so is goldeneye,no more heroes proof that wii games have low standards?

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#1 ps2snesgod
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goldeneye on wii it got an 81 and on hdtwins it got a 72

hotd overkill got a 78 on wii and a 75 on ps3

no more heroes got a 83 on wii and a 72 on ps3

dead space extraction somehow got an 83 on wii and isnt even a full fledged game on ps3....

seriously i hope that wii u is far superior

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#2 ps2snesgod
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my source is metacritic.com and also all of the games mentioned above not only have better graphics but additions to the game with the exxceptaion of dead space extraction

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#3 glez13
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We all know that the Wii is no PS3, the best system of the generation.

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#4 layton2012
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Or it could be less effort was put into the hd versions.
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#5 lightleggy
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yeah kind of actually.
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#6 lightleggy
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Or it could be less effort was put into the hd versions.layton2012
no, he has a point...have you played goldeneye for 360/ps3? its actually better than the wii version in every way.
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[QUOTE="layton2012"]Or it could be less effort was put into the hd versions.lightleggy
no, he has a point...have you played goldeneye for 360/ps3? its actually better than the wii version in every way.

Why, because of more content and HD? Those don't always equal a better game.

That and the HD versions have on-disc DLC unlike the Wii version.

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#8 glez13
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="layton2012"]Or it could be less effort was put into the hd versions.nintendoboy16

no, he has a point...have you played goldeneye for 360/ps3? its actually better than the wii version in every way.

Why, because of more content and HD? Those don't always equal a better game.

That and the HD versions have on-disc DLC unlike the Wii version.

Wait...so are you trying to counter more content and HD with on-disc DLC.:|

Nintendo fanboys.:lol:

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#9 turtlethetaffer
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No More Heroes is one of the best and most unqieu games of the generation...

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#10 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] no, he has a point...have you played goldeneye for 360/ps3? its actually better than the wii version in every way.glez13

Why, because of more content and HD? Those don't always equal a better game.

That and the HD versions have on-disc DLC unlike the Wii version.

Wait...so are you trying to counter more content and HD with on-disc DLC.:|

Nintendo fanboys.:lol:

No, first off. I mentioned that just because a certain version of said game has better graphics and more content =/= a better game. There are Metal Gear Solid fans who think MGS: Twin Snakes on Gamecube is total crap compared to the PSOne original as an example. Heck, I love Gauntlet Dark Legacy on the PS2, but I still found Legends on N64 to be the better game.

Second off, I mentioned that the HD versions had a flaw the Wii version didn't have, that being: on-disc DLC.

How was I trying to debunk one point by mentioning the other there? That wasn't even my intention. :|

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#11 fadersdream
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No More Heroes is one of the best and most unqieu games of the generation...

turtlethetaffer
you owe me $20.
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#12 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

No More Heroes is one of the best and most unqieu games of the generation...

fadersdream

you owe me $20.

Um what?

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#13 fadersdream
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[QUOTE="fadersdream"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

No More Heroes is one of the best and most unqieu games of the generation...

turtlethetaffer

you owe me $20.

Um what?

It was lies like this that convinced to buy no more heroes in the first place. I paid $20, give me $20.
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I am pretty sure that if the Wii had lower standards Xenoblade would not have gotten a spot over all the AAA PS3 exclusives got in the GOTY nominations.

Standards increase over time.

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#15 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="fadersdream"] you owe me $20.fadersdream

Um what?

It was lies like this that convinced to buy no more heroes in the first place. I paid $20, give me $20.

I don't know what your problem is, but the two NMH games are great, I don't regret buying them at all.

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#16 SPYDER0416
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Both of those games are pretty good actually, and the games industry already has a pretty skewed rating system so its not "lower standards" just because you don't like it and its 81. That's the sort of argument an elitist makes so he can feel better about himself, and its pretty dumb.

Those games would be just as fun on PS3, maybe looked down upon for their graphics, but otherwise still fun. CoD4 on the Wii got roasted for being inferior to the PC and big boy console versions (supporting less players and not being nearly as pretty or easy to control), so standards might be a bit different in terms of graphical fidelity, but I think the gameplay is what most people judge games on anywas in reviews.

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#17 oillort
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Most Nintendo fans are kids, and it's not nice to troll kids.

That's why journalists score Wii games higher than they deserve.

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#18 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="layton2012"]Or it could be less effort was put into the hd versions.nintendoboy16

no, he has a point...have you played goldeneye for 360/ps3? its actually better than the wii version in every way.

Why, because of more content and HD? Those don't always equal a better game.

That and the HD versions have on-disc DLC unlike the Wii version.

but the problem here is that aside from graphics they are completly the same game...the only thing improving are graphics and a bit more content, they are not changing the mechanics or anything like that.
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#19 turtlethetaffer
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Most Nintendo fans are kids, and it's not nice to troll kids.

That's why journalists score Wii games higher than they deserve.

oillort

My troll sensor is going off.

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#20 ugoo18
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[QUOTE="layton2012"]Or it could be less effort was put into the hd versions.lightleggy
no, he has a point...have you played goldeneye for 360/ps3? its actually better than the wii version in every way.

Goldeneye HD

HD visuals

New Mode

Goldeneye Wii

Full Content (No nickel/diming)

Working Online System

Superior Control Method/Options (Wii/PS3)

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#21 GunSmith1_basic
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couldn't the lateness of the HD release affect it too? Just look at the scores of 1st year 360 games compare to what we have now and tell me that standards aren't changing. Also there's just the fact that it isn't as fresh anymore. What you need in order to prove your point is a game that gets released on an HD console first and is later ported to the wii, getting a higher score on the wii. Any changes or improvements would have to be taken into account as well.

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#22 madsnakehhh
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Visuals are the only things that are superior...if that's your thing, then i guess you could say the PS3 are the superior versions.

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#23 D4W1L4H
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  • COD MW3 wii =70
  • COD MW3 PS3/360 = 88
  • MADDEN 11 Wii = 75
  • MADDEN 11 PS3/360 = 83
  • COD WAW Wii = 83
  • COD WAW PS3/360 = 85
  • FIFA Soccer 11 Wii = 73
  • FIFA Socer 11 PS3/360 = 89
  • NFS Hot pursuit Wii = 50
  • NFS Hot pursuit PS3/360 = 89
  • NFS Carbon Wii = 67
  • NFS Carbon PS3/360 = 75
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The Wii Versions 1: Have motion controls, making them more unique. 2. Have better graphics compared to the capability of the system.
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#25 MagnusTheOne
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I believe that what we are seeing is the FAWG factor. It seems that this tends to result in a slightly higher score than the game would have gotten on pretty much any other platform because it just wouldn't be fair to rate it on the same level.

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#26 Demonjoe93
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Most Nintendo fans are kids, and it's not nice to troll kids.

That's why journalists score Wii games higher than they deserve.

oillort

Troll harder kid.

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#27 Demonjoe93
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I thought GoldenEye sucked but No More Heroes was a great game, I don't know why the PS3 version got lower reviews, maybe the PS3 version just wasn't as good.

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#28 meetroid8
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I think that has something to do with the fact that those games were quite old by the time they were remade on PS3/360 and hadn't been improved much. Remakes are never going to score as well as the originals, at least they shouldn't.
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#29 turtlethetaffer
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I think that has something to do with the fact that those games were quite old by the time they were remade on PS3/360 and hadn't been improved much. Remakes are never going to score as well as the originals, at least they shouldn't. meetroid8

IDK what about something like REmake? That was a true remake, actually changing many things while keeping the core elements intact.

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="layton2012"]Or it could be less effort was put into the hd versions.nintendoboy16

no, he has a point...have you played goldeneye for 360/ps3? its actually better than the wii version in every way.

Why, because of more content and HD? Those don't always equal a better game.

That and the HD versions have on-disc DLC unlike the Wii version.

You're forgetting about the improved framerate the hd versions had. Wii version was a slideshow.
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#31 MFDOOM1983
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Visuals are the only things that are superior...if that's your thing, then i guess you could say the PS3 are the superior versions.

madsnakehhh
Both goldeneye and overkill ran like crap on Wii. Which quite frankly made the games(overkill more so) unplayable for me.
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#32 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] no, he has a point...have you played goldeneye for 360/ps3? its actually better than the wii version in every way.MFDOOM1983

Why, because of more content and HD? Those don't always equal a better game.

That and the HD versions have on-disc DLC unlike the Wii version.

You're forgetting about the improved framerate the hd versions had. Wii version was a slideshow.

No it wasn't. It moved just fine for me. Sure it had framerate issues, but they aren't anywhere near as bad as you're proclaiming as they were pretty small.

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#33 ActicEdge
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No. You would have to use games that launched the same year to even try that bit.

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#34 arkephonic
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The standards for Wii games have always been lower....

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#35 fadersdream
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[QUOTE="fadersdream"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Um what?

turtlethetaffer

It was lies like this that convinced to buy no more heroes in the first place. I paid $20, give me $20.

I don't know what your problem is, but the two NMH games are great, I don't regret buying them at all.

My problem is that they were not very good, people hyped them up to be better than they are, when they are only better than most Wii crap, and therefore I bought it thinking it would be a good game. You owe me $20. Pay up.
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#36 ChikaraShref
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="fadersdream"] It was lies like this that convinced to buy no more heroes in the first place. I paid $20, give me $20.fadersdream

I don't know what your problem is, but the two NMH games are great, I don't regret buying them at all.

My problem is that they were not very good, people hyped them up to be better than they are, when they are only better than most Wii crap, and therefore I bought it thinking it would be a good game. You owe me $20. Pay up.

so you took the opinion of a random person on the internet you dont know as fact and now you feel he owes you money.

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#37 GreekGameManiac
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Um.no,not really.

It depends on the game.

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#38 parkurtommo
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Most Nintendo fans are kids, and it's not nice to troll kids.

That's why journalists score Wii games higher than they deserve.

oillort
No, sheep are almost always adults, blinded by nostalgia. They only stick with nintendo because they played nintendo games in their early days, otherwise they'd be playing exbaux or teh plaistatioun
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#39 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] Why, because of more content and HD? Those don't always equal a better game.

That and the HD versions have on-disc DLC unlike the Wii version.

nintendoboy16

You're forgetting about the improved framerate the hd versions had. Wii version was a slideshow.

No it wasn't. It moved just fine for me. Sure it had framerate issues

So it did have issues for you.

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#40 APiranhaAteMyVa
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Comparing Metacritic scores isn't a good idea, as they have different reviewers. Like Nintendo magazine might review the Wii version giving it a 10, but the PS3 magazine only gives the PS3 version a 7 or whatever, different reviewers. Even when comparing Gamespot reviews they are sometimes different reviewers so they can't always be directly compared.

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I take it as proof that games designed for wii do not port that well because of the lack of controll options.

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#42 Arach666
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="fadersdream"] you owe me $20.fadersdream

Um what?

It was lies like this that convinced to buy no more heroes in the first place. I paid $20, give me $20.

Man,if only I could get the money I spent on Nier after all the praise I´ve seen here in this forum lol...

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I take it as proof that games designed for wii do not port that well because of the lack of controll options.

Mercenary848
All four games in OP are move enabled games that deliver the same experience as wm+.
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#44 Bigboi500
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Lower standards in graphics, obviously. Those games came out much later on other systems, hence the lower score.

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#45 Nanomage
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Lower standards in graphics, obviously. Those games came out much later on other systems, hence the lower score.

Bigboi500

Coming later isn´t really a factor to lower the score tbh,plenty of games have come later in other systems and scored the same or better than the original releases.

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#46 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Lower standards in graphics, obviously. Those games came out much later on other systems, hence the lower score.

Nanomage

Coming later isn´t really a factor to lower the score tbh,plenty of games have come later in other systems and scored the same or better than the original releases.

Yes it is because standards change constantly.

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#47 Kaze_no_Mirai
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Lower standards in graphics, obviously. Those games came out much later on other systems, hence the lower score.

Nanomage

Coming later isn´t really a factor to lower the score tbh,plenty of games have come later in other systems and scored the same or better than the original releases.

It DOES factor in.
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#48 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Lower standards in graphics, obviously. Those games came out much later on other systems, hence the lower score.

Nanomage

Coming later isn´t really a factor to lower the score tbh,plenty of games have come later in other systems and scored the same or better than the original releases.

True,it still makes some diference though.
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#49 WarTornRuston
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Yep. Sheep standards are really really really low if you ask me.

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#50 Pikminmaniac
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Or it's just that these games were already out and just rereleased on the HD consoles and that's why their scores are lower. Take Mass Effect 2 for example. It came out on 360 first and has a 95.66 yet the PS3 version has 93.17. This doesn't mean the PS3 has higher standards.