I played FFXI on all 3 platforms and it was freakin sweet as all hell. Really thothisawesome we get a cross platorm MMO (which is rare) again after the previous gen had one as well. Who is stoked to be running withguilds/linkshells and rockin FFXIV?
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I played FFXI on all 3 platforms and it was freakin sweet as all hell. Really thothisawesome we get a cross platorm MMO (which is rare) again after the previous gen had one as well. Who is stoked to be running withguilds/linkshells and rockin FFXIV?
I got world of warcraft...far richer world and lore than any FF team could dream of inventing.
FF will be graphics and fail to WoW just like Age of Conan etc.
And apparently you know how awesome FFXIV is going to be. :|I'm so jealous :roll: because we all know how totally awesome everyone thought FFXI was.
St_muscat
yea too bad wows quests are so dull and boring, if it didnt have pvp nobody would still play it. i liked ffxi alot and played on all 3 platforms too, im sure 14 will be better than xi since it was their first mmo after all and now se has more experience in that area. an xbox version will come out soon after i can gurantee it or on MS's next console if it comes out soon. itd be dumb of SE not to do it, they can get more players and with ffxi the multi plat online gaming worked very well. since the pc people would just cheat with bots all the timeI got world of warcraft...far richer world and lore than any FF team could dream of inventing.
FF will be graphics and fail to WoW just like Age of Conan etc.
Human-after-all
why would you play ff14 when you could play a better mmo? considering all cows have supercomputers anyways, a cross platform mmo shouldnt be that exciting. also.....its multiplat, so no one cares.mtradr43whats a better mmo and how do u know ff14 will be worse than this so called mmo when u have yet to play it? it actually is exciting cuz u dont see many cross platform mmos to a console besides ffxi and it lets there be more people playing the game which was great for ffxi, if its multiplat and nobody cares, why do u since ur posting on the topic for this game then? :o nobody must have cared about mass effect 2 either or the tons of other multiplat games to pc either then huh? LOL
[QUOTE="Human-after-all"]yea too bad wows quests are so dull and boring, if it didnt have pvp nobody would still play it. i liked ffxi alot and played on all 3 platforms too, im sure 14 will be better than xi since it was their first mmo after all and now se has more experience in that area. an xbox version will come out soon after i can gurantee it or on MS's next console if it comes out soon. itd be dumb of SE not to do it, they can get more players and with ffxi the multi plat online gaming worked very well. since the pc people would just cheat with bots all the timeI got world of warcraft...far richer world and lore than any FF team could dream of inventing.
FF will be graphics and fail to WoW just like Age of Conan etc.
Bangerman15
WoW's quests dull and boring? Show me an MMO with an engaging quest system please even Conan's got old and FFXI...what quests. At least WoW has some decent lore behind some of the quests, FFXI didn't have jack it was one giant party grind, absolute garbage.
If WoW didn't have pvp? well it does. Just like if Final Fantasy didn't have "Final Fantasy" in the title, no one would play it? I can play that stupid game to.
[QUOTE="Human-after-all"]yea too bad wows quests are so dull and boring, if it didnt have pvp nobody would still play it. i liked ffxi alot and played on all 3 platforms too, im sure 14 will be better than xi since it was their first mmo after all and now se has more experience in that area. an xbox version will come out soon after i can gurantee it or on MS's next console if it comes out soon. itd be dumb of SE not to do it, they can get more players and with ffxi the multi plat online gaming worked very well. since the pc people would just cheat with bots all the timeHave you ever played WoW? You can go ahead and tell the 15 million people who play WoW that the quests are dull and boring.I got world of warcraft...far richer world and lore than any FF team could dream of inventing.
FF will be graphics and fail to WoW just like Age of Conan etc.
Bangerman15
why would you play ff14 when you could play a better mmo? considering all cows have supercomputers anyways, a cross platform mmo shouldnt be that exciting. also.....its multiplat, so no one cares.mtradr43Your joking right? FF14 and ToR are the 2 upcoming titans, and tbh im going to be blunt and go against the bioware/star wars fanboys that dont realize its a wow clone with dialogue... FF14 has alot more potential even based on whats revealed so far.
I got world of warcraft...far richer world and lore than any FF team could dream of inventing.
Human-after-all
To bad WoW took the Warcraft lore and and turned it into one big cluster****.
Lore? you mean the Lore thats just shoved in fed-ex quests and 1 trailer per big content patch? :roll: Im sorry I didnt know Lore made a game good. But then again anyone that still thinks WoW is the best MMO just likes thier hands held with no achievement whatsover.... the game is an empty shell of its original design so please, you are fanboying up the Modern Warfare 2 of the MMO genre. nobody cares anymore.I got world of warcraft...far richer world and lore than any FF team could dream of inventing.
FF will be graphics and fail to WoW just like Age of Conan etc.
Human-after-all
yea too bad wows quests are so dull and boring, if it didnt have pvp nobody would still play it. i liked ffxi alot and played on all 3 platforms too, im sure 14 will be better than xi since it was their first mmo after all and now se has more experience in that area. an xbox version will come out soon after i can gurantee it or on MS's next console if it comes out soon. itd be dumb of SE not to do it, they can get more players and with ffxi the multi plat online gaming worked very well. since the pc people would just cheat with bots all the time[QUOTE="Bangerman15"][QUOTE="Human-after-all"]
I got world of warcraft...far richer world and lore than any FF team could dream of inventing.
FF will be graphics and fail to WoW just like Age of Conan etc.
Human-after-all
WoW's quests dull and boring? Show me an MMO with an engaging quest system please even Conan's got old and FFXI...what quests. At least WoW has some decent lore behind some of the quests, FFXI didn't have jack it was one giant party grind, absolute garbage.
If WoW didn't have pvp? well it does. Just like if Final Fantasy didn't have "Final Fantasy" in the title, no one would play it? I can play that stupid game to.
You dont get it, fed ex quests are lame.... being spammed quests is lame.... its anti-social, it encourages solo play over team play, I much prefered Final Fantasy 11's system.... where quests were long/rewarding/difficult and important BUT RARE.... and that the main enpahsis o f the game was partying with friends to level, and the better you lot were the faster you progressed..... not mindlessly going from point A B C D on your own for 80 levels. Oh? but instances you say? you mean the constant heroic grinding that isnt even a challenge because everyone and thier mother is 50-80 item levels above the isntances difficulty? The game that has so much income yet barely adds anything new? FF11 had a much better endgame, regaurdless of the flaws (deleveling, insane grinds to get to 75 ecT)FF MMOs stink to high heaven. This is the kind of stuff to expect FF 11 boss takes 18 hours to beat causes vomiting if i wanted to play a mmo again I would play WoW again and least that would be good.
So 1 design philosophy ( one that wasnt even essential nor supplied better loot than a 4 hour dungeon) all of a sudden condemns thier next MMO? Doesnt matter what you think, fact of the matter is alot of players liked it (I dont agree though) ... and it was there for them. Lets continue to have WoW's 5 minute bosses.... sorry I mean pinnatas.FF MMOs stink to high heaven. This is the kind of stuff to expect FF 11 boss takes 18 hours to beat causes vomiting if i wanted to play a mmo again I would play WoW again and least that would be good.
SilentlyMad
It worked before... for FF11.... only the PS2/360 users wernt as good (based on controls and communication) so alot of PC Gamers would refuse them in groups.Birdy09
[QUOTE="Birdy09"]It worked before... for FF11.... only the PS2/360 users wernt as good (based on controls and communication) so alot of PC Gamers would refuse them in groups.Darkslayer16
[QUOTE="St_muscat"]And apparently you know how awesome FFXIV is going to be. :| Well if FFXI is anything to go by then I know exactly how awesome FFXIV is going to be ;) Do you seriously think believe FFXIV is going to be able to knock off games like WoW to become king of the MMO's when the developers previous effort (and only MMO effort) was only passible? If you want to make a bet on it I glady will, because I just don't see FFXIV being this awesome MMO to be jealous about.I'm so jealous :roll: because we all know how totally awesome everyone thought FFXI was.
Captain_Auburn
And apparently you know how awesome FFXIV is going to be. :| Well if FFXI is anything to go by then I know exactly how awesome FFXIV is going to be ;) Do you seriously think believe FFXIV is going to be able to knock off games like WoW to become king of the MMO's when the developers previous effort (and only MMO effort) was only passible? If you want to make a bet on it I glady will, because I just don't see FFXIV being this awesome MMO to be jealous about. Only passable? to who? Its one of the higher scoring MMOs, its had a stable 500k base what... 6 years later and still has expansions coming? one of the richest end games of any EQ esque MMOs. And was one of the most popular... prior to WoWs release. "Passable"? it did a hell of a lot better than most.... including the hype typical "Generic PC Fanboy Hyped" junk like Warhammer Online & Age of Conan.... and im going to add The Old Republic to that list next year I can bet money on it :P[QUOTE="Captain_Auburn"][QUOTE="St_muscat"]
I'm so jealous :roll: because we all know how totally awesome everyone thought FFXI was.
St_muscat
I cant wait til next year when ToR faceplants.... and FF14 actually does good, PC gamers dont know what they want anymore. FF14 is just as much a PC game as any other PC MMO.Yeah,no thanks. I´ll go with top notch PC mmo´s such as WoW or the upcoming TOR.
I guess it will be a big deal on the PS3,and that´s something.
Arach666
I've Played Both FFXI and WOW for 3 years each. FFXI I had a 75BLM, 75WHM, 75SMN. WOW I had a 70 warlock, 70 shadow priest, and a 70 Paladin. I enjoyed both, however I would have to say FFXI was the better experience for me, it had more Comraderie, you had to have a group of ppl to get anything accomplished in the game, and when you finally completed those month long quest of getting Sky or Sea access, there was a sence of accomplishment and relief. I also enjoyed the end game of FFXI more, cause you weren't guaranteed to even get a shot at a king or other HNM, but when you did, and you were lucky enough to get a your koeing or your Dalmatica it was much more rewarding. in WOW I never got that sence of accomplishment or to the full extent of Comraderie that FFXI gave me even when my WOW Guild and I were the 3rd guild on our server to take down Illidan.
IMO WOW died alittle when TBC came out and it died even more with WOTLK, I quit playing WOW a few weeks after WOTLK. and I feel that the only reason why many ppl say WOW is better is because of the PVP aspect thrown in with the PVE aspect, can create some hella fun times.
I always felt WOW was more geared to kids and young adults with its casual solo style gameplay, while FFXI was more geared to the older audience with its team based skillchaining, magic bursting gameplay.
Both are great games / time sinks, but if I was to start fresh with either game it would be FFXI, much more rewarding experience.
I've been itching for a new MMO since I quit WOW around 2 years ago, and FFXIV is looking great and I can't wait to step into the world of Eorza (sp).
p.s. WOW is for instant gratification, and FFXI is for someone that just wants to play for along time, either way the real game doesn't start till you get to the endgame.
Cheers to that. Same reason I'm on board. I made a lot of friends on FF11 in my time with it, we always had a great time playing.I'm really excited. FFXI had a very pleaseing vibe to me, and I'm hoping that XIV carries it on.
VauxhalI
[QUOTE="St_muscat"]And apparently you know how awesome FFXIV is going to be. :|I'm so jealous :roll: because we all know how totally awesome everyone thought FFXI was.
Captain_Auburn
FFXI was awesome. :shock:
XIV will be out for 360 too, just a matter of time. And I'm really looking forward to XIV.
Honestly, I don't wanna pay monthly/yearly for anymore MMORPG's. I've had my fill of Asherons Call, WoW, Ultima, CoV + H, Star Wars Galaxies, EVE (couldn't get passed the super long tutorial...jesus its long), and then I discovered GUILD WARS.
Guild Wars helped me to see how dumb I was for paying monthly and I don't wanna go back.
I hope GUILD WARS 2 goes to PS3...that would be great.
[QUOTE="Arach666"]I cant wait til next year when ToR faceplants.... and FF14 actually does good, PC gamers dont know what they want anymore. FF14 is just as much a PC game as any other PC MMO. Yeah,the only thing is....that won´t happen.Yeah,no thanks. I´ll go with top notch PC mmo´s such as WoW or the upcoming TOR.
I guess it will be a big deal on the PS3,and that´s something.
Birdy09
[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="Arach666"]I cant wait til next year when ToR faceplants.... and FF14 actually does good, PC gamers dont know what they want anymore. FF14 is just as much a PC game as any other PC MMO. Yeah,the only thing is....that won´t happen. I know, just like Warhammer Online right? =] .... considering ToR is just WoW with a a star Wars theme, oh but the added twist is theres only 5 realy unique classes, and ontop of that the enphasis is on one time story options. The combat is just as normal and generic as the rest. At least FF is trying to push more strategic combat, more cooperative essence, and actually looks good. *yuck* yea we all love star wars for the anime 3d spin offs right? :SYeah,no thanks. I´ll go with top notch PC mmo´s such as WoW or the upcoming TOR.
I guess it will be a big deal on the PS3,and that´s something.
Arach666
Lets continue to have WoW's 5 minute bosses.... sorry I mean pinnatas.Birdy09
Can't be all that bad if you've played for 600+ hours.
[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="Arach666"]I cant wait til next year when ToR faceplants.... and FF14 actually does good, PC gamers dont know what they want anymore. FF14 is just as much a PC game as any other PC MMO. Yeah,the only thing is....that won´t happen. Please do not judge his crystal ball. :P He has clearly played both games so leave him be. On topic: We'll just have to wait and see just how good the game is.Yeah,no thanks. I´ll go with top notch PC mmo´s such as WoW or the upcoming TOR.
I guess it will be a big deal on the PS3,and that´s something.
Arach666
[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="Birdy09"] I cant wait til next year when ToR faceplants.... and FF14 actually does good, PC gamers dont know what they want anymore. FF14 is just as much a PC game as any other PC MMO.Birdy09Yeah,the only thing is....that won´t happen. I know, just like Warhammer Online right? =] .... considering ToR is just WoW with a a star Wars theme, oh but the added twist is theres only 5 realy unique classes, and ontop of that the enphasis is on one time story options. The combat is just as normal and generic as the rest. At least FF is trying to push more strategic combat, more cooperative essence, and actually looks good. *yuck* yea we all love star wars for the anime 3d spin offs right? :S
If you think TOR is just that,you should research about it a little more.
And,let´s be realistic here,do you actually think FF14 will be a big hit among PC gamers?
JRPG´s are sucessfull because of their popularity on the consoles,on the PC not only you have better options(a matter of taste,of course)and regarding MMO´s,I hardly think a FF game could compete with games developed by Blizzard or Bioware.
And then you have the free MMO´s on the picture as well,a game like Runes of Magic(a complete WoW clone)has a player count of 2.500.000+ so far.
I´m not dissing the quality of FF14,it seems a good game,but on the PC,I don´t see it being sucessfull.
On the PS3 however,that´s a diferent story.
[QUOTE="Birdy09"]Lets continue to have WoW's 5 minute bosses.... sorry I mean pinnatas.Silverbond
Can't be all that bad if you've played for 600+ hours.
:lol:
Anyway, why do they keep wasting FF numbers on stupid mmo's?
[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="Birdy09"] I cant wait til next year when ToR faceplants.... and FF14 actually does good, PC gamers dont know what they want anymore. FF14 is just as much a PC game as any other PC MMO.tagyhagYeah,the only thing is....that won´t happen. Please do not judge his crystal ball. :P He has clearly played both games so leave him be. On topic: We'll just have to wait and see just how good the game is. Ironic you say that when your all fanboying up ToR when the footage clearly shows what it is.... and for what? its star wars... and RPG developers that have no MMO experiance and are not known for great combat or itemization. but oh well.
If it was the other way around that excuse wouldnt be used in FF14s favour.
And apparently you know how awesome FFXIV is going to be. :| Well if FFXI is anything to go by then I know exactly how awesome FFXIV is going to be ;) Do you seriously think believe FFXIV is going to be able to knock off games like WoW to become king of the MMO's when the developers previous effort (and only MMO effort) was only passible? If you want to make a bet on it I glady will, because I just don't see FFXIV being this awesome MMO to be jealous about. If you actually did your research on the game, its going to be a lot different from XI. Never did I say its going to be the next MMO king, I actually don't think that will happen. But I can see it being the second best MMO(or should I say, second most popular MMO).[QUOTE="Captain_Auburn"][QUOTE="St_muscat"]
I'm so jealous :roll: because we all know how totally awesome everyone thought FFXI was.
St_muscat
I know, just like Warhammer Online right? =] .... considering ToR is just WoW with a a star Wars theme, oh but the added twist is theres only 5 realy unique classes, and ontop of that the enphasis is on one time story options. The combat is just as normal and generic as the rest. At least FF is trying to push more strategic combat, more cooperative essence, and actually looks good. *yuck* yea we all love star wars for the anime 3d spin offs right? :S[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="Arach666"] Yeah,the only thing is....that won´t happen.Arach666
If you think TOR is just that,you should research about it a little more.
And,let´s be realistic here,do you actually think FF14 will be a big hit among PC gamers?
JRPG´s are sucessfull because of their popularity on the consoles,on the PC not only you have better options(a matter of taste,of course)and regarding MMO´s,I hardly think a FF game could compete with games developed by Blizzard or Bioware.
And then you have the free MMO´s on the picture as well,a game like Runes of Magic(a complete WoW clone)has a player count of 2.500.000+ so far.
I´m not dissing the quality of FF14,it seems a good game,but on the PC,I don´t see it being sucessfull.
On the PS3 however,that´s a diferent story.
What are you basing that on? are you saying us PC gamers dont like JRPGs? its more of a case that the PC community in Japan is small and we dont receive thier games as much. FF11 was successful, very successful pre-WoW standards, so why not? I dont give a damn that WoW has 12 million subscribers when the servers can only handle 2000 on each side. and dont use the "brings in more money for development" excuse.... because WoW is an absolute shocking but true example of why thats not true. I dont consider Free MMOs, or rather dont compare them. My point of the matter is, ToR is going to be the Star Wars Hype fest, ive seen it all before and I dont doubt for a second that its initial sales will be amazing.... pretty much all the modern day failures have sold very well (Age of Conan, Warhammer Online ecT). FF11 still has 500k subcribers (no doubt going to decline , 6-7 years later. a very rich endgame and one of the more unique MMOs on the market, and its a mess! Its a PS2 game for a start... FF14 has its own PC studio working on making it much more fluent than FF11s interface which was disgusting on PC. And to factor in we know have the strong PS3 market.... a much better system to play online games on than the PS2..... supporting mice and keyboards aswell. FF14 is being HEAVILY underestimated while ToR is being blown far beyond its porportion. but if you feel im ignorant, go ahead tell me why. I made the effort, now its your turn >_>Please Log In to post.
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