clearly going to be a great peice of kit microsoft would not release a sub par product in the current economic climate and I am pretty sure the RROD scandal has taught them a lesson or two about getting things right from release.
The people unhappy about the kinnect always being on have little to worry about in terms of privacy. The data protection act and numerous other common legislation mean that any data collected regarding your personal information requires your express permission to collect it. if its a problem for you read the terms and conditions and opt out, much like you can choose to do with applications downloaded from android marketplace on mobile devices. The idea that the kinnect will be listening to your conversations and watching your every move to collect data for marketing purposes are just absurd not to mention the legality issues. Microsoft are a company that want to sell you products, they have more than enough information gathered by monitoring the type of games you buy and movies you watch...and I have no problem with them doing this providing they give something back via personalised recommendations.
Not to mention the fact we have only been drip fed a few details, maybe wait for E3 before totally dismissing what I beleive is going to be a really fuctional piece of hardware, and a great console to boot.
dveight88
[QUOTE="casharmy"]More likely a stock holder/MS employee desperate to duke people into buying MS's rip-off product to increase his own profits. Yeah because the numbers of people I could "convince" to buy an X1 on this one internet forum I have posted in are going to be significant enough to boost the profits of Microsoft. Because microsoft are so worried about their profit margin...Jesus... that is definitely.... bar none the most stupid post I have ever come across...well done sir.Not stupid at all, YOU said you are impressed with it....EVERYONE else is telling you why they aren't, yet you are DESPERATELY trying convince people writing essays and going back and forth with everyone who disagrees with you trying to force others to agree with you.[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
I don't believe you're impressed with it, you're just a fanboy, grow up
always_explicit
So the X 1 impresses you, always online, DRM and all...cool we all heard you so go buy 100 and stack them in your house, it's your money so go knock yourself out, but other people see it as a consumer rip off product and dont want to buy into it so fvck off unless you want to offer to pay for all of our consoles games and all yourself. You want us to have it so bad right? If not STFU.
Yeah because the numbers of people I could "convince" to buy an X1 on this one internet forum I have posted in are going to be significant enough to boost the profits of Microsoft. Because microsoft are so worried about their profit margin...Jesus... that is definitely.... bar none the most stupid post I have ever come across...well done sir.Not stupid at all, YOU said you are impressed with it....EVERYONE else is telling you why they aren't, yet you are DESPERATELY trying convince people writing essays and going back and forth with everyone who disagrees with you trying to force others to agree with you.[QUOTE="always_explicit"][QUOTE="casharmy"]More likely a stock holder/MS employee desperate to duke people into buying MS's rip-off product to increase his own profits.
casharmy
So the X 1 impresses you, always online, DRM and all...cool we all heard you so go buy 100 and stack them in your house, it's your money so go knock yourself out, but other people see it as a consumer rip off product and dont want to buy into it so fvck off unless you want to offer to pay for all of our consoles games and all yourself. You want us to have it so bad right? If not STFU.
You take gaming far to seriously pal if you're seeing all that in his posts. He just sees the Xbox One differently than you do. So do I. Why isn't that enough to accept. You have listed your reasons why its not for you, and some of us have countered with why its right for us. Yet you seem obsessed with trying to change our minds. Dude, relax. Don't have a heart attack. In the real world it is very ok to have differing opinions. It really is :)[QUOTE="casharmy"]see...that right there. You are exposing yourself. You said YOU were impressed, NOW you are taking about the top spot in the console market. GTFO, you aren't a gamer impressed with MS's console you are someone interested in profits that can come from all the consumer r@ping practices this can make because you probably have something invested in it.[QUOTE="always_explicit"] Your Kinnect is always on so no you wouldn't need to have the box running to use those features. How can you be disappointed at the lack of games when the console isnt even released yet. Also I am not defending their decision to make an all in one box down to the ground, what I am saying is that is a logical step for a console to take into the next generation. I do not think simply releasing an updated console with better graphics would have been enough to secure the top spot in the console market,always_explicit
You are like the third person I have seen come on where with these suspicious essays trying to convince people to be "ok" with everything MS is doing, ignore our own best interest and buy it despte ourselves. NOT happenig.
Yes... I HAVE BEEN EXPOSED!!!! .you caught me. My name is Ryan Andrews. I am a shareholder heavily invested in Microsoft, specifically the gaming sector. My mission was to infiltrate the gamespot forums as a level 14 user active for a number of years and operate from behind enemy lines. My task was to write an "essay" successfully convincing thousands of gamespotters to buy an Xbox1. This in turn would boost microsoft profits, in return as a shareholder I would receive vast vast sums of money. God the stupidity borders on painful. You realise that if every Gamespot member bought an X! that wouldnt even put 1 penny in "my pocket" as a "shareholder". Microsoft is a company than operates in billions mate. If you buy an X1 makes very little difference to me...much less a shareholder.Ok again..
YOU said you are impressed with it....EVERYONE else is telling you why they aren't, yet you are DESPERATELY trying convince people writing essays and going back and forth with everyone who disagrees with you trying to force others to agree with you.
So the X 1 impresses you, always online, DRM and all...cool we all heard you so go buy 100 and stack them in your house, it's your money so go knock yourself out, but other people see it as a consumer rip off product and dont want to buy into it so fvck off unless you want to offer to pay for all of our consoles games and all yourself. You want us to have it so bad right? If not STFU.
[QUOTE="casharmy"]More likely a stock holder/MS employee desperate to duke people into buying MS's rip-off product to increase his own profits. Cracks m up to see when someone is a Xbox One fan you find these idiots that have to claim they are MS employees or a fanboy. How about just a gamer that sees things differently than you? Cows can't seem to stand alternate viewpoints it seems. I don't care why you guys love the PS4 and don't see the ned to create any threads to try and get you not to buy one, lol. That's one thing I like about PC, Nintendo and MS gamers. They don't seem obsessed with trying to get you to buy what they like, or convince you why what you like sucks. Cows obsession with Sony is downright scary :) Another Lemmings that like to get fuked by MS xboner.. lol..i think your obsession with MS says it all.Its not even scary its beyond that. Everything you say its just the opposite this thread is about trying to convince us that xbone is the right console for everyone and so powerful when its not..Enjoy getting rape by MS Lemmings..you guys love it![QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
I don't believe you're impressed with it, you're just a fanboy, grow up
shawn30
[QUOTE="casharmy"]Not stupid at all, YOU said you are impressed with it....EVERYONE else is telling you why they aren't, yet you are DESPERATELY trying convince people writing essays and going back and forth with everyone who disagrees with you trying to force others to agree with you.[QUOTE="always_explicit"] Yeah because the numbers of people I could "convince" to buy an X1 on this one internet forum I have posted in are going to be significant enough to boost the profits of Microsoft. Because microsoft are so worried about their profit margin...Jesus... that is definitely.... bar none the most stupid post I have ever come across...well done sir.shawn30
So the X 1 impresses you, always online, DRM and all...cool we all heard you so go buy 100 and stack them in your house, it's your money so go knock yourself out, but other people see it as a consumer rip off product and dont want to buy into it so fvck off unless you want to offer to pay for all of our consoles games and all yourself. You want us to have it so bad right? If not STFU.
You take gaming far to seriously pal if you're seeing all that in his posts. He just sees the Xbox One differently than you do. So do I. Why isn't that enough to accept. You have listed your reasons why its not for you, and some of us have countered with why its right for us. Yet you seem obsessed with trying to change our minds.Dude, relax. Don't have a heart attack. In the real world it is very ok to have differing opinions. It really is :)Where?Oh with that a fail. Never once tried to change "your" minds.
[QUOTE="shawn30"][QUOTE="casharmy"]More likely a stock holder/MS employee desperate to duke people into buying MS's rip-off product to increase his own profits.stayhigh1Cracks m up to see when someone is a Xbox One fan you find these idiots that have to claim they are MS employees or a fanboy. How about just a gamer that sees things differently than you? Cows can't seem to stand alternate viewpoints it seems. I don't care why you guys love the PS4 and don't see the ned to create any threads to try and get you not to buy one, lol. That's one thing I like about PC, Nintendo and MS gamers. They don't seem obsessed with trying to get you to buy what they like, or convince you why what you like sucks. Cows obsession with Sony is downright scary :) Another Lemmings that like to get fuked by MS xboner.. lol..i think your obsession with MS says it all.Its not even scary its beyond that. Everything you say its just the opposite this thread is about trying to convince us that xbone is the right console for everyone and so powerful when its not..Enjoy getting rape by MS Lemmings..you guys love it! First off I wish Cows were less obsessed with Sony and more with proper English, spelling, and butthurt, ass rape and things of that nature. Second, no obsession with MS here. I simply like what I have seen, while voicing my concerns. I haven't tried to sell anyone on buying a Xbox One if they don't like the games, policies or features. To each his own. I could care less if you buy it or not as I do not get paid by MS, lol. But you act as if Sony is your dear old sweet grandma you gotta protect at all costs, who is leaving you her lifes savings, the cure to cancer, and a lollypop. Take a chill pill, really. :)
I am not impressed with the tech (Although I have a feeling Microsoft might give it an upgrade and announce it at E3) but from a sports fan point of view I like what I see. Plus it has Forza and Halo. So I am sold on it regardless.
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