So in the end... it turned out COD will be the BEST of the best, again.

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#51 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

Only the people who lag all the time think they never lag, because lagging gives you the advantage in CoD games.

Pug-Nasty


Oh wow...lol..Yeah,you're completely right.

lol.

I know.

I can't think of any situation in online gaming that screws you over as completely as being picked to be the host in a CoD game, which unfortunately happens to me all the time.

Yeah,indeed.You're completely right.

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#52 Blueresident87
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and in the end, yet again, i will not buy MW3, or care what it scores.ferret-gamer

I want to know who came along and said review scores even mean anything in the first place. Because they don't.

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#53 NeonNinja
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All the cool kids thought Battlefield 3 would suck before release. Turns out the hype was a lie.

All the cool kids still think Modern Warfare 3 will suck. Turns out, we're still right.

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#54 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Much like the people hated on MW2 prior to release, then it came out and it turned out to be one of the most adrenaline-pumped and entertaining game in the world. Much like people didn't expect Black Ops to even contend with the rest of the FPS (like Halo: Reach), it came out, revolutionized the CoD franchise, and is now the top played game in the world. Exactly this is what happens in 2011. So many people doubting MW3's potential. So many people hyping up BF3 as the CoD killer. Or Crysis 2, or Rage. You name it. All flopped horribly. This leaves us with Modern Warfare 3--a game with not so impressive technique, but all focus on the gameplay, the most important part of a game. I like it how everyone hates on CoD prior to release because it's too popular, they know it's going to sell so they try to be unique. But as the game release comes close and the game is released, they are: "eh, whatever, let's go with the flow, they can't be wrong!". Oh, history has been repeated, and once November 8 hits us, the earth will once again tremble!GTAV2012

I know this is sarcasm, but MW2 was just plain bad. Terrible campaign and unbalanced twitch fest mp. It is a shame really, as the controls for the game are ace.

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#55 jer_1
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BF3 is definitely winning against blops and MW2 from my experience. It handles almost everything better, looks FAR FAR better and is a hell of a lot of fun. The vehicles are a blast, the maps are excellent and you're not cramped into small corridors nearly as often. This equals a winner for me!

To each his own and I'm sure that there are tons of people wanting MW3, but to me BF3 is definitely a good experience (I'm speaking strictly for multiplayer obviously).

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#56 organic_machine
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See, there's the problem. You can talk of objective quality, but when you do you find that there are areas that some shooters do better than COD, and vice versa. Sure, you can toss around scores, but that's useless because a score is only a thesis.

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#57 DJ_Headshot
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Without the original IW team I don't expect MW3 to get a 90+ metacritic on any system especially not the pc Call of duty will of course continue to sell a boatload of copies and be ridiculously popular.
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#58 GeneralShowzer
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I got bored of Black Ops in two weeks. lonewolf604
I got bored with it in 30 minutes. But I didn't actually pay for it, only the free weekend on steam
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#59 GeneralShowzer
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Without the original IW team I don't expect MW3 to get a 90+ metacritic on any system especially not the pc Call of duty will of course continue to sell a boatload of copies and be ridiculously popular.DJ_Headshot
The scores can be fixed, Activision proved itself very effective at it.
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#60 aroxx_ab
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BF3 has not flopped in sales. It sold 3 million in a day. I mean, damn. Try TDM on Kharg Island it's a blast.ActionRemix

Hah where did you get those numbers from....?

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#61 ghostwarrior786
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how did battlefield 3 flop? and dont say singleplayer because no one and i mean NO ONE buys a battlefield game for its single player campgain. multiplayer wise it blows everything out of the water

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#62 WTA2k5
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People will find extremely nitpicky reasons to not like it, no matter how solid of a game it is.

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#63 fusionhunter
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how did battlefield 3 flop? and dont say singleplayer because no one and i mean NO ONE buys a battlefield game for its single player campgain. multiplayer wise it blows everything out of the water

ghostwarrior786

flop in SW means it didn't meet the hype in the hype thread which was something 9.5 ect from the polls. The most voted score people thought it would get. Since it only scored a 9.5 on GS and didn't go 9 and up it flopped.

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#64 fusionhunter
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People will find extremely nitpicky reasons to not like it, no matter how solid of a game it is.

WTA2k5

COD went hit a steep slope after COD4

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#65 Iantheone
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Black Ops revolutionized the franchise by doing the same thing. Again.
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MW2 prior to release, then it came out and it turned out to be one of the most adrenaline-pumped and entertaining game in the world. Much like people didn't expect Black Ops to even contend with the rest of the FPS (like Halo: Reach), it came out, revolutionized the CoD francse.iGTAV2012

Oh please don't make me laughhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M&list=LLOhzfAx0umFBgmKqqCwFiAA&index=13&feature=plpp_video

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#67 hippiesanta
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I think battlefie3 will not flop because people attract wit beautiful graphic. in it's still 90 above on metacritic........We are like insects dancing at the light bulb.
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#68 stereointegrity
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stop feeding the troll guys
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#69 NaveedLife
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CoD always been the best ever since CoD4 came out, its been dominating the FPS department ever since

finalstar2007

No way. CoD4 was pretty fun but MW2 was absolute trash. Battlefield is different than all other FPS and cannot really be compared, but here is my top five FPS series, keeping in mind old ones have aged badly.

Battlefield > Timesplitters > Counterstrike > Halo > Perfect Dark 64 (aged poorly in terms of framerate and controls, unfortunately)

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#70 super600  Moderator
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Are you shred3D by any chance new user. I will be funny to see what happens when MW3 gets below a 90 on MC.

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#71 Mr_Cumberdale
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lol at blops revolutionizing the franchize. it was the worst of the bunchmems_1224
It amazes me that people say that. I couldn't get more than 15 hours in MW2's MP because it was such a mess.
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#72 UnrealLegend
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Crysis 1 > all CoD games combined. Seriously, the series has done nothing to innovate and it will be a rehash like the rest of the series.

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#73 foxhound_fox
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Best at what? Deceiving the bro-gamer hoard into believing each game actually offers something new and different than the previous entry for $60 + DLC.
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#74 HaloPimp978
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Lulz your funny, cause I can name 6 FPS Franchises I rather play.

  1. GOW
  2. Halo
  3. Killzone
  4. BF
  5. Unreal Tournament
  6. Crysis
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#75 lamprey263
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Unlike other people I liked MW2, though I don't play the MP and I figure that's why most people complain as the campaign was pretty good, and I realize just by looking at peoples' achievements they don't even finish the SP campaign and will only play the MP for months. Anyhow there was no chance even if BF3 got 100% reviews from every publication of dethroning MW3, COD games are probably going to top 20 million combined across the various platforms for years and Battlefield isn't anywhere near that in popularity yet. Still though, I was looking forward to BF3 for what I see as a superior MP experience and so far it is delivering nicely. And I'm pretty stoked for MW3 after where we left things off in MW2, I mean they did an excellent job sparking WW3, I thought the set design of the Russia invaded United States was pretty cool, especially the war torn DC levels, and MW3 is taking us to war torn Manhattan from what I've seen, it should be interesting to see what other locations they pick, but I'll be really disappointed if we don't see Abrams rolling into Red Square by the end of the game.
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#76 foxhound_fox
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GOWHaloPimp978
Gears of War isn't first person... and God of War isn't even a shooter. :? And where is Doom? Quake? Timesplitters? Perfect Dark? Day of Defeat? Counter-Strike? Tribes?
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#77 Tikeio
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lulz Battleflop 3!

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#78 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Lol. MW3 sure as the overall package but BF3 is the king of shooter MP. Looks so damn good. I NEED IT!

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#79 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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And Blops revolutioned the franchise? By what taking parts away from other games like Halo Reach (credit system) a theater mode, gun game from CS? Sure it was fun for a few minutes, but after awhile the shallowness of the game starts to kick in

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#80 deactivated-5b31d3729c1fa
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but...MW3 hasn't even come out yet...

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#81 alexside1
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Best at what? Deceiving the bro-gamer hoard into believing each game actually offers something new and different than the previous entry for $60 + DLC.foxhound_fox
How exactly are they deceiving? They just giving them want they want, because the demand is high. Also, hooray for stereotypes.
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#82 gamer620
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I got bored of Black Ops in two weeks. lonewolf604
And yet, I bet in that two weeks, you played the game for probably around 24 hrs at least right?
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#83 wis3boi
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but...MW3 hasn't even come out yet...

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It did, 3 times since 2007 :P

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#84 Blueresident87
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but...MW3 hasn't even come out yet...

munchlax99

That doesn't matter around here...

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#85 foxhound_fox
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How exactly are they deceiving?alexside1
By releasing the same game with a new name and new maps.
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#86 doubalfa
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Call of Duty is what made every military FPS feel generic, and with a reason when you release 4 games in 5 years with the same theme it is just wrong
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And Blops revolutioned the franchise? By what taking parts away from other games like Halo Reach (credit system) a theater mode, gun game from CS? Sure it was fun for a few minutes, but after awhile the shallowness of the game starts to kick in

OB-47
Black Ops is the kind of game you play for like 200 hours throughout an entire year.
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There saying they have added all this new stuff but all its just the same crap with a different name, just look at the proficiencies there all just perks that were already in the game and have just been moved around so they appear new. Its the same with strike packages. there all the same kill streaks but they have just moved it into packages to make it look new.Graphics areidentical to mw2. Everything is the same. MW3 looks more like a update than a game, what a joke.

Cod is garbage. Cod4 was just a straight copy of other games before it & now the series just copies & pastes itself but gets worse with every iteration. I dont know why you people hype it up as the second coming of god. It was never that good in the 1st place. It has never, ever been on the same level as BF.

Every BF game has beenlight yearsahead of any & every othe MP shooter. I have still yet to see a COD be half as good as any BF game. Cod hasnever evenbeaten theoriginal BF1942, didnt even beat BF1943, let alone every other superior MP experience BF has released. You people need to get over your mediocre FPS game.

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i haven't played a CoD title since 4. I didn't think it was anything special...I take that back I played Block Ops as well and grew bored of it after ten minutes.

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#90 delta3074
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i know since COD 4 that it has held my attention less and less, it may sell shed loads of copies but i bet half of those get traded in within a couple of weeks, it's the same every time, they say it's a different game, i go out and buy it, i play it and think **** it's just another rehash, learnt my lesson this time, ain't goin near MW3, granted i must be pretty stupid for falling for it twice already,lol
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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

And Blops revolutioned the franchise? By what taking parts away from other games like Halo Reach (credit system) a theater mode, gun game from CS? Sure it was fun for a few minutes, but after awhile the shallowness of the game starts to kick in

GTAV2012

Black Ops is the kind of game you play for like 200 hours throughout an entire year.

My Steam account only has 60 hours, and about 40 of those hours are from my friend

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#92 Timstuff
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i know since COD 4 that it has held my attention less and less, it may sell shed loads of copies but i bet half of those get traded in within a couple of weeks, it's the same every time, they say it's a different game, i go out and buy it, i play it and think **** it's just another rehash, learnt my lesson this time, ain't goin near MW3, granted i must be pretty stupid for falling for it twice already,loldelta3074
CoD winning the Military FPS war is kind of like winning the special olympics. I don't think either CoD or BF3 would be able to hold my interest for long. BF3 had more potential, but EA and DICE wasted it by having a half-assed single player campaign and using BF3 as a vehicle to push online passes and Origin when they should have been making improvements to the game itself. Also, why is DICE so allergic to local multiplayer?

As much as I whine and moan about Activision milking COD, I have to admit they're pretty much untouchable when it comes to military FPS. They offer a very compelling package if you're into that sort of thing-- local multiplayer, no online passes, lots of modes, etc. I may not have the fondest feelings for the series, but there are some pretty good reasons why EA cannot topple it, and EA is directly responsible for most of those reasons. If I want to paly a game with my friends when they visit, am I going to buy the game that has tons of local co-op and competetive modes, or the one that can only be played online? EA can act like online and online passes are the future as much as they want, but that won't change the fact that they are going to keep getting outsold by the game that still has local play and none of this online pass / origin BS.

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#93 Moriarity_
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Much like people didn't expect Black Ops to even contend with the rest of the FPS (like Halo: Reach), it came out, revolutionized the CoD franchise, GTAV2012
How exactly did black ops revolutionize cod? It was just a carbon copy of MW2 with different campaign setting, slightly different and rehashed maps, and some new gun models. You can have fun playing a game that came out 4 years ago. I'll have fun playing Skyrim, Skyward sword, and other new games.
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#94 meetroid8
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I'd rather play just about any other FPS, and that is all that matters.
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#95 dantesergei
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the best of the average you mean.
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#96 Deniable_Ops
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Call of Duty has been consistently excellent, BF3 pretty much flopped in every way imaginable, the campaign is one of the most boring I've ever played, the scores were disappointing, the problems with EA's servers (to be fair, this is a problem with EVERY EA game lol)
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#97 Nerd_Man
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People don't actually read reviews. " Battlefield 3's competitive multiplayer is among the best in its class, providing immensely rich and immersive combat zones." Sounds like it has one of the best online multiplayer's around.
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#98 wis3boi
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People don't actually read reviews. " Battlefield 3's competitive multiplayer is among the best in its class, providing immensely rich and immersive combat zones." Sounds like it has one of the best online multiplayer's around.Nerd_Man


people cherry pick quotes, dont read the entire review, and anything less thana 9.5 is garbage. Welcome to the elite group of the gaming community, where popularity reigns over any other factor.

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[QUOTE="GTAV2012"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

And Blops revolutioned the franchise? By what taking parts away from other games like Halo Reach (credit system) a theater mode, gun game from CS? Sure it was fun for a few minutes, but after awhile the shallowness of the game starts to kick in

OB-47

Black Ops is the kind of game you play for like 200 hours throughout an entire year.

My Steam account only has 60 hours, and about 40 of those hours are from my friend

Lol I think I got even less than that. I didnt even prestige. Got too bored.

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#100 alexside1
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[QUOTE="alexside1"]How exactly are they deceiving?foxhound_fox
By releasing the same game with a new name and new maps.

Like battle field 3 with bigger maps and jets? Also you did it again.