if a game is terrible on a console but good on PC then i consider it to be PC exclusive...
team fortress 2 for instance
sure you can play it console..but its TERRIBLE
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I like how the TC makes up pathethic rules and limitations to try and say that the PC has a weak lineup.
For your information, TC, the gen began in 2005, expansion packs count and we use GS scores, no matter how much we disagree with them.
Try the updated list.
agentfred
:lol: The PC has 11 AAAE and 60 AAE, while the consoles have 1 AAAAE, 11 AAAE and 28 AAE. Pretty lopsided overall. :lol:
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Expansion packs kind of count on the PC. GioVela2010
Not in this thread, try again
Kay. Well consoles have no AAAEs if you don't count non-expansion packs. Discuss. Its easier to prove your point when you discount something so that you're right.
Hahaha, Gio got owned hard. Troll much? OP had been established as a ban dodger.Dynafrom
Original Post still stands, nothing has been disproven.
"bah bah please please count expansion packs"
For the record, in the same time period PS3 has had:
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Expansion packs kind of count on the PC. GioVela2010
Not in this thread, try again
then 8 hours games don't count either, there goes your precious gears of wars and halo. There has not been a single fps this gen that has a better sp game than farcry[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]higher standards. also: sence when do expantion packs not count?jeezersthey shouldnt, thats like saying the dlc for gt4 on xbox should count, extra content added to a current game shouldnt count then that 6 hour games call of duty 4 or halo3 should not count as a AAA game.
Games like Crysis prove that graphics don't make up for rather dull and reused gameplay, however this year it seems like its going to be one amazing year for the PC gamers with games like sc2, dawn of war, diablo 3, empire, and plenty of others looming around! So hopefully it can turn this drought into an oasis.Diviniuzso why is that game that reuses every single bit of the game over and over get such good scores? (call of duty 4) cod4 reuses stuff and repeate more than just about every other shooter this gen, really it's call of duty 4 rinse and recycle.
This thread is sad. The only way he can argue against PC gamers is by making up 'rules'. Bu..bu..No expansion packs! :cry:, Bu..bu.. teh gamerankingz! :cry:. A new low for console fanboys.steve17989not as low as hermits constantly hiding behind their pathetic damage control of "higher standards" :lol:
At Gamerankings.
Why all thePC hype?
.5 = 5 months
GioVela2010
reviews meaning nothing to me i have my own opinion.
[QUOTE="steve17989"]This thread is sad. The only way he can argue against PC gamers is by making up 'rules'. Bu..bu..No expansion packs! :cry:, Bu..bu.. teh gamerankingz! :cry:. A new low for console fanboys.hopesfall2ownnot as low as hermits constantly hiding behind their pathetic damage control of "higher standards" :lol:
That 'damage control' has some truth behind it, even though it's used far too often. The only way console fanboys in this thread can argue against PC gamers is by creating 'rules' that put the PC at a disadvantage. Funny how console fanboys defend each other, even in threads as biased and one-sided as this one. :lol:
I like how the TC makes up pathethic rules and limitations to try and say that the PC has a weak lineup.
For your information, TC, the gen began in 2005, expansion packs count and we use GS scores, no matter how much we disagree with them.
[QUOTE="agentfred"]
Try the updated list.
aliblabla2007
:lol: The PC has 11 AAAE and 60 AAE, while the consoles have 1 AAAAE, 11 AAAE and 28 AAE. Pretty lopsided overall. :lol:
lol, poor console fanboys need to find various ways to counter pc's superiority .. buh buh expansion packs don't count ... buh buh we are considering GameRankings instead of GSPeople are going to say higher standards to try and justify this. I guess we can say this about any platform that has a low amount of AAAe games.Zero5000X
[QUOTE="Dynafrom"]Hahaha, Gio got owned hard. Troll much? OP had been established as a ban dodger.GioVela2010
Original Post still stands, nothing has been disproven.
"bah bah please please count expansion packs"
For the record, in the same time period PS3 has had:
[QUOTE="Dynafrom"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"]Uncharted = Average Ratio: 89.6% Fail. MGS4 & KZ 2 are sequels and don't count. So uh littlebigplanet but since the sp sucks it doesn't count either. See I can make up rules?Original Post still stands, nothing has been disproven.
"bah bah please please count expansion packs"
For the record, in the same time period PS3 has had:
- Uncharted 90%
- Little Big Planet 94%
- MGS4 93%
- Killzone 2 92%
GioVela2010
LMAO weak sauce :lol:
He's copying the basis of your arguement, so in turn your calling your own arguement weaksauce. Self-owned :lol: . Your almost too easy, but what else would I expect from a console fanboy? :lol:
Uncharted = Average Ratio: 89.6% Fail. MGS4 & KZ 2 are sequels and don't count. So uh littlebigplanet but since the sp sucks it doesn't count either. See I can make up rules?DynafromUncharted has Nathan Drake and his half-tuck so + 1. However, not enough Space Marines so -1. Making up our own rules for a thread is awesome!
[QUOTE="GioVela2010"][QUOTE="Dynafrom"] Uncharted = Average Ratio: 89.6% Fail. MGS4 & KZ 2 are sequels and don't count. So uh littlebigplanet but since the sp sucks it doesn't count either. See I can make up rules?steve17989
LMAO weak sauce :lol:
He's copying the basis of your arguement, so in turn your calling your own arguement weaksauce. Self-owned :lol: . Your almost too easy, but what else would I expect from a console fanboy :lol:.
He's copying my argument? I'm not holding back 89.5+ PC games from being AAA...
[QUOTE="steve17989"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"]
LMAO weak sauce :lol:
GioVela2010
He's copying the basis of your arguement, so in turn your calling your own arguement weaksauce. Self-owned :lol: . Your almost too easy, but what else would I expect from a console fanboy :lol:.
He's copying my argument? I'm not holding back 89.5+ PC games from being AAA...
You made your own 'rules' such as only using gamerankings and expansions packs don't count, to put the PC at a disadvantage. So he's taking a page out of your book and making rules to put the PS3 at a disadvantage. It shows how flawed and biased your argument is. I'm surprised I actually had to explain that too you...
[QUOTE="steve17989"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"]
LMAO weak sauce :lol:
GioVela2010
He's copying the basis of your arguement, so in turn your calling your own arguement weaksauce. Self-owned :lol: . Your almost too easy, but what else would I expect from a console fanboy :lol:.
He's copying my argument? I'm not holding back 89.5+ PC games from being AAA...
you're holding back PC AAAEs just because they don't have enough reviews though. It's a bit funny that even using GR you couldn't make a decent argument, you had to make up at least two more rules to finally achieve your result. Using this method one can always pick and choose rules in a way that will make his platform the best one out there .
Expansions don't count because they are not a full game...they are expansions. Also, higher standards my ass...is that why a lot of multiplats released today get the same ratings on the pc as they do on 360? What about Mass Effect? It scored even higher.Devour2Survive
Yet expansions have more content than most retail console games. They feature new camapigns, units, maps and usually graphical effects. I don't see why they shouldn't count. Most of the time Gamespot copy's and pastes the consoles reviews to the PC version, they don't review it individually (look at Left 4 Dead). I don't believe the PC has higher standards, only for RTS games, but that's my opinion and many people would disagree with it.
Expansions don't count because they are not a full game...they are expansions. Also, higher standards my ass...is that why a lot of multiplats released today get the same ratings on the pc as they do on 360? What about Mass Effect? It scored even higher.Devour2SurviveGoogle Relic Entertainment, their stand-alone expansion packs contain more content than the vast majority of console games. As for Mass Effect, the PC version not only had the obvious visual improvements, but the gameplay was re-worked to make better use of the PC (ie. the addition of hotkeys). Also, I'd argue that the console version should have been a 9.0 anyway.
Expansions don't count because they are not a full game..Devour2SurviveIf expansion packs don't count then neither do XBLA games.
Also..what if it's not expansion pack, but a stand alone release? That is a full game
[QUOTE="GioVela2010"][QUOTE="Dynafrom"]Hahaha, Gio got owned hard. Troll much? OP had been established as a ban dodger.Dynafrom
Original Post still stands, nothing has been disproven.
"bah bah please please count expansion packs"
For the record, in the same time period PS3 has had:
Expansions don't count because they are not a full game...they are expansions.Devour2SurviveThey are expansions because they expand on the original game. Saying they don't count because they are expansion is like saying games like Gears 2 doesn't count as a full game ... as they are sequels
If expansion packs don't count then neither do XBLA games.[QUOTE="Devour2Survive"]Expansions don't count because they are not a full game..AdrianWerner
Sounds fair to me. PS3 wins again
Expansions don't count because they are not a full game...they are expansions. Also, higher standards my ass...is that why a lot of multiplats released today get the same ratings on the pc as they do on 360? What about Mass Effect? It scored even higher.Devour2SurviveBecause scoring multiplats is often warped. And game like ME however probably got such a score on its own merits.
Standards exist, clearly when a platform has such a legacy of titles....
[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]If expansion packs don't count then neither do XBLA games.[QUOTE="Devour2Survive"]Expansions don't count because they are not a full game..GioVela2010
Sounds fair to me. PS3 wins again
Luckily expansions do count. Not sure about XBLA games. PC wins every gen though, so there's not much point debating that.
[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]If expansion packs don't count then neither do XBLA games.[QUOTE="Devour2Survive"]Expansions don't count because they are not a full game..GioVela2010
Sounds fair to me. PS3 wins again
it would be tied with PC with 3AAAEsIf expansion packs don't count then neither do XBLA games. But an XBLA game is a game in it's entirity where as an expansion isn't. But if we're talkin' standalone expansions, well that's different.[QUOTE="Devour2Survive"]Expansions don't count because they are not a full game..AdrianWerner
[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]If expansion packs don't count then neither do XBLA games. But an XBLA game is a game in it's entirity where as an expansion isn't. But if we're talkin' standalone expansions, well that's different.[QUOTE="Devour2Survive"]Expansions don't count because they are not a full game..elektrixxx
it still isn't a full game. And the only AAAE XBLA game 360 has is GeoWars2..which seriously compared to add-ons...
But an XBLA game is a game in it's entirity where as an expansion isn't. But if we're talkin' standalone expansions, well that's different.elektrixxx
[QUOTE="Devour2Survive"]Expansions don't count because they are not a full game...they are expansions.navalThey are expansions because they expand on the original game. Saying they don't count because they are expansion is like saying games like Gears 2 doesn't count as a full game ... as they are sequels Gears 2 doesn't have a 4 hour campaign mode. Gears 2 is more than a slight upgrade...they wouldn't spend a couple years on nothing you know.
[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="Devour2Survive"]Expansions don't count because they are not a full game...they are expansions.Devour2SurviveThey are expansions because they expand on the original game. Saying they don't count because they are expansion is like saying games like Gears 2 doesn't count as a full game ... as they are sequels Gears 2 doesn't have a 4 hour campaign mode. Gears 2 is more than a slight upgrade...they wouldn't spend a couple years on nothing you know.
There are many expansions packs that add more content to a game than what Gear of War 2 has. Expansion packs upgrade graphics, add hours of extra gameplay and add more multiplayer option/maps. I still don't see why they shouldn't be counted.
[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="Devour2Survive"]Expansions don't count because they are not a full game...they are expansions.Devour2SurviveThey are expansions because they expand on the original game. Saying they don't count because they are expansion is like saying games like Gears 2 doesn't count as a full game ... as they are sequels Gears 2 doesn't have a 4 hour campaign mode. Gears 2 is more than a slight upgrade...they wouldn't spend a couple years on nothing you know. So we are going by length ? well then many expansions have 5 times the content of gears 2, so why shouldn't they be counted if you count games like gears 2 ?
[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="Devour2Survive"]Expansions don't count because they are not a full game...they are expansions.Devour2SurviveThey are expansions because they expand on the original game. Saying they don't count because they are expansion is like saying games like Gears 2 doesn't count as a full game ... as they are sequels Gears 2 doesn't have a 4 hour campaign mode. Gears 2 is more than a slight upgrade...they wouldn't spend a couple years on nothing you know.Many expansions are far more than 'slight upgrades'....
Expansions don't count because they are not a full game...they are expansions. Also, higher standards my ass...is that why a lot of multiplats released today get the same ratings on the pc as they do on 360? What about Mass Effect? It scored even higher.Devour2SurviveMaybe because it was much better on PC ever thought of that? And If you read how GS rates games they do it by the standards of the system. Expansions do count no matter how many times you say it they do.
[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="Devour2Survive"]Expansions don't count because they are not a full game...they are expansions.Devour2SurviveThey are expansions because they expand on the original game. Saying they don't count because they are expansion is like saying games like Gears 2 doesn't count as a full game ... as they are sequels Gears 2 doesn't have a 4 hour campaign mode. Gears 2 is more than a slight upgrade...they wouldn't spend a couple years on nothing you know.
Usualy they do that with a patch on PC or a free mod...
[QUOTE="Icarian"]You do realize that most of those PC games were released before 360 or PS3? It isn't really fair to compare all games from system that has been around for several decades to systems that were released couple years ago. If you want to keep it fair, you should either compare games only released after the releases of 360 or PS3, or take also games from original Xbox, PSone and PS2 into consideration. And I think that PSone + PS2 + PS3 games pretty much kills PC.
markop2003
You seem to think that PC gamers don't play old games, recently i've been playing Stronghold (2001) and Crysis (2007). Jujst because a game is old dosn't make it bad.
Did I write that? No. I meant that PC has been around for decades, but current gen consoles only couple years. It isn't fair to compare the whole lifecycle of PC to 360, PS3 or Wii. Of course PC has more games, more good games than these consoles because it's much older platform. I play mostly only old games on PC nowadays. Right now I'm playing Age of Mythology to remember Ensemble.
If you really want to take all games released on PC into this, then you should also take all games released to Sony Playstation, Microsoft Xbox or Nintendo's consoles.
Did I write that? No. I meant that PC has been around for decades, but current gen consoles only couple years. It isn't fair to compare the whole lifecycle of PC to 360, PS3 or Wii. Of course PC has more games, more good games than these consoles because it's much older platform. I play mostly only old games on PC nowadays. Right now I'm playing Age of Mythology to remember Ensemble.
If you really want to take all games released on PC into this, then you should also take all games released to Sony Playstation, Microsoft Xbox or Nintendo's consoles.
Icarian
Ugh, people should really do their research before they jump into an argument.
Everytime a new gen starts, the PC is forced to follow it, for some dumb reason. Even taking that into account, the PC has 71 exclusives above 8.0, whereas consoles as a whole only have 40. This gen.
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