So, new consoles are coming the end of 2012. It will be a 3 way showdown

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#1 Videodogg
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Wii U, the next Xbox and Playstation are all seemingly headed our way 1 year from now. It will be a hardware mega tsunamifor holiday seasn next year.

I wonder how this will effect consumer interest in the current systems? For potential new owners, why would anyone want to invest in a 360 or PS3 now? Sure current owners have many games to finish off these consoles in style, but i think a lot of "new owners" might be a little put off about how their new Christmass Xbox360/PS3 will be left in the sidelines in a year or so.

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The next Xbox and PS4 aren't coming out in 2012. Bad rumors are...bad.

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#3 Austindro
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MS and Sony are not releasing a console next year.

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#4 ShadowDeathX
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Nothing has been confirmed at all...
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#5 JordanizPro
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The new consoles wont come in 2012.They probably wont even come in 2013.Games like GTAV and Halo 4 confirms no new consoles till atleast late 2013

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#6 locopatho
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Only Nintendo are releasing a new console, and all it's games (that I've heard anyway) are also coming to 360 and PS3. It's not quite "next gen" times
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#7 Pug-Nasty
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It's hard to imagine new consoles coming out that soon without confirmation, but then they wouldn't want to ruin the coming holiday sales either by announcing new systems.

If they do all come out around the same time and the prices aren't too different, Sony will likely dominate the next gen.

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Wii U, the next Xbox and Playstation are all seemingly headed our way 1 year from now. It will be a hardware mega tsunamifor holiday seasn next year.

I wonder how this will effect consumer interest in the current systems? For potential new owners, why would anyone want to invest in a 360 or PS3 now? Sure current owners have many games to finish off these consoles in style, but i think a lot of "new owners" might be a little put off about how their new Christmass Xbox360/PS3 will be left in the sidelines in a year or so.

Videodogg

Actually there is no way 720 and PS4 will come before holiday 2013, or mid 2014

720 has not even been hinted to be in development, WiiU is also not 100% certain for 2012, might slip to 2013, especially in Europe

What we know for sure is that Halo 4 is confirmed on 360 and they would never have a Halo with a new system, so at the earliest 720 will come in holiday 2013

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#9 Videodogg
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Nothing has been confirmed at all...ShadowDeathX
Yeah, its only the worst kept secret in the industry. Of course they are coming out next year, but im sure they wont confirm it until AFTER Christmas. They dont want to cut their own throats....but all signals point to YES.
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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Nothing has been confirmed at all...Videodogg
Yeah, its only the worst kept secret in the industry. Of course they are coming out next year, but im sure they wont confirm it until AFTER Christmas. They dont want to cut their own throats....but all signals point to YES.

lol...no.
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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Nothing has been confirmed at all...Videodogg
Yeah, its only the worst kept secret in the industry. Of course they are coming out next year, but im sure they wont confirm it until AFTER Christmas. They dont want to cut their own throats....but all signals point to YES.

Zero signals point to yes actually, 360 is selling better than ever and has the most exclusives coming in 2012 than any year

Also the most new IPs and Kinect is only a year on the market

Halo 4 is also confirmed for 360 in 2012 holiday, so there is about zero chance a new system would release along with that

Holiday 2013 is the most probable

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#12 Austindro
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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Nothing has been confirmed at all...Videodogg
Yeah, its only the worst kept secret in the industry. Of course they are coming out next year, but im sure they wont confirm it until AFTER Christmas. They dont want to cut their own throats....but all signals point to YES.

All signals point to MS and Sony trying to profit as much as they canfrom this gen still.

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#13 mmmwksil
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8th gen is where I might finally bow out of console gaming. There've been too few new and unique experiences IMO this gen, and next gen doesn't look like it'll be much improvement.

But if I must support one platform, it will be most likely be the Wii U.

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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Nothing has been confirmed at all...Videodogg
Yeah, its only the worst kept secret in the industry. Of course they are coming out next year, but im sure they wont confirm it until AFTER Christmas. They dont want to cut their own throats....but all signals point to YES.

Dude the new consoles arnt coming next year.The 360 has GTAV and Halo 4 coming so theres no way Microsoft are launching a brand new system with those 2 games on the 360.And the PS3 also has big games coming.No new systems will come to like 2014
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Man you are going to be sorely disappointed if you think all 3 systems will release by the end of 2012.
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No... it's not going to be a tsunami. Keep your hype in check.

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#17 Videodogg
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Man you are going to be sorely disappointed if you think all 3 systems will release by the end of 2012.gamer620
well, i might concede on one console, the PS4, but i am certain the next xbox and Wii U will be going head to head at the very least. But at the same time, i can not imagine Sony wanting to give MS a year head start again. My prediction stands.
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#18 Spartan070
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MS is not releasing a console the same year Halo 4 debuts
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8th gen is where I might finally bow out of console gaming. There've been too few new and unique experiences IMO this gen, and next gen doesn't look like it'll be much improvement.

But if I must support one platform, it will be most likely be the Wii U.

mmmwksil

whats so unique about pc gaming?

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[QUOTE="gamer620"]Man you are going to be sorely disappointed if you think all 3 systems will release by the end of 2012.Videodogg
well, i might concede on one console, the PS4, but i am certain the next xbox and Wii U will be going head to head at the very least. But at the same time, i can not imagine Sony wanting to give MS a year head start again. My prediction stands.

If the Next Xbox was releasing next year why would Halo 4 be a 360 title?

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[QUOTE="Videodogg"][QUOTE="gamer620"]Man you are going to be sorely disappointed if you think all 3 systems will release by the end of 2012.spookykid143

well, i might concede on one console, the PS4, but i am certain the next xbox and Wii U will be going head to head at the very least. But at the same time, i can not imagine Sony wanting to give MS a year head start again. My prediction stands.

If the Next Xbox was releasing next year why would Halo 4 be a 360 title?

Indeed, right now the chance for a 2012 release is exactly zero

Holiday 2013 seems about right

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#22 mmmwksil
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whats so unique about pc gaming?

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I don't know. What is so unique if anything about PC gaming? You tell me, buddy. :|

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#23 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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Seeing as the Xbox 360 was announced May 2005 and released in November 2005... it wouldn't be surprising to see it at E3 then a release at Q4. A lot of people disagree but I honestly think that 2014 is pushing it. A 2012 release would be welcome.
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2012 just seems too soon with GTA5 and Halo 4 coming out, I say finish up the last great games for the PS3 and 360, have a long summer of nothing, and then release the two systems when theres more demand for them in fall/winter 2013.
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The new Xbox and Playstation will not be out next year and most likely not even announced next year.
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#26 Combo_Master
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I never understand why people are still wanting this gen cosnole to last forever as were still just playing most games at 720 p or below at mostly 30 frames per second. Also the sooner there released the sooner they can drop to $300 or below for all the whiners who won't pay $600 etc.

The only good thing that can come from waiting is that longer waiting times should mean better hardware hopefully and more chance of most games being 1080 p and 60 frames per second.

If they don't come out till end of 2013 there should be no reason most games won't be 1080 p and 60 frames per second as gpu technology should be a lot better by than as it's sort of stale at the moment but i think thats mostly because new consoles are being delayed.

Pc gamers than will probably be like OMGZZ 120 frames per second>>>>60 dall day every dayzzz in the future but the gap between 60 and 120 frames is a lot less than 30 and 60 currently between console and pc.

So that means for most of yall prolly on this board you won't get until end of 2015 or whenever they become $300 or less so you got another 4 years still lol

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#27 Cherokee_Jack
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They are not. If MS or Sony were launching next year we would know a hell of a lot more about these systems.
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#28 fireballonfire
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WiiU for a holiday release in Japan 2012. 2013 in the rest of the world.

Xbox 720 will at earliest launch holiday 2013 in US and 2014 in the rest of the world.

PS4 will launch holiday 2014 in Japan and 2015 in the rest of the world.

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No way in hell MS and Sony releasing next gen in 2012.
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[QUOTE="Videodogg"]

Wii U, the next Xbox and Playstation are all seemingly headed our way 1 year from now. It will be a hardware mega tsunamifor holiday seasn next year.

I wonder how this will effect consumer interest in the current systems? For potential new owners, why would anyone want to invest in a 360 or PS3 now? Sure current owners have many games to finish off these consoles in style, but i think a lot of "new owners" might be a little put off about how their new Christmass Xbox360/PS3 will be left in the sidelines in a year or so.

loosingENDS

Actually there is no way 720 and PS4 will come before holiday 2013, or mid 2014

720 has not even been hinted to be in development, WiiU is also not 100% certain for 2012, might slip to 2013, especially in Europe

What we know for sure is that Halo 4 is confirmed on 360 and they would never have a Halo with a new system, so at the earliest 720 will come in holiday 2013

What do you mean the next Xbox has not been in development? Ms already confirmed this like a year or 2 ago also Nintendo themselves have said the wii u is coming in the second half of 2012. These are not magic boxes that get made in a month they take years to develop. And for people saying they have not said anything about the next Xbox yet so that must mean no new console for years, please remember that the 360 was first unveiled on MTV a week before E305 and was launched that November.
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]They are not. If MS or Sony were launching next year we would know a hell of a lot more about these systems.

Why do you think this? What did we know of the 360 in November 2004? What did we know of the wii besides the name revolution in 2005. Rule number 1 in marketing a new product is that you don't unveil it and then wait 2 years for it to come out because the public simply looses interest, this is the exact mistake Nintendo just made with their rushed wii u showing.
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

8th gen is where I might finally bow out of console gaming. There've been too few new and unique experiences IMO this gen, and next gen doesn't look like it'll be much improvement.

But if I must support one platform, it will be most likely be the Wii U.

dontshackzmii

whats so unique about pc gaming?

he's ta;lking abouthandhelds

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#33 GotNugz
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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

8th gen is where I might finally bow out of console gaming. There've been too few new and unique experiences IMO this gen, and next gen doesn't look like it'll be much improvement.

But if I must support one platform, it will be most likely be the Wii U.

cabose38

whats so unique about pc gaming?

he's ta;lking abouthandhelds

Not sure how he can say there have not been unique experiences this generation wii with its motion controls or kinect or more seem unique to me.
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#34 loosingENDS
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The new Xbox and Playstation will not be out next year and most likely not even announced next year.djsifer01

Obviously, who would release a new system along side their biggest 2012 game ?

Makes no sense at all

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The next Xbox and PS4 aren't coming out in 2012. Bad rumors are...bad.

KC_Hokie

Pretty much this. We don't even have a peep from Sony or MS on the next consoles when Nintendo already has games being made and everything, so its unlikely we'll see a PS4 or Xbox 720 until at least 2013.

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ps4 will kill nextbox in sales sooo bad

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

The next Xbox and PS4 aren't coming out in 2012. Bad rumors are...bad.

SPYDER0416

Pretty much this. We don't even have a peep from Sony or MS on the next consoles when Nintendo already has games being made and everything, so its unlikely we'll see a PS4 or Xbox 720 until at least 2013.

Indeed, even if some developers started making games today, it would take 2-3 years to have them ready, so holiday 2013 is the earliest we would see new systems

ps4 will kill nextbox in sales sooo bad

Pokemon266

That is what was said about PS3 too, but then was believable, now has a 0% chance imo

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[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

Pretty much this. We don't even have a peep from Sony or MS on the next consoles when Nintendo already has games being made and everything, so its unlikely we'll see a PS4 or Xbox 720 until at least 2013.

loosingENDS

Indeed, even if some developers started making games today, it would take 2-3 years to have them ready, so holiday 2013 is the earliest we would see new systems

ps4 will kill nextbox in sales sooo bad

Pokemon266

That is what was said about PS3 too, but then was believable, now has a 0% chance imo

Doubtful, MS are aiming at the wii market with kinect and casual games as its main focus, if they manage to do it correctly MS may get a lot of casual sales due to its change in gaming direction.

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#40 Pokemon266
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[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

Pretty much this. We don't even have a peep from Sony or MS on the next consoles when Nintendo already has games being made and everything, so its unlikely we'll see a PS4 or Xbox 720 until at least 2013.

loosingENDS

Indeed, even if some developers started making games today, it would take 2-3 years to have them ready, so holiday 2013 is the earliest we would see new systems

ps4 will kill nextbox in sales sooo bad

Pokemon266

That is what was said about PS3 too, but then was believable, now has a 0% chance imo

since the ps3 has outsold xbox by every year i would shut up if i was you and with a $599 console and no games and 2 holidays behind it still beat the xbox in sales so you fail all sony has to do is release the ps4 before nextbox then ps4 will - 150million like ps2 and xbox back to it's last place like it deserves muahahahahha

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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]They are not. If MS or Sony were launching next year we would know a hell of a lot more about these systems.GotNugz
Why do you think this? What did we know of the 360 in November 2004? What did we know of the wii besides the name revolution in 2005.

Well, in August 2003 ATI announced that they were making the GPU for the 360.

http://news.cnet.com/2100-1043-5063661.html

And in September 2005 the Wii remote had already been demonstrated publicly. Over 1 year before the Wii came out.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6133389.html

And even in May 2005, they were showing the Wii console itself at E3.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/nintendos-revolution-is-nigh-6125078

A little more substantial than "We heard it might have a hexacore."

Not that it couldn't go differently this time, but you might have noticed that this industry's secret-keeping abilities aren't what they used to be. If anything, the concrete information will get out farther from release than it used to.

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Wii U, the next Xbox and Playstation are all seemingly headed our way 1 year from now. It will be a hardware mega tsunamifor holiday seasn next year.

I wonder how this will effect consumer interest in the current systems? For potential new owners, why would anyone want to invest in a 360 or PS3 now? Sure current owners have many games to finish off these consoles in style, but i think a lot of "new owners" might be a little put off about how their new Christmass Xbox360/PS3 will be left in the sidelines in a year or so.

Videodogg

1. Most customers have no clue when new systems might release

2. Whoever buys a system 5 or 6 year aafter launch won't get a next gen system around launch anyway

3. therefore we won't nitice much change

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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

Indeed, even if some developers started making games today, it would take 2-3 years to have them ready, so holiday 2013 is the earliest we would see new systems

[QUOTE="Pokemon266"]

ps4 will kill nextbox in sales sooo bad

tenaka2

That is what was said about PS3 too, but then was believable, now has a 0% chance imo

Doubtful, MS are aiming at the wii market with kinect and casual games as its main focus, if they manage to do it correctly MS may get a lot of casual sales due to its change in gaming direction.

MS has already won the Wii market, they are not aiming for that anymore, as all their 2012 games are core ones

Halo, Fable, Alan Wake, Panzer Dragoon, Witcher, Mass Effect, Ryse, Thriller advanture Haunt, Steel Batallion, Dust Elysian Take etc are casual games ?

Not really, they are the most hardcore games in 2012

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I think the console could be announced e3 2012 by ms, for a release march 2013 as this would allow Halo 4 to release on 360 with a potential port to the new console. Halo new triliogy will be on both 360 and the new platform but I suppose an outside bet would be the new console and Halo 4 next year with it also on 360!
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#45 sukraj
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There will be no new consoles next year i bet we have to wait till 2013 at the earliest.

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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

That is what was said about PS3 too, but then was believable, now has a 0% chance imo

loosingENDS

Doubtful, MS are aiming at the wii market with kinect and casual games as its main focus, if they manage to do it correctly MS may get a lot of casual sales due to its change in gaming direction.

MS has already won the Wii market, they are not aiming for that anymore, as all their 2012 games are core ones

Halo, Fable, Alan Wake, Panzer Dragoon, Witcher, Mass Effect, Ryse, Thriller advanture Haunt, Steel Batallion, Dust Elysian Take etc are casual games ?

Not really, they are the most hardcore games in 2012

Around 90 million Wiis sold. Maybe 10-12 million Kinects sold. How does that equate to MS already won the Wii market? All the 360 ads for the holidays I've seen are for Disneyland Adventures, Kinect Sports, and Dance Central. How are they not still aiming for that market?

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#47 GTSaiyanjin2
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They are coming in 2013, ar at least Sony and MS would like them to.... But 2014 is not out of the question.

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#48 coasterguy65
Member since 2005 • 7133 Posts

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if all 3 consoles come out next year.

Sony releases new consoles every 6 years.

PS1 - 1994

PS2 - 2000

PS3 - 2006

PS4 - 2012 ?

So it only stands to reason that the PS4 would probably be out next year. Yeah I know Sony intends to support the PS3 for 10 years just like the PS2, but they are not going to wait 10 years before releasing a new console. I'm not sure why people seem to think this is going to happen. The technology in both HD consoles is pretty much obsolete at this point.

So if the WiiU and the PS4 are expected next year you can damn sure bet MS is going to try and get the Nextbox out around the same time. Personally I would expect an E3 2012 announcement followed by the usual November of the same year release. Like MS did with the first two consoles.

Also to all the people saying Halo 4 has been confirmed for the Xbox 360 so there's no way there will be a Nextbox soon..what does that matter? Twilight Princess was confirmed for the Gamecube and we saw how that worked out right?

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Wii U, the next Xbox and Playstation are all seemingly headed our way 1 year from now. It will be a hardware mega tsunamifor holiday seasn next year.

I wonder how this will effect consumer interest in the current systems? For potential new owners, why would anyone want to invest in a 360 or PS3 now? Sure current owners have many games to finish off these consoles in style, but i think a lot of "new owners" might be a little put off about how their new Christmass Xbox360/PS3 will be left in the sidelines in a year or so.

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There is no way the new Xbox and PS will be out next year. These sorts of reveals/announcements are usually left for E3. That means June/July before they ever show the system. It is typically a year later that the console comes out as the model changes, specs are clarified, details of launch games come out, etc. It is highly unlikely that no real info has come out at this point if new consoles will be out next year. It is also very unlikely that when the main consoles are still selling well at $250, that they will push out new hardware so soon. And it is triple unlikely that they would announce a worldwide console launch (which seems to be the new norm) at E3 for a console coming out just two months later.

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#50 Miketheman83
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I don't know why people are so against new consoles coming out next year. The 360 is six years old, which is longer than most generations last. I can't wait for new systems, the sooner the better.