So how powerful is the 3DS?

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#1 mattuk69
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Its a little confusing the 3DS (to me anyway) on how powerful it actually is.

Zelda ocarina of time they port the N64 version and not the Gamecube version? So its not as powerful as a gamecube. But then Resident Evil Mercenaries shows its looks better than GC games. Then Resident Evil Revelations looks better than Wii games.

So they are porting N64 games while 3DS is showing it can produce better looking games than the GC and Wii. Also UBi say's 3DS can run Unreal Engine 2 without a hitch.

Chaos Theory looks better to me on the 3DS compared to the GC.

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#2 ABCarmine
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#3 ActionRemix
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It's less powerful than the Gamecube, but the resolution it needs to output at is much smaller, so it can produce visuals that seem to equate to it. It also has a graphics card with modern features so even games like BF3 can be ported to it.

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#4 lbjkurono23
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Powerful enough to make good looking games, but not powerful enough to make you breakfast.

Anyways, I've read(dunno how true it is) that it's as strong as a gc with the ability to handle shaders.

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#5 OreoMilkshake
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Chaos Theory has a god-awful framerate, for the record. I'm not a tech expert so my "pulling this out of my ass" opinion is about GC level.
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#6 trugs26
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I'd say about GC level, maybe a bit more. But the 3D can make games look really good though.

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#7 Litchie
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Less powerful than a GC.
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#8 ShadowDragon78
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Slightly less than Gamecube....
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#9 ShadowDeathX
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Developed for 3D - Between PS2 and Gamecube Level Graphics.

Developed from the ground up with only 2D - Between Gamecube and Wii graphics.

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#10 Shinobishyguy
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GC levels with better shaders but not able to push as much polygons
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#11 christiankhs-2
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i dont know about technical aspects of graphics, but revelations looks better that re4 (best looking gc game) so i say better than gc at least

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#12 Zurrur
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Less than gamecube

So far all GC/PS2 ports have been worse than orginals

Chaos Theory runs at terrible framerate

Tales of Abyss looks worse than PS2 version

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#13 dontshackzmii
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in some ways better then gc and others less.

Pros

better effects

more ram

cons

low poly

low res

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#14 AtariKidX
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3DS have the power of the PS2.
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#15 mmmwksil
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3DS have the power of the PS2.AtariKidX

If this is true, it's good enough for me. Bring it on.

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#16 cutebrute
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If I recall, it uses a 266mhz dual-core processor, 96mb RAM dedicated to gaming applications, and a 133mhz PICA200 GPU. These numbers may not be accurate, but as far as raw power goes, it would place the 3DS in-between the GCN and Wii. However, because of the 3d effect and the two screens, much of that additional power is taken up.

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#17 GTSaiyanjin2
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I think it gets the job done in terms of graphics. But the 3DS being a stereoscopic gaming system does not help its cause, as it cripples the potential of how good some of these games can look. The tech in the system is very old though, but its still a fine system and ok now at its price point.

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#18 painguy1
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It has the power of teh cell.

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#19 mattuk69
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Chaos Theory has a god-awful framerate, for the record. I'm not a tech expert so my "pulling this out of my ass" opinion is about GC level.OreoMilkshake
I wouldn't put a laggy Splinter Cell game down to the power of the 3DS. SC Conviction is running on the unreal engine 2 and it runs like crap on my PC. Depending on the profit ubi don't give a foook about optimization.
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#20 Nozizaki
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http://www.destructoid.com/high-voltage-3ds-more-powerful-than-wii-193611.phtml

In raw power, it is more powerful than a Wii. It cannot out-put better than Wii graphics in 3D because the fact it requires making 2 separate images. Graphically it is sightly better than the Gamecube.

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#21 theuncharted34
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It's basically a ps2 with more advanced shader's.

Not sure how the battery life can be so terrible considering that.

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#22 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Very
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#23 TrapJak
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For a handheld, its a strong device. Nice graphics, and with the well done games on the way, it'll show.

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#24 JuanGrande386
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Wow I cant believe noone said something like "LOLZ N64 graphix at best, same DS just with 3D". Guess people are starting to realize its a brand new system.

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http://www.destructoid.com/high-voltage-3ds-more-powerful-than-wii-193611.phtml

In raw power, it is more powerful than a Wii. It cannot out-put better than Wii graphics in 3D because the fact it requires making 2 separate images. Graphically it is sightly better than the Gamecube.

Nozizaki

This the 3DS is definitely not N64 level. The DS was just about as powerful as the N64. The DSi was two times better CPU and 4 times more RAM then the N64.

I say the 3DS is somewhere between the GCN and Wii.

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#26 timmy00
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Probably around the gamecube levels. Maybe a bit more powerful. They just need developers to take advantage of the tech. kinda like what capcom is doing. :P

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#27 Phoenix534
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Speaking entirely with hardware, slightly above the Wii.

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#28 MFDOOM1983
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in between PSP and ps2 but it can handle shaders.
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#29 LP4EVA2005
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it has the power of Hercules
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#30 painguy1
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The main reason 3DS games dont look that great is because 3D is a serious drain on the consoles performance. I hope a dev makes a 2D only game so we can really see the system shine. Right now the triangle count in alot of games is rly upsetting. I'm not expecting a 10 fold improvement or anything, but the difference will be noticeable.

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#31 foxhound_fox
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Powerful enough. Hardware power has never been the secret to success in gaming.
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#32 Rod90
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The poll is silly. What's the difference between "above GCN" and "between GCN and Wii"?

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http://www.destructoid.com/high-voltage-3ds-more-powerful-than-wii-193611.phtml

In raw power, it is more powerful than a Wii. It cannot out-put better than Wii graphics in 3D because the fact it requires making 2 separate images. Graphically it is sightly better than the Gamecube.

Nozizaki
Am i the only one that thinks the 3ds would be way better without the useless, eye straining 3d gimmick.
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#34 Pray_to_me
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Between GC and Wii but to be frank the Wii did not seem much mre powerful then gamegube tb straight up.

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#35 soulitane
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Powerful enough for my tastes.
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#36 Click_Clock
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Its between the Nintendo 64 and the Gamecube. Nintendo was never about raw power but about great gameplay and that's where the 3DS will shine and bring in the sales.

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#37 Mario1331
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how strong it could be is gamecube level with better shaders but its up to the devs to utilize it

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#38 PurpleMan5000
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[QUOTE="Nozizaki"]

http://www.destructoid.com/high-voltage-3ds-more-powerful-than-wii-193611.phtml

In raw power, it is more powerful than a Wii. It cannot out-put better than Wii graphics in 3D because the fact it requires making 2 separate images. Graphically it is sightly better than the Gamecube.

Androvinus
Am i the only one that thinks the 3ds would be way better without the useless, eye straining 3d gimmick.

Slide down the slider on the right side of the system, and you will get your wish.
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#39 YearoftheSnake5
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It's like Wii, in that it's a Gamecube with a little extra kick. The graphics chip seems to be better than Wii, but the CPU isn't quite there.

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#40 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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It is i would say about as powerful as the 360 when you look at the system failure rate.

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#41 GD1551
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A dev said it had some stuff better than the wii.

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#42 Aidenfury19
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Pixel for pixel it would not surprise me if the performance is superior to the Wii. The Wii wasn't exactly cutting edge when it came out and there has been half a decade in the meantime for technology to improve. That being said, if it is better than the Wii (which I'm not sure about) it probably isn't by much.

It's less powerful than the Gamecube, but the resolution it needs to output at is much smaller, so it can produce visuals that seem to equate to it. It also has a graphics card with modern features so even games like BF3 can be ported to it.

ActionRemix

This is entirely wrong. Remember that the system has to support 3D which means it's displaying two images at once.

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#43 LastRambo341
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Less than gamecube

So far all GC/PS2 ports have been worse than orginals

Chaos Theory runs at terrible framerate

Tales of Abyss looks worse than PS2 version

Zurrur
Prove it Did you know that it is up to the developers?
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#44 LastRambo341
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3DS have the power of the PS2.AtariKidX
And that is why MGS3 looks better on 3DS, yup. As usual.
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#45 LastRambo341
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Wii and original Xbox level
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#46 Epak_
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[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]3DS have the power of the PS2.LastRambo341
And that is why MGS3 looks better on 3DS, yup. As usual.

Latest Snake Eater shots look pretty bad. Revelations looks beast though.

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#47 r12qi
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uh eh kinda debatable

polygional wise little bit above gamecube

BUT interesting ly it capable to pull DirectX 11 technique like tesselation (abiet not empressive)

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#48 Epak_
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uh eh kinda debatable

polygional wise little bit above gamecube

BUT interesting ly it capable to pull DirectX 11 technique like tesselation (abiet not empressive)

r12qi

More info on that one please?

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#49 r12qi
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[QUOTE="r12qi"]

uh eh kinda debatable

polygional wise little bit above gamecube

BUT interesting ly it capable to pull DirectX 11 technique like tesselation (abiet not empressive)

Epak_

More info on that one please?

http://neogaf.net/forum/showpost.php?p=22883361&postcount=2

at section 27 you will see what capability of PICA200 (3DS GPU) it have few interesting technique that probably vita dont have

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#50 nameless12345
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GC+

Also this:

Developed for 3D - Between PS2 and Gamecube Level Graphics.

Developed from the ground up with only 2D - Between Gamecube and Wii graphics.

ShadowDeathX