So now that its the end of the console cycle, how many Xboys feel ripped off?

lol at the people saying "I have job so I can afford it."

Well I have a job too. one that pays weekly.

and I still think paying $10 a month, $30 for 3 months and $60 for a Year so you could use Basic Online Features for your Xbox 360 is lame and pathetic.

You could be buying groceries with that money, or games from Steam or just new Games in General.

Xbox Live is a thing of the past. Deal with it.

LegatoSkyheart

And thats your opinion. Deal with it.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]

I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and that's fine that some preferred the 360 over the PS3, but I do not understand how people around here can defend XBL fees :?

It's one thing if the subscription actually offered you something, but you're paying for something everyone else is getting for free.  

 

 

-Patrick_92-

Bro it goes both ways. You can't understand why some people defend XBL fees. I can't understand why some people continue to ignore that XBL still offers more.

So you've just named a couple of features I use on a daily basis that, if I switched to PSN, I wouldn't be able to use. Thats pretty damn good justification to me (in regards to me paying for XBL).

I find value in the service because PSN lacks features I use everyday. Is that really an issue?

I bought the 360 on launch day and never once felt ripped off. It was the best generation and I played literally hundreds of games, and amazingly dozens of those were AAA experiences and dozens more were great A-AA games. 

[QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] Here in 2013 with modern PSN and WiiU it's pretty pointless to pay for it. For most of the gen, with garbage Wii and creaky as hell PS3 online, it was very worth it.locopatho

And it's not like cross game chat is worth the $60 a year, Vita does it for free.

I really don't have to worry about updates anymore on PSN anyways, PS+ updates everything for me over night.

Sounds like the PS4 will be a lot quicker with updates and installs, if what they said about Gaikai during the Feb 20th event is true "the fastest most powerful network for gaming in the world."  Plus, you can play games before they even finish downloading.

[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Stockholm syndrome.locopatho

[QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Bro it goes both ways. You can't understand why some people defend XBL fees. I can't understand why some people continue to ignore that XBL still offers more.

RR360DD

So you've just named a couple of features I use on a daily basis that, if I switched to PSN, I wouldn't be able to use. Thats pretty damn good justification to me (in regards to me paying for XBL).

I find value in the service because PSN lacks features I use everyday. Is that really an issue?

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="I_can_haz"]:lol: So true. Lemmings seem to like getting milked by M$. I don't know how anybody can defend an obvious scam like this. Sane lemmings (if there is such a thing) are probably mad about getting ripped off but won't admit it or they just living in denial about it. $450 is a lot of money that can be used for doing other things. You could buy games or upgrade your PC with a beefy graphics card for that kind of money.I_can_haz

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]In the beginning of the gen, yeah XBL was pretty appealing in comparison to PSN.  That changed (at least for me) in 2008 when the 2.40 update came out and we could finally use the XMB in game, there was no real benefit to paying for XBL after that.  Then PS+ came out and made it even more evident that XBL was a rip-off. 

And it's not like cross game chat is worth the $60 a year, Vita does it for free.

-Patrick_92-

I really don't have to worry about updates anymore on PSN anyways, PS+ updates everything for me over night.

Sounds like the PS4 will be a lot quicker with updates and installs, if what they said about Gaikai during the Feb 20th event is true "the fastest most powerful network for gaming in the world."  Plus, you can play games before they even finish downloading.

[QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]

I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and that's fine that some preferred the 360 over the PS3, but I do not understand how people around here can defend XBL fees :?

It's one thing if the subscription actually offered you something, but you're paying for something everyone else is getting for free.  

 

 

locopatho

I've had the 360 since launch, and have had Gold that entire time. I don't feel ripped off. I feel the enjoyment I attained, far outweighed the expense.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]What exactly does XBL offer more than PSN? I can't think of anything other than cross game chat (Vita does it for free), voice messages, and beacons (a feature that seems pretty useless to me).

 

 

-Patrick_92-

So you've just named a couple of features I use on a daily basis that, if I switched to PSN, I wouldn't be able to use. Thats pretty damn good justification to me (in regards to me paying for XBL).

I find value in the service because PSN lacks features I use everyday. Is that really an issue?

Thats good for the Vita, but its not on the PS3 and thats what people want before they give up XBL.

If PSN on the PS3 had cross games chat and parties, then I'd probably use that instead of XBL because I spend most of my time on multiplats anyway. Heres an example, me a my friends usually always send beacons to our friends lists when we have our own server on BF3 and want to fill it. Can you message all friends on PSN? Because having to individually invite your entire friends list would be tedious.

[QUOTE="I_can_haz"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] Less then a weeks wages over the course of 8 years? Cows are so poor.locopatho

PS: I don't wait 20 minutes to update my games, they do so while I sleep since I'm a PS+ subscriber, and even if I did 20 minutes won't kill me. I can watch TV or listen to music while I wait for my games to update.

I burned my 360. Felt really good aftterwards.

I don't understand why people defend 360's online service so passionately. I borrowed my friends Xbox 360 for a week and the online wasn't so much better that I'd be willing to pay $50 a year for. om28v

[QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] The main thing for me is avoiding 20 minute installs and updates. That sh!t drives me mental. Also much prefer 360 controller for everything except fighters. So to me it's still worth it. If I can get 30 second updates on PS4, I won't be paying for Live again.locopatho

I really don't have to worry about updates anymore on PSN anyways, PS+ updates everything for me over night.

Sounds like the PS4 will be a lot quicker with updates and installs, if what they said about Gaikai during the Feb 20th event is true "the fastest most powerful network for gaming in the world."  Plus, you can play games before they even finish downloading.

I don't see Sony charging for basic online though, but we'll see.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]The updates never bugged me, probably cause I play my PS3 almost everyday and keep it up to date.  For somebody who hasn't played in weeks or months, yeah that could get annoying when all the updates start to stack. 

I really don't have to worry about updates anymore on PSN anyways, PS+ updates everything for me over night.

Sounds like the PS4 will be a lot quicker with updates and installs, if what they said about Gaikai during the Feb 20th event is true "the fastest most powerful network for gaming in the world."  Plus, you can play games before they even finish downloading.

-Patrick_92-

I don't see Sony charging for basic online though, but we'll see.

Somewhat ripped off by XBL Gold, yes. It's antiquated joke compared to PS+. It's partly my fault, I should have been smarter with when and how much I paid for it.Floppy_Jim

Lems know they got ripped off but I doubt many will admit it in SW.

$5 a month, $60 a year, $300 for 5 years, $600 for 10 years (not that 360 support will/has last that long) all to talk to someone who isn't playing the game your playing.

I also seriously doubt anyone here or anywhere has a launch 360 that still works.

[QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

So you've just named a couple of features I use on a daily basis that, if I switched to PSN, I wouldn't be able to use. Thats pretty damn good justification to me (in regards to me paying for XBL).

I find value in the service because PSN lacks features I use everyday. Is that really an issue?

RR360DD

Thats good for the Vita, but its not on the PS3 and thats what people want before they give up XBL.

If PSN on the PS3 had cross games chat and parties, then I'd probably use that instead of XBL because I spend most of my time on multiplats anyway. Heres an example, me a my friends usually always send beacons to our friends lists when we have our own server on BF3 and want to fill it. Can you message all friends on PSN? Because having to individually invite your entire friends list would be tedious.

Now that does sound useful, on PSN you'd have to send out the BF3 invite individually.  To be honest I don't know much about the beacon feature, only used it a little bit when I used to have a 360.  Again though, it doesn't warrant the $60 subscription for me.

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Somewhat ripped off by XBL Gold, yes. It's antiquated joke compared to PS+. It's partly my fault, I should have been smarter with when and how much I paid for it.RR360DD

[QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] Yeah all the Gaikai stuff sounds really interesting. Can't even imagine how complex it must be to allow people to play half downloaded games, must be some really amazing tech!kuraimen

I don't see Sony charging for basic online though, but we'll see.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Somewhat ripped off by XBL Gold, yes. It's antiquated joke compared to PS+. It's partly my fault, I should have been smarter with when and how much I paid for it.kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]Really? When the only thing PSN+ offers over it is free rentals of old games they choose? Hardly makes it an antiquated joke-Patrick_92-

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]Really? When the only thing PSN+ offers over it is free rentals of old games they choose? Hardly makes it an antiquated joke-Patrick_92-

You know what really feels literally "ripped off?"

Sony's marketshare

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]Somewhat ripped off by XBL Gold, yes. It's antiquated joke compared to PS+. It's partly my fault, I should have been smarter with when and how much I paid for it.RR360DD

I've had a 360 since 2006 and never once have I spent more than $40 a year for gold.  I've been very happy with my 360 (especially the first 4 years of this gen) and have no regrets.  I did however buy a ps3 in 2009 for exclusives, and sony already has me sold on the ps4.  Microsoft has to do a lot to make me come back for the nextbox though.

Was a Xbox 360 gamer for a very long time, happy about Xbox 360, but the online is BS, and I will never pay for it ever again, but the system is great.

2 years ago I bought a PS3 and I fell in love with all the exclusive games. I now love my PS3 far more than my 360. Still own both, but the PS3 is the lead system in my house.

Xbox for me only had Gears, Fable and Halo which are great but I am bored of these franchises, also Alan Wake was good.

As Sony still has new IP's coming out and wont let up, and very unique interesting games all around. Sony Spoils its fans.

So for me Sony>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MS

[QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Rentals + discounts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {towards infinity} paying twice for basic connectivity serviceRR360DD

I just feel like cows have been ripped off the most.  For being hacked and getting their credit cards stolen, for having to pay again for ps2 and ps1 releases even when they already own the games, for having ylod and not having an extended 3 year warranty, for being excited for exclusive games they know are mediocre in the real word, for having mandatory installs, slow connections, so many downtime.  For having poor support for features they thought would be revolutionary (six axis, move, eye toy).  For paying 599 at launch with no games for the next 2 years.  :(

Cows have been the most ripped off this gen.  This is why ps3 is in last place and Sony is dying.  The mainstream already knows Sony is dying and cows are just grasping for any straw of life that Sony can muster for their systems. 

I just feel like cows have been ripped off the most.  For being hacked and getting their credit cards stolen, for having to pay again for ps2 and ps1 releases even when they already own the games, for having ylod and not having an extended 3 year warranty, for being excited for exclusive games they know are mediocre in the real word, for having mandatory installs, slow connections, so many downtime.  For having poor support for features they thought would be revolutionary (six axis, move, eye toy).  For paying 599 at launch with no games for the next 2 years.  :(

 

Cows have been the most ripped off this gen.  This is why ps3 is in last place and Sony is dying.  The mainstream already knows Sony is dying and cows are just grasping for any straw of life that Sony can muster for their systems. 

jimmypsn

[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]

I just feel like cows have been ripped off the most.  For being hacked and getting their credit cards stolen, for having to pay again for ps2 and ps1 releases even when they already own the games, for having ylod and not having an extended 3 year warranty, for being excited for exclusive games they know are mediocre in the real word, for having mandatory installs, slow connections, so many downtime.  For having poor support for features they thought would be revolutionary (six axis, move, eye toy).  For paying 599 at launch with no games for the next 2 years.  :(

 

Cows have been the most ripped off this gen.  This is why ps3 is in last place and Sony is dying.  The mainstream already knows Sony is dying and cows are just grasping for any straw of life that Sony can muster for their systems. 

kuraimen

:cry:jimmypsn

I just feel like cows have been ripped off the most.  For being hacked and getting their credit cards stolen, for having to pay again for ps2 and ps1 releases even when they already own the games, for having ylod and not having an extended 3 year warranty, for being excited for exclusive games they know are mediocre in the real word, for having mandatory installs, slow connections, so many downtime.  For having poor support for features they thought would be revolutionary (six axis, move, eye toy).  For paying 599 at launch with no games for the next 2 years.  :(

 

Cows have been the most ripped off this gen.  This is why ps3 is in last place and Sony is dying.  The mainstream already knows Sony is dying and cows are just grasping for any straw of life that Sony can muster for their systems. 

jimmypsn

On a serious note.  Its fun teasing each other on system wars but in the real world away from system wars.  Sony is dying and Playstation is dying.  Sony lost all the money they made on ps1 and ps2.  How crazy is that?  Some analyst are saying Sony's Playstation is the only thing keeping them alive. And of course their building.  But how many buildings can you sell to keep afloat.

[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]

I just feel like cows have been ripped off the most.  For being hacked and getting their credit cards stolen, for having to pay again for ps2 and ps1 releases even when they already own the games, for having ylod and not having an extended 3 year warranty, for being excited for exclusive games they know are mediocre in the real word, for having mandatory installs, slow connections, so many downtime.  For having poor support for features they thought would be revolutionary (six axis, move, eye toy).  For paying 599 at launch with no games for the next 2 years.  :(

 

Cows have been the most ripped off this gen.  This is why ps3 is in last place and Sony is dying.  The mainstream already knows Sony is dying and cows are just grasping for any straw of life that Sony can muster for their systems. 

ImBatman-

It's too bad that the next gen consoles seem to be going the Xbox live route. Sony being mum on the topic of their online service leads me to believe that they're going to charge for basic services. Before people say "get a job" blah blah blah, I have other more important priorities than paying to game online. om28v

so get a better job or you can quit games, is an expensive hobby

[QUOTE="om28v"]

 

so get a better job or you can quit games, is an expensive hobby

olart4618

[QUOTE="om28v"]It's too bad that the next gen consoles seem to be going the Xbox live route. Sony being mum on the topic of their online service leads me to believe that they're going to charge for basic services. Before people say "get a job" blah blah blah, I have other more important priorities than paying to game online. olart4618

so get a better job or you can quit games, is an expensive hobby

Slo-motion denzel knows what'll happen here when P$4 charges for basic online play:

Five hundred and ninety nine dollars !

[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]:cry:I_can_haz

hahhaha

Some things Playstation fanboys say.  lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DkOnAvCJucE#!

Very funny.  Something I thought system wars would enjoy

jimmypsn

So what have we learned? Everyone except the normal Cows of the forum have stated they enjoyed the 360 and did not feel ripped off. So Cows counter that with stupid arguments instead of accepting the truth. Broken record.