[QUOTE="Karnage108"]I guess PC gamers aren't as good of a judge of game quality as they were claiming to be. Bu.. Bu.. but the The Witcher 2 will be the best game ever.... what has quality to do with sales :? and TW2 seems to be wayyyyyy better than Fable 3 and I am not a PC advocate
I guess PC gamers aren't as good of a judge of game quality as they were claiming to be. Bu.. Bu.. but the The Witcher 2 will be the best game ever....Karnage108
I might actually buy it, they've at least put in the effort to make sure that it's optimized well for the PC. Plus I always like the first Fable and its sense of humor.
[QUOTE="Karnage108"]I guess PC gamers aren't as good of a judge of game quality as they were claiming to be. Bu.. Bu.. but the The Witcher 2 will be the best game ever.... I always say how PC and consoles gamers don't differ at all in the game choices they make. Yet no one seems to listen to me. The data doesn't lie though. Gamers are gamers regardless of platform.
I guess PC gamers aren't as good of a judge of game quality as they were claiming to be. Bu.. Bu.. but the The Witcher 2 will be the best game ever....Karnage108
Im pretty sure the witcher 2 will sell more, I see no reason why the witcher 2 would be in the top spots in steam when d2d offers it for 33$! I try to get every game on steam, but 33$ for the witcher 2 is too good to pass up
[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="Karnage108"]I guess PC gamers aren't as good of a judge of game quality as they were claiming to be. Bu.. Bu.. but the The Witcher 2 will be the best game ever.... what has quality to do with sales :? and TW2 seems to be wayyyyyy better than Fable 3 and I am not a PC advocate Maybe you missed out on the thread yesterday. When I said Fable 3 would sell millions on PC, they tried to tell me it would be lucky to sell 100k or so. They said the game would be THAT bad. So yes, they were making the game's quality the primary factor there.
[QUOTE="Karnage108"]I guess PC gamers aren't as good of a judge of game quality as they were claiming to be. Bu.. Bu.. but the The Witcher 2 will be the best game ever....NanoMan88
Im pretty sure the witcher 2 will sell more, I see no reason why the witcher 2 would be in the top spots in steam when d2d offers it for 33$! I try to get every game on steam, but 33$ for the witcher 2 is too good to pass up
[QUOTE="Karnage108"]I guess PC gamers aren't as good of a judge of game quality as they were claiming to be. Bu.. Bu.. but the The Witcher 2 will be the best game ever....NanoMan88
Im pretty sure the witcher 2 will sell more, I see no reason why the witcher 2 would be in the top spots in steam when d2d offers it for 33$! I try to get every game on steam, but 33$ for the witcher 2 is too good to pass up
I'm not arguing that F3 will sell better than TW2. But when I said F3 would do well on PC (and why shouldn't it? Rpgs/Action-adventure tend to do well on Steam and PC in general), they laughed at me.
So it sold around 100 copies? Nah I'm just kidding, but day one sales on steam I've noticed to be inflated than what they actually are. I remember a few years back when mirrors edge was first released it was in the top sellers list in the EU. Steam has a feature where you could check how many people were online playing it. There was 17 people playing it.
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Is this the first game on Steam from MGS? Odd that would bring Fable 3 to their DD competition.i5750at4Ghz
Best of both worlds really. EA does it as well. Having it available everywhere is more profitable in the long run than having it only on your site. It's at the point where it would be incredibly stupid for them not to have it on Steam. Steam is pretty much the defacto DD platform on the PC, no matter how they try and push the absolutely terrible GFWL. The sad thing is that you now have 2 clients on your PC that you have to log into. It's goddamn ridiculous.
That game is such a huge step in the wrong direction, doing only a handful of things right.
krunkfu2
That bad? I've played the first two, wasn't a fan of the changes the whole emotes thing felt really stupid imo. And the one button gameplay was BORING. Is the combat in 3 at least any better?
[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Is this the first game on Steam from MGS? Odd that would bring Fable 3 to their DD competition.heretrix
Best of both worlds really. EA does it as well. Having it available everywhere is more profitable in the long run than having it only on your site. It's at the point where it would be incredibly stupid for them not to have it on Steam. Steam is pretty much the defacto DD platform on the PC, no matter how they try and push the absolutely terrible GFWL. The sad thing is that you now have 2 clients on your PC that you have to log into. It's goddamn ridiculous. It's mindless really. GFWL is non intrusive. The games that I have that use it, I don't even notice it. Only thing I don't like about DD is that steam auto patches everything often times over writing configs/mods I had in place.
[QUOTE="Karnage108"]I guess PC gamers aren't as good of a judge of game quality as they were claiming to be. Bu.. Bu.. but the The Witcher 2 will be the best game ever....i5750at4Ghz
Im pretty sure the witcher 2 will sell more, I see no reason why the witcher 2 would be in the top spots in steam when d2d offers it for 33$! I try to get every game on steam, but 33$ for the witcher 2 is too good to pass up
The witcher 2 isn't top 20 on either site. A couple of points that need to be considered when comparing The Witcher 2's placment in the top 20 in comparison to Fable III 1) Fable just came out for pre-order, so anyone who is going to pre-order the game is doing it now, while the Witcher 2 has been out for pre-order for a very long time now and the only people who have not pre-ordered it already are those who are going to wait to buy it. 2) Witcher 2 is being sold from almost all the DD sites out there while Fable III is only being sold from GFWL and Steam and for some reason it is cheaper on Steam (go figure) 3) Fable III has no real competition right now, seeing as how the only other big game that has been recently released or put on pre-order is Portal 2. When you consider all this factors it is not really all that surprising that Fable III is in the top 10 right now. It means very little without any numbers released, especially when you consider that other games like Shogun 2 and Crysis 2, games that were released a while back on multiple DD services, are still in the top 10.
When they release Fable 2 on PC, then I will take an interest in buying Fable 3.
AmazonTreeBoa
You wouldn't really be missing out on much. I personally (though many others disagree) preferred Fable 3 to Fable 2, but there's no real continuing story across the series. Or atleast they haven't really connected the stories yet.
Im pretty sure the witcher 2 will sell more, I see no reason why the witcher 2 would be in the top spots in steam when d2d offers it for 33$! I try to get every game on steam, but 33$ for the witcher 2 is too good to pass up
Philmon
The witcher 2 isn't top 20 on either site. A couple of points that need to be considered when comparing The Witcher 2's placment in the top 20 in comparison to Fable III 1) Fable just came out for pre-order, so anyone who is going to pre-order the game is doing it now, while the Witcher 2 has been out for pre-order for a very long time now and the only people who have not pre-ordered it already are those who are going to wait to buy it. 2) Witcher 2 is being sold from almost all the DD sites out there while Fable III is only being sold from GFWL and Steam and for some reason it is cheaper on Steam (go figure) 3) Fable III has no real competition right now, seeing as how the only other big game that has been recently released or put on pre-order is Portal 2. When you consider all this factors it is not really all that surprising that Fable III is in the top 10 right now. It means very little without any numbers released, especially when you consider that other games like Shogun 2 and Crysis 2, games that were released a while back on multiple DD services, are still in the top 10. I agree with everything you said. The fact that it's top 3 period in one day is a pretty major feat imo though. Not even shogun 2 did that it's first day on steam, a game I know will sell well.
I think the reason people are buying Fable III is to convince Microsoft to bring more games to PC (like Alan Wake and Forza 4) than the game itself. :P
I think the reason people are buying Fable III is to convince Microsoft to bring more games to PC (like Alan Wake and Forza 4) than the game itself. :P
RyuRanVII
OMG!! Eff everything else if they bring forza to PC it's game over thats all I'll be playing for months. Playing in on the 360 without a wheel is a major pain. I have a logitech driving force gt that works on the ps3 and pc, but not the 360.
That game is such a huge step in the wrong direction, doing only a handful of things right.
i5750at4Ghz
That bad? I've played the first two, wasn't a fan of the changes the whole emotes thing felt really stupid imo. And the one button gameplay was BORING. Is the combat in 3 at least any better? Yea man. I was one of the people who liked Fable II, I never got to play Lost Chapters. II was kind of average it did some things right, but then also made some backsteps. Fable III is just bad. The way you have to interact with other people is pretty bad, especially they way they handled the new emote system and only being able to interact with an individual person. The combat is really boring now a lot of the magic spells have been taken out there are around 5-7 spells now with some old Fable II spells being converted to potions. It's still the same melee combat with some of the options like chained attacks from Fable II completely gone; it's basically mash X and hold X now. The combat us basically the same from the second game There was probably 2-3 new enemies in the game over Fable II. The new pause menu layout only makes a putting on new weapons and clothing easier, but accessing options and configurations is a pain. So much content on 360 was launch DLC it was ridiculous, for instance the black dye was DLC. I can't dye clothes black because i have to buy DLC? The game also had some game braking glitches at least at launch and around a month after launch. There was a quest that would warp you to an area you couldn't leave until the quest completion, but at the last area the event wouldn't trigger and you'd be stuck and have to create a new character. I believe that glitch was patched though, but you can still get stuck under the game ground/floor/world etc. in various parts of the world and you need a co-op buddy top help you get out. Even if Lionhead put all the DLC into the PC version, and added more areas I still probably wouldn't buy it. The core experience just is not that fun. If you disliked Fable II I can guarantee that you will not like Fable III at all. I'm actually selling the game back to amazon while it's still worth some cash; I'm glad I got it for just $40 and am selling it back for around $28.
I think the reason people are buying Fable III is to convince Microsoft to bring more games to PC (like Alan Wake and Forza 4) than the game itself. :P
That game is such a huge step in the wrong direction, doing only a handful of things right.
krunkfu2
That bad? I've played the first two, wasn't a fan of the changes the whole emotes thing felt really stupid imo. And the one button gameplay was BORING. Is the combat in 3 at least any better? Yea man. I was one of the people who liked Fable II, I never got to play Lost Chapters. II was kind of average it did some things right, but then also made some backsteps. Fable III is just bad. The way you have to interact with other people is pretty bad, especially they way they handled the new emote system and only being able to interact with an individual person. The combat is really boring now a lot of the magic spells have been taken out there are around 5-7 spells now with some old Fable II spells being converted to potions. It's still the same melee combat with some of the options like chained attacks from Fable II completely gone; it's basically mash X and hold X now. The combat us basically the same from the second game There was probably 2-3 new enemies in the game over Fable II. The new pause menu layout only makes a putting on new weapons and clothing easier, but accessing options and configurations is a pain. So much content on 360 was launch DLC it was ridiculous, for instance the black dye was DLC. I can't dye clothes black because i have to buy DLC? The game also had some game braking glitches at least at launch and around a month after launch. There was a quest that would warp you to an area you couldn't leave until the quest completion, but at the last area the event wouldn't trigger and you'd be stuck and have to create a new character. I believe that glitch was patched though, but you can still get stuck under the game ground/floor/world etc. in various parts of the world and you need a co-op buddy top help you get out. Even if Lionhead put all the DLC into the PC version, and added more areas I still probably wouldn't buy it. The core experience just is not that fun. If you disliked Fable II I can guarantee that you will not like Fable III at all. I'm actually selling the game back to amazon while it's still worth some cash; I'm glad I got it for just $40 and am selling it back for around $28. Meh, I wasn't going to buy it anyway. I've bought like 12 games this week. Last thing I need right now is another one.
If PC gamers buy it then according to SW we buy crap games. If PC gamers don't buy it then according to SW it's because PC gaming is dying.
i5750at4Ghz
A trap set up by PC elitist on this site. They continually put their feet in their mouths. EXACTLY. This is the point I've been trying to make all along.
If PC gamers buy it then according to SW we buy crap games. If PC gamers don't buy it then according to SW it's because PC gaming is dying.
PalmPixi
I'm not a frequenter of System wars, but I do browse it because it's hilarious at how hypocrite and selfish gamers can be. I couldn't believe it when I first landed in this forum. People fighting over a system? Unbelivable.
Anyway. In my little time here, all I've been seeing from PC gamers is "We don't want console games, they are trash" But all of the sudden a console game arrives and now they are storming to buy it? It shows that console, pc, handheld gamers are all hypocrites. Sad.
[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Meh, I wasn't going to buy it anyway. I've bought like 12 games this week. Last thing I need right now is another one. Especially one as mediocre as Fable III.
I liked Fable TLC on PC a lot, so I'll get this as well, it seems atmospheric and that can carry a game far. But I won't pay a full price after all the negative things I've read.
[QUOTE="Karnage108"]I guess PC gamers aren't as good of a judge of game quality as they were claiming to be. Bu.. Bu.. but the The Witcher 2 will be the best game ever....i5750at4Ghz
I always say how PC and consoles gamers don't differ at all in the game choices they make. Yet no one seems to listen to me. The data doesn't lie though. Gamers are gamers regardless of platform.
There are differences, which is why some developers simply do not bother going to consoles. I mean flight simulators (not the arcadey type but the actual simulator) on top of not being able to go on consoles, even if they could they wouldn't make too much $$$ because it wouldn't be accessible. I agree with one thing though, PC gamers like to say they won't stand for certain things then go out and buy games like MW2 and BO in droves! Along with the DLC to.
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