So far, im not really liking PC gaming.

I reccomend getting the Valve complete pack. It's $100 USD(may go down to $80 for the holidays like it did last year) but comes with a lot of games. It comes with the Half Life series, all CS games, Left 4 Dead, TFC and TF2, Day of Defeat, and Portal. Chances are you'll like atleast one of the games probably more.

thefsmlol

You managed to get two of the buggiest games on PC this year. Are there any other PC games you're looking into?Locke562

I know what you mean I've been trying to get into PC gaming more but I just don't like it as much. The only genres I prefer on the PC are MMOs, RTS, and Sims. I bought both Oblivion and Call of Duty 4 for PC and I just didn't like using the keyboard. The mouse is nice for aiming in FPS but the keyboard can be aggravating cause theirs so many buttons. I actually just re bought Oblivion and CoD4 for the 360.Zero5000X

srsly PC oblivion IS HUGELY superior to 360 oblivion. i do have a 360 btw. but with oblivion all your content= free also you get extra player made content free

and finally better graphics

Never had a issue with Fallout 3. It only crashed two times or whatever, but i save game frequently.

GTA 4 on the other hand is just a pretty bad port it's not even funny.

My point is, leaning is already a solved problem. Console FPS don't need lean buttons because a better solution already exists. P

lowe0

And no...cover system isn't better solution than leaning.

To put it another way - what does a lean key allow you to do that a cover system does not?

lowe0

So after all this talk about the PC gaming being superior to console gaming, I decided to pick up a nice computer and two games (GTAIV, Fallout 3).

Logan832

there are always fixes or ways around problems. a quick internet search should find plenty of possible solutions to your problem.

the only game i have had any sort of issues with what so ever in the last few years is gta iv and that was because i had a problem with my .netframework. once that was updated it has run perfectly well. when you tweak the graphic settings (and realise no matter how good your rig is you're not likely to get even close to maxing it - a hard pill to swallow for most pc gamers ;) ) the game runs and looks fantatstic

After installing Fallout 3 I can play the game for around a minute before it decides to just crash. My computer can run it just fine, as the game reccomended I play on High settings.

Logan832

So after all this talk about the PC gaming being superior to console gaming, I decided to pick up a nice computer and two games (GTAIV, Fallout 3). I hooked it up and tried to install and play both games, but ive yet to have the oppurtunity to play either. After installing Fallout 3 I can play the game for around a minute before it decides to just crash. My computer can run it just fine, as the game reccomended I play on High settings.

GTAIV.... Is just a horrible mess to simply start playing. Im still trying to get through this process. I believe its just the whole games for windows LIVE situation thats ruining my gaming experience, and it appears im not the only one having problems with GTAIV for the PC (reading an article posted on N4G). Im not giving up on it, but as of now I really don't care how much better games look on the PC. The simplicity to pick up and play a game for the consoles is definently a benefit.

Logan832

Step 1: Download Steam

Step 2: Buy The VALVE COMPLETE PACK

Step 3: Buy Crysis (and Warhead if desired)

Step 4: Buy Titan Quest and expansion

Step 5: Buy Medieval 2: Total War

Step 6: Enjoy thousands of hours of enjoyment

Might even want to give an MMO a try, they have free trials for all of them.

mrbojangles25

Fixed it for you

http://store.steampowered.com/sub/1134/

This thing is godly.

Counter-Strike, Counter-Strike: Condition Zero, Counter-Strike: Source, Day of Defeat, Day of Defeat: Source, Deathmatch ****c, Half-Life, Half-Life 2, Half-Life 2: Deathmatch, Half-Life 2: Episode One, Half-Life 2: Episode Two, Half-Life 2: Lost Coast, Half-Life Deathmatch: Source, Half-Life: Blue Shift, Half-Life: Opposing Force, Half-Life: Source, Left 4 Dead, Peggle Extreme, Portal, Ricochet, Team Fortress 2, Team Fortress ****c

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

Step 1: Download Steam

Step 2: Buy The VALVE COMPLETE PACK

Step 3: Buy Crysis (and Warhead if desired)

Step 4: Buy Titan Quest and expansion

Step 5: Buy Medieval 2: Total War

Step 6: Enjoy thousands of hours of enjoyment

Might even want to give an MMO a try, they have free trials for all of them.

Guybrush_3

Fixed it for you

http://store.steampowered.com/sub/1134/

This thing is godly.

Counter-Strike, Counter-Strike: Condition Zero, Counter-Strike: Source, Day of Defeat, Day of Defeat: Source, Deathmatch ****c, Half-Life, Half-Life 2, Half-Life 2: Deathmatch, Half-Life 2: Episode One, Half-Life 2: Episode Two, Half-Life 2: Lost Coast, Half-Life Deathmatch: Source, Half-Life: Blue Shift, Half-Life: Opposing Force, Half-Life: Source, Left 4 Dead, Peggle Extreme, Portal, Ricochet, Team Fortress 2, Team Fortress ****c

We're all waiting for PC gaming to die, all these PC boys ever do is come in here and brag about there great graphics.

What they don't tell you is how much they had to spend to achieve these great graphics, and if you want the comfort of sitting back in front of a big screen LCD and playing wirelessly like on a console, then you have to spend even more money with a PC.

It's not worth it, the graphical difference is not that noticeable between 360, PS3 to PC.

Let's not forget the constant upgrades and updates PC's require, as well as installation time.

I went to a computer show not too long ago and they had a couple of Alienware gaming rigs there and the cheapest one was over $2000 and the most expensive one was over $8000, funny part is neither one included a big LCD screen or a wireless controller.

The $2000 model didn't even come with wireless keyboard and mouse, it's a rip off.

Go ahead i challenge any PC boy to find a PC with the exact specs equal to the PS3 for $500 bucks the pricier of the 2 PS3's on the market.

Please Die already PC gaming.

We're all waiting for PC gaming to die, all these PC boys ever do is come in here and brag about there great graphics.

What they don't tell you is how much they had to spend to achieve these great graphics, and if you want the comfort of sitting back in front of a big screen LCD and playing wirelessly like on a console, then you have to spend even more money with a PC.

It's not worth it, the graphical difference is not that noticeable between 360, PS3 to PC.

Let's not forget the constant upgrades and updates PC's require, as well as installation time.

I went to a computer show not too long ago and they had a couple of Alienware gaming rigs there and the cheapest one was over $2000 and the most expensive one was over $8000, funny part is neither one included a big LCD screen or a wireless controller.

The $2000 model didn't even come with wireless keyboard and mouse, it's a rip off.

Go ahead i challenge any PC boy to find a PC with the exact specs equal to the PS3 for $500 bucks the pricier of the 2 PS3's on the market.

Please Die already PC gaming.

PS3nut

And by the way, it's easy to find a PC with PS3-equivalent hardware for that price. Or a third of that price, more likely. It's called a 3-year-old midrange computer. Though it certainly wouldn't run games at the same quality or framerate a PS3 would, because the PS3 is a very specific, uniform piece of kit, allowing optimisation. If you got a developer and told them to optimise for THAT exact PC's set-up, however, you'd get a game that ran just as well as on the PS3.

We're all waiting for PC gaming to die, all these PC boys ever do is come in here and brag about there great graphics.

What they don't tell you is how much they had to spend to achieve these great graphics, and if you want the comfort of sitting back in front of a big screen LCD and playing wirelessly like on a console, then you have to spend even more money with a PC.

It's not worth it, the graphical difference is not that noticeable between 360, PS3 to PC.

Let's not forget the constant upgrades and updates PC's require, as well as installation time.

I went to a computer show not too long ago and they had a couple of Alienware gaming rigs there and the cheapest one was over $2000 and the most expensive one was over $8000, funny part is neither one included a big LCD screen or a wireless controller.

The $2000 model didn't even come with wireless keyboard and mouse, it's a rip off.

Go ahead i challenge any PC boy to find a PC with the exact specs equal to the PS3 for $500 bucks the pricier of the 2 PS3's on the market.

Please Die already PC gaming.

PS3nut

Please Die already PC gaming.

PS3nut

With all due respect for your hardcore fanboyism - I'm a die-hard PC gamer, and I surely don't want any console to die-off. People have a choice - PC gaming is a choice just like console gaming.

I mean, man, this is just plain stupid.

Please Die already PC gaming.

PS3nut

It really sounds as if you are doing something wrong. I have never experianced any of those problems with my computer that I built with any game ever, and I had Vista in its first few months.Wasdie

[QUOTE="PS3nut"]

Please Die already PC gaming.

IgGy621985

With all due respect for your hardcore fanboyism - I'm a die-hard PC gamer, and I surely don't want any console to die-off. People have a choice - PC gaming is a choice just like console gaming.

I mean, man, this is just plain stupid.

We're all waiting for PC gaming to die, all these PC boys ever do is come in here and brag about there great graphics.

And yet we see countless PS3 vs 360 graphics thread where 1 goes on about how MGS4 or Killzone 2 trumps the 360 or how Gears of war 2 demolishes anything the PS3 has. In addition, multiplat games are compared where the graphical difference is minisicule, it's pathetic.

What they don't tell you is how much they had to spend to achieve these great graphics, and if you want the comfort of sitting back in front of a big screen LCD and playing wirelessly like on a console, then you have to spend even more money with a PC.

I prefer sitting in a chair with my back straight and with the screen being small enough for my eyes. I find this more comfortable but it is of course preference.

You can hook up your LCD and your controller to a PC so...

It's not worth it, the graphical difference is not that noticeable between 360, PS3 to PC.

No. You are wrong. Very very wrong.

2 things. Multiplats 99% of the time look better on PC. Crysis. That is all.

Let's not forget the constant upgrades and updates PC's require, as well as installation time.

For MGS4, I had to wait through 2-3 minutes installation of each section of the game. All while looking at Solid snake smoke. Not bad right? But even when I had already beat the game once, and was on my second playthrough, I had to install yet ANOTHER time. PC is just 1 time installation and that's it.

Constant upgrades and updates? Both are optional. Patches however, make the game better (usually) and most consoles have system updates and are recieving patches too.

I went to a computer show not too long ago and they had a couple of Alienware gaming rigs there and the cheapest one was over $2000 and the most expensive one was over $8000, funny part is neither one included a big LCD screen or a wireless controller.

Alienware is notorious for overpriced computers. Building your own computer is definitely cheaper.

The $2000 model didn't even come with wireless keyboard and mouse, it's a rip off.

My ps3 didn't come with an hdtv.

Go ahead i challenge any PC boy to find a PC with the exact specs equal to the PS3 for $500 bucks the pricier of the 2 PS3's on the market.

Please Die already PC gaming.

No. Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, Dawn of war 2, and Empire total war are all exclusive on PC. Great games that will be played for years. Same can not be said for console games.

PS3nut

[QUOTE="PS3nut"]

We're all waiting for PC gaming to die, all these PC boys ever do is come in here and brag about there great graphics.

What they don't tell you is how much they had to spend to achieve these great graphics, and if you want the comfort of sitting back in front of a big screen LCD and playing wirelessly like on a console, then you have to spend even more money with a PC.

It's not worth it, the graphical difference is not that noticeable between 360, PS3 to PC.

Let's not forget the constant upgrades and updates PC's require, as well as installation time.

I went to a computer show not too long ago and they had a couple of Alienware gaming rigs there and the cheapest one was over $2000 and the most expensive one was over $8000, funny part is neither one included a big LCD screen or a wireless controller.

The $2000 model didn't even come with wireless keyboard and mouse, it's a rip off.

Go ahead i challenge any PC boy to find a PC with the exact specs equal to the PS3 for $500 bucks the pricier of the 2 PS3's on the market.

Please Die already PC gaming.

thefsmlol

Alienwares are horrible buys anyway. Installation is a good thing. You don't have to put the disk in again and there is faster loading times. You're going to pay a premium for high end hardware. If you can't afford it or don't want to pay it that's fine but if you love to be up to date it's worth it. And, if you're serious about gaming you'll use a wired mouse at a desk. You won't ever run out of batteries in game, wireless can mess up so you lose control, and it is much easier to play a game with a mouse at a desk(for most genres).

[QUOTE="IgGy621985"][QUOTE="PS3nut"]

Please Die already PC gaming.

PS3nut

With all due respect for your hardcore fanboyism - I'm a die-hard PC gamer, and I surely don't want any console to die-off. People have a choice - PC gaming is a choice just like console gaming.

I mean, man, this is just plain stupid.

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]I know what you mean I've been trying to get into PC gaming more but I just don't like it as much. The only genres I prefer on the PC are MMOs, RTS, and Sims. I bought both Oblivion and Call of Duty 4 for PC and I just didn't like using the keyboard. The mouse is nice for aiming in FPS but the keyboard can be aggravating cause theirs so many buttons. I actually just re bought Oblivion and CoD4 for the 360.xBarcadiax

srsly PC oblivion IS HUGELY superior to 360 oblivion. i do have a 360 btw. but with oblivion all your content= free also you get extra player made content free

and finally better graphics

First of all it's not " Hardcore Fanboyism " to prefer consoles over PC'sPS3nut

Of course not. But it IS hardcore fanboyism to say "Please hurry up and die PC gaming.":|

Yeah, Pc gaimng just aint for you, and that's okay. But to wish it were dead, just because you don't like it? Dude, seriously?

[QUOTE="PS3nut"]First of all it's not " Hardcore Fanboyism " to prefer consoles over PC'sorganic_machine

Of course not. But it IS hardcore fanboyism to say "Please hurry up and die PC gaming.":|

Yeah, Pc gaimng just aint for you, and that's okay. But to wish it were dead, just because you don't like it? Dude, seriously?

when i get pissed with somthing I wish it death too.

in fact i believe that if PC gaming died tomorrow console gaming would thrive even more because those former PC gamers would not be left much choice but to come over to console gaming....but hey look to each his own. PS3nut

Well most of the PC gamers already have consoles but for some crazy reason of their own, they prefer PC gaming more. The same situation is with console players who own gaming PCs.

Again, choice - one of life's most belovable "features". Why would you want to take choice from people by killing something you dislike?

Sure, in some dark corners you'll find some crazy dudes who bash on console gaming like nuts, and vice versa. But that doesn't mean ALL PC gamers are like that. Heck, I'm not like that. Of course, I hate when some multiplat gets ported like crap onto PC and, dunno, forcing me to use controller instead kb/mouse, and that's when I really HATE console gaming, but I surely don't want console gaming dead. In fact, it's my own fault I bougt that piece of crap game.

At the end of the day, Alienware has it's own customer base. They know what's their public - HARDCORE. I mean, I, a die-hard PC gamer would never buy a Alienware PC. Why? Because it's a) WAY too expensive; b) most of the price goes for the brand; c) I can build a cheap-arse monster by myself.
Okay, sure, PC gaming has many flaws. Way too many different hardware setups etc, but it's gonna get sorted-out. In the end, with all of this bull PC gaming offers, the main reason PC gamers love PC gaming is - choice. It's an open platform, do whatever you want with it. It's your risk, it's your choice.

other then looking a bit better (all things look good now days) having Superior fps controls and having mmo games does the pc have really anything better then consolesPrinceofSarcasm

when i get pissed with somthing I wish it death too.

PrinceofSarcasm