So has bluray shown its worth to gaming yet

well

I DEMAND YOU TELL ME YOUR OPINION :evil:

According to Naughty Dog, Konami, Guerilla and other devs, yeah.

Nope. How's that for an opinon?

I think it's been beneficial, though I don't think it will be a necessity until next-gen. Games can still fit on a DVD-9, or even 2 (which is fine).

Faster reading drives will help the next-gen consoles aswell.

MGS4 cant fit on a DVD-9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_69rBtxG1k

;)

Very few games atm need more than 9GB.

Its great for uncompressed audio and CGI (which devs shouldn't be using anymore anyway)

In the future with games like RAGE maybe it will actually have more impact, but atm i don't see how it helps much.

yes and no.

its shown its potential but its hardly used.

for games like FF13, or lost odyssy or GT5 its shown that its the future (or at least that 9gb is too small in the future)

and when you have a **** tech like mega texture that needs all that space yeah it can be helpful.

but it wont see its full potential to next gen with faster drives

What has blu ray done for gaming?

OOnly in as far as you dont need multiple discs for some gamesEmpCom

well it also provides uncompressed audio and such

What has blu ray done for gaming?

ActicEdge

Nothing other than increased space, and that is offset by slow read speeds.

Hopefully, newer drives in the PS4/720 (if they use it) will rectify it.

[QUOTE="EmpCom"]OOnly in as far as you dont need multiple discs for some gamesBlackTragedy

well it also provides uncompressed audio and such

True, but not many are going to notice the difference, nor have the equipment to take advantage of it (much like 7.1 surround).

What did the DVD format do to prove its worth to gaming??

I haven't seen it! But it was never about that! It was about Sony winning the next format war with HDdvd. That is the number 1 reason they put it into the PS3!

The best looking game on the market, Crysis, says no.Shafftehr

does crysis not have to install ?

I haven't seen it! But it was never about that! It was about Sony winning the next format war with HDdvd. That is the number 1 reason they put it into the PS3!

atarigrad

That was definately a large factor, they really wanted to push Blu-Ray.

BR has done nothing and will do nothing for this gen…

Standard HDD's….. that's a different story…

What did the DVD format do to prove its worth to gaming??

GreenGoblin2099

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"]The best looking game on the market, Crysis, says no.BlackTragedy

does crysis not have to install ?

does crysis not have to install ?

BlackTragedy

yes. but fully uncompressed on the HDD its about 6gb. with EVERY asset set. so the point stands

No.

The most powerful system has no games being released on blu-ray, so it's obviously not a requirement for anything.

nope, maybe with the ps4. ps3 cant really handle what devs should be able to do with all the blu ray disc space.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

What has blu ray done for gaming?

lundy86_4

Nothing other than increased space, and that is offset by slow read speeds.

Hopefully, newer drives in the PS4/720 (if they use it) will rectify it.

Yeah, hopefully. Other than that, Blu-Ray hasn't even done any spectacular for gaming. Not to mention that there's about only 1 game that had uncompressed sound, & that was MGS4. If it wasn't for that, then the 360 can very easily handle that game & make it in real HD.

Blu-Ray really wasn't needed for this gen, to be honest, as most titles including downloads (PSN downloads even) can easily fit on a DVD-9 disc.

That was definately a large factor, they really wanted to push Blu-Ray.

lundy86_4

They did indeed, & even though they won the format war over HD-DVD, it costed them most of their PS2 fanbase to Wii & X-Box 360. Plus I remember some dumb people saying that PS3 games will be in Native 1080p thanks to Blu-Ray, just because they thought that it worked for movies. They were certainly wrong about that, though.:lol:

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

What did the DVD format do to prove its worth to gaming??

Shafftehr

Why would you want to hold out on better technology? How has it effected the way we use a medium?...it's exactly the same but 10 times better. It has only made one console more expensive than the rest for a short period of time..This has now made Bluray a well known medium that pretty much everyone, i know, wants to use. Blu ray is the future. Just like Sony did with the CD and the DVD for gaming, blu ray can only do better. Why are you hating it? It's stupid the way you don't want something better now, you want it later.

If DVD was released for the PS1, wouldn't it have been a lot easier on developers that had games that had more than one disc? Final Fantasy, Gran turismo 2..Dude, come on.

Slower read times? It's pretty fine at the moment. The only way it could be better is if there's NO load times..

They did indeed, & even though they won the format war over HD-DVD, it costed them most of their PS2 fanbase to Wii & X-Box 360. Plus I remember some dumb people saying that PS3 games will be in Native 1080p thanks to Blu-Ray, just because they thought that it worked for movies. They were certainly wrong about that, though.:lol:

garland51

Haha, that's pretty damn funny. It makes perfect sense, 1080p movies has to mean 1080p games :P

I dont know Blu-Ray since its incepetion into the market place was a mistake the movies they came out wit were using MPEG-2 instead of the new codec they use for their movies (check out the earlier releases on blu-ray to see the difference between those before and those now) and as others have said the read speeds on those drives suck badly (really sony 1-2x blu-ray drives for games over 12-24x read speeds on standard dvd good choice) the games that have showed they needed the space was metal gear solid 4 and...... yeah when another game that actually uses all the space for a game for good reason let me know cause a 7 min initial install before i can play as snake was a big no-no and then every chapter i gotta wait another 3 mins. for the chapter to install with loading screens was a slap in the face

As if if HDDVD took off, lemmings wouldn't be claiming it was necessary for gaming.

Clearly its beneficial, but not necessary. It has a lot of great features and it's better than DVD. But it's not a necessity.

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"]The best looking game on the market, Crysis, says no.BlackTragedy

does crysis not have to install ?

I think it has shown more of it's worth for movies than anything else.

Edit: and before you all attack me, this was not a jab at MGS4.

well

I DEMAND YOU TELL ME YOUR OPINION :evil:

BlackTragedy

I don't see any games that could only be done on PS3 so no I do not think it has shown it's worth. I think it has potential but it is not needed yet.

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

What did the DVD format do to prove its worth to gaming??

dj_shosh910

Why would you want to hold out on better technology? How has it effected the way we use a medium?...it's exactly the same but 10 times better. It has only made one console more expensive than the rest for a short period of time..This has now made Bluray a well known medium that pretty much everyone, i know, wants to use. Blu ray is the future. Just like Sony did with the CD and the DVD for gaming, blu ray can only do better. Why are you hating it? It's stupid the way you don't want something better now, you want it later.

If DVD was released for the PS1, wouldn't it have been a lot easier on developers that had games that had more than one disc? Final Fantasy, Gran turismo 2..Dude, come on.

Slower read times? It's pretty fine at the moment. The only way it could be better is if there's NO load times..

yes it has. thats why microsoft are adding it as an optional addon for the xbox :) http://gizmodo.com/5387238/ballmer-talks-natal-says-blu+ray-add+on-for-xbox-coming (sorry cbf linking)joel_c17

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As if if HDDVD took off, lemmings wouldn't be claiming it was necessary for gaming.

Clearly its beneficial, but not necessary. It has a lot of great features and it's better than DVD. But it's not a necessity.

hakanakumono

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Generalmojo

MGS4 and Uncharted 2 say "yes."Jared2720

No.

The most powerful system has no games being released on blu-ray, so it's obviously not a requirement for anything.

treedoor

I wouldn't say it's a requirement either, but it definitely helps.

And.......what's the story behind Luigi there, why's he smellin' his finger????:P

yes and no.

its shown its potential but its hardly used.

for games like FF13, or lost odyssy or GT5 its shown that its the future (or at least that 9gb is too small in the future)

and when you have a **** tech like mega texture that needs all that space yeah it can be helpful.

but it wont see its full potential to next gen with faster drives

washd123

[QUOTE="Generalmojo"]

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delta3074

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Generalmojo"]

Snake and Drake say Hi:D

Generalmojo