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#1 IronMaidenLives
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In other topics, when someone claims the Wii is winning, there are two common responses..

1) It is not a next-gen console.

2) Sales don't matter.

The latter is what baffles me. If there is such a thing as a console war, in which the company that sells the most consoles wins, then how can one think that sales don't matter?

Of course, one may have his/her opinions to which console is better. That is subjective. Personally, I cannot contribute anything to this because I do not own any of the current gaming machines. But if we are to think there is such a thing as a console war, then by all means the Wii is winning because we must go by what the sales charts tell us, and one does not need to own any of these machines to see this. Also, I am keeping this strictly to the three current major consoles. Not the DS, PS2, etc.

One more thing that must be noted is nobody has won anything yet. Even though the Wii is winning, it has not won. Vice versa with the PS3. It may not be selling as much but by no means has it lost.

Now we get to the former statement. I believe the Wii to be the official next generation Nintendo console. To say otherwise is unfounded. Some may say that because it lacks the power of the 360 and PS3, it cannot be. Are we to believe that Sony and MS set the standard for what should be considered a next-gen console? Does next-gen define itself by power or timeline? Or both?

Either way, have fun with your gaming machines.

God bless, Maiden out.

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#2 samusarmada
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If the ps3 starts winning, wii fanboys are gonna say that sales dont matter. Its a cycle of sorts.
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#3 IronMaidenLives
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If the ps3 starts winning, wii fanboys are gonna say that sales dont matter. Its a cycle of sorts.samusarmada

That would be highly illogical.

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#4 Dm1uciano
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Sales are fine and dandy,

But I think Metroid deserves better graphics then what the Wii can offer.

It's such a shame.

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[QUOTE="samusarmada"]If the ps3 starts winning, wii fanboys are gonna say that sales dont matter. Its a cycle of sorts.IronMaidenLives

That would be highly illogical.

Fanboys are highly illogical. 

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[QUOTE="samusarmada"]If the ps3 starts winning, wii fanboys are gonna say that sales dont matter. Its a cycle of sorts.IronMaidenLives

That would be highly illogical.

That's system wars.

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#7 martin_f
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Nintendo Wii is a fad/gimmick aimed at children with the worst games out of all three consoles. Super paper Mario wtf? Mario Galaxy wtf? can't you excep your getting milked badly?
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#8 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="IronMaidenLives"]

[QUOTE="samusarmada"]If the ps3 starts winning, wii fanboys are gonna say that sales dont matter. Its a cycle of sorts.callmewaffle

That would be highly illogical.

That's system wars.

    Agreed! 

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[QUOTE="samusarmada"]If the ps3 starts winning, wii fanboys are gonna say that sales dont matter. Its a cycle of sorts.IronMaidenLives

That would be highly illogical.

However true.
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If the ps3 starts winning,samusarmada

:lol: Dude I literally laughed out loud when I read that.....Wait, your serious??  :shock: 

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In other topics, when someone claims the Wii is winning, there are two common responses..

1) It is not a next-gen console.

2) Sales don't matter.

The latter is what baffles me. If there is such a thing as a console war, in which the company that sells the most consoles wins, then how can one think that sales don't matter?

Of course, one may have his/her opinions to which console is better. That is subjective. Personally, I cannot contribute anything to this because I do not own any of the current gaming machines. But if we are to think there is such a thing as a console war, then by all means the Wii is winning because we must go by what the sales charts tell us, and one does not need to own any of these machines to see this. Also, I am keeping this strictly to the three current major consoles. Not the DS, PS2, etc.

One more thing that must be noted is nobody has won anything yet. Even though the Wii is winning, it has not won. Vice versa with the PS3. It may not be selling as much but by no means has it lost.

Now we get to the former statement. I believe the Wii to be the official next generation Nintendo console. To say otherwise is unfounded. Some may say that because it lacks the power of the 360 and PS3, it cannot be. Are we to believe that Sony and MS set the standard for what should be considered a next-gen console? Does next-gen define itself by power or timeline? Or both?

Either way, have fun with your gaming machines.

God bless, Maiden out.

IronMaidenLives
Sorry but, the 360 is winning....
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#12 WickeeKing
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Sales are fine and dandy,

But I think Metroid deserves better graphics then what the Wii can offer.

It's such a shame.

Dm1uciano

But Metroid also deserves the control which only Wii can provide... so it evens out. Though, I'd cream myself to see Metroid Prime 1 in 1440 x 900 widescreen with full anistropic filtering and all high res textures, etc.  

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#13 samusarmada
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[QUOTE="samusarmada"]If the ps3 starts winning,Magical_Zebra

:lol: Dude I literally laughed out loud when I read that.....Wait, your serious??  :shock: 

thats the most pointless response i have ever read. 1. You negated to see the "If" in my statement. 2. You neglected to actually read the whole statement. 3. You neglected to realise how it relates to the topic. Please :roll:
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#14 IronMaidenLives
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[QUOTE="IronMaidenLives"]

In other topics, when someone claims the Wii is winning, there are two common responses..

1) It is not a next-gen console.

2) Sales don't matter.

The latter is what baffles me. If there is such a thing as a console war, in which the company that sells the most consoles wins, then how can one think that sales don't matter?

Of course, one may have his/her opinions to which console is better. That is subjective. Personally, I cannot contribute anything to this because I do not own any of the current gaming machines. But if we are to think there is such a thing as a console war, then by all means the Wii is winning because we must go by what the sales charts tell us, and one does not need to own any of these machines to see this. Also, I am keeping this strictly to the three current major consoles. Not the DS, PS2, etc.

One more thing that must be noted is nobody has won anything yet. Even though the Wii is winning, it has not won. Vice versa with the PS3. It may not be selling as much but by no means has it lost.

Now we get to the former statement. I believe the Wii to be the official next generation Nintendo console. To say otherwise is unfounded. Some may say that because it lacks the power of the 360 and PS3, it cannot be. Are we to believe that Sony and MS set the standard for what should be considered a next-gen console? Does next-gen define itself by power or timeline? Or both?

Either way, have fun with your gaming machines.

God bless, Maiden out.

snyper1982

Sorry but, the 360 is winning....

Don't be sorry. This is nothing personal. I might have mistaken the charts.

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TASTE IN GAMES = SUBJECTIVE

The only true winner of SYSTEMWARS is defined by which console wins the sales battle.

Cows and Lemmings are obviously in severe, mass damage control

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#16 IronMaidenLives
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[QUOTE="samusarmada"]If the ps3 starts winning,Magical_Zebra

:lol: Dude I literally laughed out loud when I read that.....Wait, your serious??  :shock: 

What is wrong with his statement? The possibility is there.

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#17 IMuGGeDSaTaN
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In other topics, when someone claims the Wii is winning, there are two common responses..

1) It is not a next-gen console.

2) Sales don't matter.

The latter is what baffles me. If there is such a thing as a console war, in which the company that sells the most consoles wins, then how can one think that sales don't matter?

Of course, one may have his/her opinions to which console is better. That is subjective. Personally, I cannot contribute anything to this because I do not own any of the current gaming machines. But if we are to think there is such a thing as a console war, then by all means the Wii is winning because we must go by what the sales charts tell us, and one does not need to own any of these machines to see this. Also, I am keeping this strictly to the three current major consoles. Not the DS, PS2, etc.

One more thing that must be noted is nobody has won anything yet. Even though the Wii is winning, it has not won. Vice versa with the PS3. It may not be selling as much but by no means has it lost.

Now we get to the former statement. I believe the Wii to be the official next generation Nintendo console. To say otherwise is unfounded. Some may say that because it lacks the power of the 360 and PS3, it cannot be. Are we to believe that Sony and MS set the standard for what should be considered a next-gen console? Does next-gen define itself by power or timeline? Or both?

Either way, have fun with your gaming machines.

God bless, Maiden out.

IronMaidenLives
The 360 is actually winning though.
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#18 Dm1uciano
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Sales are fine and dandy,

But I think Metroid deserves better graphics then what the Wii can offer.

It's such a shame.

WickeeKing

But Metroid also deserves the control which only Wii can provide... so it evens out. Though, I'd cream myself to see Metroid Prime 1 in 1440 x 900 widescreen with full anistropic filtering and all high res textures, etc.  

I don't see how the Wii Remote will make Metroid any better.  If anything, I think it'll make the game worse, gameplay wise.

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#19 IronMaidenLives
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TASTE IN GAMES = SUBJECTIVE

The only true winner of SYSTEMWARS is defined by which console wins the sales battle.

Cows and Lemmings are obviously in severe, mass damage control

dustin-diamond

I don't think it helps by attaching insulting labels to people who prefer a specific console.

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#20 purplemidgets
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Sale do not equate to the quality of the product. When people bring up sales, they prove nothing.
It's one thing to be impressed by sales, and to inform people about them. It's another thing to use said sales in evidence that your console is better than another.
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#21 dustin-diamond
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[QUOTE="IronMaidenLives"]

In other topics, when someone claims the Wii is winning, there are two common responses..

1) It is not a next-gen console.

2) Sales don't matter.

The latter is what baffles me. If there is such a thing as a console war, in which the company that sells the most consoles wins, then how can one think that sales don't matter?

Of course, one may have his/her opinions to which console is better. That is subjective. Personally, I cannot contribute anything to this because I do not own any of the current gaming machines. But if we are to think there is such a thing as a console war, then by all means the Wii is winning because we must go by what the sales charts tell us, and one does not need to own any of these machines to see this. Also, I am keeping this strictly to the three current major consoles. Not the DS, PS2, etc.

One more thing that must be noted is nobody has won anything yet. Even though the Wii is winning, it has not won. Vice versa with the PS3. It may not be selling as much but by no means has it lost.

Now we get to the former statement. I believe the Wii to be the official next generation Nintendo console. To say otherwise is unfounded. Some may say that because it lacks the power of the 360 and PS3, it cannot be. Are we to believe that Sony and MS set the standard for what should be considered a next-gen console? Does next-gen define itself by power or timeline? Or both?

Either way, have fun with your gaming machines.

God bless, Maiden out.

IMuGGeDSaTaN
The 360 is actually winning though.

If you consider the Wii, in 4 months, selling over half of what the 360 did in 16 months... then yes the 360 is winning :lol:
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#22 SecretPolice
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TASTE IN GAMES = SUBJECTIVE

The only true winner of SYSTEMWARS is defined by which console wins the sales battle.

Cows and Lemmings are obviously in severe, mass damage control

dustin-diamond
Not damage control - just feel it's unfair to compare a hand held ( small enough and the graphics - lol ) to full blown this gen consoles ! See what I mean? ;)
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#23 samusarmada
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[QUOTE="WickeeKing"][QUOTE="Dm1uciano"]

Sales are fine and dandy,

But I think Metroid deserves better graphics then what the Wii can offer.

It's such a shame.

Dm1uciano

But Metroid also deserves the control which only Wii can provide... so it evens out. Though, I'd cream myself to see Metroid Prime 1 in 1440 x 900 widescreen with full anistropic filtering and all high res textures, etc.  

I don't see how the Wii Remote will make Metroid any better.  If anything, I think it'll make the game worse, gameplay wise.

Everyone was terrified when metroid was announced for the GC as a "fps" surely you can have a bit of faith.
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#24 IMuGGeDSaTaN
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[QUOTE="dustin-diamond"]

TASTE IN GAMES = SUBJECTIVE

The only true winner of SYSTEMWARS is defined by which console wins the sales battle.

Cows and Lemmings are obviously in severe, mass damage control

IronMaidenLives

I don't think it helps by attaching insulting labels to people who prefer a specific console.

Dude get a grip. This is a war. War people arent nice. There are sides. Its makes this more fun. If we were all friends and there was no arguing this site wouldent be as exciting. Were all gamers here and we all pretty much enjoy batteling each other. And the names dont hurt. Im a lemming big whoop. I like being a lemming you are a whatever.
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#25 IMuGGeDSaTaN
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[QUOTE="dustin-diamond"]

TASTE IN GAMES = SUBJECTIVE

The only true winner of SYSTEMWARS is defined by which console wins the sales battle.

Cows and Lemmings are obviously in severe, mass damage control

SecretPolice
Not damage control - just feel it's unfair to compare a hand held ( small enough and the graphics - lol ) to full blown this gen consoles ! See what I mean? ;)

lol pwned!!!!!!!!
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#26 Dm1uciano
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[QUOTE="Dm1uciano"][QUOTE="WickeeKing"][QUOTE="Dm1uciano"]

Sales are fine and dandy,

But I think Metroid deserves better graphics then what the Wii can offer.

It's such a shame.

samusarmada

But Metroid also deserves the control which only Wii can provide... so it evens out. Though, I'd cream myself to see Metroid Prime 1 in 1440 x 900 widescreen with full anistropic filtering and all high res textures, etc.  

I don't see how the Wii Remote will make Metroid any better.  If anything, I think it'll make the game worse, gameplay wise.

Everyone was terrified when metroid was announced for the GC as a "fps" surely you can have a bit of faith.

The GC was not as graphically inferior last gen then the Wii is this gen.

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In other topics, when someone claims the Wii is winning, there are two common responses..

1) It is not a next-gen console.

2) Sales don't matter.

The latter is what baffles me. If there is such a thing as a console war, in which the company that sells the most consoles wins, then how can one think that sales don't matter?

Of course, one may have his/her opinions to which console is better. That is subjective. Personally, I cannot contribute anything to this because I do not own any of the current gaming machines. But if we are to think there is such a thing as a console war, then by all means the Wii is winning because we must go by what the sales charts tell us, and one does not need to own any of these machines to see this. Also, I am keeping this strictly to the three current major consoles. Not the DS, PS2, etc.

One more thing that must be noted is nobody has won anything yet. Even though the Wii is winning, it has not won. Vice versa with the PS3. It may not be selling as much but by no means has it lost.

Now we get to the former statement. I believe the Wii to be the official next generation Nintendo console. To say otherwise is unfounded. Some may say that because it lacks the power of the 360 and PS3, it cannot be. Are we to believe that Sony and MS set the standard for what should be considered a next-gen console? Does next-gen define itself by power or timeline? Or both?

Either way, have fun with your gaming machines.

God bless, Maiden out.

IronMaidenLives

the only thing  i agree whit you is IRON MAIDEN LIVES .........  

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[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="samusarmada"]If the ps3 starts winning,samusarmada

:lol: Dude I literally laughed out loud when I read that.....Wait, your serious?? :shock:

thats the most pointless response i have ever read. 1. You negated to see the "If" in my statement. 2. You neglected to actually read the whole statement. 3. You neglected to realise how it relates to the topic. Please :roll:

Sorry sir.

1. I read the entire statement.

2. If I had disregarded the IF, I wouldnt have quoted it.

3. I realise how it relates to the topic which is why I asked if you were serious.

4. Pointless response? Well the same could be said for you?  :shock: 

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The wii is like a hyundai it sells alot but nobody really wants one if they can afford a better car ie the 360 or ps3 are much better than the wii. The wii is just a gamecube with a new controller for more money.
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Personally I think game quality is what matters but then again that all comes down to game taste (opinion related).
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Sales does matter. it's the only thing that gives two indivuals a common ground to state an arguement on which is better.
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#32 dustin-diamond
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="dustin-diamond"]

TASTE IN GAMES = SUBJECTIVE

The only true winner of SYSTEMWARS is defined by which console wins the sales battle.

Cows and Lemmings are obviously in severe, mass damage control

IMuGGeDSaTaN
Not damage control - just feel it's unfair to compare a hand held ( small enough and the graphics - lol ) to full blown this gen consoles ! See what I mean? ;)

lol pwned!!!!!!!!

lmao worst attempt at ownage Ive ever seen.
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#33 IronMaidenLives
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Sale do not equate to the quality of the product. When people bring up sales, they prove nothing.
It's one thing to be impressed by sales, and to inform people about them. It's another thing to use said sales in evidence that your console is better than another.
purplemidgets

I agree. As I said before, if you were to stick to a system war, then the Wii/360 - whichever - is winning.

Which one has the best of quality is a different story.

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#34 IMuGGeDSaTaN
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The wii is like a hyundai it sells alot but nobody really wants one if they can afford a better car ie the 360 or ps3 are much better than the wii. The wii is just a gamecube with a new controller for more money.ChiChiMonKilla
Exactlly I got a Wii. I got bored of it and got enough money to buy a 360. Bye bye to my Wii. Tru story.
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[QUOTE="WickeeKing"][QUOTE="Dm1uciano"]

Sales are fine and dandy,

But I think Metroid deserves better graphics then what the Wii can offer.

It's such a shame.

Dm1uciano

But Metroid also deserves the control which only Wii can provide... so it evens out. Though, I'd cream myself to see Metroid Prime 1 in 1440 x 900 widescreen with full anistropic filtering and all high res textures, etc.

I don't see how the Wii Remote will make Metroid any better. If anything, I think it'll make the game worse, gameplay wise.

Why would it?
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[QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"]The wii is like a hyundai it sells alot but nobody really wants one if they can afford a better car ie the 360 or ps3 are much better than the wii. The wii is just a gamecube with a new controller for more money.IMuGGeDSaTaN
Exactlly I got a Wii. I got bored of it and got enough money to buy a 360. Bye bye to my Wii. Tru story.

Good for you I have the 360/ps3 and I will never buy a gamecube for $250. 

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#37 IronMaidenLives
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The wii is like a hyundai it sells alot but nobody really wants one if they can afford a better car ie the 360 or ps3 are much better than the wii. The wii is just a gamecube with a new controller for more money.ChiChiMonKilla

I was under the impression the Wii was at least twice as powerful as the GC. If this is true, then how is your statement valid?

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#38 IMuGGeDSaTaN
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[QUOTE="IMuGGeDSaTaN"][QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"]The wii is like a hyundai it sells alot but nobody really wants one if they can afford a better car ie the 360 or ps3 are much better than the wii. The wii is just a gamecube with a new controller for more money.ChiChiMonKilla

Exactlly I got a Wii. I got bored of it and got enough money to buy a 360. Bye bye to my Wii. Tru story.

Good for you I have the 360/ps3 and I will never buy a gamecube for $250. 

Im working construction over the Summer and im thinking about getting a PS3 also. Or a PSP so I have a handheld.
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#39 IMuGGeDSaTaN
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[QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"]The wii is like a hyundai it sells alot but nobody really wants one if they can afford a better car ie the 360 or ps3 are much better than the wii. The wii is just a gamecube with a new controller for more money.IronMaidenLives

I was under the impression the Wii was at least twice as powerful as the GC. If this is true, then how is your statement valid?

It is but compared to the 360 and the PS3 its just a Atari,
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#40 IronMaidenLives
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[QUOTE="IronMaidenLives"][QUOTE="dustin-diamond"]

TASTE IN GAMES = SUBJECTIVE

The only true winner of SYSTEMWARS is defined by which console wins the sales battle.

Cows and Lemmings are obviously in severe, mass damage control

IMuGGeDSaTaN

I don't think it helps by attaching insulting labels to people who prefer a specific console.

Dude get a grip. This is a war. War people arent nice. There are sides. Its makes this more fun. If we were all friends and there was no arguing this site wouldent be as exciting. Were all gamers here and we all pretty much enjoy batteling each other. And the names dont hurt. Im a lemming big whoop. I like being a lemming you are a whatever.

Then your maturity must be questioned. I believe one can debate and have fun without insulting.

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#41 ChiChiMonKilla
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[QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"]The wii is like a hyundai it sells alot but nobody really wants one if they can afford a better car ie the 360 or ps3 are much better than the wii. The wii is just a gamecube with a new controller for more money.IronMaidenLives

I was under the impression the Wii was at least twice as powerful as the GC. If this is true, then how is your statement valid?

The current wii games look worse than the old gamecube games (in Kurt angle voice) OH IT'S TRUE !!

If the wii is 2x stronger then the games don't show it. I have not seen 1 wii game that could not be done on the old xbox. So where is all this power in the wii-mote ??? 

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#42 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="IMuGGeDSaTaN"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="dustin-diamond"]

TASTE IN GAMES = SUBJECTIVE

The only true winner of SYSTEMWARS is defined by which console wins the sales battle.

Cows and Lemmings are obviously in severe, mass damage control

dustin-diamond
Not damage control - just feel it's unfair to compare a hand held ( small enough and the graphics - lol ) to full blown this gen consoles ! See what I mean? ;)

lol pwned!!!!!!!!

lmao worst attempt at ownage Ive ever seen.

                 Sounds to me like you are " whistling past the grave yard " but that really does'nt work - you still look scared - LMAO;)
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#43 IronMaidenLives
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[QUOTE="IronMaidenLives"]

[QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"]The wii is like a hyundai it sells alot but nobody really wants one if they can afford a better car ie the 360 or ps3 are much better than the wii. The wii is just a gamecube with a new controller for more money.IMuGGeDSaTaN

I was under the impression the Wii was at least twice as powerful as the GC. If this is true, then how is your statement valid?

It is but compared to the 360 and the PS3 its just a Atari,

Ok. But that still does not mean it is "just a gamecube with a new controller". Let's keep this real.

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[QUOTE="Dm1uciano"][QUOTE="WickeeKing"][QUOTE="Dm1uciano"]

Sales are fine and dandy,

But I think Metroid deserves better graphics then what the Wii can offer.

It's such a shame.

ithilgore2006

But Metroid also deserves the control which only Wii can provide... so it evens out. Though, I'd cream myself to see Metroid Prime 1 in 1440 x 900 widescreen with full anistropic filtering and all high res textures, etc.

I don't see how the Wii Remote will make Metroid any better. If anything, I think it'll make the game worse, gameplay wise.

Why would it?

I just don't see how.

I played Red Steel and COD on the Wii and it just doesn't work...

I like Meteroid, but I'll pass since the Wii fail to provide anything other then motion sensor.

 

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#45 dustin-diamond
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[QUOTE="dustin-diamond"][QUOTE="IMuGGeDSaTaN"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="dustin-diamond"]

TASTE IN GAMES = SUBJECTIVE

The only true winner of SYSTEMWARS is defined by which console wins the sales battle.

Cows and Lemmings are obviously in severe, mass damage control

SecretPolice
Not damage control - just feel it's unfair to compare a hand held ( small enough and the graphics - lol ) to full blown this gen consoles ! See what I mean? ;)

lol pwned!!!!!!!!

lmao worst attempt at ownage Ive ever seen.

                 Sounds to me like you are " whistling past the grave yard " but that really does'nt work - you still look scared - LMAO;)

Graveyard is that place where consoles who get crushed in sales go... like the 360 or PS3 for instance.
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Sheep have fun talking about sales despite the fact they hadn't gotten a good game post Wii launch.

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[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Dm1uciano"][QUOTE="WickeeKing"][QUOTE="Dm1uciano"]

Sales are fine and dandy,

But I think Metroid deserves better graphics then what the Wii can offer.

It's such a shame.

Dm1uciano

But Metroid also deserves the control which only Wii can provide... so it evens out. Though, I'd cream myself to see Metroid Prime 1 in 1440 x 900 widescreen with full anistropic filtering and all high res textures, etc.

I don't see how the Wii Remote will make Metroid any better. If anything, I think it'll make the game worse, gameplay wise.

Why would it?

I just don't see how.

I played Red Steel and COD on the Wii and it just doesn't work...

I like Meteroid, but I'll pass since the Wii fail to provide anything other then motion sensor.

 

In other words.

Nintendo sold their hardcore gamers out for a cheap console.

And sales is important?

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#48 IronMaidenLives
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[QUOTE="IronMaidenLives"]

[QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"]The wii is like a hyundai it sells alot but nobody really wants one if they can afford a better car ie the 360 or ps3 are much better than the wii. The wii is just a gamecube with a new controller for more money.ChiChiMonKilla

I was under the impression the Wii was at least twice as powerful as the GC. If this is true, then how is your statement valid?

The current wii games look worse than the old gamecube games (in Kurt angle voice) OH IT'S TRUE !!

If the wii is 2x stronger then the games don't show it. I have not seen 1 wii game that could not be done on the old xbox. So where is all this power in the wii-mote ??? 

Let's be fair. The system has been out for about 6 months. Give time to the developers. Maybe you will see something that will surprise you.

And there is no power in the Wiimote. It's only a controller.

I will say the same about the PS3. Give this system some time as well. Who knows what will happen. Maybe there will be more exclusives and it will jump on top.

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In other topics, when someone claims the Wii is winning, there are two common responses..

1) It is not a next-gen console.

2) Sales don't matter.

The latter is what baffles me. If there is such a thing as a console war, in which the company that sells the most consoles wins, then how can one think that sales don't matter?

Of course, one may have his/her opinions to which console is better. That is subjective. Personally, I cannot contribute anything to this because I do not own any of the current gaming machines. But if we are to think there is such a thing as a console war, then by all means the Wii is winning because we must go by what the sales charts tell us, and one does not need to own any of these machines to see this. Also, I am keeping this strictly to the three current major consoles. Not the DS, PS2, etc.

One more thing that must be noted is nobody has won anything yet. Even though the Wii is winning, it has not won. Vice versa with the PS3. It may not be selling as much but by no means has it lost.

Now we get to the former statement. I believe the Wii to be the official next generation Nintendo console. To say otherwise is unfounded. Some may say that because it lacks the power of the 360 and PS3, it cannot be. Are we to believe that Sony and MS set the standard for what should be considered a next-gen console? Does next-gen define itself by power or timeline? Or both?

Either way, have fun with your gaming machines.

God bless, Maiden out.

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Sales do matter but what matters more is what sells and to what audience. The GBA was a huge seller, way more then the PS2 yet it didnt pull games away from it, why because it was different hardware and appealed to a different audience. The Wii is the same way. Its a system that has seperated itself from the competition by using weaker hardware and motion controlling, that is great for Nintendo but not so good for game developers. 3rd party game developers wanna make games multiplat because that is how they make their money, by feeding off of all the gaming community, but the Wiis hardware and controls are so different it makes porting a game that has the 360/PS3 hardware in mind almost impossible. That is why you have the Wii feeding off of PS2 ports while the 360/PS3 get games like Assasins Creed, GTA, Army of Two, Darkness, etc... Then to top it off the Wii focuses on two major genres, mini games and party games. So what you get is 3rd party companies either avoiding it or just dumping some gimmicky crap on the Wii. The Wii is like the DS and GBA a great system, especially if your a Nintendo fan, but if your not a huge Nintendo fan, you wouldnt be happy with it being your ONLY gaming system.
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#50 IronMaidenLives
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[QUOTE="IronMaidenLives"]

In other topics, when someone claims the Wii is winning, there are two common responses..

1) It is not a next-gen console.

2) Sales don't matter.

The latter is what baffles me. If there is such a thing as a console war, in which the company that sells the most consoles wins, then how can one think that sales don't matter?

Of course, one may have his/her opinions to which console is better. That is subjective. Personally, I cannot contribute anything to this because I do not own any of the current gaming machines. But if we are to think there is such a thing as a console war, then by all means the Wii is winning because we must go by what the sales charts tell us, and one does not need to own any of these machines to see this. Also, I am keeping this strictly to the three current major consoles. Not the DS, PS2, etc.

One more thing that must be noted is nobody has won anything yet. Even though the Wii is winning, it has not won. Vice versa with the PS3. It may not be selling as much but by no means has it lost.

Now we get to the former statement. I believe the Wii to be the official next generation Nintendo console. To say otherwise is unfounded. Some may say that because it lacks the power of the 360 and PS3, it cannot be. Are we to believe that Sony and MS set the standard for what should be considered a next-gen console? Does next-gen define itself by power or timeline? Or both?

Either way, have fun with your gaming machines.

God bless, Maiden out.

Javy03

Sales do matter but what matters more is what sells and to what audience. The GBA was a huge seller, way more then the PS2 yet it didnt pull games away from it, why because it was different hardware and appealed to a different audience. The Wii is the same way. Its a system that has seperated itself from the competition by using weaker hardware and motion controlling, that is great for Nintendo but not so good for game developers. 3rd party game developers wanna make games multiplat because that is how they make their money, by feeding off of all the gaming community, but the Wiis hardware and controls are so different it makes porting a game that has the 360/PS3 hardware in mind almost impossible. That is why you have the Wii feeding off of PS2 ports while the 360/PS3 get games like Assasins Creed, GTA, Army of Two, Darkness, etc... Then to top it off the Wii focuses on two major genres, mini games and party games. So what you get is 3rd party companies either avoiding it or just dumping some gimmicky crap on the Wii. The Wii is like the DS and GBA a great system, especially if your a Nintendo fan, but if your not a huge Nintendo fan, you wouldnt be happy with it being your ONLY gaming system.

Nice insight. I appreciate your view.