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So to stay up with the best gaming rig, or at least decent gaming rig with equivalent performance you have to keep upgrading as least as much as a 300 or so dollar console each 5 years.
Consoles have outshined PCs in terms of popularity and ease of use. Not everyone wants to worry if your PC will have compatible ram and drivers for that new motherboard you got. You plug in your console, pop a disc in and go. Buy a new one in 5 years.
There is no PC gaming supremacy anywhere but graphics, and even that is marginal nowadays.
So to stay up with the best gaming rig, or at least decent gaming rig with equivalent performance you have to keep upgrading as least as much as a 300 or so dollar console each 5 years.
Consoles have outshined PCs in terms of popularity and ease of use. Not everyone wants to worry if your PC will have compatible ram and drivers for that new motherboard you got. You plug in your console, pop a disc in and go. Buy a new one in 5 years.
There is no PC gaming supremacy anywhere but graphics, and even that is marginal nowadays.
SemiMaster
Why does everyone person who uses the pop in the disc and go keep forgetting about the PS3? Seriously.
And PC is superior in other ways than just graphics. But of course, you got to experience PC gaming before you know.
And mods, and better multiplayer.So to stay up with the best gaming rig, or at least decent gaming rig with equivalent performance you have to keep upgrading as least as much as a 300 or so dollar console each 5 years.
Consoles have outshined PCs in terms of popularity and ease of use. Not everyone wants to worry if your PC will have compatible ram and drivers for that new motherboard you got. You plug in your console, pop a disc in and go. Buy a new one in 5 years.
There is no PC gaming supremacy anywhere but graphics, and even that is marginal nowadays.
SemiMaster
Devs moving to PC?Not with piracy.;)789shadowYou mean like the piracy on 360? Really pirates were never potential buyers to begin with.
you're so random and confusing, i never really know what your talking about but hey, u make me laugh quite a bit though, so....you get my fanboy approval! never give up blackdreamhunk, never give up...BIg companies are afraid to make new consoles in a ression. Pc gaming is starting to get better with it's new tech, better graphics,better game play and better value. Console gaming will start to look really bad and old as pc games get better each even in a ression.
http://www.edge-online.com/news/avalanche-breaks-silence-secret-project
Even the low auility and none big IP's are starting to look better than currnet gen console. India and china are not supporting console or the console are not selling. The world is playing pc games and not console. It looks like consoles have a dark future ahead.
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20090112005551&newsLang=en
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/the-indian-market
blackdreamhunk
[QUOTE="SemiMaster"]And mods, and better multiplayer. Multiplayer not so much anymore, but mods sure, I'll give it that.So to stay up with the best gaming rig, or at least decent gaming rig with equivalent performance you have to keep upgrading as least as much as a 300 or so dollar console each 5 years.
Consoles have outshined PCs in terms of popularity and ease of use. Not everyone wants to worry if your PC will have compatible ram and drivers for that new motherboard you got. You plug in your console, pop a disc in and go. Buy a new one in 5 years.
There is no PC gaming supremacy anywhere but graphics, and even that is marginal nowadays.
AAllxxjjnn
[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="SemiMaster"]And mods, and better multiplayer. Multiplayer not so much anymore, but mods sure, I'll give it that.So to stay up with the best gaming rig, or at least decent gaming rig with equivalent performance you have to keep upgrading as least as much as a 300 or so dollar console each 5 years.
Consoles have outshined PCs in terms of popularity and ease of use. Not everyone wants to worry if your PC will have compatible ram and drivers for that new motherboard you got. You plug in your console, pop a disc in and go. Buy a new one in 5 years.
There is no PC gaming supremacy anywhere but graphics, and even that is marginal nowadays.
SemiMaster
Higher player counts in servers, dedicated servers, user created maps, free content (valve for example releasing tons of stuff on a constant basis) all disagree with you.
Devs moving to PC?Not with piracy.;)789shadowthere is a ton of games on the pc. Pc gaming has created a few new companies and it's hot in a ression. Unlike them console companies who are going bankuprt. By the way there is alot pircay on consoles to. There is talk that console pircay is alot bigger on consoles.
If the world is playing pc games what are console game devs going to do. I mean there is alot of games on pc that is better looking and have better game play than consoles.
Why does everyone person who uses the pop in the disc and go keep forgetting about the PS3? Seriously.
And PC is superior in other ways than just graphics. But of course, you got to experience PC gaming before you know.
bladeeagle
Because you have to install games on PS3. On the 360 it's a choice.
[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"]seems logical to me. everybody needs a computer, why not use it to play games as well instead of buying an extra expensive toy (console)?lowe0Same reason people go to the pub instead of brewing their own. Some people have no interest in building their own, even if they're perfectly capable of it, and would rather pay for someone else to do the work instead. Nothin stoppin yeah from droppin 60 bucks on a third party to assemble your PC.
[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"][QUOTE="bethwo"]Keep dreaming hermitbethwoI don't need to dream it's happening as we speak :) No it isn't.did you reany of my links :)
Unlike them console companies who are going bankuprtblackdreamhunkOh, yeah, those console companies are totally going "bankurpt" (learn to spell). What game was the first to hit a billion dollars in sales? Oh, yeah, Guitar Hero. But I'm sure all of those sales were from the PC version, right? :roll:
[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]Unlike them console companies who are going bankuprtlowe0Oh, yeah, those console companies are totally going "bankurpt" (learn to spell). What game was the first to hit a billion dollars in sales? Oh, yeah, Guitar Hero. But I'm sure all of those sales were from the PC version, right? :roll:guitar hero Is a multi plat game, i also qestion the the creadability of the sorce about guitar hero.
By the way I forgot to add a link for this thread
http://anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=536
Oh, yeah, those console companies are totally going "bankurpt" (learn to spell). What game was the first to hit a billion dollars in sales? Oh, yeah, Guitar Hero. But I'm sure all of those sales were from the PC version, right? :roll:guitar hero Is a multi plat game, i also qestion the the creadability of the sorce about guitar hero.[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]Unlike them console companies who are going bankuprtblackdreamhunk
By the way I forgot to add a link for this thread
http://anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=536
http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2009/01/12/guitar-hero-iii-first-game-to-reach-1-billion-in-sales Enjoy. A statement made by a public company at a trade show. Such statements, if falsified, constitute fraud. And if they did that, they'd go bankrupt.Edit: too harsh. I'll play nice.
[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="SamiRDuran"]seems logical to me. everybody needs a computer, why not use it to play games as well instead of buying an extra expensive toy (console)?VandalvideoSame reason people go to the pub instead of brewing their own. Some people have no interest in building their own, even if they're perfectly capable of it, and would rather pay for someone else to do the work instead. Nothin stoppin yeah from droppin 60 bucks on a third party to assemble your PC.Do they come by to maintain it, too? Update drivers? Set up the 3rd party gamepad hacks you're so fond of? Set up the game to maintain 24-30 FPS at my display's native resolution, and use the speaker setup from Control Panel instead of making me select surround sound from a menu? Fix annoyances like how GTA IV won't let me play because it insists on downloading my Live profile yet never actually downloads it?
And yeah, I'm well aware that some games support gamepads perfectly, and others have pretty good auto-detection, and others are smart enough to use the desktop resolution and sound config you've already specified, and plenty of them work fine without messing with Live. But I don't want "some here" and "some there" - I just want it to work, out of the box, every goddamn game, every goddamn time. That's not too much to ask, because both of my consoles already give me exactly that.
I don't get it. Are you trying to predict the death of console gaming? because I'm honestly not seeing it. Is this about console graphics not being able to improve much in the coming years? because how would that make console gaming stale?BIg companies are afraid to make new consoles in a ression. Pc gaming is starting to get better with it's new tech, better graphics,better game play and better value. Console gaming will start to look really bad and old as pc games get better each even in a ression.
http://www.edge-online.com/news/avalanche-breaks-silence-secret-project
Even the low auility and none big IP's are starting to look better than currnet gen console. India and china are not supporting console or the console are not selling. The world is playing pc games and not console. It looks like consoles have a dark future ahead.
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20090112005551&newsLang=en
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/the-indian-market
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/consoles-unlikely-to-make-a-big-impact-in-india
http://anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=536
blackdreamhunk
[QUOTE="bethwo"][QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]I don't need to dream it's happening as we speak :)blackdreamhunkNo it isn't.did you reany of my links :) yes, and i still fail to find how any of them are relevant to the insinuation that consoles are finished after this gen.
I have to say i still qestion the creadability of that sorce 1billion is alot of money I can see a game making that.It's going to be hard for console game devs to compete with pc game devs when the world plays on pc and not consoles. Also the fact the better and faster production times with better hardware on the pc.blackdreamhunkthe world plays on both PCs and consoles. its been that way for quite a while.
[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]I don't get it. Are you trying to predict the death of console gaming? because I'm honestly not seeing it. Is this about console graphics not being able to improve much in the coming years? because how would that make console gaming stale? To be honest the post just made me dizzy....It's mind boggling to me how anyone actually understood anything in it.BIg companies are afraid to make new consoles in a ression. Pc gaming is starting to get better with it's new tech, better graphics,better game play and better value. Console gaming will start to look really bad and old as pc games get better each even in a ression.
http://www.edge-online.com/news/avalanche-breaks-silence-secret-project
Even the low auility and none big IP's are starting to look better than currnet gen console. India and china are not supporting console or the console are not selling. The world is playing pc games and not console. It looks like consoles have a dark future ahead.
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20090112005551&newsLang=en
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/the-indian-market
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/consoles-unlikely-to-make-a-big-impact-in-india
http://anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=536
dark-warmachine
Do they come by to maintain it, too? Update drivers? Set up the 3rd party gamepad hacks you're so fond of? Set up the game to maintain 24-30 FPS at my display's native resolution, and use the speaker setup from Control Panel instead of making me select surround sound from a menu? Fix annoyances like how GTA IV won't let me play because it insists on downloading my Live profile yet never actually downloads it? And yeah, I'm well aware that some games support gamepads perfectly, and others have pretty good auto-detection, and others are smart enough to use the desktop resolution and sound config you've already specified, and plenty of them work fine without messing with Live. But I don't want "some here" and "some there" - I just want it to work, out of the box, every goddamn game, every goddamn time. That's not too much to ask, because both of my consoles already give me exactly that.lowe0You're complaining about steps that take all of less than five miuntes to fix yourself? You do not have to upgrade drivers on a regular basis. I'm still using the vanilla drivers that came with my rig and it is still running fine over a year in. These are all personal inconveniences that YOU have with your rig under your OWN setup. I personally have tons of issues with my consoles and have had to have my tech savvy step dad fix them all for me. Relatively speaking, I've had far less inconveniences on my PC than on my consoles.
BIg companies are afraid to make new consoles in a ression. Pc gaming is starting to get better with it's new tech, better graphics,better game play and better value. Console gaming will start to look really bad and old as pc games get better each even in a ression.
http://www.edge-online.com/news/avalanche-breaks-silence-secret-project
Even the low auility and none big IP's are starting to look better than currnet gen console. India and china are not supporting console or the console are not selling. The world is playing pc games and not console. It looks like consoles have a dark future ahead.
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20090112005551&newsLang=en
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/the-indian-market
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/consoles-unlikely-to-make-a-big-impact-in-india
http://anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=536
I lvoe my PC, BUT consoles dont get updated every 6 months like PC hardware does. MS and Sony and Nintendo won't hold abck a console due to recession, if anything PC parts will slow in progress due to the lack of upgrading people on the market. As much as I love my gaming PC, I think your theory is wrong.[QUOTE="Phazevariance"]I lvoe my PC, BUT consoles dont get updated every 6 months like PC hardware does. MS and Sony and Nintendo won't hold abck a console due to recession, if anything PC parts will slow in progress due to the lack of upgrading people on the market. As much as I love my gaming PC, I think your theory is wrong.blackdreamhunkit's not my words but the words of micro soft whos said they are not making any new consoles it's all over the net bud!!!!!!I think your reading comphension sucks but just to be on the safe side, can you provide us a link to that?
[QUOTE="lowe0"]But I don't want "some here" and "some there" - I just want it to work, out of the box, every goddamn game, every goddamn time. That's not too much to ask, because both of my consoles already give me exactly that.VandalvideoYou're complaining about steps that take all of less than five miuntes to fix yourself? Yeah. Why should I spend even 5 minutes if I don't really feel like I'm getting anything of value out of it?
Yeah. Why should I spend even 5 minutes if I don't really feel like I'm getting anything of value out of it?lowe0Well you're the highly trained computer technician in the room. If anyone can do it in a negligble ammount time I'm sure you can.
[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"][QUOTE="Phazevariance"]I lvoe my PC, BUT consoles dont get updated every 6 months like PC hardware does. MS and Sony and Nintendo won't hold abck a console due to recession, if anything PC parts will slow in progress due to the lack of upgrading people on the market. As much as I love my gaming PC, I think your theory is wrong.dark-warmachineit's not my words but the words of micro soft whos said they are not making any new consoles it's all over the net bud!!!!!!I think your reading comphension sucks but just to be on the safe side, can you provide us a link to that?yea well I'm not the one who is worried the world play pc games and sony micro soft is in the hole because of consoles. LOL
[QUOTE="lowe0"]Yeah. Why should I spend even 5 minutes if I don't really feel like I'm getting anything of value out of it?VandalvideoWell you're the highly trained computer technician in the room. If anyone can do it in a negligble ammount time I'm sure you can.Not what I asked. I didn't ask how long it would take me, I asked whether any amount of effort was worth it for something that I don't see any value in.
And I'm a programmer, not a technician. (Though as the current on-call, I was way too busy doing technician-type stuff to write any code today.) You've already accused me of falsifying my career, so if you insist on being patronizing, please be accurate while you do so.
[QUOTE="lowe0"]Yeah. Why should I spend even 5 minutes if I don't really feel like I'm getting anything of value out of it?VandalvideoWell you're the highly trained computer technician in the room. If anyone can do it in a negligble ammount time I'm sure you can.but he just doesnt want to, is it wrong to come home form a long day of work and just kick back and pop in a game and play with no worries ;)
yea well I'm not the one who is worried the world play pc games and sony micro soft is in the hole because of consoles. LOLblackdreamhunkWhat do you mean by "in the hole" do you mean financially? If so, why did you fail to mention Nintendo and it's Wii?
New PC Game is out (The new Total War game for example) new board, vid card, ram, CPU probably an OS reinstall because it will crap itself, and update all the drivers. Then figure out why it's choppy, adjust the sound settings, open the right ports in the firewall because multiplayer games aren't working properly, spend a day tweaking the AA/Visual settings. When it's all working, download the 1.4GB patch, then download the 1.6gb patch because the last one was for the UK English, not NA English boxed version. Can't get into any online games until everyone else has repatched. Game starts crashing, have to wait 2 weeks for the 200MB patch that fixes it, but I can't use my old savegames.I don't think that you should let you own inability to use PC's correctly make you biased against the platform as a whole. A lot of people can use PC's just fine.New 360 game is out, I buy it, I put it in the drive, I play it. I even have enough time left over to get some action that evening.
BTW I can see into the future.
kerpal_cz
[QUOTE="ricopogimo"] Tri Sli 8800gt 512DDR3 lowe0As someone who has SLI'd 8800GTs and knows exactly how many SLI connectors there are (hint: not enough for tri-SLI), good luck with that. What? They make Tri-SLI boards now.
Ultimately it will be that devs that decide wichway gaming goes. PCs are more work to make games for and piracy is realy hurting profits so it's more likely that gaming will head to the consoles. If Piracy becomes rampant on them *cough dreamcast cough* then there might be a shift back to PC gaming (assuming by then the problem has been curbed with better security).Tasman_basicPC's are both easier and cheaper to make games for.
[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="ricopogimo"] Tri Sli 8800gt 512DDR3 DragonfireXZ95As someone who has SLI'd 8800GTs and knows exactly how many SLI connectors there are (hint: not enough for tri-SLI), good luck with that. What? They make Tri-SLI boards now.Yeah. That's a feature on the 9800 GT. The 8800 GT is limited to 2-way SLI.
[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="ricopogimo"] Tri Sli 8800gt 512DDR3 DragonfireXZ95As someone who has SLI'd 8800GTs and knows exactly how many SLI connectors there are (hint: not enough for tri-SLI), good luck with that. What? They make Tri-SLI boards now. Give the dude a break man I swear its a typo. I did the same mistake yesterday. 8800 only does Sli he means 9800s mate
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