So lemmings are actually mebracing this natal idea?

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#1 humber_matus
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Honestly? ... you were making fun of sheep for flailing their arms around like idiots with a device that barely works and you are embracing this thing?Can't ye see this is the one of the first steps to casualising the gaming audience with gimicky games. And yes i know, sony is quilty of this too with the six axis and eye toy.

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#2 TBoogy
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I thinnk you nailed it. The Wii's barely works.

What was demoed here worked like a charm.

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#3 shadow8585
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Honestly? ... you were making fun of sheep for flailing their arms around like idiots with a device that barely works and you are embracing this thing?Can't ye see this is the one of the first steps to casualising the gaming audience with gimicky games. And yes i know, sony is quilty of this too with the six axis and eye toy.

humber_matus
Big difference between flailing your arms around and moving your entire body around with nothing in your hands IMO. If MS announced a Wii-like controller we would probably all be bashing it
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#4 deangallop
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There is a difference between embracing and keeping an open mind. Seriously, just because you don't call it crap does not mean that you think it's the holy grail.

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#5 Vaasman
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I've probably seen 5 anti-natal threads compared to 1 or 2 pro-natal thread in the past 5 minutes so if you ask me the one's embracing it are 360 bashers, desperate to ignore the great games MS showed off.

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Honestly? ... you were making fun of sheep for flailing their arms around like idiots with a device that barely works and you are embracing this thing?Can't ye see this is the one of the first steps to casualising the gaming audience with gimicky games. And yes i know, sony is quilty of this too with the six axis and eye toy.

humber_matus

I didnt make fun of sheep. Dont speak for everyone here.

I think its a cool idea.....

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#7 humber_matus
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I thinnk you nailed it. The Wii's barely works.

What was demoed here worked like a charm.

TBoogy
do you remember when they first showed off the wii remote? ... i could of swore i saw 1:1 recognition there. And even if this thing was 1:1 recognition. the idea of doing things like that in a regular room/ living room is just stupid. Most people can barely fit a table between the tv and the couch.
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#8 quizee
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who cares this camera is only gonna be used for like party games and arcade games. If they used it for a full 60$$$ ddollar M rated shooterf than id be interested in it

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#9 clubsammich91
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Pretty much. Like I said anything on the 360 is "edgy" and "cool" and in this case a "revolution in gaming"
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#10 VinxVince
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For one they can make games where you are the character and the other characters talk to you! They recognize you and know you! That is awesome.
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#11 screechmario
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Lems dont like flailing with their arms... they like full body flailing!

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#12 humber_matus
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I've probably seen 5 anti-natal threads compared to 1 or 2 pro-natal thread in the past 5 minutes so if you ask me the one's embracing it are 360 bashers, desperate to ignore the great games MS showed off.

Vaasman
i never said anything about the games ... its a very solid line up. but if you go to any thread about natal, lemmings are embracing it likes its the second coming of jesus. Well actually sorry i am generalizing.
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#13 kiddoom93
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i am a lemming you could say and i couldnt care about natal i think its pointless but the games they showed and annouced for cotroller were amazing so im happy but i did waste 30 mins watching a woman jump about like an idiot and watch a grown man paint a fake wall BORRRIIIINNG!!!

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#14 BioShockOwnz
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Sure. I love the Wii.

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#15 osan0
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im looking forward to it. i think its a great idea. i just hope it works. then again i am one of those crazy people who think that the wiimote and nunchuck work and is great when used properly. how some people are struggeling to get it to work or respond is beyond me...it works fine for me. im all for trying out new control schemes...beats sticking to the same old same old.
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#16 OreoMilkshake
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I don't have to flail my arms with the wiimote.
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#17 svetzenlether
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Oh the hypocrisy!!

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#18 humber_matus
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For one they can make games where you are the character and the other characters talk to you! They recognize you and know you! That is awesome.VinxVince
wow that will keep me interested for the next 5 minutes? ... and what kind of a game is this going to be? ... the walk around a town talking to people game? ... imagine running, shooting and doing anything that's actually awesome with this thing.
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#19 munu9
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I don't get a big deal, it's only like a slightly updated version of the eye toy, a last gen feature. Why aren't sony fanboys screaming MS copied at every chance just like sheep and lemmings do to sony?
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I don't get a big deal, it's only like a slightly updated version of the eye toy, a last gen feature. Why aren't sony fanboys screaming MS copied at every chance just like sheep and lemmings do to sony? munu9
because we know the eye toy is garbage.
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#21 789shadow
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Why wouldn't they embrace the closest thing to virtual reality gaming has ever had.

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I don't get a big deal, it's only like a slightly updated version of the eye toy, a last gen feature. Why aren't sony fanboys screaming MS copied at every chance just like sheep and lemmings do to sony? munu9
They've been saying that all day.
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#23 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

I've probably seen 5 anti-natal threads compared to 1 or 2 pro-natal thread in the past 5 minutes so if you ask me the one's embracing it are 360 bashers, desperate to ignore the great games MS showed off.

humber_matus

i never said anything about the games ... its a very solid line up. but if you go to any thread about natal, lemmings are embracing it likes its the second coming of jesus. Well actually sorry i am generalizing.

That's exactly my point.

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#24 NYrockinlegend
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I think it's laughable, but I already expressed this feeling, so I'm done now.:)
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#25 clubsammich91
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Here is what I think will happen to Natel owners They buy it for a hefty fee At first they like it a lot Then they gradually get bored of it Finally they stop using it entirely after a few months and it's off to collect dust forever.
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#26 farnham
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I thinnk you nailed it. The Wii's barely works.

What was demoed here worked like a charm.

TBoogy
the wii works great.. look at its sales numbers.. the natal thing though dunno i dont think it will be the standard control method for the 360
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#27 xBloodrazorX
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Nevertheless that gaming is trying to be casual, and who's got the best casual games? Nintendo, so why get a X360? Games are more xpensive, Natal is Coming near the end of the freaking gen. Not to mention how expensive its going to be. Also Most people can't play Street Fighter in a small room, they'll probably hit the wall or something. NATAL, the lemmings who think its useful but shunned the Wii, well the Sheep shun you, for trying to get on to ther territory

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#28 Burnsmiesta
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The day MS announces they are dropping the 360 controller in favour of this motion camera will be the day I join the Natal hate crusade. Until then I'm fine with the games they've just announced.

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I'm certainly not...

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#30 TBoogy
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[QUOTE="TBoogy"]

I thinnk you nailed it. The Wii's barely works.

What was demoed here worked like a charm.

farnham

the wii works great.. look at its sales numbers.. the natal thing though dunno i dont think it will be the standard control method for the 360

I don't think it will be the standard control method either. But that doesn't mean an RPG based on "Milo" would not be amazing.

Or "Minority Report" level control of the LIVE dashboard.

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#31 humber_matus
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[QUOTE="TBoogy"]

I thinnk you nailed it. The Wii's barely works.

What was demoed here worked like a charm.

farnham
the wii works great.. look at its sales numbers.. the natal thing though dunno i dont think it will be the standard control method for the 360

tickle me elmo sold tons too ... i owned a transformer.
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[QUOTE="munu9"]I don't get a big deal, it's only like a slightly updated version of the eye toy, a last gen feature. Why aren't sony fanboys screaming MS copied at every chance just like sheep and lemmings do to sony? humber_matus
because we know the eye toy is garbage.

and teh voice recognition and facial recognition makes it a thousand times better gaming device, right?
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I think it is a great idea for aplication usage, not for now but something in the near future. Having email systems, internet, phone, lights and windows etc, all hooked up to natal and that kid to do your bidding. Haha exactly like a horror movie. Still that's what it reminded me of and I think that's cool and a very real possibility with this thing in the future.
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[QUOTE="humber_matus"][QUOTE="munu9"]I don't get a big deal, it's only like a slightly updated version of the eye toy, a last gen feature. Why aren't sony fanboys screaming MS copied at every chance just like sheep and lemmings do to sony? munu9
because we know the eye toy is garbage.

and teh voice recognition and facial recognition makes it a thousand times better gaming device, right?

nope ... i think they are both garbage equally.
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#35 dream431ca
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Every gamer is a hypocrite.

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#36 Mike885
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I thinnk you nailed it. The Wii's barely works.

What was demoed here worked like a charm.

TBoogy

Don't lie lemming, everyone one saw how it lagged a second behind, got all twisted, and in the ball game the girl couldn't control where she'd throw the ball at all.

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[QUOTE="humber_matus"][QUOTE="munu9"]I don't get a big deal, it's only like a slightly updated version of the eye toy, a last gen feature. Why aren't sony fanboys screaming MS copied at every chance just like sheep and lemmings do to sony? munu9
because we know the eye toy is garbage.

and teh voice recognition and facial recognition makes it a thousand times better gaming device, right?

I think I have that game already.....it's called outside of my house

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#39 metalisticpain
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I thinnk you nailed it. The Wii's barely works.

What was demoed here worked like a charm.

TBoogy
The wii works fine for what it is. I dont know why u think this is going to be any better. The wii proves that indepth games rely on buttons. With this 360 thing, u dont have a controller. So there's no way ur going to be able to get any in depth games on it. No FPS, Racing, RPG, Platformers. U cant even do a on rails shooter because how would you shoot?
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#41 Z0MBIES
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Just don't play the games in a room with windows so nobody can see you (have a locked door too) and it should be fine, I don't see this becoming popular in retirement homes like the Wii though, too much standing involved.
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#42 flazzle
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[QUOTE="farnham"][QUOTE="TBoogy"]

I thinnk you nailed it. The Wii's barely works.

What was demoed here worked like a charm.

humber_matus

the wii works great.. look at its sales numbers.. the natal thing though dunno i dont think it will be the standard control method for the 360

tickle me elmo sold tons too ... i owned a transformer.

And tickle me elmo did what it promised, and transformer did what it promised. Gee, everything mentioned in this post worked as advertised.

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#43 Avian005
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Let's not forget the Hermits and Cows also bashed the Wii for the motion controller. The PS3 had a motion controller, and Cows defended that until even Sony realizedit was a failure.

Let's face it, one fanboy will hate something until they get it on"their" console.

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its gonna be great just wait :lol:
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#45 calvinx6
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its gonna be great just wait :lol: ReaperV7

and the winner is!!!!!!!

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#46 kozzy1234
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Meh, im more excited for Forza2, Crackdown2, Mass Effect2, Halo:OST and Alan Wake then i am for this Natal idea.

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#47 TBoogy
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[QUOTE="TBoogy"]

I thinnk you nailed it. The Wii's barely works.

What was demoed here worked like a charm.

metalisticpain

The wii works fine for what it is. I dont know why u think this is going to be any better. The wii proves that indepth games rely on buttons. With this 360 thing, u dont have a controller. So there's no way ur going to be able to get any in depth games on it. No FPS, Racing, RPG, Platformers. U cant even do a on rails shooter because how would you shoot?

This is the thing that no one seems to have caught on yet:

Who says you cant use a controler too? This thing can be checking your movements even WHILE youplay with a conventional controler. It's not like it needs you to have something else in your hands.

For example. You are playing a role playing game with a regular joystick while the motion sensing is on. A character you approach says "Why don't you ever smile?"

If you smile, the software recognizes it and maybe you are rewarded with something. If not, maybe she won't answer questions for you.

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#48 flazzle
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[QUOTE="metalisticpain"][QUOTE="TBoogy"]

I thinnk you nailed it. The Wii's barely works.

What was demoed here worked like a charm.

TBoogy

The wii works fine for what it is. I dont know why u think this is going to be any better. The wii proves that indepth games rely on buttons. With this 360 thing, u dont have a controller. So there's no way ur going to be able to get any in depth games on it. No FPS, Racing, RPG, Platformers. U cant even do a on rails shooter because how would you shoot?

This is the thing that no one seems to have caught on yet:

Who says you cant use a controler too? This thing can be checking your movements even WHILE youplay with a conventional controler. It's not like it needs you to have something else in your hands.

For example. You are playing a role playing game with a regular joystick while the motion sensing is on. A character you approach says "Why don't you ever smile?"

If you smile, the software recognizes it and maybe you are rewarded with something. If not, maybe she won't answer questions for you.

Holy cow! Smiling detection in a game! Never thought of that! I think the revolution has started!

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#49 Fizzman
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I despised the Wii attempts at motion based gameplay, but MS looks like its heading in the right direction.

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#50 cainetao11
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I won't embrace nor condemn it 100%. I think it has possibilities, especially not using a controller for navigating menus and voice recognition without a headset. For games I like controllers right now. As far as looking like an idiot....I doubt I look that cool sitting at my screen in boxers with a controller, a 36 year old body, a bag of pretzels and a soda as it is when I game.