So Forza 2 is really that bad.

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#1 BioEffect
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Wow I cant believe it flopped so hard on the demo.  I dont even wanna DL it.  I heard it looks like crap and makes your eyes bleed?  wow I guess I have to wait another 5 months to get a good game to play.

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Coming from a non racing fan I think is a pretty good game, and no the visuals arnt THAT bad.  I mean yes the visuals may not be the best but they arnt bad.
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#3 martin_f
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It seems everybody agrees its flopped.
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#4 Mudig
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Wow I cant believe it flopped so hard on the demo. I dont even wanna DL it. I heard it looks like crap and makes your eyes bleed? wow I guess I have to wait another 5 months to get a good game to play.

BioEffect

Get DIRT, pass on this one. I mean, it might be a good buy if don't own the first Forza. 

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#5 e20Dylan
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i played it on my 60 inch 1080p tv and it looks bad. gameplay was alright physics and such.. basically a forza1 upgrade. this game is like forza 1.5 lol

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#6 spinecaton
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You refuse to play it, and then you go on to say that it isn't good? Your logic is quite flawed. Play it before you bash it
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#7 AdolescentDon
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I actually loved the Demo and I don't see why everyone is making so much fuss about the Graphics, they are fine imo.

I enjoyed it.

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#8 BioEffect
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You refuse to play it, and then you go on to say that it isn't good? Your logic is quite flawed. Play it before you bash itspinecaton

to be honest I trust the people who post in here. 

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#10 Sully28
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I actually loved the Demo and I don't see why everyone is making so much fuss about the Graphics, they are fine imo.

I enjoyed it.

AdolescentDon

Its because the game was hyped to be best racing sim. I suggest everyone waits for the actual game to come out before destroying it.

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#11 Darthmatt
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since when are demos getting rated? Man, if this is the way people are acting, gaming is doomed.
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#12 BioEffect
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since when are demos getting rated? Man, if this is the way people are acting, gaming is doomed.Darthmatt

Whats really gonna improve?  I mean it is what it is.  Kinda upset and wanna cry, I wanted to say I PWNED you to people on this but nah I just cry.

 

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#13 spinecaton
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[QUOTE="spinecaton"]You refuse to play it, and then you go on to say that it isn't good? Your logic is quite flawed. Play it before you bash itBioEffect

to be honest I trust the people who post in here.

 

Why not take 10 minutes out of your schedule to download a free demo to make your own judgements? Everything in the game is top notch except the graphics. 

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#14 elcoholic
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Not bad, just seriously overhyped. The handling is nothing spectacular, its ok but not revolutionary. The damage model is very overhyped since i can crash at 100mph and keep driving with a few scratches (not even dents). And the graphics, well see the other threads. I predict 8,5 at most (but you never know with GS).
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#15 Darthmatt
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[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]since when are demos getting rated? Man, if this is the way people are acting, gaming is doomed.BioEffect

Whats really gonna improve? I mean it is what it is. Kinda upset and wanna cry, I wanted to say I PWNED you to people on this but nah I just cry.

 

Ok, I havent seen the demo yet. But being a demo, its probably missing most of the bells and wistles that might make it a good game. You never know untill you play the final procuct. I mean remeber how much positive hype there was over the motorstorm demo? And look how that turned out.
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#16 elcoholic
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since when are demos getting rated? Man, if this is the way people are acting, gaming is doomed.Darthmatt

Give me an example of a 360 game that had serious changes made within 1 month of the demo? Most demo's represented the final game.

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#18 Mudig
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[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]since when are demos getting rated? Man, if this is the way people are acting, gaming is doomed.elcoholic

Give me an example of a 360 game that had serious changes made within 1 month of the demo? Most demo's represented the final game.

Don't want to defend Forza and I know it's not a 360 game, but the demo appeared to be nothing like the final game. Doubt it will be like that this time around though. 

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#19 Gaara79
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No it isn't. People just had unrealistic expectations regarding the graphics.

I didn't have those expectations and it looks fine to me. Not to mention it's a demo. I remember the Demo from the 1st Forza. it looked so much worse then the final game.

So until the final game is out we wont know what the final game will really look like.

 

 

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#20 spinecaton
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[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]since when are demos getting rated? Man, if this is the way people are acting, gaming is doomed.elcoholic

Give me an example of a 360 game that had serious changes made within 1 month of the demo? Most demo's represented the final game.

Give me information where it shows that the demo was finished yesterday and not earlier. You don't know when they started working on the demo. It isn't like they just looked at the final game yesterday and said "Oh yes, I feel like releasing a demo. Lets use these cars and this track!" 

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[QUOTE="spinecaton"]You refuse to play it, and then you go on to say that it isn't good? Your logic is quite flawed. Play it before you bash itBioEffect

to be honest I trust the people who post in here.

And that right there is why you fail at life. 

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#22 SDog624
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read the topic on the general games discussion board. people over there say its awesome, and this is system wars so who should i believe....:roll:
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#23 NickyJD
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[QUOTE="AdolescentDon"]

I actually loved the Demo and I don't see why everyone is making so much fuss about the Graphics, they are fine imo.

I enjoyed it.

Sully28

Its because the game was hyped to be best racing sim. I suggest everyone waits for the actual game to come out before destroying it.

It is the best racing sim, and these graphics aren't bad by a country mile.

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#24 skyform
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Nope it's not bad it's fantastic but that's my opinion and btw im playing racing games like GTR2, F1 Challenge, rFactor and so on if that says something to you..
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#25 tmatte
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But it actually plays good. :|
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#26 Dreams-Visions
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Wow I cant believe it flopped so hard on the demo. I dont even wanna DL it. I heard it looks like crap and makes your eyes bleed? wow I guess I have to wait another 5 months to get a good game to play.

BioEffect

don't listen to them.  this game is AAA stuff. 

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#27 turgore
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The graphics are good , not the best but good. It's a pleasure to watch the replays which look great !
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#28 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="spinecaton"]You refuse to play it, and then you go on to say that it isn't good? Your logic is quite flawed. Play it before you bash itBioEffect

to be honest I trust the people who post in here.

you should be more selective in who you allow to influence you. 

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#29 gamer4life85
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If you like how PGR3 looks you like Forza 2 cause it looks better than PGR3. Forza 2 is all about custmization and getting the physics down and which Forza 2 does.
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#30 BioEffect
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[QUOTE="BioEffect"]

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]You refuse to play it, and then you go on to say that it isn't good? Your logic is quite flawed. Play it before you bash itjustforlotr2004

to be honest I trust the people who post in here.

And that right there is why you fail at life. 

When you have a house and a good job like I do I dont think a message forum would be an indication of my life failing.  Since you think so, I guess I can say best of luck trying to get where I am at.  Good luck kiddo, its gonna take hard work for you I can see this already.

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#31 BioEffect
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[QUOTE="BioEffect"]

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]You refuse to play it, and then you go on to say that it isn't good? Your logic is quite flawed. Play it before you bash itDreams-Visions

to be honest I trust the people who post in here.

you should be more selective in who you allow to influence you. 

I read your thread and I hope your right.  Im DLing as we speak.

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Forza 2 is a huge flop. The graphics were being hyped out of this world when the first photos came out.  Now the game looks horrid.  GT HD, which is just GT4 in HD pawns the graphics of this game.  Just wait till GT5 comes out.  You will be saying Forza 2 what.  If you want a real racing game to play on your 360 wait for Dirt to come out.  Till then I will be playing Motorstorm.
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[QUOTE="BioEffect"]

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]You refuse to play it, and then you go on to say that it isn't good? Your logic is quite flawed. Play it before you bash itDreams-Visions

to be honest I trust the people who post in here.

you should be more selective in who you allow to influence you.

what movie is ur sig of 

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#34 sirk1264
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I'm really getting tired of the fanboyism and people saying forza is **** because of the graphics. Quite frankly people are trying to make it seem like this game has Forza 1 graphics and it really looks a whole lot better than Forza 1. This game has better gameplay than any racing game out there i kid you not. The graphics are next gen to me and do look a whole lot better than PGR3 for anyone that wants to know. This game is all about physics, AI, gameplay, and graphics. Graphics imo can come last in this game. You guys can go ahead and praise a tech demo with static backgrounds and one car on the track at a time. I'll go ahead and play an actual racing game.

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Forza 2 is a huge flop. The graphics were being hyped out of this world when the first photos came out.  Now the game looks horrid.  GT HD, which is just GT4 in HD pawns the graphics of this game.  Just wait till GT5 comes out.  You will be saying Forza 2 what.  If you want a real racing game to play on your 360 wait for Dirt to come out.  Till then I will be playing Motorstorm.tmac2gooden

 

awesome motorstorm picture.

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The demo is fantastic, with all the aids off, the physics are top notch.  The AI has been very realistic, with mistakes from some of the cars, and on the fly adjustments. 

The graphics were just like the trailers which were very good, but I did notice a few jaggiez on the car models.  The enviorments were great and the game ran silky smooth.  Overall, I would give the graphics a 8.5, definately the best next gen graphics car game on the 360, but the graphics aren't gonna blow your socks off.

This game is an absolute must have for all car sim lovers, and hopefully the kiddies don't like it so my online is only that much better.

Overall Demo score for me.

Gameplay 10

Graphics 8

Sound 9

Value 10

Tilt 10

Score 9.4

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#37 Evo310whp
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It seems everybody agrees its flopped.martin_f

lol well that sucks. I am glad I got C&C 3 I was actually going to get this game instead. Does the gameplay suck too?

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#38 SunLord592
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i played the game for like an hour straight and loved it. the damaging is very cool. the game is very challenging also with everything off like ABS, and was a blast. i dont know why people are whining so muhc. like really you ppl have way to high expectations, as if everything has to be perfect. and for heavens sake downlaod it yours self wont take you more then 20 min to download and try it out your self.
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Forza 2 is a huge flop. The graphics were being hyped out of this world when the first photos came out.  Now the game looks horrid.  GT HD, which is just GT4 in HD pawns the graphics of this game.  Just wait till GT5 comes out.  You will be saying Forza 2 what.  If you want a real racing game to play on your 360 wait for Dirt to come out.  Till then I will be playing Motorstorm.tmac2gooden

You talk about real racing games then you mention motorstorm seriously stop posting. I will admit this is some bad news but personally I was hyping forza's gameplay which I think is way better than GT if it is still good in that dept this game should be alright.

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#40 AgentVX
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Wow I cant believe it flopped so hard on the demo.  I dont even wanna DL it.  I heard it looks like crap and makes your eyes bleed?  wow I guess I have to wait another 5 months to get a good game to play.

BioEffect

LOL, it's people like you that us Forza diehards don't want you to play this game.  Really, the graphics are fine, as I mentioned they aren't gonna blow your socks off, but they are very good.

Really, immature people will not like a racing sim, and that's the way we like it.  And that's why I will be playing this game the most on my 360.

I gave it a 9.4, and I predict the GS gives it a 9 to 9.1.  Whether all the fanboys calling it crap means nothing, as it is AAA material, and they really have a hate on that the next AAA title is coming to us.

So don't let the screen door hit your azz on the way out.

 

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[QUOTE="tmac2gooden"]Forza 2 is a huge flop. The graphics were being hyped out of this world when the first photos came out.  Now the game looks horrid.  GT HD, which is just GT4 in HD pawns the graphics of this game.  Just wait till GT5 comes out.  You will be saying Forza 2 what.  If you want a real racing game to play on your 360 wait for Dirt to come out.  Till then I will be playing Motorstorm.Evo310whp

You talk about real racing games then you mention motorstorm seriously stop posting. I will admit this is some bad news but personally I was hyping forza's gameplay which I think is way better than GT if it is still good in that dept this game should be alright.

motorstorm is fun as hell what are you talking about

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="BioEffect"]

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]You refuse to play it, and then you go on to say that it isn't good? Your logic is quite flawed. Play it before you bash itSome_Republican

to be honest I trust the people who post in here.

you should be more selective in who you allow to influence you.

what movie is ur sig of

Strangers with Candy, Season 3. 

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The demo is fantastic, with all the aids off, the physics are top notch. The AI has been very realistic, with mistakes from some of the cars, and on the fly adjustments.

The graphics were just like the trailers which were very good, but I did notice a few jaggiez on the car models. The enviorments were great and the game ran silky smooth. Overall, I would give the graphics a 8.5, definately the best next gen graphics car game on the 360, but the graphics aren't gonna blow your socks off.

This game is an absolute must have for all car sim lovers, and hopefully the kiddies don't like it so my online is only that much better.

Overall Demo score for me.

Gameplay 10

Graphics 8

Sound 9

Value 10

Tilt 10

Score 9.4

AgentVX

My scoring is also similar to yours.  but I have the sound at a 10 (surround sound + sub FTW)...I also think that either the value or tilt will score a 9.  maybe both.  but they could both be 10's if the auction features and online play are great. 

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People who understand racing sims know how good Forza 2 is, that's why I'm going to laugh when it scores around 93% here on Gamespot. It will silence the haters.
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#45 Evo310whp
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[QUOTE="Evo310whp"]

[QUOTE="tmac2gooden"]Forza 2 is a huge flop. The graphics were being hyped out of this world when the first photos came out.  Now the game looks horrid.  GT HD, which is just GT4 in HD pawns the graphics of this game.  Just wait till GT5 comes out.  You will be saying Forza 2 what.  If you want a real racing game to play on your 360 wait for Dirt to come out.  Till then I will be playing Motorstorm.e20Dylan

You talk about real racing games then you mention motorstorm seriously stop posting. I will admit this is some bad news but personally I was hyping forza's gameplay which I think is way better than GT if it is still good in that dept this game should be alright.

motorstorm is fun as hell what are you talking about

Different opinions. Its fun for like 7mins then you get tired of the wannabe burnout crashes and flatout rag doll effects.

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#46 marklarmer
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People who understand racing sims know how good Forza 2 is, that's why I'm going to laugh when it scores around 93% here on Gamespot. It will silence the haters.NickyJD

My first guess was 92%.

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#47 skyform
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People who understand racing sims know how good Forza 2 is, that's why I'm going to laugh when it scores around 93% here on Gamespot. It will silence the haters.NickyJD

Exactly it's a fantastic game.

I play games like GTR2, rFactor and F1 Challenge and i think that Forza 2 is pretty much on pair with them, awesome demo can't stop playing it. 

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#48 foxhound_fox
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Its because the game was hyped to be best racing sim. I suggest everyone waits for the actual game to come out before destroying it. Sully28


The thing is, a lot of people hyped it for its graphics when the game is based around a complete racing sim package... not just pretty car models.
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#49 tree-branch
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I think it looks good.
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#50 johnusabeis
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[QUOTE="spinecaton"]You refuse to play it, and then you go on to say that it isn't good? Your logic is quite flawed. Play it before you bash itBioEffect

to be honest I trust the people who post in here. 

well theres your problem