So how did Demon's Souls win GOTY last year again?

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#51 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] Demon's Souls is a far better game than UC 2. Dead-Memories

Maybe in your opinion, but in terms of graphics, audio (voices), general polish (bugs and glitches), and more, Uncharted is FAR superior.

There are a good few bugs and glitches in the game. lolwut? the graphics are a little better than PS2. the world is huge and the art design is great. the English VA is incredible for being from a port of a japanese game, anyone whose played the game has noticed this. the VA and audio immersion were some of the best this gen.

See bolded fixes above.

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#52 Dead-Memories
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[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"][QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

Maybe in your opinion, but in terms of graphics, audio (voices), general polish (bugs and glitches), and more, Uncharted is FAR superior.

NaveedLife

There are a good few bugs and glitches in the game. lolwut? the graphics are a little better than PS2. the world is huge and the art design is great. the English VA is incredible for being from a port of a japanese game, anyone whose played the game has noticed this. the VA and audio immersion were some of the best this gen.

See bolded fixes above.

you are taking a huge credibility hit if you are saying it looks barely better than a PS2 game, i'm sorry. do you have an example of one of these bugs? i've NEVER seen a bug or glitch in the game at all. maybe some lag issues with the online but that's it.
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#53 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"][QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

Maybe in your opinion, but in terms of graphics, audio (voices), general polish (bugs and glitches), and more, Uncharted is FAR superior.

NaveedLife

There are a good few bugs and glitches in the game. lolwut? the graphics are a little better than PS2. the world is huge and the art design is great. the English VA is incredible for being from a port of a japanese game, anyone whose played the game has noticed this. the VA and audio immersion were some of the best this gen.

See bolded fixes above.

That's going a bit far. I think it's an average looking game, but a ps2 game? :?

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[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"][QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

Maybe in your opinion, but in terms of graphics, audio (voices), general polish (bugs and glitches), and more, Uncharted is FAR superior.

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bugs and glitches? lolwut? the graphics are fine. the world is huge and the art design is great. the English VA is incredible for being from a port of a japanese game, anyone whose played the game has noticed this. the VA and audio immersion were some of the best this gen.

Yeah if there's one thing DS really nails, its sound design. Quiet when it needs to be (when you're alone and isolated), and epic when it needs to be (Tower Knight anyone?)

This is obviously an opinion, and while I agree sound is its strong point, I think Diablo (1) destroys it. Tristram main song and each different tileset in the dengeons below have great, earie music / ambience. To me Demons Souls was too plain and then too similar in the music. I have the OST and it all sounds so similar.

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#55 xOMGITSJASONx
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I Platinum Demon Souls, its the 3rd best game available on the PS3 behind MGS 4 and U2 imo. The difficulty is part of its beauty. Try farming 20 hours straight for a pure bladestone and you will see Demon Souls beauty. I felt so great after i got that stone let me tell you.. It was orgasmic. Demon Souls is my favorite RPG this gen so far!!

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It was "fun","enjoyable" and had a "deep multiplayer". : |
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#57 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] There are a good few bugs and glitches in the game. lolwut? the graphics are a little better than PS2. the world is huge and the art design is great. the English VA is incredible for being from a port of a japanese game, anyone whose played the game has noticed this. the VA and audio immersion were some of the best this gen. theuncharted34

See bolded fixes above.

That's going a bit far. I think it's an average looking game, but a ps2 game? :?

haha probably a bit far :P (I did say a bit better ;)), but its really NOT that good looking at all. It does have a nice art direction though.

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#58 110million
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because they never played Diablo 2

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I am assuming you are saying Diablo II is far superior (different, but similar in ways), in which case I would completely agree. I was expecting Demons Souls to be like a 3D diablo 1.5 (more like diablo I but a bit more customization and such like Diablo II), but in reality it just lacked a lot.

I've seen people say its a Diablo 2 rip off before, and the guy you're quoting says it too, but the 2 games are not even in the same universe in similarity the comparison is complete nonsense.
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#59 xOMGITSJASONx
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="DeckardLee2010"]

because they never played Diablo 2

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I am assuming you are saying Diablo II is far superior (different, but similar in ways), in which case I would completely agree. I was expecting Demons Souls to be like a 3D diablo 1.5 (more like diablo I but a bit more customization and such like Diablo II), but in reality it just lacked a lot.

I've seen people say its a Diablo 2 rip off before, and the guy you're quoting says it too, but the 2 games are not even in the same universe in similarity the comparison is complete nonsense.

After playing the Diablo 2 demo i agree. Give me mah Demon Souls over that game anyday. But i will buy Diablo 3 next year. Then i will see if that game is as good as DS!!

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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]How dare a game focus on the gameplay and punish you for being reckless. What do they think this is, a video game? ...Oh wait.NaveedLife

The clunky controls make for some annoying design choices in which you die because of them. Of course its your fault, but at the same time, its hard not to suck with characters that move like that. And then when you die you get to...PLAY THE SAME THING ALL OVER AGAIN! YAY! And you lose everything. It really is a blast!

Exactly. I love the crappy camera when I'm in a small corridor turning the corner only to be greeted by a sword blade to the face! Die and repeat
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] bugs and glitches? lolwut? the graphics are fine. the world is huge and the art design is great. the English VA is incredible for being from a port of a japanese game, anyone whose played the game has noticed this. the VA and audio immersion were some of the best this gen. NaveedLife

Yeah if there's one thing DS really nails, its sound design. Quiet when it needs to be (when you're alone and isolated), and epic when it needs to be (Tower Knight anyone?)

This is obviously an opinion, and while I agree sound is its strong point, I think Diablo (1) destroys it. Tristram main song and each different tileset in the dengeons below have great, earie music / ambience. To me Demons Souls was too plain and then too similar in the music. I have the OST and it all sounds so similar.

we are comparing Demon's Souls to Diablo, why exactly?

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#62 110million
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[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

I am assuming you are saying Diablo II is far superior (different, but similar in ways), in which case I would completely agree. I was expecting Demons Souls to be like a 3D diablo 1.5 (more like diablo I but a bit more customization and such like Diablo II), but in reality it just lacked a lot.

xOMGITSJASONx

I've seen people say its a Diablo 2 rip off before, and the guy you're quoting says it too, but the 2 games are not even in the same universe in similarity the comparison is complete nonsense.

After playing the Diablo 2 demo i agree. Give me mah Demon Souls over that game anyday. But i will buy Diablo 3 next year. Then i will see if that game is as good as DS!!

Not saying Diablo 2 isn't awesome, and I am totally hyped for Diablo 3, its just impossible to compare them, the only way I can see someone compare them is if they never played one of them.
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#63 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

Yeah if there's one thing DS really nails, its sound design. Quiet when it needs to be (when you're alone and isolated), and epic when it needs to be (Tower Knight anyone?)Skittles_McGee

This is obviously an opinion, and while I agree sound is its strong point, I think Diablo (1) destroys it. Tristram main song and each different tileset in the dengeons below have great, earie music / ambience. To me Demons Souls was too plain and then too similar in the music. I have the OST and it all sounds so similar.

we are comparing Demon's Souls to Diablo, why exactly?

Iunno. And I'm not sure how the songs all sound similar. They don't at all :?
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]How dare a game focus on the gameplay and punish you for being reckless. What do they think this is, a video game? ...Oh wait.NaveedLife

The clunky controls make for some annoying design choices in which you die because of them. Of course its your fault, but at the same time, its hard not to suck with characters that move like that. And then when you die you get to...PLAY THE SAME THING ALL OVER AGAIN! YAY! And you lose everything. It really is a blast!

Sounds like you really suck at the game... for all the other players, its bloody fun.
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Iunno. And I'm not sure how the songs all sound similar. They don't at all :?Skittles_McGee

Well, lets see

Sample #1 - This song goes with anything, I stick this into trailers to make them more awesome, or ironic. :o

Sample #2 - so similar

Sample #3 - can anyone tell the difference at this point?


The songs all have a similar sort of theme, one that matches the setting perfectly. :)

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#66 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="110million"] I've seen people say its a Diablo 2 rip off before, and the guy you're quoting says it too, but the 2 games are not even in the same universe in similarity the comparison is complete nonsense. 110million

After playing the Diablo 2 demo i agree. Give me mah Demon Souls over that game anyday. But i will buy Diablo 3 next year. Then i will see if that game is as good as DS!!

Not saying Diablo 2 isn't awesome, and I am totally hyped for Diablo 3, its just impossible to compare them, the only way I can see someone compare them is if they never played one of them.

I am saying that Demons Souls is more along the lines of Diablo 1 in 3D. They are both slower than Diablo II, all about the dark atmosphere, hack and slashes with not enough customization. Of course Demons SOuls is 3D and presents camera issues lol. Thats another gripe I constantly have with games like Demons Souls, Fable, Oblivion and more. The customization is pretty awful. you think your really unique, but theres not much custmoziation (besides looks). I love Diablos thousands upon thousands of awesome items, and character builds that are actually very unique due to 7 different classes and different builds within each.

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#67 110million
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]How dare a game focus on the gameplay and punish you for being reckless. What do they think this is, a video game? ...Oh wait.LookAnDrolL

The clunky controls make for some annoying design choices in which you die because of them. Of course its your fault, but at the same time, its hard not to suck with characters that move like that. And then when you die you get to...PLAY THE SAME THING ALL OVER AGAIN! YAY! And you lose everything. It really is a blast!

Sounds like you really suck at the game... for all the other players, its bloody fun.

The controls in Demon's Souls are one of those things I consider un-hateable, it must be lack of skill, the controls are so fluid, its almost weird that a game can be that fluid.
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] Iunno. And I'm not sure how the songs all sound similar. They don't at all :?110million

Well, lets see

Sample #1 - This song goes with anything, I stick this into trailers to make them more awesome, or ironic. :o

Sample #2 - so similar

Sample #3 - can anyone tell the difference at this point?


The songs all have a similar sort of theme, one that matches the setting perfectly. :)

But it was said they ALL sound similar. I didn't listen to the samples, but I mean like, take Maiden Astraea's song and Flamelurker's song. There's not really a similarity.

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#69 110million
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[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

After playing the Diablo 2 demo i agree. Give me mah Demon Souls over that game anyday. But i will buy Diablo 3 next year. Then i will see if that game is as good as DS!!

NaveedLife

Not saying Diablo 2 isn't awesome, and I am totally hyped for Diablo 3, its just impossible to compare them, the only way I can see someone compare them is if they never played one of them.

I am saying that Demons Souls is more along the lines of Diablo 1 in 3D. They are both slower than Diablo II, all about the dark atmosphere, hack and slashes with not enough customization. Of course Demons SOuls is 3D and presents camera issues lol. Thats another gripe I constantly have with games like Demons Souls, Fable, Oblivion and more. The customization is pretty awful. you think your really unique, but theres not much custmoziation (besides looks). I love Diablos thousands upon thousands of awesome items, and character builds that are actually very unique due to 7 different classes and different builds within each.

You pointed out exactly why they can't be compared, I don't want thousdands of items in demon's souls, it would ruin the game. Demon's Souls is all about being the single character, potentially with some soul friends, and trying to take back boletaria, there are actually a lot of equips, if you've played the game enough, if you look at the top players, they are often quite unique looking, but that was never the point. Also, I've played the game for maybe 80 hours, never had an issue with the camera.
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[QUOTE="110million"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] Iunno. And I'm not sure how the songs all sound similar. They don't at all :?Skittles_McGee

Well, lets see

Sample #1 - This song goes with anything, I stick this into trailers to make them more awesome, or ironic. :o

Sample #2 - so similar

Sample #3 - can anyone tell the difference at this point?


The songs all have a similar sort of theme, one that matches the setting perfectly. :)

But it was said they ALL sound similar. I didn't listen to the samples, but I mean like, take Maiden Astraea's song and Flamelurker's song. There's not really a similarity.

Yeah clicking of the links was suppsoed to be for doubters, I used maiden astrea and tower knight to prove the games massive similarity.

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#71 LookAnDrolL
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[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

After playing the Diablo 2 demo i agree. Give me mah Demon Souls over that game anyday. But i will buy Diablo 3 next year. Then i will see if that game is as good as DS!!

NaveedLife

Not saying Diablo 2 isn't awesome, and I am totally hyped for Diablo 3, its just impossible to compare them, the only way I can see someone compare them is if they never played one of them.

I am saying that Demons Souls is more along the lines of Diablo 1 in 3D. They are both slower than Diablo II, all about the dark atmosphere, hack and slashes with not enough customization. Of course Demons SOuls is 3D and presents camera issues lol. Thats another gripe I constantly have with games like Demons Souls, Fable, Oblivion and more. The customization is pretty awful. you think your really unique, but theres not much custmoziation (besides looks). I love Diablos thousands upon thousands of awesome items, and character builds that are actually very unique due to 7 different classes and different builds within each.

Diablo II its a point and click game!! Demon's souls its a strategic TPS game with RPG elements, its almost like a medieval battle simulation. The controls are that good. Why are you comparing them?? Yeah, they both have dark and scary dungeons... duh
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[QUOTE="110million"] Not saying Diablo 2 isn't awesome, and I am totally hyped for Diablo 3, its just impossible to compare them, the only way I can see someone compare them is if they never played one of them.110million

I am saying that Demons Souls is more along the lines of Diablo 1 in 3D. They are both slower than Diablo II, all about the dark atmosphere, hack and slashes with not enough customization. Of course Demons SOuls is 3D and presents camera issues lol. Thats another gripe I constantly have with games like Demons Souls, Fable, Oblivion and more. The customization is pretty awful. you think your really unique, but theres not much custmoziation (besides looks). I love Diablos thousands upon thousands of awesome items, and character builds that are actually very unique due to 7 different classes and different builds within each.

You pointed out exactly why they can't be compared, I don't want thousdands of items in demon's souls, it would ruin the game. Demon's Souls is all about being the single character, potentially with some soul friends, and trying to take back boletaria, there are actually a lot of equips, if you've played the game enough, if you look at the top players, they are often quite unique looking, but that was never the point. Also, I've played the game for maybe 80 hours, never had an issue with the camera.

I don't see why you wouldnt want more items. How the heck can someone play this game so many times and enjoy it. its the same thing over and over again and you dont get new and better gear. Every character can level up everything to max, and theres no real distinction unless you PVP. I beat the game once and played it for many hours. I tried to convince myself it was good, but I began to realize its just boring and frustrating. I am playing for hours through the same junk over and over again to...not get more gear? Not look or feel any cooler? I dont get it.

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[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

I am saying that Demons Souls is more along the lines of Diablo 1 in 3D. They are both slower than Diablo II, all about the dark atmosphere, hack and slashes with not enough customization. Of course Demons SOuls is 3D and presents camera issues lol. Thats another gripe I constantly have with games like Demons Souls, Fable, Oblivion and more. The customization is pretty awful. you think your really unique, but theres not much custmoziation (besides looks). I love Diablos thousands upon thousands of awesome items, and character builds that are actually very unique due to 7 different classes and different builds within each.

NaveedLife

You pointed out exactly why they can't be compared, I don't want thousdands of items in demon's souls, it would ruin the game. Demon's Souls is all about being the single character, potentially with some soul friends, and trying to take back boletaria, there are actually a lot of equips, if you've played the game enough, if you look at the top players, they are often quite unique looking, but that was never the point. Also, I've played the game for maybe 80 hours, never had an issue with the camera.

I don't see why you wouldnt want more items. How the heck can someone play this game so many times and enjoy it. its the same thing over and over again and you dont get new and better gear. Every character can level up everything to max, and theres no real distinction unless you PVP. I beat the game once and played it for many hours. I tried to convince myself it was good, but I began to realize its just boring and frustrating. I am playing for hours through the same junk over and over again to...not get more gear? Not look or feel any cooler? I dont get it.

again, you are an anomaly to the norm. replaying it was awesome, it obviously got boring for me eventually, but I loved playing through it those 5 times. helping people take down bosses, upgrading your weapons for the trophies, invading people's worlds with dual katana spec. all of it is magical.
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#74 NaveedLife
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Well I guess to each his own, I will admit it does some stuff well and it is quite unique among this gens games, but you guys have to admit its graphics are not that great, it has some bugs, and it has other issues :P. Technically it needs work. Everythign else is somewhat opinion based. i am glad you all enjoy it, I was hoping for much more.

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I also agree with your complaint about the difficulty of the game. I lost so much souls during boss encounters...ie those stupid flame lizards in the stonefang tunnel and the armor spider boss. But a trick to the game even though its cheap is to farm enough souls then when you feel like you have enough go all the way back to the archstone and tp back to the nexus and level up. The game saves and you are stronger to fight through the level. Currently I am at the tower of latria and these stupid guards shoot some type of magic blast at you and it kills like 2/3 of your health in one shot. The difficulty in this game is similar to the old NES super mario bros....even one mistake...one tiny mistake can kill you lol.

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I also agree with your complaint about the difficulty of the game. I lost so much souls during boss encounters...ie those stupid flame lizards in the stonefang tunnel and the armor spider boss. But a trick to the game even though its cheap is to farm enough souls then when you feel like you have enough go all the way back to the archstone and tp back to the nexus and level up. The game saves and you are stronger to fight through the level. Currently I am at the tower of latria and these stupid guards shoot some type of magic blast at you and it kills like 2/3 of your health in one shot. The difficulty in this game is similar to the old NES super mario bros....even one mistake...one tiny mistake can kill you lol.

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i personally think the tower prison is one of the hardest if not the hardest, the atmosphere, lighting, enemies are just so creepy. and the maneater can be one pain in the ass.
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Demon's Souls won GOTY because it dared to be different. It was the first game to come around in a long time that challenged players. It isn't impossible, but it demands patience. The controls were fluid and realistic, the sound design was amazing, and the atmoshpere was incredibly immersive. The online features were innovative, and invading/being invaded by other players was always interesting.

It's not for everyone, definitely, but for patient players it's incredibly rewarding and satisfying.

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The difficulty is insane. You have to be a hardcore nerd to get anywhere far in this game.Easyle

trolol?

The game isn't that hard. It requires you to think and plan out your attacks and learn from any mistakes you make. Are you saying nerds are the only people able to think things through?

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I agree with you to a certain extent TC. However, my agreement with your complaints comes less from these characteristics as being "detriments" to the game itself and more with the fact that at this point in my life I have a full-time job, a wife, responsibilities, etc. Alone free time is SO VALUABLE! I simply cannot justify playing a game like this, and exerting this much energy trying to progress through a game so slowly--especially as there are a ton more other games I'd like to get to eventually also.

At first the challenge was engaging, very refreshing. After a while, I found it harder and harder to justify spending 45 minutes on something only to have all that work flushed down the toilet because some stupid invisible archer came out of god knows where and killed me. If I were younger, I would love this game--I'd consider it a personal challenge, like reading 'War and Peace' or running a 5K.... now....eh, not so much...

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#80 Maroxad
Member since 2007 • 25261 Posts

The game was awarded GOTY because it was immersive, relatively innovative, challenging (but not hard), and played really well (second best medieval combat system second only to Mount&Blade). I loved it as well, with it being my last year's personal GOTY, and I am eagerly looking forward to the sequel. I loved how they restricted check points, I loved how they punished stupidity.

invading people's worlds with dual katana spec. all of it is magical. Dead-Memories

How does dual wielding work anyway? I tried it once but it didnt work for me.

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#81 kate_jones
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Demon's Souls is probably my fave game this gen, I was happy it got GOTY it deserved it.

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#82 hayato_
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it's not your type of game. it's one of the best games released so far this generation.

it's a shame you don't like it.

Dead-Memories
I agree with him somewhat. Its kinda underwhelming to be a GOTY imo. Will try it again since I bought it when it first came out, only because it was my money.
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#83 pimpog
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Wow so much crying just because the game dared to actually be difficult to beat. I grew up in the 16 bit era so I am happy some dev got balls and made a game I would actually have to die on over and over till i got it perfect. Gamers today are used to save points and starting back at the same spot and girly difficulty that slowly ramps up if at all.

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#84 hayato_
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Wow so much crying just because the game dared to actually be difficult to beat. I grew up in the 16 bit era so I am happy some dev got balls and made a game I would actually have to die on over and over till i got it perfect. Gamers today are used to save points and starting back at the same spot and girly difficulty that slowly ramps up if at all.

pimpog
The game is only difficult if you made it difficult. I think its more lack of presentation for me. It just seemed.....dull.
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#85 Silverbond
Member since 2008 • 16130 Posts

It's real claim to fame was its difficulty.

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#86 WhoaNellie32
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Wow so much crying just because the game dared to actually be difficult to beat. I grew up in the 16 bit era so I am happy some dev got balls and made a game I would actually have to die on over and over till i got it perfect. Gamers today are used to save points and starting back at the same spot and girly difficulty that slowly ramps up if at all.

pimpog
I grew up in the 8 bit era and I can see why games have naturally progressed in the manner they have. Time passes, lives develop. Crazy as it sounded in '90, but older people listen to rap now. Same with video games. In my perspective, video games have shifted to more healthfully and positively align with the lives of developing users. Now with that said, am I happy a game like DS can still be made, enjoyed, and financially successful in today's age? Absolutely.
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#87 WhoaNellie32
Member since 2007 • 271 Posts

Did you really feel *that* good about yourself and really feel *that* much accomplishment beating a game on NES like Castlevania or Battletoads? I mean, don't get me wrong, my friends and I would stay up all night taking turns trying to get past frustrating parts of certain 8/16 bit games.... but I can't say i look back on these experiences and feel *that* much pride

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#88 Pug-Nasty
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[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

it's not your type of game. it's one of the best games released so far this generation.

it's a shame you don't like it.

BodyElite

Who honestly likes repetition, especially in your entertainment? I guess I made this thread to try and persuade you guys to talk me back into playing DS, because I don't want to waste $30 :P

How many games aren't repetitive from one play through to another? It really just seems like the game is too hard for you.

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#89 pimpog
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Did you really feel *that* good about yourself and really feel *that* much accomplishment beating a game on NES like Castlevania or Battletoads? I mean, don't get me wrong, my friends and I would stay up all night taking turns trying to get past frustrating parts of certain 8/16 bit games.... but I can't say i look back on these experiences and feel *that* much pride

WhoaNellie32

I felt great about beating the old games. I would go to school and only a select few knew about the games ending. There was a feeling of pride being the 1st to do it, I felt great when i beat demon souls I thought this is how a game should be. However I get that I am a old school gamer and the new guys might not get it. They are used to easier games that you finish in one day then move on.

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#90 tamabeast04
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this is easily one of the deepest games ive played for a loooong time. The game hits its stride about 4 hours in, and particular once you start finding varied weapons. However, it seems like this thread was started cos the kid got killed and wanted to come and cry about the difficulty haha

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#91 Some-Mist
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@TC: It's online mechanics are somewhat innovative. Seemlessly shifting in and out of multiplayer while remaining primarily a single player game. Being able to fight as a boss in another player's game (a boss that is required to complete a playthrough). I've sunk more hours and have had more fun with the player vs player combat in DS than I did in all 3 years that I played World of Warcraft. You can sink a lot of hours into the game and still find ways to have fun.

The atsmophere is very eerie/desolate and it's maintained throughout the entire game - even when you co-op with other players. There's very minimal ways to communicate with anyone that you're playing with or against - which many see as the developer being lazy - but even from software stated that it was to maintain that feeling of isolation even when playing in multiplayer modes.

The game does have a story, but unlike most games this generation, it isn't spoon fed to you. You can piece it together by talking to each of the NPCs + using the introduction and ending cinematics to form your own. Many posters on the demon's souls gamefaqs subforum of gamespot have put the story together in such a way that their presentation seemed brilliant.

You can regain those souls you lost as long as you make it back up to the point in which you died, however, if you die a 2nd time, THEN all of those souls are lost - which is where the souls you pick up in your inventory come in handy.

For a first playthrough the game takes approximately 40 hours to beat, which is a little above average for RPGs this generation, however, you can easily get that down to 10-20 hours in subsequent playthroughs - even players doing 1 hour speed runs now.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]How dare a game focus on the gameplay and punish you for being reckless. What do they think this is, a video game? ...Oh wait.NaveedLife

The clunky controls make for some annoying design choices in which you die because of them. Of course its your fault, but at the same time, its hard not to suck with characters that move like that. And then when you die you get to...PLAY THE SAME THING ALL OVER AGAIN! YAY! And you lose everything. It really is a blast!

take off your armor and run naked, or boost your endurance so that you can move at full speed with your current armor set and the gameplay doesn't feel as clunky. When you exceed your equip rate by 50%, the game beomes more clunky/harder to move around due to having more weight on you than you can handle. When the equip rate is less than 50%, you move at full speed.

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#92 Shoaka
Member since 2009 • 643 Posts

Wasn't as good as Dragon Age.

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#93 WhoaNellie32
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[QUOTE="WhoaNellie32"]

Did you really feel *that* good about yourself and really feel *that* much accomplishment beating a game on NES like Castlevania or Battletoads? I mean, don't get me wrong, my friends and I would stay up all night taking turns trying to get past frustrating parts of certain 8/16 bit games.... but I can't say i look back on these experiences and feel *that* much pride

pimpog

I felt great about beating the old games. I would go to school and only a select few knew about the games ending. There was a feeling of pride being the 1st to do it, I felt great when i beat demon souls I thought this is how a game should be. However I get that I am a old school gamer and the new guys might not get it. They are used to easier games that you finish in one day then move on.

That's cool. I feel you on that. I think the main issue isn't necessarily that *every* game should be like DS, or that games have developed standard features (regen, checkpoints, etc) that in turn make games easier, because from the perspective of someone who has played games for a while one can see how these changes naturally occurred. The main issue seems to lie with younger-folk who simply cannot cope or have zero tolerance to adversity/frustration in games because they came in at a time when these easier features were considered more an inherent trait to games, and less a potentially positive, different alternative. I loved metroid, but sometimes I had to throw in some Joe and Mack to even out the frustration. As less and less games go the way of DS in difficulty, I can understand why this might be frustrating for more "seasoned" folk, haha.
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#94 Riverwolf007
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what was funny in my case was i borrowed it from a friend that played it a few hours and never touched it again then i did the exact same thing. he then loaned it to another friend that could not stand to play it for more than a few hours.

i won't bash it since plenty of people loved it but most of the people i know in rl just never got what was supposed to be appealing about it.

back in he day i used to say nobody wanted to call it out for what it was and risk someone thinking they were casual but that was really just me joking around.

maybei just have too many real demands on my time and can't stand the thought of games making demands on me.

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#95 topsemag55
Member since 2007 • 19063 Posts

It won GotY because it was a game on one console.

That's why I'm guessing Gamespot will GotY SMG2 - same thing, a game on one console.

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#96 djsifer01
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Sounds to me like its not your type of game. Also, the graphics are far from terrible there actually extremely good especially in certain areas of the game like boss fights, Flameluker, Dragon God and Tower knight just to name a few. Demons Souls is a extremely fun and challenging game. I played through the N/A version 4 times and soon im going to play through the Asian version 4 times to plat that one as well.
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#97 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Because it's the best game released last year.
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#98 WhoaNellie32
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Because it's the best game released last year.siLVURcross
well, it's solved. glad we worked that out.
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#99 funsohng
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It's only basic hack and slash to the point you want it to be a basic hack and slash, by which point you won't find the game good because you streamlined your gameplay style in a game that isn't necessarily streamlined to begin with.
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#100 campzor
Member since 2004 • 34932 Posts
i think its a good game... i wouldnt say GREAT game... i personally voted for U2 but it got robbed...ah well