So in the end, is MGS4 a system seller?

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#51 Erkidu
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[QUOTE="Erkidu"]Ok - so PS2 owners were only allowed to buy MGS3 immediately after it launched? :| That makes perfect sense....oh, wait... It doesn't.-Spock-

You have misunderstood me, that's why. I am only using MGS2 as an example since it was released at an early date in the PS2's life cycle. Forget MGS3 for a minute - it's MGS2 that was the system seller, since it sold 7 million units by the time the PS2 had so far sold approx. 40 million units out of its 120 million potential. Sure, i'd agree with you in saying that it wasn't a system seller if the PS2 had sold all 120 million units by the time MGS2 had launched in 2001, but that just wasn't the case. There were only about 20-25 million PS2 units on shelves in 2001 - the sales and timing are practically akin to Halo 2, a game widely regarded as a system seller, releasing on the original Xbox in 2004.

Why would I use MGS2 as an example, when I can use MGS3 as a BETTER example? MGS3 was the last MGS title released on the PS brand - when the PS2 had 100 million+ users, and it sold only 3.8 million copies. It is safe to say that, based on the LAST MGS TITLE RELEASED ON THE MOST POPULAR SYSTEM IN HISTORY, that MGS4 will not be an enormous system seller. Using your logic, I could argue that Zelda is a "system seller" in Japan because Ocarina of Time sold well in that country - completely ignoring Twilight Princess, which had abysmal sales in Japan.
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#52 prodiqy32
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in my opinion there is no longer a game that can sale a system by itself. halo was the last one. i think splinter cell is a better game then metal gear but i wouldnt buy a system for either one. but splinter cell has better control, camera, story, graphics (at least til MGS4 comes out), and most importantly multiplayer. bringing my mom into it was just dumb. but for the record she prefers the stealth masterpeice manhunt......ha ha.
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#53 Geek_Speak101
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It may sell a couple but it's no Halo 3
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#54 DaysAirlines
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How many PSPs did the numerous MGS games sell?
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#55 Geek_Speak101
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Well I'm buying a PS3 especially for MGS4, so for me it's a system seller

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#56 Animal-Mother
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It may sell a couple but it's no Halo 3Geek_Speak101
Halo 3 is garbage compared to what mgs4 will be
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#57 DaysAirlines
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[QUOTE="Geek_Speak101"]It may sell a couple but it's no Halo 3Animal-Mother
Halo 3 is garbage compared to what mgs4 will be

I guess it has to be.
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#59 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Geek_Speak101"]It may sell a couple but it's no Halo 3DaysAirlines
Halo 3 is garbage compared to what mgs4 will be

I guess it has to be.

i hope so, i mean i halos fun and all, its just way too generic, ii just feel like i've been offered something new with every mgs, while halo 3 had like 2 new vehicles and like 2 more guns
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#60 Geek_Speak101
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[QUOTE="Geek_Speak101"]It may sell a couple but it's no Halo 3Animal-Mother
Halo 3 is garbage compared to what mgs4 will be

What will MGS4 be? Hopefully not the same garbage that it has been

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#61 Mordred19
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Of course it is, MGSPO sold millions of PSPs the day it came out.DaysAirlines

Okay, cut that out. It's gotten old.

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#62 hiryu3
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MGS 1 was a system sell, MGS2 was and so will MGS4.
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#63 Mordred19
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[QUOTE="-Spock-"][QUOTE="Erkidu"]Ok - so PS2 owners were only allowed to buy MGS3 immediately after it launched? :| That makes perfect sense....oh, wait... It doesn't.Erkidu

You have misunderstood me, that's why. I am only using MGS2 as an example since it was released at an early date in the PS2's life cycle. Forget MGS3 for a minute - it's MGS2 that was the system seller, since it sold 7 million units by the time the PS2 had so far sold approx. 40 million units out of its 120 million potential. Sure, i'd agree with you in saying that it wasn't a system seller if the PS2 had sold all 120 million units by the time MGS2 had launched in 2001, but that just wasn't the case. There were only about 20-25 million PS2 units on shelves in 2001 - the sales and timing are practically akin to Halo 2, a game widely regarded as a system seller, releasing on the original Xbox in 2004.

Why would I use MGS2 as an example, when I can use MGS3 as a BETTER example? MGS3 was the last MGS title released on the PS brand - when the PS2 had 100 million+ users, and it sold only 3.8 million copies. It is safe to say that, based on the LAST MGS TITLE RELEASED ON THE MOST POPULAR SYSTEM IN HISTORY, that MGS4 will not be an enormous system seller. Using your logic, I could argue that Zelda is a "system seller" in Japan because Ocarina of Time sold well in that country - completely ignoring Twilight Princess, which had abysmal sales in Japan.

MGS3 is not a better example, as you say. The circumstances surrounding MGS3 are dissimilar to the circumstances to MGS4 and the PS3. You only want to use MGS3 asthe example, because focusing solely on that game, while forgetting MGS2, would help your stance.

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#64 deactivated-57a12126af02c
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I guess halo:ce wasnt one either then.
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#65 Animal-Mother
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Halo has always been an overrated franchise, and how can you call MGS garbage its one of the longest running video game franchises for a reason