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#1 sonicthemegaman
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with its new line-up of exclusives, who still thinks wii is for casuals or is it now(assuming it ever wasnt) a hardcore gaming console?

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I will not be dragged into this, as I know just how this will end.

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causal with hardcore tendencies.
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I would argue that the Wii is MORE hardcore than PS3 or Xbox 360. The Wii is place to be for 2D fighters and SHMUPs this generation, and back in my day, that's what we considered "hardcore". Geometry Wars Galaxies, Guilty Gear XX Accent Core, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Gyrostarr, Star Soldier R, Castle of Shikigami III, Blastworks, The House of the Dead Overkill, Samurai Shodown Anthology, The King of Fighters Collection, Metal Slug Anthology...
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I own a Wii and a PS3 and I use my Wii more. For all types of games. It's a great system.

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I would argue that the Wii is MORE hardcore than PS3 or Xbox 360. The Wii is place to be for 2D fighters and SHMUPs this generation, and back in my day, that's what we considered "hardcore". Geometry Wars Galaxies, Guilty Gear XX Accent Core, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Gyrostarr, Star Soldier R, Castle of Shikigami III, Blastworks, The House of the Dead Overkill, Samurai Shodown Anthology, The King of Fighters Collection, Metal Slug Anthology...savebattery
I agree it is also getting Rail Shooters like Sin & Punishment and hopefully Star Fox those are Hardcore with alot of enemies on the screen. But Rail Shooters are still SHMUPs the only difference is the camera is behind the character instead of either being from a top-down view or side view.

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It's for people who thinks the games appeal to them.
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I would argue that the Wii is MORE hardcore than PS3 or Xbox 360. The Wii is place to be for 2D fighters and SHMUPs this generation, and back in my day, that's what we considered "hardcore". Geometry Wars Galaxies, Guilty Gear XX Accent Core, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Gyrostarr, Star Soldier R, Castle of Shikigami III, Blastworks, The House of the Dead Overkill, Samurai Shodown Anthology, The King of Fighters Collection, Metal Slug Anthology...savebattery
some of those are for Ps2. im playing GGXX on ps2. just got all ex forms. I main Zappa.
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[QUOTE="savebattery"]I would argue that the Wii is MORE hardcore than PS3 or Xbox 360. The Wii is place to be for 2D fighters and SHMUPs this generation, and back in my day, that's what we considered "hardcore". Geometry Wars Galaxies, Guilty Gear XX Accent Core, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Gyrostarr, Star Soldier R, Castle of Shikigami III, Blastworks, The House of the Dead Overkill, Samurai Shodown Anthology, The King of Fighters Collection, Metal Slug Anthology...sonicthemegaman
some of those are for Ps2. im playing GGXX on ps2. just got all ex forms. I main Zappa.

But still they are still Hardcore games or used to be considered hardcore games.

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[QUOTE="savebattery"]I would argue that the Wii is MORE hardcore than PS3 or Xbox 360. The Wii is place to be for 2D fighters and SHMUPs this generation, and back in my day, that's what we considered "hardcore". Geometry Wars Galaxies, Guilty Gear XX Accent Core, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Gyrostarr, Star Soldier R, Castle of Shikigami III, Blastworks, The House of the Dead Overkill, Samurai Shodown Anthology, The King of Fighters Collection, Metal Slug Anthology...sonicthemegaman
some of those are for Ps2. im playing GGXX on ps2. just got all ex forms. I main Zappa.

I wasn't comparing it to PS2.
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The Wii is quite literally for everyone, that includes the hardcore. Luckily, Nintendo has some good 3rd party games to back up their AAA offerings. They are now finally able to bring every crowd into the gaming world. I'm interested to see where they go from here.

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It's for people who thinks the games appeal to them.OreoMilkshake
This was going to be my answer.
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[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="savebattery"]I would argue that the Wii is MORE hardcore than PS3 or Xbox 360. The Wii is place to be for 2D fighters and SHMUPs this generation, and back in my day, that's what we considered "hardcore". Geometry Wars Galaxies, Guilty Gear XX Accent Core, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Gyrostarr, Star Soldier R, Castle of Shikigami III, Blastworks, The House of the Dead Overkill, Samurai Shodown Anthology, The King of Fighters Collection, Metal Slug Anthology...savebattery
some of those are for Ps2. im playing GGXX on ps2. just got all ex forms. I main Zappa.

I wasn't comparing it to PS2.

i was just stating that you dont need a wii for that game. how does GG play on wii anyway? there aren't any control problems right?
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#14 savebattery
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[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"] some of those are for Ps2. im playing GGXX on ps2. just got all ex forms. I main Zappa.sonicthemegaman
I wasn't comparing it to PS2.

i was just stating that you dont need a wii for that game. how does GG play on wii anyway? there aren't any control problems right?

I use an arcade stick, so it controls fine for me. It works fine with the Classic and Gamecube controllers, too.
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Looking at the line up I still think its for casuals! None of the titles exactly scream "hardcore".

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the wii is a twist between the hardcore gamecube and the casual ps2

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#17 savebattery
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Looking at the line up I still think its for casuals! None of the titles exactly scream "hardcore".

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Define "hardcore". When I think "hardcore" I think of the Neo Geo MVS/AES and the Saturn. Definitely not the PS3 or Xbox 360.
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#18 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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with its new line-up of exclusives, who still thinks wii is for casuals or is it now(assuming it ever wasnt) a hardcore gaming console?

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more then ever, why do u even ask
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#19 foxhound_fox
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The 360 is "casual." The Wii is for "non-gamers."

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#20 savebattery
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The Wii is for "non-gamers."

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Yeah, the grandmas go wild for Sin and Punishment, MadWorld, Geometry Wars, Tatsunoko Vs Capcom, Castle of Shikigami III, and Guilty Gear.
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casual, with some core casual games for long time Nintendo fans.
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Yeah, the grandmas go wild for Sin and Punishment, MadWorld, Geometry Wars, Tatsunoko Vs Capcom, Castle of Shikigami III, and Guilty Gear.savebattery

They don't... but the focus of Nintendo's efforts has been on capturing and settling in a new market. The grandma market.

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#23 PC360Wii
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

The Wii is for "non-gamers."

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Yeah, the grandmas go wild for Sin and Punishment, MadWorld, Geometry Wars, Tatsunoko Vs Capcom, Castle of Shikigami III, and Guilty Gear.

Whoa congrats, you listed a minority selection of games to foward a console perception? cmon. the Wii's success and selling point is LARGLY down to the non-core-gamers. And 2D games do not = hardcore NOW, keywords mate "back in MY day" yea? same for me? I dont see how MARIO can ever be considered hardcore EVER tbh. he wasnt on the NES/SNES and certainly isnt now.
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#24 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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They don't... but the focus of Nintendo's efforts has been on capturing and settling in a new market. The grandma market.foxhound_fox
Nah. The Grandma market is more interested in a Neverending Story rip-off.
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#25 LittleHands134
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All consoles are casual.
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[QUOTE="savebattery"]Yeah, the grandmas go wild for Sin and Punishment, MadWorld, Geometry Wars, Tatsunoko Vs Capcom, Castle of Shikigami III, and Guilty Gear.foxhound_fox


They don't... but the focus of Nintendo's efforts has been on capturing and settling in a new market. The grandma market.

Nintendo has cranked out more "core" first party game than they did for Gamecube or Nintendo 64 at the same point in their respective lifespans. Twilight Princess, Paper Mario, galaxy, Fire Emblem, Animal Crossing, Punch-Out, Excitetruck/bots, Battalion Wars, Prime 3, Brawl, Mario Kart, etc.

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#27 savebattery
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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"] And 2D games do not = hardcore NOW, keywords mate "back in MY day" yea? same for me? I dont see how MARIO can ever be considered hardcore EVER tbh. he wasnt on the NES/SNES and certainly isnt now.

Hardcore, to me, is demonstrated in how much skill it takes to be competitive in a game. 2D fighters are still deeper and more complex than most other genres out there.
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Nah. The Grandma market is more interested in a Neverending Story rip-off.IronBass

:lol:

Your sarcastic humour is quite funny.

Nintendo has cranked out more "core" first party game than they did for Gamecube or Nintendo 64 at the same point in their respective lifespans. Twilight Princess, Paper Mario, galaxy, Fire Emblem, Animal Crossing, Punch-Out, Excitetruck/bots, Battalion Wars, Prime 3, Brawl, Mario Kart, etc.

savebattery


And? That still doesn't stop them from putting a lot of focus on providing games for their new market and doing nothing to counter the non-gamer image they have developed.

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[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"] And 2D games do not = hardcore NOW, keywords mate "back in MY day" yea? same for me? I dont see how MARIO can ever be considered hardcore EVER tbh. he wasnt on the NES/SNES and certainly isnt now.

Hardcore, to me, is demonstrated in how much skill it takes to be competitive in a game. 2D fighters are still deeper and more complex than most other genres out there.

Maybe so, but the realm of competition has improved greatly, and the Nintendo Wii is NOT the system that offers this, terrible online one GIANT flaw, the only near acceptable "competitive online" game I've played n the Wii is Mario Kart... and lets face it, its not exactly built for skill. But its online just about *scrapes* bottom average and could of been better. Theres more to it than just games, industry standards have changed aswell, Online records/Play is the new "SCORE" keeping of the hardcore days, something NINTENDO clearly didnt realize.
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:lol: Your sarcastic humour is quite funny.foxhound_fox
:lol: I wasn't sure you would notice it.
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[QUOTE="savebattery"]Nintendo has cranked out more "core" first party game than they did for Gamecube or Nintendo 64 at the same point in their respective lifespans. Twilight Princess, Paper Mario, galaxy, Fire Emblem, Animal Crossing, Punch-Out, Excitetruck/bots, Battalion Wars, Prime 3, Brawl, Mario Kart, etc.foxhound_fox
And? That still doesn't stop them from putting a lot of focus on providing games for their new market and doing nothing to counter the non-gamer image they have developed.

Real hardcore gamers don't give a rat's ass about focus or perception. They care about getting good games. I've never cared if the game I was playing was marketed well or popular. WiiFit doesn't subtract from the fun I have with Fire Emblem.
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Yes, it definitely is but who said that is a bad thing. It has a decent library so far IMO. Also the Wii offers me a different variety of quality games with a different experience I don't get on the PS3/360. I don't care for it's "Casual" offerings but it has enough "Core" games to keep me playing it.
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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"] And 2D games do not = hardcore NOW, keywords mate "back in MY day" yea? same for me? I dont see how MARIO can ever be considered hardcore EVER tbh. he wasnt on the NES/SNES and certainly isnt now.savebattery
Hardcore, to me, is demonstrated in how much skill it takes to be competitive in a game. 2D fighters are still deeper and more complex than most other genres out there.

SF4,BB, & KoFXII are all for Wii right?
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WOW. I cannot beleive no one has noticed this yet. All Nintendo's exclusives are announced at the same time, every is saying "All hail Nintendo". Yet 2 years roll around, and no exclusivess, and we get a nice 2008 repeat in 2011.Then, again, "Nintendo sucks, down with Nintendo." 2012 E3 rolls in, same franchises exclusives... it starts again.

Really, Nintendo has 0 pacing. Their E3 designer should be beat to death with a Wiimote. Blotch of exclusives, dry patch, blotch of exclusives... continue.

And we get rabid Nintendo "lovers" saying it's "hardcore" again. It's not, it's an oasis in the desert. You watch, 2011 sucks for Nintendo.

*Rant end*

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[QUOTE="muzik_mafia"]

WOW. I cannot beleive no one has noticed this yet. All Nintendo's exclusives are announced at the same time, every is saying "All hail Nintendo". Yet 2 years roll around, and no exclusivess, and we get a nice 2008 repeat in 2011.Then, again, "Nintendo sucks, down with Nintendo." 2012 E3 rolls in, same franchises exclusives... it starts again.

Really, Nintendo has 0 pacing. Their E3 designer should be beat to death with a Wiimote. Blotch of exclusives, dry patch, blotch of exclusives... continue.

And we get rabid Nintendo "lovers" saying it's "hardcore" again. It's not, it's an oasis in the desert. You watch, 2011 sucks for Nintendo.

*Rant end*

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the wii is a twist between the hardcore gamecube and the casual ps2

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Why do sheep know nothing about the PS2 library?

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#37 sonicthemegaman
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="DeadEndPanda"]

the wii is a twist between the hardcore gamecube and the casual ps2

Why do sheep know nothing about the PS2 library?

Cause when I say Jak 2, sheep say, "Bah?"
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="DeadEndPanda"]

the wii is a twist between the hardcore gamecube and the casual ps2

sonicthemegaman

Why do sheep know nothing about the PS2 library?

Cause when I say Jak 2, sheep say, "Bah?"

... What?

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The Wii will always be casual because: #1 Nobody on System Wars ever admits to being wrong #2 It's is Nintendo. Even if it isn't casual they'll just go back to calling it "teh kiddie" #3 Assuming that there are good games on the Wii, which is impossible, they would look better on 360/PS3 therefore they are casual shovelware
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[QUOTE="savebattery"]I would argue that the Wii is MORE hardcore than PS3 or Xbox 360. The Wii is place to be for 2D fighters and SHMUPs this generation, and back in my day, that's what we considered "hardcore". Geometry Wars Galaxies, Guilty Gear XX Accent Core, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Gyrostarr, Star Soldier R, Castle of Shikigami III, Blastworks, The House of the Dead Overkill, Samurai Shodown Anthology, The King of Fighters Collection, Metal Slug Anthology...Nintendo_Ownes7

I agree it is also getting Rail Shooters like Sin & Punishment and hopefully Star Fox those are Hardcore with alot of enemies on the screen. But Rail Shooters are still SHMUPs the only difference is the camera is behind the character instead of either being from a top-down view or side view.

I was literally about to write this, you took the words right out of my mouth. Also I'd like to go even further by saying that the "hardcore" 360 and PS3 games (ie. Halo, Cod4, GeOW2, GTA4, etc.) are just as casual as minigame compilations, they just appeal to a different group of casuals (college Fratboys come to mind) and to some core gamers as well. Just think of how mainstream and toned down gameplay wise shooters have become, and how even nongamers love boobs, blood, and cursing. While on the on the wii there are tons of niche games that are the exact opposite of mainstream with extreme difficulty levels and complex gameplay. Not to mention the ton of old virtual console games like Zelda and super metroid

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It isn't casual if you dont' buy casual games. You people do realize that when you buy your Wii, you aren't forced into buying Carnival games and Super Baby Land, right? The Wii is only casual if you make it that way. My Wii is pretty hardcore (my goodness that sounded suggestive!)

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#42 sonicthemegaman
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It isn't casual if you dont' buy casual games. You people do realize that when you buy your Wii, you aren't forced into buying Carnival games and Super Baby Land, right? The Wii is only casual if you make it that way. My Wii is pretty hardcore (my goodness that sounded suggestive!)

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the line-up says something different. Metroid Other M was the only good looking Wii game at Big N's E3. besides, what are the Wii's "good" games cause I sure dont really like what the wii offers. keep in mind my OP was just a question. im only expressing my opinion cause it seemed necessary at this point.
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#43 sonicthemegaman
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[QUOTE="unknown37"]

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

I would argue that the Wii is MORE hardcore than PS3 or Xbox 360. The Wii is place to be for 2D fighters and SHMUPs this generation, and back in my day, that's what we considered "hardcore". Geometry Wars Galaxies, Guilty Gear XX Accent Core, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Gyrostarr, Star Soldier R, Castle of Shikigami III, Blastworks, The House of the Dead Overkill, Samurai Shodown Anthology, The King of Fighters Collection, Metal Slug Anthology...savebattery
I agree it is also getting Rail Shooters like Sin & Punishment and hopefully Star Fox those are Hardcore with alot of enemies on the screen. But Rail Shooters are still SHMUPs the only difference is the camera is behind the character instead of either being from a top-down view or side view.

I was literally about to write this, you took the words right out of my mouth. Also I'd like to go even further by saying that the "hardcore" 360 and PS3 games (ie. Halo, Cod4, GeOW2, GTA4, etc.) are just as casual as minigame compilations, they just appeal to a different group of casuals (college Fratboys come to mind) and to some core gamers as well. Just think of how mainstream and toned down gameplay wise shooters have become, and how even nongamers love boobs, blood, and cursing. While on the on the wii there are tons of niche games that are the exact opposite of mainstream with extreme difficulty levels and complex gameplay. Not to mention the ton of old virtual console games like Zelda and super metroid

Thats games in general. Wii is no gaming savior. PS3/360 have through niche titles to. in fact, with what you said, PS2 is the best system cause it meants those standards. just look at P4.
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with its new line-up of exclusives, who still thinks wii is for casuals or is it now(assuming it ever wasnt) a hardcore gaming console?

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Yes, it is still casual.
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#45 Z0MBIES
Member since 2005 • 2246 Posts
The Wii will always be casual with games like Super Mario and other cute, cartoony characters, and the general idea of a system is usually defined by the top rated, or more often, the top sellers of that system, best example being the XBOX, which practically screams Halo/fps as those are its most popular, and perhaps system defining games. If you look at what people think of when they see a Wii, they think of Wii sports or maybe Wii Fit and Mario and his friends, all of which are pretty casual. Sure there will be "niche" games or a few hardcore games, but in the end, the system is defined by generalities, and the Wii has casual/non-gamer titles at the top. There are only a few upcoming games for the Wii that could be considered hardcore (Metroid). After all there is a reason the Wii is very rarely used in competitive gaming.
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#46 Espada12
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All consoles are for casuals......... I don't see why everyone is point fingers at the Wii. The wii just has more casual/ non-gamer games than the 360/Ps3 but that doesn't change the fact they are all casual. Metroid the other M and the two new marios are gonna pwn though.

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#47 unknown37
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[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="unknown37"]

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]I agree it is also getting Rail Shooters like Sin & Punishment and hopefully Star Fox those are Hardcore with alot of enemies on the screen. But Rail Shooters are still SHMUPs the only difference is the camera is behind the character instead of either being from a top-down view or side view.

I was literally about to write this, you took the words right out of my mouth. Also I'd like to go even further by saying that the "hardcore" 360 and PS3 games (ie. Halo, Cod4, GeOW2, GTA4, etc.) are just as casual as minigame compilations, they just appeal to a different group of casuals (college Fratboys come to mind) and to some core gamers as well. Just think of how mainstream and toned down gameplay wise shooters have become, and how even nongamers love boobs, blood, and cursing. While on the on the wii there are tons of niche games that are the exact opposite of mainstream with extreme difficulty levels and complex gameplay. Not to mention the ton of old virtual console games like Zelda and super metroid

Thats games in general. Wii is no gaming savior. PS3/360 have through niche titles to. in fact, with what you said, PS2 is the best system cause it meants those standards. just look at P4.

What does a last gen system have 2 do with me thinking the wii has more hardcore games than ps3 and 360? and yes I own Persona 4
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#48 LOXO7
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The majority of Wii owners are casuals. How can any amount of games change this?

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#49 JLF1
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I would argue that the Wii is MORE hardcore than PS3 or Xbox 360. The Wii is place to be for 2D fighters and SHMUPs this generation, and back in my day, that's what we considered "hardcore". Geometry Wars Galaxies, Guilty Gear XX Accent Core, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Gyrostarr, Star Soldier R, Castle of Shikigami III, Blastworks, The House of the Dead Overkill, Samurai Shodown Anthology, The King of Fighters Collection, Metal Slug Anthology...savebattery


So you agree that the PSP is an awesome handheld for the core gamers then?

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#50 bf2nutta
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Console for Everyone..... what do I win???????