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#101 jun_aka_pekto
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I thought SMG2 would get GOTY because it was a 10/10 game. Nope. Scores mean squat when it comes to GOTY.

If whoever at GS decide now to give this year's GOTY based on its review score, then they're really full of it becaue it'll show they no consistency with their methods.

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#102 argetlam00
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Gears 3=Dark Souls=The Witcher 2 > Everything Just fixed it for you.Oil_rope_bombs

BAHAHAHAH gears 3 on that list. I played all those games. Skyrim makes them look silly. Dark souls is downright awful IMO but I can see why people like that masochistic garbage.

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#103 RavenLoud
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[QUOTE="Oil_rope_bombs"]Gears 3=Dark Souls=The Witcher 2 > Everything Just fixed it for you.argetlam00

BAHAHAHAH gears 3 on that list. I played all those games. Skyrim makes them look silly. Dark souls is downright awful IMO but I can see why people like that masochistic garbage.

Hey, just want you to know that insulting fans of games you don't like with condescending labels doesn't make me sympathize with your opinion or your arguments at all. Get off that high horse.
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#104 argetlam00
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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="Oil_rope_bombs"]Gears 3=Dark Souls=The Witcher 2 > Everything Just fixed it for you.RavenLoud

BAHAHAHAH gears 3 on that list. I played all those games. Skyrim makes them look silly. Dark souls is downright awful IMO but I can see why people like that masochistic garbage.

Hey, just want you to know that insulting fans of games you don't like with condescending labels doesn't make me sympathize with your opinion or your arguments at all. Get off that high horse.

Where did I insult anyone again? I insulted Gears 3 cause its a dreadful shooter just like all the other console shooters.

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#105 RavenLoud
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[QUOTE="RavenLoud"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

BAHAHAHAH gears 3 on that list. I played all those games. Skyrim makes them look silly. Dark souls is downright awful IMO but I can see why people like that masochistic garbage.

argetlam00

Hey, just want you to know that insulting fans of games you don't like with condescending labels doesn't make me sympathize with your opinion or your arguments at all. Get off that high horse.

Where did I insult anyone again? I insulted Gears 3 cause its a dreadful shooter just like all the other console shooters.

Whatever, you know what you did. You got the word elitist slapped all over your head. Note that I don't disagree with the quality of Geow3 personally. PS: Please stop overhyping the difficulty of Dark Souls. Out of curiosity, how far did you play to?
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#106 turtlethetaffer
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Zelda and Assassin's Creed haven't been released yet...

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#107 argetlam00
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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="RavenLoud"] Hey, just want you to know that insulting fans of games you don't like with condescending labels doesn't make me sympathize with your opinion or your arguments at all. Get off that high horse.RavenLoud

Where did I insult anyone again? I insulted Gears 3 cause its a dreadful shooter just like all the other console shooters.

Whatever, you know what you did. You got the word elitist slapped all over your head. Note that I don't disagree with the quality of Geow3 personally. PS: Please stop overhyping the difficulty of Dark Souls. Out of curiosity, how far did you play to?

I didn't get to far lets say that. I returned the game immediately after I found out that I could not play coop with my friends, which is the very reason I bought it. They made this game unfun. How is it fun to play with random people instead of your friends? Whats wrong wtih solving the games challenges with your friends? Why would they not implement such basic and simple features like invite coop and VOIP in this game? There are way too many games out there that I haven't played yet to waste my time banging my head against a brick wall.

I dont consider dying a bazillion times until I finally get lucky and beat the level fun at all.

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#108 deactivated-5b31d3729c1fa
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[QUOTE="killu-later"]

UC3 10/10 IGN > ALL

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Skyward Sword=Unfarted 3 > ALL

fixed :P

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[QUOTE="killu-later"]

UC3 10/10 IGN > ALL

NeonNinja

Skyward Sword=Unfarted 3 > ALL

fixed :P

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#110 fabz_95
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If we're talking solely about review scores then you're forgetting that Gears got a 9.5. Skyward Sword has a chance of equaling the feat too.
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="killu-later"]

UC3 10/10 IGN > ALL

TrapJak

Skyward Sword=Unfarted 3

Skywart Sore=Unbelievable 3.

But seriously, IGN gave the 2 greatest games of all time 10's . No need to hate :D.

Metal Gear Solid 4 and OOT ?
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#112 RavenLoud
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[QUOTE="RavenLoud"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

Where did I insult anyone again? I insulted Gears 3 cause its a dreadful shooter just like all the other console shooters.

argetlam00

Whatever, you know what you did. You got the word elitist slapped all over your head. Note that I don't disagree with the quality of Geow3 personally. PS: Please stop overhyping the difficulty of Dark Souls. Out of curiosity, how far did you play to?

I didn't get to far lets say that. I returned the game immediately after I found out that I could not play coop with my friends, which is the very reason I bought it. They made this game unfun. How is it fun to play with random people instead of your friends? Whats wrong wtih solving the games challenges with your friends? Why would they not implement such basic and simple features like invite coop and VOIP in this game? There are way too many games out there that I haven't played yet to waste my time banging my head against a brick wall.

I dont consider dying a bazillion times until I finally get lucky and beat the level fun at all.

Hum...

So you didn't play that far...

...yet you somehow make statements that the only way to beat this game is to bang your head against the wall and die before it finally works...because there is nothing else to do in this game other than dying. Don't you think it's a pretty vague and pretentious statement?

You base your hatred of the game on lack of a online system the way you want, because you made an image of this game that it's so hard that it's not worth it to play it alone (not quite as hardcore as you think really, most Souls fans will tell you that the difficulty is exaggerated).

If I were you, I would stop making assumptions about the game or its fanbase and just goddamn play it, it would be childish otherwise. This entitlement thing with co-op as justification seems a bit weak when going to labeling the game as "masochistic garbage".

Dark souls is downright amazing IMO but I can see why people are cowards for not liking that glorious masterpiece for real gamerz. BTW I didn't play far into it.

(That was a parody statement. I do not think like this and do not like people who do so.)

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#113 argetlam00
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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="RavenLoud"] Whatever, you know what you did. You got the word elitist slapped all over your head. Note that I don't disagree with the quality of Geow3 personally. PS: Please stop overhyping the difficulty of Dark Souls. Out of curiosity, how far did you play to?RavenLoud

I didn't get to far lets say that. I returned the game immediately after I found out that I could not play coop with my friends, which is the very reason I bought it. They made this game unfun. How is it fun to play with random people instead of your friends? Whats wrong wtih solving the games challenges with your friends? Why would they not implement such basic and simple features like invite coop and VOIP in this game? There are way too many games out there that I haven't played yet to waste my time banging my head against a brick wall.

I dont consider dying a bazillion times until I finally get lucky and beat the level fun at all.

Hum...

So you didn't play that far...

...yet you somehow make statements that the only way to beat this game is to bang your head against the wall and die before it finally works...because there is nothing else to do in this game other than dying. Don't you think it's a pretty vague and pretentious statement?

You base your hatred of the game on lack of a online system the way you want, because you made an image of this game that it's so hard that it's not worth it to play it alone (not quite as hardcore as you think really, most Souls fans will tell you that the difficulty is exaggerated).

If I were you, I would stop making assumptions about the game or its fanbase and just goddamn play it, it would be childish otherwise. This entitlement thing with co-op as justification seems a bit weak when going to labeling the game as "masochistic garbage".

Dark souls is downright amazing IMO but I can see why people are cowards for not liking that glorious masterpiece for real gamerz. BTW I didn't play far into it.

(That was a parody statement. I do not think like this and do not like people who do so.)

All the reviews I read have told me the game is extremely difficult and requires a ton of trial an error. A friend I have that owned Demon Souls (not dark souls though) told me his experience was just trial and error until he finally won. He got sick of the game pretty fast. Many people that played the game on the forums also have stated the same opinion. WHy should I not believe them? I have no desire to play an extremely difficult game and be frustrated with it. Especially when it is designed not to be fun. I had someone tell me that the justification behind the god awful coop in this game is that the developers wanted it to be harder so you cant "blast through" the game with your friends. Are you kidding me? How is it in any way fun to play the game with random people and look at bloody trails all day than solve the games challenges with your friends? You know the main purpose of a game is to be fun right? Trial and error is not fun and I'm afraid your opinion doesn't beat the opinions of the many people that told me the game is nothing more than a frustrating trial and error experience.

I guarantee you that the game would have sold far better if they had created a proper coop system and actually designed the game to be fun instead of always putting difficulty first. As long as they continue to do that and maintain their trash coop ill continue ignoring their games.

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#114 RavenLoud
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[QUOTE="RavenLoud"]

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

I didn't get to far lets say that. I returned the game immediately after I found out that I could not play coop with my friends, which is the very reason I bought it. They made this game unfun. How is it fun to play with random people instead of your friends? Whats wrong wtih solving the games challenges with your friends? Why would they not implement such basic and simple features like invite coop and VOIP in this game? There are way too many games out there that I haven't played yet to waste my time banging my head against a brick wall.

I dont consider dying a bazillion times until I finally get lucky and beat the level fun at all.

argetlam00

Hum...

So you didn't play that far...

...yet you somehow make statements that the only way to beat this game is to bang your head against the wall and die before it finally works...because there is nothing else to do in this game other than dying. Don't you think it's a pretty vague and pretentious statement?

You base your hatred of the game on lack of a online system the way you want, because you made an image of this game that it's so hard that it's not worth it to play it alone (not quite as hardcore as you think really, most Souls fans will tell you that the difficulty is exaggerated).

If I were you, I would stop making assumptions about the game or its fanbase and just goddamn play it, it would be childish otherwise. This entitlement thing with co-op as justification seems a bit weak when going to labeling the game as "masochistic garbage".

Dark souls is downright amazing IMO but I can see why people are cowards for not liking that glorious masterpiece for real gamerz. BTW I didn't play far into it.

(That was a parody statement. I do not think like this and do not like people who do so.)

All the reviews I read have told me the game is extremely difficult and requires a ton of trial an error. A friend I have that owned Demon Souls (not dark souls though) told me his experience was just trial and error until he finally won. He got sick of the game pretty fast. Many people that played the game on the forums also have stated the same opinion. WHy should I not believe them? I have no desire to play an extremely difficult game and be frustrated with it. Especially when it is designed not to be fun. I had someone tell me that the justification behind the god awful coop in this game is that the developers wanted it to be harder so you cant "blast through" the game with your friends. Are you kidding me? How is it in any way fun to play the game with random people and look at bloody trails all day than solve the games challenges with your friends? You know the main purpose of a game is to be fun right? Trial and error is not fun and I'm afraid your opinion doesn't beat the opinions of the many people that told me the game is nothing more than a frustrating trial and error experience.

I guarantee you that the game would have sold far better if they had created a proper coop system and actually designed the game to be fun instead of always putting difficulty first. As long as they continue to do that and maintain their trash coop ill continue ignoring their games.

I was also bummed in 2009 when I got Demon's Souls after learning about how there is no "matchmaking" or "invite friend party system" about the co-op. However after playing the game for a while I got over it, because I realized that a big part of the thrill I had was in the atmosphere, in exploring a dangerous world where I can die if I was careless for a single second. When I did summon people or has been summoned, I often felt that it was a much shorter and cheaper experience, one where everyone was pressed to beat the boss, and that a lot of the feelings the developers wanted you to feel through the design was missed, all you do after summoning a few guys was to pick up items everywhere in a hurry to catch up to them. My experience has lead me to think that these games were not designed to be played co-op, there aren't hordes of enemies that spawn everywhere requiring different skills from different builds or a boss that can only be beaten with a strategy with multiple players or different switches. What is in these games is a world where you are a tiny, desperate, fragile and insignificant being trying to take on everything it has to offer. The messaging system and the bloodstains work to aid you in your adventure. The blue/white phantoms are there if you A) are too scared to progress or B) cannot kill the boss by yourself or C) you get invaded and want help. There is no reason in which you cannot complete the game in off-line mode, and if you do everything online you will most likely not have the experience that the devs intended you to have. I'll say this again: The gaming journalists have made this game sound way harder than it actually is. The fans of these games will agree with you on the most part. As for trial and error, not really, it's more about exploring and learning from your mistakes. It'll certainly feel like trial and error if you rush into unfamiliar territory, get owned and try again with a nice cup of rage, so I don't blame your friend on that one. I'm not telling you to bend over to my grand wisdom, but you do make a lot of strong statements for someone who never gave the game a chance, backing off just because you can't play with your friends. (Note that I absolutely have nothing but criticism about Namco's P2P servers, the MP can be a lot better and I hope the patches do their thing)
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#115 parkurtommo
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I think The Witcher 2 was better than Dark Souls. SAGE_OF_FIRE
That's your opinion my opinion, is that dark souls was better than witcher 2, not that I've even played witcher 2, have you played dark souls?
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[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]I think The Witcher 2 was better than Dark Souls. parkurtommo
That's your opinion my opinion, is that dark souls was better than witcher 2, not that I've even played witcher 2, have you played dark souls?

The opinion was implied when Sage said "I think..." :?

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#117 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="RavenLoud"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

Where did I insult anyone again? I insulted Gears 3 cause its a dreadful shooter just like all the other console shooters.

argetlam00

Whatever, you know what you did. You got the word elitist slapped all over your head. Note that I don't disagree with the quality of Geow3 personally. PS: Please stop overhyping the difficulty of Dark Souls. Out of curiosity, how far did you play to?

I didn't get to far lets say that. I returned the game immediately after I found out that I could not play coop with my friends, which is the very reason I bought it. They made this game unfun. How is it fun to play with random people instead of your friends? Whats wrong wtih solving the games challenges with your friends? Why would they not implement such basic and simple features like invite coop and VOIP in this game? There are way too many games out there that I haven't played yet to waste my time banging my head against a brick wall.

I dont consider dying a bazillion times until I finally get lucky and beat the level fun at all.

HAHAHAHAAH omgawd You know, it's very easy to play with friends in dark souls, works for me at least. :lol: :lol: Can't believe you sold it :lol:
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#118 RavenLoud
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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="RavenLoud"] Whatever, you know what you did. You got the word elitist slapped all over your head. Note that I don't disagree with the quality of Geow3 personally. PS: Please stop overhyping the difficulty of Dark Souls. Out of curiosity, how far did you play to?parkurtommo

I didn't get to far lets say that. I returned the game immediately after I found out that I could not play coop with my friends, which is the very reason I bought it. They made this game unfun. How is it fun to play with random people instead of your friends? Whats wrong wtih solving the games challenges with your friends? Why would they not implement such basic and simple features like invite coop and VOIP in this game? There are way too many games out there that I haven't played yet to waste my time banging my head against a brick wall.

I dont consider dying a bazillion times until I finally get lucky and beat the level fun at all.

HAHAHAHAAH omgawd You know, it's very easy to play with friends in dark souls, works for me at least. :lol: :lol: Can't believe you sold it :lol:

Actually you'd have to be pretty lucky, there are different lobbies of P2P compared to the dedicated servers of Demon's Souls. So every time you log on you'll have to cross your fingers and hope that you get into a lobby around your level or with your friends.
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Actually you'd have to be pretty lucky, there are different lobbies of P2P compared to the dedicated servers of Demon's Souls. So every time you log on you'll have to cross your fingers and hope that you get into a lobby around your level or with your friends.RavenLoud

Yep, exactly. When my brother and I would try, it would take over an hour, and even then we couldn't get in. You have to just keep re-entering your game in the hope that you get the same server.

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#120 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="RavenLoud"]

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

I didn't get to far lets say that. I returned the game immediately after I found out that I could not play coop with my friends, which is the very reason I bought it. They made this game unfun. How is it fun to play with random people instead of your friends? Whats wrong wtih solving the games challenges with your friends? Why would they not implement such basic and simple features like invite coop and VOIP in this game? There are way too many games out there that I haven't played yet to waste my time banging my head against a brick wall.

I dont consider dying a bazillion times until I finally get lucky and beat the level fun at all.

argetlam00

Hum...

So you didn't play that far...

...yet you somehow make statements that the only way to beat this game is to bang your head against the wall and die before it finally works...because there is nothing else to do in this game other than dying. Don't you think it's a pretty vague and pretentious statement?

You base your hatred of the game on lack of a online system the way you want, because you made an image of this game that it's so hard that it's not worth it to play it alone (not quite as hardcore as you think really, most Souls fans will tell you that the difficulty is exaggerated).

If I were you, I would stop making assumptions about the game or its fanbase and just goddamn play it, it would be childish otherwise. This entitlement thing with co-op as justification seems a bit weak when going to labeling the game as "masochistic garbage".

Dark souls is downright amazing IMO but I can see why people are cowards for not liking that glorious masterpiece for real gamerz. BTW I didn't play far into it.

(That was a parody statement. I do not think like this and do not like people who do so.)

All the reviews I read have told me the game is extremely difficult and requires a ton of trial an error. A friend I have that owned Demon Souls (not dark souls though) told me his experience was just trial and error until he finally won. He got sick of the game pretty fast. Many people that played the game on the forums also have stated the same opinion. WHy should I not believe them? I have no desire to play an extremely difficult game and be frustrated with it. Especially when it is designed not to be fun. I had someone tell me that the justification behind the god awful coop in this game is that the developers wanted it to be harder so you cant "blast through" the game with your friends. Are you kidding me? How is it in any way fun to play the game with random people and look at bloody trails all day than solve the games challenges with your friends? You know the main purpose of a game is to be fun right? Trial and error is not fun and I'm afraid your opinion doesn't beat the opinions of the many people that told me the game is nothing more than a frustrating trial and error experience.

I guarantee you that the game would have sold far better if they had created a proper coop system and actually designed the game to be fun instead of always putting difficulty first. As long as they continue to do that and maintain their trash coop ill continue ignoring their games.

all of it, completely WRONG.

I respect your opinion and I can see where you got it, but it's not like you can just label a game not fun.

I've never had this much fun in my life, just yesterday, I used a spell called the chameleon spell which turns you into a tree in darkroot forest, I then invaded someone and just stood around, watching the invaded walking right past me. This sort of thing defines the pvp in dark souls, outsmart the smartest and you shall proof triumphant.

As for the PVE, it's not that hard, I don't understand where people get that idea, I've died more times in Uncharted games than in this, the only difference is that the checkpoints are more distant.

I can also safely say that anyone who beats this game can tell you, that they had fun. :)

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#121 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

I didn't get to far lets say that. I returned the game immediately after I found out that I could not play coop with my friends, which is the very reason I bought it. They made this game unfun. How is it fun to play with random people instead of your friends? Whats wrong wtih solving the games challenges with your friends? Why would they not implement such basic and simple features like invite coop and VOIP in this game? There are way too many games out there that I haven't played yet to waste my time banging my head against a brick wall.

I dont consider dying a bazillion times until I finally get lucky and beat the level fun at all.

RavenLoud

HAHAHAHAAH omgawd You know, it's very easy to play with friends in dark souls, works for me at least. :lol: :lol: Can't believe you sold it :lol:

Actually you'd have to be pretty lucky, there are different lobbies of P2P compared to the dedicated servers of Demon's Souls. So every time you log on you'll have to cross your fingers and hope that you get into a lobby around your level or with your friends.

I know that, but it's pretty weird how I've come across many of my friends just randomly while being summoned, and I had no intention of meeting them. When it is my intention, we just keep putting the sign down until it appears in my world, and it always does, eventually. It's not as efficient as Demon's Souls but it sure as hell works.

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Either Skyrim, Portal 2, UC3, Gears 3, or skyward sword will get it IMO

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[QUOTE="RavenLoud"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"]HAHAHAHAAH omgawd You know, it's very easy to play with friends in dark souls, works for me at least. :lol: :lol: Can't believe you sold it :lol:parkurtommo

Actually you'd have to be pretty lucky, there are different lobbies of P2P compared to the dedicated servers of Demon's Souls. So every time you log on you'll have to cross your fingers and hope that you get into a lobby around your level or with your friends.

I know that, but it's pretty weird how I've come across many of my friends just randomly while being summoned, and I had no intention of meeting them. When it is my intention, we just keep putting the sign down until it appears in my world, and it always does, eventually. It's not as efficient as Demon's Souls but it sure as hell works.

You lucky bastard :P Are you on the JPN server by chance? They already had the new patch, maybe it helped.
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#124 KevinPlanet
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Dark Souls is also probably the most overrated game this year by Kevin-V (probably of his entire carrer...oh MGS4, nevermind then), i still don't understand how a game with so many technicall flaws (frame drop, glitches, bad animations, etc) can get a 9.5. Don't get me wrong, i really like the game and i think is fantastic, but after seeing Kevin giving a hard time to other games with some of the same issues, is hard to not say that Dark Souls was overrated by him.

madsnakehhh

I like Kevin VanOrd but his score is completely over the curve of review scores given to this game. There was clearly a fanboyish reason why he gave it that score.

Dark Souls is not better than Skyrim

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#125 GD1551
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Dark Souls is also probably the most overrated game this year by Kevin-V (probably of his entire carrer...oh MGS4, nevermind then), i still don't understand how a game with so many technicall flaws (frame drop, glitches, bad animations, etc) can get a 9.5. Don't get me wrong, i really like the game and i think is fantastic, but after seeing Kevin giving a hard time to other games with some of the same issues, is hard to not say that Dark Souls was overrated by him.

KevinPlanet

I like Kevin VanOrd but his score is completely over the curve of review scores given to this game. There was clearly a fanboyish reason why he gave it that score.

Dark Souls is not better than Skyrim

Not even comparing to skyrim, there some really badly designed areas in the game, even beyond the framerate, beyond the bugs, there are some eras like blighttown that just aren't fun.

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#126 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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I bought it, but havent played it yet. So we shall see.

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#127 Demonjoe93
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Let's wait for Skyward Sword's review before he proclaim Dark Souls the best of the year.

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#128 RavenLoud
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[QUOTE="KevinPlanet"]

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Dark Souls is also probably the most overrated game this year by Kevin-V (probably of his entire carrer...oh MGS4, nevermind then), i still don't understand how a game with so many technicall flaws (frame drop, glitches, bad animations, etc) can get a 9.5. Don't get me wrong, i really like the game and i think is fantastic, but after seeing Kevin giving a hard time to other games with some of the same issues, is hard to not say that Dark Souls was overrated by him.

GD1551

I like Kevin VanOrd but his score is completely over the curve of review scores given to this game. There was clearly a fanboyish reason why he gave it that score.

Dark Souls is not better than Skyrim

Not even comparing to skyrim, there some really badly designed areas in the game, even beyond the framerate, beyond the bugs, there are some eras like blighttown that just aren't fun.

I agrew with blightown, but I really don't think you should mention skyrim when picking on other games for "bugs".
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#129 GD1551
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I agrew with blightown, but I really don't think you should mention skyrim when picking on other games for "bugs".RavenLoud

Wait what? I even said "not even comparing to skyrim".

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#130 fadersdream
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="landofcookies"]

Too bad Gears 3 got 9.5, too.

killu-later

Ok, then lets say xbox 360 that gets both is console of the year :) and is settled

PS3 UC3 10/10 IGN >; Geow3 + Dark Souls 9.5/10 Lemspot

He's right and since this is the IGN website..... WHHHHHHAAAAAAAA? wait a minute, no it's not.
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#131 mitu123
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[QUOTE="KevinPlanet"]

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Dark Souls is also probably the most overrated game this year by Kevin-V (probably of his entire carrer...oh MGS4, nevermind then), i still don't understand how a game with so many technicall flaws (frame drop, glitches, bad animations, etc) can get a 9.5. Don't get me wrong, i really like the game and i think is fantastic, but after seeing Kevin giving a hard time to other games with some of the same issues, is hard to not say that Dark Souls was overrated by him.

GD1551

I like Kevin VanOrd but his score is completely over the curve of review scores given to this game. There was clearly a fanboyish reason why he gave it that score.

Dark Souls is not better than Skyrim

Not even comparing to skyrim, there some really badly designed areas in the game, even beyond the framerate, beyond the bugs, there are some eras like blighttown that just aren't fun.

I know that area isn't that fun(just on it last night), but I can't believe I made it past that area, it was hell, thank god I hadIron Rusted Ring to get through the poisonous swamp faster.

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#132 Anterline
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Sure. It appeals to everyone, I can agree with that. However, Skyrim gets my vote this year.
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#133 casharmy
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The score alone doesn't mean it's better than every other game, that's still just one mans opinion, but Dark Souls, for me, however has been the best game I have played this year--occasional framerate drops and all.

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#134 cyclops10
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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="RavenLoud"] Hum...

So you didn't play that far...

...yet you somehow make statements that the only way to beat this game is to bang your head against the wall and die before it finally works...because there is nothing else to do in this game other than dying. Don't you think it's a pretty vague and pretentious statement?

You base your hatred of the game on lack of a online system the way you want, because you made an image of this game that it's so hard that it's not worth it to play it alone (not quite as hardcore as you think really, most Souls fans will tell you that the difficulty is exaggerated).

If I were you, I would stop making assumptions about the game or its fanbase and just goddamn play it, it would be childish otherwise. This entitlement thing with co-op as justification seems a bit weak when going to labeling the game as "masochistic garbage".

Dark souls is downright amazing IMO but I can see why people are cowards for not liking that glorious masterpiece for real gamerz. BTW I didn't play far into it.

(That was a parody statement. I do not think like this and do not like people who do so.)

parkurtommo

All the reviews I read have told me the game is extremely difficult and requires a ton of trial an error. A friend I have that owned Demon Souls (not dark souls though) told me his experience was just trial and error until he finally won. He got sick of the game pretty fast. Many people that played the game on the forums also have stated the same opinion. WHy should I not believe them? I have no desire to play an extremely difficult game and be frustrated with it. Especially when it is designed not to be fun. I had someone tell me that the justification behind the god awful coop in this game is that the developers wanted it to be harder so you cant "blast through" the game with your friends. Are you kidding me? How is it in any way fun to play the game with random people and look at bloody trails all day than solve the games challenges with your friends? You know the main purpose of a game is to be fun right? Trial and error is not fun and I'm afraid your opinion doesn't beat the opinions of the many people that told me the game is nothing more than a frustrating trial and error experience.

I guarantee you that the game would have sold far better if they had created a proper coop system and actually designed the game to be fun instead of always putting difficulty first. As long as they continue to do that and maintain their trash coop ill continue ignoring their games.

all of it, completely WRONG.

I respect your opinion and I can see where you got it, but it's not like you can just label a game not fun.

I've never had this much fun in my life, just yesterday, I used a spell called the chameleon spell which turns you into a tree in darkroot forest, I then invaded someone and just stood around, watching the invaded walking right past me. This sort of thing defines the pvp in dark souls, outsmart the smartest and you shall proof triumphant.

As for the PVE, it's not that hard, I don't understand where people get that idea, I've died more times in Uncharted games than in this, the only difference is that the checkpoints are more distant.

I can also safely say that anyone who beats this game can tell you, that they had fun. :)

Wrong. Finished it and it's the most overrated game since RDR. I'm not one of those people who likes to moan about reviews based on hype, but i can't help but feel that way when it comes to Dark Souls. Bland, dated, boring visuals. Basic and repetitive combat, poor level design, poor animation, no story or character or charm at all. The game actually feels like it's 10 years out of date to me and is worth no more than a 6 and is a poorly designed game hidden by it's silly difficult discussion that IMO totally misses the point of gaming. In fact, i'd prob say it's my most overrated game of all time.
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#135 loosingENDS
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Let's wait for Skyward Sword's review before he proclaim Dark Souls the best of the year.

Demonjoe93

Well, best RPG for sure

Also a 10/10 for Wii, is like a 7/10 for HD systems standads due to the far lower graphics

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#136 clone01
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HAHAHAHAAH omgawd You know, it's very easy to play with friends in dark souls, works for me at least. :lol: :lol: Can't believe you sold it :lol:parkurtommo
I've never once been able to play with my friends. Tried for over an hour once. We rebooted our systems quite a few times trying to get matched up on the same server. I'm glad you've had luck with it, but compared to Demon's Souls, the online implementation of Dark Souls has been awful.
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#137 PAL360
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According to gamespot Dark Souls = Gears of War 3 >>> everything this year.

According to me TES V: Skyrim >>>>> everything this gen.

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#138 -ArchAngeL-777-
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Portal 2 is still the best of 2011. It's been lost in the shuffle since it came out in the spring. I'd say Batman Arkham City, but to be honest, I have enjoyed Infamous 2 more than AC. AC is pretty cool, but its a lot more stealth than I care to play. Cole's power set in Infamous 2 are far more fun to mess with and use than Batman's. Still I could see Skyrim or Zelda taking it just because they are fresh in people's minds. Uncharted 3 wasnt as good as Uncharted 2 if you asked me, so that won't get my vote.
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#139 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

Let's wait for Skyward Sword's review before he proclaim Dark Souls the best of the year.

loosingENDS

Well, best RPG for sure

Also a 10/10 for Wii, is like a 7/10 for HD systems standads due to the far lower graphics

No it's not.
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#140 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]HAHAHAHAAH omgawd You know, it's very easy to play with friends in dark souls, works for me at least. :lol: :lol: Can't believe you sold it :lol:clone01
I've never once been able to play with my friends. Tried for over an hour once. We rebooted our systems quite a few times trying to get matched up on the same server. I'm glad you've had luck with it, but compared to Demon's Souls, the online implementation of Dark Souls has been awful.

I've only had a couple phantoms not summon for me, but overall it's been fine. Is there a way you can know if you're on the same server or not?
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#141 peterw007
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Wrong. Finished it and it's the most overrated game since RDR. I'm not one of those people who likes to moan about reviews based on hype, but i can't help but feel that way when it comes to Dark Souls. Bland, dated, boring visuals. Basic and repetitive combat, poor level design, poor animation, no story or character or charm at all. The game actually feels like it's 10 years out of date to me and is worth no more than a 6 and is a poorly designed game hidden by it's silly difficult discussion that IMO totally misses the point of gaming. In fact, i'd prob say it's my most overrated game of all time. cyclops10

The last thing a video game needs is a story to make it fun.

An incredible amount of people on these forums (and in real life) don't play video games for the stories.

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#143 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

All the reviews I read have told me the game is extremely difficult and requires a ton of trial an error. A friend I have that owned Demon Souls (not dark souls though) told me his experience was just trial and error until he finally won. He got sick of the game pretty fast. Many people that played the game on the forums also have stated the same opinion. WHy should I not believe them? I have no desire to play an extremely difficult game and be frustrated with it. Especially when it is designed not to be fun. I had someone tell me that the justification behind the god awful coop in this game is that the developers wanted it to be harder so you cant "blast through" the game with your friends. Are you kidding me? How is it in any way fun to play the game with random people and look at bloody trails all day than solve the games challenges with your friends? You know the main purpose of a game is to be fun right? Trial and error is not fun and I'm afraid your opinion doesn't beat the opinions of the many people that told me the game is nothing more than a frustrating trial and error experience.

I guarantee you that the game would have sold far better if they had created a proper coop system and actually designed the game to be fun instead of always putting difficulty first. As long as they continue to do that and maintain their trash coop ill continue ignoring their games.

cyclops10

all of it, completely WRONG.

I respect your opinion and I can see where you got it, but it's not like you can just label a game not fun.

I've never had this much fun in my life, just yesterday, I used a spell called the chameleon spell which turns you into a tree in darkroot forest, I then invaded someone and just stood around, watching the invaded walking right past me. This sort of thing defines the pvp in dark souls, outsmart the smartest and you shall proof triumphant.

As for the PVE, it's not that hard, I don't understand where people get that idea, I've died more times in Uncharted games than in this, the only difference is that the checkpoints are more distant.

I can also safely say that anyone who beats this game can tell you, that they had fun. :)

Wrong. Finished it and it's the most overrated game since RDR. I'm not one of those people who likes to moan about reviews based on hype, but i can't help but feel that way when it comes to Dark Souls. Bland, dated, boring visuals. Basic and repetitive combat, poor level design, poor animation, no story or character or charm at all. The game actually feels like it's 10 years out of date to me and is worth no more than a 6 and is a poorly designed game hidden by it's silly difficult discussion that IMO totally misses the point of gaming. In fact, i'd prob say it's my most overrated game of all time.

I don't want to change the topic but RDR was not overrated :|
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#144 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]HAHAHAHAAH omgawd You know, it's very easy to play with friends in dark souls, works for me at least. :lol: :lol: Can't believe you sold it :lol:clone01
I've never once been able to play with my friends. Tried for over an hour once. We rebooted our systems quite a few times trying to get matched up on the same server. I'm glad you've had luck with it, but compared to Demon's Souls, the online implementation of Dark Souls has been awful.

You also should have a waited a bit, the patch was announced a long time ago and his been confirmed, it's coming out soon and will fix those problems. In fact I forgot to mention this, the patch will fix a lot of things you haters are complaining about
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#145 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"]HAHAHAHAAH omgawd You know, it's very easy to play with friends in dark souls, works for me at least. :lol: :lol: Can't believe you sold it :lol:Chutebox
I've never once been able to play with my friends. Tried for over an hour once. We rebooted our systems quite a few times trying to get matched up on the same server. I'm glad you've had luck with it, but compared to Demon's Souls, the online implementation of Dark Souls has been awful.

I've only had a couple phantoms not summon for me, but overall it's been fine. Is there a way you can know if you're on the same server or not?

Nah, you just have to call your friend on the phone, have them drop their summon sign in an area, and see if it shows up in your world. And I've been fine with summons, just not with my friends. I really wish Namco Bandai would move to dedicated servers, but I'm sure its an expense issue, so I doubt it'll happen.
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#146 Gamingclone
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LOL not even close.

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#147 clone01
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the patch will fix a lot of things you haters are complaining about parkurtommo
How is pointing out a legitimate shortcoming of the game, particularly when compared to its predecessor, "hating" on it. I like the game quite a bit, actually...I just don't feel like giving it a free pass because its online is inferior to the previous title. I really don't think it should be that much of a process to be able to play co-op with a friend.
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#148 XileLord
Member since 2007 • 3776 Posts

Batman Arkham city

GS: 9.5
Metacritic: 96

Dark souls
GS: 9.5
Metacritic: 89

= Arkham city is the best of 2011 so far

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#149 mitu123
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Batman Arkham city

GS: 9.5
Metacritic: 96

Dark souls
GS: 9.5
Metacritic: 89

= Arkham city is the best of 2011 so far

XileLord

Batman got a 9.0 here dude.

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#150 RavenLoud
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[QUOTE="RavenLoud"]

I agrew with blightown, but I really don't think you should mention skyrim when picking on other games for "bugs".GD1551

Wait what? I even said "not even comparing to skyrim".

Still, it's automatic irony :P Even more so when insinuating that bugs are major and prevents the enjoyment of the game, which is not my general experience with Dark Souls. "...beyond the framerate, beyond the bugs,..."