So Sonys a raging success when ps3 lost them 4 billion dollars and vita bombed?

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these are all facts.


1. company has also been declared junk bond status,
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/11/22/sony-credit-rating-downgraded-to-junk-by-fitch/

2. they lost nearly all their marketshare this gen

3. 360 has gotten the better muliplats all gen

4. their franchises are either shallow cinematic titles and nintendo knockoffs like batal royale, and little big planet karting.

I want to like Sony but i just dont get why everyone around here tries to make them soud like some juggernaut when they have been so unsuccessful in recent years in almost everything they do... it just doent add up.

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these are all facts.


1. company has also been declared junk bond status,

2. they lost nearly all their marketshare this gen

3. 360 has gotten the better muliplats all gen

4. their franchises are either shallow cinematic titles and nintendo knockoffs like batal royale, and little big planet karting.

I want to like Sony but i just dont get why everyone around here tries to make them soud like some juggernaut when they have been so unsuccessful in recent years in almost everything they do... it just doent add up.

robotapple

 

its obvious you dont want to like sony... good job fakeboy

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#3 robotapple
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[QUOTE="robotapple"]these are all facts.


1. company has also been declared junk bond status,

2. they lost nearly all their marketshare this gen

3. 360 has gotten the better muliplats all gen

4. their franchises are either shallow cinematic titles and nintendo knockoffs like batal royale, and little big planet karting.

I want to like Sony but i just dont get why everyone around here tries to make them soud like some juggernaut when they have been so unsuccessful in recent years in almost everything they do... it just doent add up.xxgunslingerxx
 its obvious you dont want to like sony... good job fakeboy

who cares what you think about me? how about addressing some of the facts laid out here?

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[QUOTE="xxgunslingerxx"][QUOTE="robotapple"]these are all facts.


1. company has also been declared junk bond status,

2. they lost nearly all their marketshare this gen

3. 360 has gotten the better muliplats all gen

4. their franchises are either shallow cinematic titles and nintendo knockoffs like batal royale, and little big planet karting.

I want to like Sony but i just dont get why everyone around here tries to make them soud like some juggernaut when they have been so unsuccessful in recent years in almost everything they do... it just doent add up.robotapple

 its obvious you dont want to like sony... good job fakeboy

who cares what you think about me? how about addressing some of the facts laid out here?

First two are facts. Third is just not true, defiantly not to the degree many think at least. Forth is just plain opinion. GTFO
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[QUOTE="xxgunslingerxx"][QUOTE="robotapple"]these are all facts.


1. company has also been declared junk bond status,

2. they lost nearly all their marketshare this gen

3. 360 has gotten the better muliplats all gen

4. their franchises are either shallow cinematic titles and nintendo knockoffs like batal royale, and little big planet karting.

I want to like Sony but i just dont get why everyone around here tries to make them soud like some juggernaut when they have been so unsuccessful in recent years in almost everything they do... it just doent add up.robotapple

 its obvious you dont want to like sony... good job fakeboy

who cares what you think about me? how about addressing some of the facts laid out here?

As much as I would rebutte, that point already solidifies your position in this which makes me not wanna bother. I will commend you for making a thread that's more decent than the crap from StrongDeadlift I had to look at the past few days.
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Oh God A Robot Thread

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[QUOTE="robotapple"]

[QUOTE="xxgunslingerxx"] its obvious you dont want to like sony... good job fakeboygame_masta14

who cares what you think about me? how about addressing some of the facts laid out here?

As much as I would rebutte, that point already solidifies your position in this which makes me not wanna bother. I will commend you for making a thread that's more decent than the crap from StrongDeadlift I had to look at the past few days.

haha well you started off by lying to us but ok

the only 2 things you said that where true are your first 2 statements
and your first statement doesnt even have anything to do with gaming

also im pretty sure the playstation division is one of the few divisions sony has that isnt losng money in fact it is actually making money

so anyways your opinion topic has 3 lies.. actually 4 lies cause you say you want sony to succeed

i didnt really bother to point rebute your arguement in my first post because it was clear that you are a fake boy and too dumb to come actually provide a valid arguement

 

how is that? haha i dunno if there is a big enough ice pack for how my burns you just recieved

anyways good night kiddo i have to go to work in the morning

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Sony is in a bad situation.  Cows are too focused on stupid things like gddr5 ram when Sony is dying.  Its like the twilight zone here.

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these are all facts.


1. company has also been declared junk bond status,

2. they lost nearly all their marketshare this gen

3. 360 has gotten the better muliplats all gen

4. their franchises are either shallow cinematic titles and nintendo knockoffs like batal royale, and little big planet karting.

I want to like Sony but i just dont get why everyone around here tries to make them soud like some juggernaut when they have been so unsuccessful in recent years in almost everything they do... it just doent add up.

robotapple

1. sony stock was below 11 and is over 15.50 nice try

2. sony passed ms in the console race from being dead last and nintendo jumped to the next gen = winner sony

3. ps3 multiplats currently are even and sometimes better than the 360 versions

4. This is your tinfoil hat fact sony has more new and current ip's than everybody but the mighty pc this gen.

Nice bait keep tryng buddy

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[QUOTE="game_masta14"][QUOTE="robotapple"]who cares what you think about me? how about addressing some of the facts laid out here?xxgunslingerxx
As much as I would rebutte, that point already solidifies your position in this which makes me not wanna bother. I will commend you for making a thread that's more decent than the crap from StrongDeadlift I had to look at the past few days.

haha well you started off by lying to us but ok

the only 2 things you said that where true are your first 2 statements
and your first statement doesnt even have anything to do with gamingalso im pretty sure the playstation division is one of the few divisions sony has that isnt losng money in fact it is actually making money

so anyways your opinion topic has 3 lies.. actually 4 lies cause you say you want sony to succeedi didnt really bother to point rebute your arguement in my first post because it was clear that you are a fake boy and too dumb to come actually provide a valid arguement how is that? haha i dunno if there is a big enough ice pack for how my burns you just recievedanyways good night kiddo i have to go to work in the morning

actualy the playstation division has been one of their biggest money losers since the ps3 came out.

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[QUOTE="xxgunslingerxx"][QUOTE="game_masta14"] As much as I would rebutte, that point already solidifies your position in this which makes me not wanna bother. I will commend you for making a thread that's more decent than the crap from StrongDeadlift I had to look at the past few days.robotapple

haha well you started off by lying to us but ok

the only 2 things you said that where true are your first 2 statements
and your first statement doesnt even have anything to do with gamingalso im pretty sure the playstation division is one of the few divisions sony has that isnt losng money in fact it is actually making money

so anyways your opinion topic has 3 lies.. actually 4 lies cause you say you want sony to succeedi didnt really bother to point rebute your arguement in my first post because it was clear that you are a fake boy and too dumb to come actually provide a valid arguement how is that? haha i dunno if there is a big enough ice pack for how my burns you just recievedanyways good night kiddo i have to go to work in the morning

actualy the playstation division has been one of their biggest money losers since the ps3 came out.

You got proof to back up that statement because from what I usually here it's Sony's other division that are the big money losers and their PS division is more profitable than their others.
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[QUOTE="robotapple"]these are all facts.


1. company has also been declared junk bond status,

2. they lost nearly all their marketshare this gen

3. 360 has gotten the better muliplats all gen

4. their franchises are either shallow cinematic titles and nintendo knockoffs like batal royale, and little big planet karting.

I want to like Sony but i just dont get why everyone around here tries to make them soud like some juggernaut when they have been so unsuccessful in recent years in almost everything they do... it just doent add up.no-scope-AK47
1. sony stock was below 11 and is over 15.50 nice try2. sony passed ms in the console race from being dead last and nintendo jumped to the next gen = winner sony3. ps3 multiplats currently are even and sometimes better than the 360 versions4. This is your tinfoil hat fact sony has more new and current ip's than everybody but the mighty pc this gen.Nice bait keep tryng buddy

lol what does their stock have to do with junk bond status? that's their credit rating.

and you never addressed any of my oter points you simply made up a bunch of nonsense.

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[QUOTE="robotapple"][QUOTE="xxgunslingerxx"]haha well you started off by lying to us but ok

the only 2 things you said that where true are your first 2 statements
and your first statement doesnt even have anything to do with gamingalso im pretty sure the playstation division is one of the few divisions sony has that isnt losng money in fact it is actually making money

so anyways your opinion topic has 3 lies.. actually 4 lies cause you say you want sony to succeedi didnt really bother to point rebute your arguement in my first post because it was clear that you are a fake boy and too dumb to come actually provide a valid arguement how is that? haha i dunno if there is a big enough ice pack for how my burns you just recievedanyways good night kiddo i have to go to work in the morninggame_masta14
actualy the playstation division has been one of their biggest money losers since the ps3 came out.

You got proof to back up that statement because from what I usually here it's Sony's other division that are the big money losers and their PS division is more profitable than their others.

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/30/ps3-has-lost-sony-4-7-billion-may-be-profitable-next-year/

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the ramblings of a fanatical idiot

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[QUOTE="game_masta14"][QUOTE="robotapple"]actualy the playstation division has been one of their biggest money losers since the ps3 came out.robotapple

You got proof to back up that statement because from what I usually here it's Sony's other division that are the big money losers and their PS division is more profitable than their others.

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/30/ps3-has-lost-sony-4-7-billion-may-be-profitable-next-year/

Nice 2009 article. BTW where's the comparison to their other divisions? I never said the PS3 was making them money but their other divisions performed worse than their gaming one.
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these are all facts.


1. company has also been declared junk bond status,
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/11/22/sony-credit-rating-downgraded-to-junk-by-fitch/

2. they lost nearly all their marketshare this gen

3. 360 has gotten the better muliplats all gen

4. their franchises are either shallow cinematic titles and nintendo knockoffs like batal royale, and little big planet karting.

I want to like Sony but i just dont get why everyone around here tries to make them soud like some juggernaut when they have been so unsuccessful in recent years in almost everything they do... it just doent add up.

robotapple

Another Butthurt Lemming, another idiot troll with a new account, desperately trying to get his sad anti-Sony bablings across :lol:

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[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"][QUOTE="robotapple"]these are all facts.


1. company has also been declared junk bond status,

2. they lost nearly all their marketshare this gen

3. 360 has gotten the better muliplats all gen

4. their franchises are either shallow cinematic titles and nintendo knockoffs like batal royale, and little big planet karting.

I want to like Sony but i just dont get why everyone around here tries to make them soud like some juggernaut when they have been so unsuccessful in recent years in almost everything they do... it just doent add up.robotapple

1. sony stock was below 11 and is over 15.50 nice try

2. sony passed ms in the console race from being dead last and nintendo jumped to the next gen = winner sony

3. ps3 multiplats currently are even and sometimes better than the 360 versions

4. This is your tinfoil hat fact sony has more new and current ip's than everybody but the mighty pc this gen.Nice bait keep tryng buddy

lol what does their stock have to do with junk bond status? that's their credit rating.

and you never addressed any of my oter points you simply made up a bunch of nonsense.

So IYO stock prices have no bearing on the value of a company :lol:

Also I did cover your "facts" with the truth I know it hurts but you will get over it.

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[QUOTE="robotapple"]

[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]1. sony stock was below 11 and is over 15.50 nice try

2. sony passed ms in the console race from being dead last and nintendo jumped to the next gen = winner sony

3. ps3 multiplats currently are even and sometimes better than the 360 versions

4. This is your tinfoil hat fact sony has more new and current ip's than everybody but the mighty pc this gen.Nice bait keep tryng buddyno-scope-AK47

lol what does their stock have to do with junk bond status? that's their credit rating.

and you never addressed any of my oter points you simply made up a bunch of nonsense.

So IYO stock prices have no bearing on the value of a company :lol:

Also I did cover your "facts" with the truth I know it hurts but you will get over it.

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just stop making threads
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these are all facts.


1. company has also been declared junk bond status,
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/11/22/sony-credit-rating-downgraded-to-junk-by-fitch/

2. they lost nearly all their marketshare this gen

3. 360 has gotten the better muliplats all gen

4. their franchises are either shallow cinematic titles and nintendo knockoffs like batal royale, and little big planet karting.

I want to like Sony but i just dont get why everyone around here tries to make them soud like some juggernaut when they have been so unsuccessful in recent years in almost everything they do... it just doent add up.

robotapple

Just forget Sony and move on with your life !!!

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[QUOTE="robotapple"]

these are all facts.


1. company has also been declared junk bond status,
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/11/22/sony-credit-rating-downgraded-to-junk-by-fitch/

2. they lost nearly all their marketshare this gen

3. 360 has gotten the better muliplats all gen

4. their franchises are either shallow cinematic titles and nintendo knockoffs like batal royale, and little big planet karting.

I want to like Sony but i just dont get why everyone around here tries to make them soud like some juggernaut when they have been so unsuccessful in recent years in almost everything they do... it just doent add up.

Malta_1980

Just forget Sony and move on with your life !!!

He can't sony has all the games he likes so he is a bit upset.

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sony passed ms in the console race from being dead lastno-scope-AK47
I have heard cows say this a million times, so I will ask this for the 1 millionth time. Can yo give me a source to back this up?
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[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]sony passed ms in the console race from being dead lastTheWalkingGhost
I have heard cows say this a million times, so I will ask this for the 1 millionth time. Can yo give me a source to back this up?

HERE YOU GO BRO

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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]sony passed ms in the console race from being dead lastno-scope-AK47

I have heard cows say this a million times, so I will ask this for the 1 millionth time. Can yo give me a source to back this up?

HERE YOU GO BRO

Nice try. That says shipments, they have shipped a million more. Now show me a link that says sales and not shipments. Shipped does not equal Sold.
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[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]I have heard cows say this a million times, so I will ask this for the 1 millionth time. Can yo give me a source to back this up?TheWalkingGhost

HERE YOU GO BRO

Nice try. That says shipments, they have shipped a million more. Now show me a link that says sales and not shipments. Shipped does not equal Sold.

Now unless they just changed the rules these are the numbers we have always used. Show me where SW's is not using shipped and where we can get current consoles sold numbers :roll:

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these are all facts.


1. company has also been declared junk bond status,
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/11/22/sony-credit-rating-downgraded-to-junk-by-fitch/

2. they lost nearly all their marketshare this gen

3. 360 has gotten the better muliplats all gen

4. their franchises are either shallow cinematic titles and nintendo knockoffs like batal royale, and little big planet karting.

I want to like Sony but i just dont get why everyone around here tries to make them soud like some juggernaut when they have been so unsuccessful in recent years in almost everything they do... it just doent add up.

robotapple
Ill make it easy for you then why Sony is the most respected company as far as video gaming goes... DO YOU KNOW MANY COMPANIES THAT WOULD HAVE 4Billion loses out of a console BUT THEY WOULD STILL DELIVER fantastic games , FREE internet and many other things ? What you calling "success" ( aka Wii ) died almost 2 years ago , when was a very "healthy" product with x2 sales of PS3. Why to like Nintendo and not Sony for example ?!! Whats your logic behind that ( basically theres no logic , you clearly trolling but just saying ) So how the heck i shouldnt like Sony. Give me a valid reason because i care less if they lost marketshare , if X360 has better multis or if they have junk bond status.. What matters to me ARE GAMES and THAT ALONE.
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Business wise no one can call it a success

-came in last place

-went from 140 mil to 70 mil

-lost more money then was made.

Gamer wise no one can call it a success

-It was the system with the fewest amount of games out of all systems

-Out of 4 systems it came in 3rd when it comes to critic scores being behind the 360 and PC.

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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]sony passed ms in the console race from being dead lastno-scope-AK47

I have heard cows say this a million times, so I will ask this for the 1 millionth time. Can yo give me a source to back this up?

HERE YOU GO BRO

That is a guess from some company that does not have access to company numbers. Try reading the link more clearly.
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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

HERE YOU GO BRO

no-scope-AK47

Nice try. That says shipments, they have shipped a million more. Now show me a link that says sales and not shipments. Shipped does not equal Sold.

Now unless they just changed the rules these are the numbers we have always used. Show me where SW's is not using shipped and where we can get current consoles sold numbers :roll:


- You shouldn't use shipped for common sense reasons.
- You're the one trying to prove the point, so it's your problem to find the official numbers. 

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Business wise no one can call it a success

-came in last place

-went from 140 mil to 70 mil

-lost more money then was made.

Gamer wise no one can call it a success

-It was the system with the fewest amount of games out of all systems

-Out of 4 systems it came in 3rd when it comes to critic scores being behind the 360 and PC.

CanYouDiglt
The Wii came in last place for being a piece of ****. Let's not forget that please.
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No one can ever diss Sony at this time in System wars, if you do you will instantly get a "buthurt pic" or something similar, even if you make a good thread and back it up with fact, not saying that this thread is good, just saying this is what apllies right now in System wars.

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$ony Collapsation Continuation. They will be making PS4's out of Kaz's garden shed soon, funded by a Kickstarter :lol:

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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]sony passed ms in the console race from being dead lastno-scope-AK47

I have heard cows say this a million times, so I will ask this for the 1 millionth time. Can yo give me a source to back this up?

HERE YOU GO BRO

So, you're still using the IDC FORCAST (aka. prediction) numbers that have already been debunked on here?  :?

Do you have an OFFICIAL source of that?  

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#35 AcidThunder
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Business wise no one can call it a success

-came in last place

-went from 140 mil to 70 mil

-lost more money then was made.

Gamer wise no one can call it a success

-It was the system with the fewest amount of games out of all systems

-Out of 4 systems it came in 3rd when it comes to critic scores being behind the 360 and PC.

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still holding on to that metacritic based DLC infested flawed list i see
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#36 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]I have heard cows say this a million times, so I will ask this for the 1 millionth time. Can yo give me a source to back this up?CanYouDiglt

HERE YOU GO BRO

That is a guess from some company that does not have access to company numbers. Try reading the link more clearly.

Trust me, he knows.  Just like every Cow who posts those numbers knows.  

Those numbers are a FORCAST based on NOTHING, by someone who does not have access to the official numbers, and not actual numbers.  

A forcast made by the same company who made THIS forcast :lol:

 

has been debunked in every thread its been in, but Cows will repeat this to themselves until they believe it.  Believe me, Jack Tretton knows whether or not the PS3 passed the 360.  If it did, Sony would be shouting from the rooftops about it.  You really dont think Sony would have spun this into a PR angle at its press conference? :?

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#37 no-scope-AK47
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[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]I have heard cows say this a million times, so I will ask this for the 1 millionth time. Can yo give me a source to back this up?StrongDeadlift

HERE YOU GO BRO

So, you're still using the IDC FORCAST (aka. prediction) numbers that have already been debunked on here?  :?

Do you have an OFFICIAL source of that?  

Okay I will have to take your word that it was debunked last I checked in 2012 sony was just over 1 million behind the 360 in sept. I know they are very close despite the 360 having a year head start and the ps3 selling for 600 with no games. If that is not the greatest turn around in gaming history what is ??

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#38 Sweenix
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http://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-xbox-division-has-lost-nearly-3-billion-in-10-years

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#39 delta3074
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[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]So IYO stock prices have no bearing on the value of a company :lol

he's actually right though, SONY's shares do have Junk status according to ratings agencys.

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#40 delta3074
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[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"] Nice try. That says shipments, they have shipped a million more. Now show me a link that says sales and not shipments. Shipped does not equal Sold.trugs26

Now unless they just changed the rules these are the numbers we have always used. Show me where SW's is not using shipped and where we can get current consoles sold numbers :roll:


- You shouldn't use shipped for common sense reasons.
- You're the one trying to prove the point, so it's your problem to find the official numbers. 

we use shipped numbers because there is no accurate sell through data for a lot of regions including europe, Shipped data is the most accurate Data we have to guage how many consoles have been sold.
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#41 OneInchMan99
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these are all facts.


1. company has also been declared junk bond status,
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/11/22/sony-credit-rating-downgraded-to-junk-by-fitch/

2. they lost nearly all their marketshare this gen

3. 360 has gotten the better muliplats all gen

4. their franchises are either shallow cinematic titles and nintendo knockoffs like batal royale, and little big planet karting.

I want to like Sony but i just dont get why everyone around here tries to make them soud like some juggernaut when they have been so unsuccessful in recent years in almost everything they do... it just doent add up.

robotapple

You like facts I see....heres another one,you're an idiot.

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#43 TheWalkingGhost
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M8ingSeezun, is that picture even allowed to be posted here?
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#45 HalcyonScarlet
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There is some truth here and the cows need it since they're always exaggerating.

Declaring the PS3 the winner and best thing ever, as if it wasn't Sonys most flawed console. Pound for pound (for their respective eras), the PS3 can't touch the PS1 and 2 in any area what so ever and it only matches the 360 down the middle however you want to spin it.

Declaring the PS4 the winner because... it was announced. :roll:

And given the amount of topics they churn out to this affect on a daily basis, you can't begrudge TC this one.

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#46 walkingdream
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OP is right....mostly....funny watching the cows go into a fit though lol
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Can't everyone just ignore the 2 facts that are actually biased opinions and consider the two actual facts here? These two are NOT facts, they are simply the opinion of the Robotapple and can be ignored since telling someone their opinion is wrong is just a waste of time. "360 has gotten the better muliplats all gen" "their franchises are either shallow cinematic titles and Nintendo knockoffs like battle royale, and little big planet karting." However: The Company has also been declared junk bond status (http://www.joystiq.com/2012/11/22/sony-credit-rating-downgraded-to-junk-by-fitch/) They lost nearly all their marketshare this gen (side note: "nearly all of" isn't really accurate but lets look at some facts/official figures) I'm going to start by saying that based on the information i put forward, both these facts are true. Sony has recently been given junk bond status (although this is Sony overall and can't be attributed to the just the gaming area or the performance of the PS3) this might change in the future but as far as anyone could be concerned, at the time that I post this, this is true. As for market share I'm going to simply compare Sony's performance in prior generations to the current generation. When comparing the PS2 to the PS3, the number of consoles sold has dropped dramatically. Sony recently hit 77 million consoles sold on the PS3, according to that article on GameSpot mentioned earlier, but comparing that figure to 155 million PS2 consoles sold? (PS2 sales figure is at the bottom of this: http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1735312/Sony-to-announce-launch-of-new-PlayStation). Granted no console has ever reached the same number of sales as the PS2 but with just these figures it could be said that Sony has lost half its market share, although I can't back up this estimate. With the PS4 coming out that people will jump on the PS3 (which probably won't be at the end of its lifespan even with the PS4 coming out) so there is a chance that the gap between the PS2 and 3 shrinks a bit but at the moment, Sony will need to sell around 25 million more consoles just to match the original PlayStation, standing at 103 million sales, let alone the PS2. While the PlayStation 3 must have performed at an acceptable level since Sony is still supporting it and releasing a successor, It's future in the gaming industry could be seen as questionable due to its junk bond status (which can scare away potential investment) and the amount of negativity from gaming journalists following the PS4 unveiling. Granted gaming journalists are a difficult bunch which will prefer to highlight the negative (or positive if they feel they can get away with the bias) side of any news unless there is a bribe in the works somewhere but that's just my opinion on the reliability of gaming journalists in general. I'm sure Sony could perfect their marketing at E3 and some journalist somewhere will call it a failure! Anyway answering the title of the topic, Did Sony loose $4 billion throughout the lifespan of the PS3? I honestly can't find anything that supports this (if you can please bring it up!) and while the Vita might not be performing well at the moment, Sony has done some big things to help it, like the price cut in Japan leading to its sales quadrupling (according to the article GameSpot posted on the subject) and its incorporation into the PS4 shown at the unveiling. So will Sony rise, fall or stay as it is over the next few years? Who knows? I expect E3 to be the next big step for Sony so lets wait and see how things unfold and as always, Time will tell. For the benefit of flamers I've taken care to ensure all the arguments above are solely focused on Sony and I haven't mentioned any of its competitors. I apologize in advance for any bias that anyone perceives.
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System wars has a terminal case of selective reality.... cows just happen to be the most infected....
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#49 Miketheman83
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The PS3 just started to be comparable to the 360 recently...unfortunately the generation is over. Sony fans are weird, they are not living in reality.
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#50 LadyBlue
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robotapple thread... lol