So the only thing Vita has over 3DS now is graphics

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#1 deactivated-58085ca3415e8
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Since a second stick is being added 3DS will once again have the upper hand. It will have more games on offer, it will be more affordable and most importantly it will probably have the better battery life again (since PS3 power must rape the battery).

Since Nintendo are being nice enough to give sticks as add ons to existing systems the factor a lot of these Vita fanboys argued against 3DS is probably now going to be redundant. Provided these rumours are true that is.

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Since a second stick is being added 3DS will once again have the upper hand. It will have more games on offer, it will be more affordable and most importantly it will probably have the better battery life again (since PS3 power must rape the battery).

Since Nintendo are being nice enough to give sticks as add ons to existing systems the factor a lot of these Vita fanboys argued against 3DS is probably now going to be redundant. Provided these rumours are true that is.

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I just held mine for a minute and I have no idea where they are going to put a second analog stick. So I find it hard to believe this rumor.
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#3 OreoMilkshake
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The 3DS isn't getting a second stick.
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#4 deactivated-58085ca3415e8
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The 3DS isn't getting a second stick.OreoMilkshake

Hence why I said provided the rumour is true ;)

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#5 mattuk69
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I wish i had my Vita like you. I gotta wait till 2012:roll:

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#6 Dante_May_Die
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You forgot vita has 3G , actual LAUNCH GAMES , cross game chat etc
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#7 GD1551
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Wait you think nintendo is competent enough and in touch with gamers enough to add something as expected as a second analog stick to their handheld?

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#8 deactivated-58085ca3415e8
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You forgot vita has 3G , actual LAUNCH GAMES , cross game chat etcDante_May_Die

I heard everyone giving the finger to the 3G provider. And the launch titles aren't confirmed. Those are the games confirmed to be coming to the system.

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#9 mmmwksil
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The only thing Vita ever had over 3DS was horespower, anyway. Games don't exactly count because people's tastes differ.

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#10 Ventara
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I wish I had a time machine too.

Seriously though, the Vita and 3DS are pretty different, and it doesn't matter what they have over each other, what matters is that their games are enjoyable.

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#11 ArchoNils2
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Even if it gets a second stick (lol @ everyone who belives that) it has overall more power, extremly much more online stuff, trophies, 3g and stuff like friends near you etc., fantastic first party Ips, better cameras, ... I'm getting bored to list more

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#12 Oil_Rope_Bombs
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Uh... you haven't even used the Vita. You don't know what it has over 3DS, at all.
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#13 SakusEnvoy
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Devil's advocate: The DS didn't need amazing graphics because most of its best games were 2D. Most of the 3DS's games are 3D. Graphics may end up being more important than they were last gen... if 3DS games start looking worse than the games you can play in cell phones, people may be immediately turned off despite the quality of the content.

That said, the most important thing is games. The 3DS games lineup sounds pretty good, but I'm tired of talking about lineups (and that goes for the Vita as well). If Nintendo is going to have a whole year headstart, they should have more than 1 compelling AA/AAAEs by now. The holiday lineup better deliver.

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#14 bbkkristian
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Yeah, but I look at games that interest me, not games that are graphically superior. Look at Minecraft.
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#15 quickposter
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Even if it gets a second stick (lol @ everyone who belives that)ArchoNils2

Not saying I believe it yet but it does explain why Metal Gear Solid was delayed. I'm still having a hard time picturing a stick added though (on the first model).

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#16 Vyse_Legends
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Yeah, but I look at games that interest me, not games that are graphically superior. Look at Minecraft.bbkkristian
Look at NieR!:D

Sorry had tasay it.:P

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#17 Ravensmash
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Why are people jumping to conclusions over a rumour and taking it as fact?
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#18 DerekLoffin
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Things Vita has that 3DS does not - -dual analog -multitouch -OLED screen -back touch pad -GPS and 3g (although honestly most will likely skip this model) -An actual respectable online infrastructure. -Oh yes, and MOAR POWR! :P That said, if that rumor is true, Vita is better off. Not because it has an advantage in functionality, but because Nintendo is SERIOUSLY desperate to change the gameplay functionality of their handheld. They will tick off their existing owners, and developers won't widely support the new functionality, worst of both worlds. Hence why I think said rumor is BS.
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#19 mmmwksil
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]Yeah, but I look at games that interest me, not games that are graphically superior. Look at Minecraft.Vyse_Legends

Look at NieR!:D

Sorry had tasay it.:P

Oh you! :P

Keep this up and I may have to buy it :o

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#20 thatisfalse
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cross game chat on a handheld is a bigger deal than u guys realize. MMO's, or anything online oriented are going to be HUGE. I won't add anything else because I find this thread to be obvious flamebait.
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#21 Vyse_Legends
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[QUOTE="Vyse_Legends"]

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]Yeah, but I look at games that interest me, not games that are graphically superior. Look at Minecraft.mmmwksil

Look at NieR!:D

Sorry had tasay it.:P

Oh you! :P

Keep this up and I may have to buy it :o

Hey if this place is allowed to have a CoD, BF, GeOW3, U3, ConsolevsPC, Nintendo dying thread, PSV vs 3DS thread every hour...it can surely handle me posting about NieR once a day.:P

And you should.:| Or I cut you!:twisted:

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#22 Jurassic85
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TC, do you really think that the reason people were not buying the 3DS was the lack of a 2nd analog stick? Seriously? Its the lack of software! Even if the 3DS has a 2nd stick from the start I wouldn't have run out and bought one.
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Hey if this place is allowed to have a CoD, BF, GeOW3, U3, ConsolevsPC, Nintendo dying thread, PSV vs 3DS thread every hour...it can surely handle me posting about NieR once a day.:P

And you should.:| Or I cut you!:twisted:

Vyse_Legends

B-But :o If you cut me, I'll bleed! And that's no good :o

I'll do what you say! I'll buy NieR!

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#24 CwlHeddwyn
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I wish I had a time machine too.

Seriously though, the Vita and 3DS are pretty different, and it doesn't matter what they have over each other, what matters is that their games are enjoyable.

Ventara
Exactly, they are two different systems catering to different audiences. All that matters is the actual games.
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#25 JohnF111
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All it will be is a little stick on add-on over the dpad turning it into an analogue, if Vita gets one of those then... oh dear i don't even wanna think what'll happen on here. :roll: A redesign is never happening, a simple accessory will happen.
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#26 Vyse_Legends
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[QUOTE="Vyse_Legends"]

Hey if this place is allowed to have a CoD, BF, GeOW3, U3, ConsolevsPC, Nintendo dying thread, PSV vs 3DS thread every hour...it can surely handle me posting about NieR once a day.:P

And you should.:| Or I cut you!:twisted:

mmmwksil

B-But :o If you cut me, I'll bleed! And that's no good :o

I'll do what you say! I'll buy NieR!

Yeah well hang with me long enough...and you're bound to lose some blood.;)

Not if I buy NieR again first! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! ...wait...wrong response...buy it now.:|

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#27 minh800
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Since a second stick is being added 3DS will once again have the upper hand. It will have more games on offer, it will be more affordable and most importantly it will probably have the better battery life again (since PS3 power must rape the battery).

Since Nintendo are being nice enough to give sticks as add ons to existing systems the factor a lot of these Vita fanboys argued against 3DS is probably now going to be redundant. Provided these rumours are true that is.

icegamerice

You're not making much sense. 1. The current lineups for both are underwhelming. Quantity means nothing if the 3DS doesn't have enough quality which it does not. 2. The Vita is the successor to the PSP - that means quite a lot when it comes to Japanese software support. 3. We don't know the battery life of the Vita but it will at least match the 3DS's from the rumors going around. 4. If the rumors are true, why wouldn't that hurt Nintendo's business model even more? You can't continually screw with early adopters.

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#28 thatisfalse
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1.I don't find the Vita's lineup to be underwhelming 2.Number 1 is true even with TGS still around the corner
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#29 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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They aren't putting a second analog stick. That would be disaster.

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#30 Knight_of_Malta
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I wish i had my Vita like you. I gotta wait till 2012:roll:

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#31 lulmont
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and the screen can't beat a OLED screen.

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#32 CaptainAhab13
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If anything is added to the 3DS, it'll be an accesory, probably not a new iteration of the system.

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#33 moistsandwich
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For me its the 3DS....

I dont care enough about handheld gaming to invest in a 2nd portable device... already have 3DS...

and Super Mario 3D >>> whatever the PSV is getting/might get in the future, imo.

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All i kno is that i want a Vita... not so much 3ds. Mabe il pick it up for Zelda OoT just cause thats my fav game ever :P
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#35 minh800
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1.I don't find the Vita's lineup to be underwhelming 2.Number 1 is true even with TGS still around the cornerthatisfalse

When I think about the games known to be released in the first year, it seems pretty underwhelming. I expected as much, though, and with SCEJ's recent statements, I'm hoping I'm right on why it's underwhelming.

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You forgot vita has 3G , actual LAUNCH GAMES , cross game chat etcDante_May_Die
Nobody knows the launch games...:| The 3DS had a truckload of games announced before its lackluster launch
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#37 campzor
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no and also games. Better ports as well LOL
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#38 93BlackHawk93
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no and also games. Better ports as well LOLcampzor
That doesn't make sense. It hasn't even released, and "better ports", how?
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#39 HaloPimp978
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All your points are true, but I would call the VITA more of social device than a gaming handheld.

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#40 psx_warrior
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I'll laugh with glee if their announcement turns out to be that Xenoblade Chronicles is coming over here instead of a redesign, along with all the great 3ds games they'll announce.
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#41 KevinPlanet
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The PSV will have better online functionality, potential for dollar app g potential for PS3/PSV "transfarring" (ex: Playing "Deathspank" on PS3 then playing it on PSV), I see this as a much greater advantage that people might be overlooking, downloadable titles are massively popular and if Sony finds a way of emulating the current library of downloadable games to the PS Vita then a slew of launch titles won't even be all that necessary for it to be enjoyed. Anyone whos dealt with WiiWare and DSiWare knows its downloadable selection is incredibly lackluster compared to the PS Store...

The games will make the 3DS worth buying but I still consider the PS Vita to be a better buy

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#42 supdotcom
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and games.

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#43 darth-pyschosis
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You forgot vita has 3G , actual LAUNCH GAMES , cross game chat etcDante_May_Die
Since when do we actually know what games are coming out on a launch date that hasn't been revealed yet? Guys, the Vita software launch is going to suck like every other game platform launch does. You know how people complained that the only good games at 3DS launch were ports/remakes and games that were better on other systems. So Little Big Planet, Modnation, WipeOut and Uncharted suddenly are going to not receive that too? Every console has a weak launch because simply put, stuff doesn't work out as planned. Also flooding too many big titles at once is a terrible idea. The only reason Zelda released 2 months after launch was because it would've PO'ed third parties at launch as the Zelda game (which btw 1/4 of all 3DS owners) would've bought it and not a third party game. There is a lot more strategy involved in planning a launch line up then actually delivering big name IPs.
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#44 CaptainAhab13
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I'll laugh with glee if their announcement turns out to be that Xenoblade Chronicles is coming over here instead of a redesign, along with all the great 3ds games they'll announce.psx_warrior
This is most likely what will happen.
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#45 WilliamRLBaker
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Short of them completely removing Pseudo 3d from the *rumored* redesign its still not in the cards for me...on the other hand the Vita still has hope if they offer one thats less then 200 and they go back on using M2...

Otherwise it seems like the vita is the more well rounded system for me.

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#46 deactivated-58085ca3415e8
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All it will be is a little stick on add-on over the dpad turning it into an analogue, if Vita gets one of those then... oh dear i don't even wanna think what'll happen on here. :roll: A redesign is never happening, a simple accessory will happen.JohnF111

If you think a redesign is never happening then you obviously don't know tradition with handheld systems. Vita will likely get a redesign as well.

@ DerekLoffin No. You are just making the typical Internet reaction about it "its bad news because its ticking off existing owners and its ticking off devs". If there is truth to this then it isn't ticking off as many owners as you assume. It would if it was just an all new model but (once again pretending this is true) there is an add on for existing 3DS owners. That is not making current 3DS systems obsolete is it?

Its no worse than going and buying four seperate Move devices. If you have to play a multiplayer game with Move (some of which Move is a standard) then you have to buy at least a second controller. That is ticking off customers who bought move in the first place. See I can do that too.

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#47 theshadowhunter
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IMHO neither is getting my attention, my m11x has more uses then either of them and more batterylife. I have a DS lite and I havent touched it since I got a laptop for portable gaming.

Its just so sad to me that a laptop can beat out a 3DS on batterylife while gaming. sorta destroys the whole purpose of these things doesnt it?

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@ DerekLoffin No. You are just making the typical Internet reaction about it "its bad news because its ticking off existing owners and its ticking off devs". If there is truth to this then it isn't ticking off as many owners as you assume. It would if it was just an all new model but (once again pretending this is true) there is an add on for existing 3DS owners. That is not making current 3DS systems obsolete is it?

Its no worse than going and buying four seperate Move devices. If you have to play a multiplayer game with Move (some of which Move is a standard) then you have to buy at least a second controller. That is ticking off customers who bought move in the first place. See I can do that too.

icegamerice

Yeah, and how much support is move getting again? Hardly any other than some poor tacked on optional controls. Plus that is a home console, you don't get away with this kind of stuff on portable system which are supposed to be a single unit. It WILL tick off current owners (sure not all, but a good chunk of them), and dev's won't be ticked, they just won't use it, or at best it will be optional like move, making it rather pointless as an upgrade. This is all around a stupid premiss anyway. Nintendo would have to be SERIOUSLY desperate to change the controls on the device this quickly, and there is really no reason they should be that desperate. I haven't heard wide screams for a second analog out of developers, and sales haven't even been properly analyzed yet from the price drop, let alone getting the good games out to conclude the public is seriously desiring such a change either. The only way this is true is there is some major behind closed doors hard talking coming from the dev community threatening to drop out, and I just don't see it, and splitting your salesbase is the last way you want to appease developers.

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#49 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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If anything is added to the 3DS, it'll be an accesory, probably not a new iteration of the system.

CaptainAhab13

So you are suggesting that at least part of the announcement will be a pokemon game.

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#50 Mario1331
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there is not going to be a redesign taking out 3d that woud be retarted a redesign on sumthin else more then likely