So it turnes out that developing for x360 is harder than PS3.

Factor5 said it, x360 hardware is such a nightmare to work with that when porting an engine to a different console it would be an even bigger nightmare. Even if porting the engine on a high end gaming pc it would still be a nightmare, GRAW anyone?

Ever wonder why Geow is still the best looking game for x360? so how come no other games can even come close to it? Ever wonder why MS gave Epic extra millions to the programmers?  and u know that other devs dont got that kind of money to spend.

even a $4000 gaming pc would have a hard time to run a x360 engine cuz its just weird and complex and here is why: unified architecture is not designed to work with a dx9 gpu and pixel shader3 that x360 has. And you all know that unified arch needs pixel shader 4 and dx10 in order to work right.

do u believe in karma now lemms?

its actually harder developing for the ps3.GsSanAndreas

not when ur working from ground up, the power is there, no need to spend extra millions on programmers to access extra power like geow had to do.

Team ninja, factor5, square, konami  > you

LTread

he said that it's more diffcult to port from xbox to ps since the ps is such a different console hardware wise. the ps works via streaming and xbox via unified ram (correct me if I'm wrong). and so "splitting" up the gpu from the xbox to the ps3 requires some fancy moves. But from the ps3 to xbox you basically stream everything to one source (the 512 unified), and not split 'em up as you would've done on the ps3.

Uh oh, Donts feed da trollLed_poison

you have given up on x360 already?

not even a word to prove it otherwise?

ok, now let's correct you:

the guy from Factor 5 said that it's a pain to get a game made from the start on the 360 to work on the PS3, because the PS3 needs better multicore/paralel processing, so you need to create the game from the start with multicores in mind. That's it, he didn't say it's harder to make games on the 360. What he did say, by the way, is that developing for the PS3 is easier than making a game for the PS2, but didn't compare it to the 360.

Don't feed the troll people!

He's just trying to get attention! 

[QUOTE="Led_poison"]Uh oh, Donts feed da trollGermanShepard06

you have given up on x360 already?

not even a word to prove it otherwise?

Flamebait in it's most obvious form. 

Lex luther: WRONG!

All of you are wrong.

Judging from a wide range of developer interviews, the PS3 is more difficult to take advantage of, but substantially more capable. The Xbox 360 is not difficult to take advantage of. And, judging from the fact that it is overall so similar to PC architecture and that so many PC games are seeing their way to the Xbox 360, this is obviously at least somewhat true. 

Don't feed the troll people!

He's just trying to get attention! 

Huxley_00

or maybe u just want the other lemmings to remain brainwashed cuz u know im right.

u know that every x360 game today should look just as good as geow if not better, but they arent. And u also know that MS aint going to give devs the extra millions they need to spend on programming.

[QUOTE="Huxley_00"]

Don't feed the troll people!

He's just trying to get attention!

GermanShepard06

or maybe u just want the other lemmings to remain brainwashed cuz u know im right.

u know that today every x360 game should look just as good as geow if not better, but they arent.

If the PS3 is superior, then every PS3 game should look better than Gears. Sit down, kid. 

I believe that you have no idea what you're talking about, cow.BigDaddyPOLO

Agree 100% 

So now there's no excuse as to why PS3 ports look so crappy.  It's not that it's hard to develop for, it's just that the PS3 isn't as powerful. 

Self-owned there big guy. 

[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"][QUOTE="Huxley_00"]

Don't feed the troll people!

He's just trying to get attention!

SemiMaster

or maybe u just want the other lemmings to remain brainwashed cuz u know im right.

u know that today every x360 game should look just as good as geow if not better, but they arent.

If the PS3 is superior, then every PS3 game should look better than Gears. Sit down, kid. 

rofl, gears came out a year later after the x360's release, soo when did ps3 come out again?

self-owned.

u know damn well that ps3 is going to have games coming out this year that are going to destroy geow in the graphics department. And thats's with 1000 enemies on screen at once and not just four like in geow.

So now there's no excuse as to why PS3 ports look so crappy.  It's not that it's hard to develop for, it's just that the PS3 isn't as powerful. 

 

Self-owned there big guy. 

rykaziel

rofl, ps3 is not based on last-gen hardware is what they are saying.

self-owned.

[QUOTE="SemiMaster"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"][QUOTE="Huxley_00"]

Don't feed the troll people!

He's just trying to get attention!

GermanShepard06

or maybe u just want the other lemmings to remain brainwashed cuz u know im right.

u know that today every x360 game should look just as good as geow if not better, but they arent.

If the PS3 is superior, then every PS3 game should look better than Gears. Sit down, kid.

rofl, gears came out a year later after the x360's release, soo when did ps3 come out again?

self-owned.

u know damn well that ps3 is going to have games coming out this year that are going to destroy geow in the graphics department. And thats's with 1000 enemies on screen at once and not just four like in geow.

Doesn't matter, does the PS3 have a better looking game than Gears? No, you need to sit down before you own yourself again. 

Considering the 360 is based on PC architecture, no, the 360 would be much easier to develop for than the PS3.

However, PC's are easiest to develop for. PC wins.

[QUOTE="rykaziel"]

So now there's no excuse as to why PS3 ports look so crappy. It's not that it's hard to develop for, it's just that the PS3 isn't as powerful.

 

Self-owned there big guy.

GermanShepard06

rofl, ps3 is not based on last-gen hardware is what they are saying.

self-owned.

But I thought PS3 is easier to develop for?  Shouldn't that mean it's easier to make games look great?  If that's the case, then why don't the games look better?  /boggle 

[QUOTE="SemiMaster"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"][QUOTE="Huxley_00"]

Don't feed the troll people!

He's just trying to get attention!

GermanShepard06

or maybe u just want the other lemmings to remain brainwashed cuz u know im right.

u know that today every x360 game should look just as good as geow if not better, but they arent.

If the PS3 is superior, then every PS3 game should look better than Gears. Sit down, kid.

rofl, gears came out a year later after the x360's release, soo when did ps3 come out again?

self-owned.

u know damn well that ps3 is going to have games coming out this year that are going to destroy geow in the graphics department. And thats's with 1000 enemies on screen at once and not just four like in geow.

You do relize that by the time Lair comes out Mass Effect, Bioshock, and other big titles will have come out for the 360- all look very good. And then Halo is right around the corner.

Lair is one game since it is by Factor 5, by their records, it will look very good and even look pretty ok at the end of this gen. Uts just the gameplay will be average.  

So now there's no excuse as to why PS3 ports look so crappy.  It's not that it's hard to develop for, it's just that the PS3 isn't as powerful. 

 

Self-owned there big guy. 

rykaziel

um.. that's excatly there the reason for xbox -> ps3 multiplats look better on the xbox... It's because it's harder (read developers has to do their job better) to port something "correctly" from xbox to ps3. It appears that some, not all bothers this.

Now let's kill this topic, Ze troll will amke us all look bad :P

[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"][QUOTE="SemiMaster"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"][QUOTE="Huxley_00"]

Don't feed the troll people!

He's just trying to get attention!

SemiMaster

or maybe u just want the other lemmings to remain brainwashed cuz u know im right.

u know that today every x360 game should look just as good as geow if not better, but they arent.

If the PS3 is superior, then every PS3 game should look better than Gears. Sit down, kid.

rofl, gears came out a year later after the x360's release, soo when did ps3 come out again?

self-owned.

u know damn well that ps3 is going to have games coming out this year that are going to destroy geow in the graphics department. And thats's with 1000 enemies on screen at once and not just four like in geow.

Doesn't matter, does the PS3 have a better looking game than Gears? No, you need to sit down before you own yourself again. 

it appears that u were fooled by the NA media and websites.

so how do u explain the 40player online? better animations? better sound? better AI, better physics? all that over geow.

isn't Factor 5 a Sony only developer???

So how exactly would they know anything about the 360?

Sounds like Sony is pushing its Dev's to rag the 360 just like Insomniac's did a few weeks ago.

Factor5 said it, x360 hardware is such a nightmare to work with that when porting an engine to a different console it would be an even bigger nightmare. Even if porting the engine on a high end gaming pc it would still be a nightmare, GRAW anyone?

Ever wonder why Geow is still the best looking game for x360? so how come no other games can even come close to it? Ever wonder why MS gave Epic extra millions to the programmers?  and u know that other devs dont got that kind of money to spend.

even a $4000 gaming pc would have a hard time to run a x360 engine cuz its just weird and complex and here is why: unified architecture is not designed to work with a dx9 gpu and pixel shader3 that x360 has. And you all know that unified arch needs pixel shader 4 and dx10 in order to work right.

do u believe in karma now lemms?

GermanShepard06

You read the Factor 5 Interview wrong. Go back and read it again. They said that developer needed to make their games on the PS3 first because it would be hard as hell trying to port the XBox 360 games to the PS3 due to memory buffer limitations on the PS3.  It's actually harder to program games on the PS3. Why do you think Capcom isn't porting Dead Rising and Lost Planet to the PS3. Because it would be a nightmare to port it over. This is why they have no problems making DMC4 for the XBox 360. Get your facts straight.

Wow you have no idea what you are talking about.twopic58

and you are living in a world full of lies and deception, all that can be done with the power of money.

i think you misunderstood them

[QUOTE="twopic58"]Wow you have no idea what you are talking about.GermanShepard06

and you are living in a world full of lies and deception, all that can be done with the power of money.

You do know which company has more money, right? 

[QUOTE="rykaziel"]

So now there's no excuse as to why PS3 ports look so crappy.  It's not that it's hard to develop for, it's just that the PS3 isn't as powerful. 

 

Self-owned there big guy. 

raualex

um.. that's excatly there the reason for xbox -> ps3 multiplats look better on the xbox... It's because it's harder (read developers has to do their job better) to port something "correctly" from xbox to ps3. It appears that some, not all bothers this.

Now let's kill this topic, Ze troll will amke us all look bad :P

I believe that you have no idea what you're talking about, cow.BigDaddyPOLO

So now there's no excuse as to why PS3 ports look so crappy. It's not that it's hard to develop for, it's just that the PS3 isn't as powerful.

 

Self-owned there big guy.

rykaziel

thanks for the laugh, I needed it.acekall

its actually harder developing for the ps3.GsSanAndreas

 LoL TC is clueless.
 

Factor5 said it, x360 hardware is such a nightmare to work with that when porting an engine to a different console it would be an even bigger nightmare. Even if porting the engine on a high end gaming pc it would still be a nightmare, GRAW anyone?

Ever wonder why Geow is still the best looking game for x360? so how come no other games can even come close to it? Ever wonder why MS gave Epic extra millions to the programmers?  and u know that other devs dont got that kind of money to spend.

even a $4000 gaming pc would have a hard time to run a x360 engine cuz its just weird and complex and here is why: unified architecture is not designed to work with a dx9 gpu and pixel shader3 that x360 has. And you all know that unified arch needs pixel shader 4 and dx10 in order to work right.

do u believe in karma now lemms?

GermanShepard06

look fanboy, I stopped reading after you spelt turns wrong...in the board title

[QUOTE="rykaziel"]

So now there's no excuse as to why PS3 ports look so crappy. It's not that it's hard to develop for, it's just that the PS3 isn't as powerful.

 

Self-owned there big guy.

chester706

lol yep

[QUOTE="SemiMaster"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"][QUOTE="SemiMaster"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"][QUOTE="Huxley_00"]

Don't feed the troll people!

He's just trying to get attention!

GermanShepard06

or maybe u just want the other lemmings to remain brainwashed cuz u know im right.

u know that today every x360 game should look just as good as geow if not better, but they arent.

If the PS3 is superior, then every PS3 game should look better than Gears. Sit down, kid.

rofl, gears came out a year later after the x360's release, soo when did ps3 come out again?

self-owned.

u know damn well that ps3 is going to have games coming out this year that are going to destroy geow in the graphics department. And thats's with 1000 enemies on screen at once and not just four like in geow.

Doesn't matter, does the PS3 have a better looking game than Gears? No, you need to sit down before you own yourself again.

it appears that u were fooled by the NA media and websites.

so how do u explain the 40player online? better animations? better sound? better AI, better physics? all that over geow.