So the only thing Vita has over 3DS now is graphics

Wait you think nintendo is competent enough and in touch with gamers enough to add something as expected as a second analog stick to their handheld?

GD1551

And then I remembered: I was in system wars

but yeah... 3ds isn't getting a second analog stick, because if not for left-handed gamers, it would be pointless.

Does anyone else think that the clip-on joystick will merely be a means of converting the already existing slider into a stick?

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Wait you think nintendo is competent enough and in touch with gamers enough to add something as expected as a second analog stick to their handheld?

DARKNESSxEAGLE

And then I remembered: I was in system wars

but yeah... 3ds isn't getting a second analog stick, because if not for left-handed gamers, it would be pointless.

If you think that it would be pointless, you never played on the PSP.

The Vita has nothing over the 3DS at the moment because it hasn't been released. Until both systems are on the shelves you can't compare them.

You forgot vita has 3G , actual LAUNCH GAMES , cross game chat etcDante_May_Die

[QUOTE="Dante_May_Die"]You forgot vita has 3G , actual LAUNCH GAMES , cross game chat etcicegamerice

I heard everyone giving the finger to the 3G provider. And the launch titles aren't confirmed. Those are the games confirmed to be coming to the system.

yea they are

Things Vita has that 3DS does not - -dual analog -multitouch -OLED screen -back touch pad -GPS and 3g (although honestly most will likely skip this model) -An actual respectable online infrastructure. -Oh yes, and MOAR POWR!DerekLoffin

[QUOTE="Dante_May_Die"]You forgot vita has 3G , actual LAUNCH GAMES , cross game chat etcdarth-pyschosis

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]All it will be is a little stick on add-on over the dpad turning it into an analogue, if Vita gets one of those then... oh dear i don't even wanna think what'll happen on here. :roll: A redesign is never happening, a simple accessory will happen.icegamerice

If you think a redesign is never happening then you obviously don't know tradition with handheld systems. Vita will likely get a redesign as well.

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"]Things Vita has that 3DS does not - -dual analog -multitouch -OLED screen -back touch pad -GPS and 3g (although honestly most will likely skip this model) -An actual respectable online infrastructure. -Oh yes, and MOAR POWR!Bigboi500

Why are people jumping to conclusions over a rumour and taking it as fact?Ravensmash

I think that if the second stick rumor is true, it will come as a whole new version, like 3DS Lite.

[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]Yeah, but I look at games that interest me, not games that are graphically superior. Look at Minecraft.Vyse_Legends

Sorry had tasay it.:P

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"]Things Vita has that 3DS does not - -dual analog -multitouch -OLED screen -back touch pad -GPS and 3g (although honestly most will likely skip this model) -An actual respectable online infrastructure. -Oh yes, and MOAR POWR!Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"]Things Vita has that 3DS does not - -dual analog -multitouch -OLED screen -back touch pad -GPS and 3g (although honestly most will likely skip this model) -An actual respectable online infrastructure. -Oh yes, and MOAR POWR!windsquid9000

I'm usually a one-handheld per generation guy, but if Vita can get the games I like I'll get it too...as long as they're not too similar to PS3. The reason I didn't get a PSP is because I already had most of its popular games on PS2 already.

Cant believe any1 would make a topic brag over 3DS 3hours battery life :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lITBGjNEp08&feature=related

Cant believe any1 would make a topic brag over 3DS 3hours battery life :lol:

aroxx_ab

The 3DS isn't getting a second stick.OreoMilkshake

Nope! The PS Vita has better graphics and better controls. Nint always pours out the shovelware with all it's systems. Do you want better hardware and graphics or more shovelware?

[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]The 3DS isn't getting a second stick.clr84651

Nope! The PS Vita has better graphics and better controls. Nint always pours out the shovelware with all it's systems. Do you want better hardware and graphics or more shovelware?

I'll take the former.

[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]The 3DS isn't getting a second stick.clr84651

Nope! The PS Vita has better graphics and better controls. Nint always pours out the shovelware with all it's systems. Do you want better hardware and graphics or more shovelware?

You don't really believe that Nintendo is the one developing the shovelware, do you?

Bigboi500

In certain cases? Absolutely yes.

Oh its much more than graphics my friend. The fact that you can connect it to the PSN account you already have is a gigantic reason. Also the games it has coming are better imho.

And the Vita fanboys swoop in...

Honestly, it's hard to judge based on a rumour.

3DS is not getting a second analog

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

You don't really believe that Nintendo is the one developing the shovelware, do you?

Aidenfury19

In certain cases? Absolutely yes.

The design of the Vita sounds great, but they need to announce more non-PS franchise games for it before I'll be interested in it.

Since a second stick is being added 3DS will once again have the upper hand. It will have more games on offer, it will be more affordable and most importantly it will probably have the better battery life again (since PS3 power must rape the battery).

Since Nintendo are being nice enough to give sticks as add ons to existing systems the factor a lot of these Vita fanboys argued against 3DS is probably now going to be redundant. Provided these rumours are true that is.

icegamerice

Kudos on killing your own arguements.

[QUOTE="icegamerice"]

Since a second stick is being added 3DS will once again have the upper hand. It will have more games on offer, it will be more affordable and most importantly it will probably have the better battery life again (since PS3 power must rape the battery).

Since Nintendo are being nice enough to give sticks as add ons to existing systems the factor a lot of these Vita fanboys argued against 3DS is probably now going to be redundant. Provided these rumours are true that is.

razgriz_101

Kudos on killing your own arguements.

You forgot vita has 3G , actual LAUNCH GAMES , cross game chat etcDante_May_Die

[QUOTE="DARKNESSxEAGLE"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

Wait you think nintendo is competent enough and in touch with gamers enough to add something as expected as a second analog stick to their handheld?

minh800

And then I remembered: I was in system wars

but yeah... 3ds isn't getting a second analog stick, because if not for left-handed gamers, it would be pointless.

If you think that it would be pointless, you never played on the PSP.

I own a PSP.... but the thumb-pad is by far superior to that 'thing' that the PSP had, plus the touch screen pretty much substitutes for a second analog stick/pad.

I guess you never played a DS. Or at least, the games that everyone had (I'm referring mainly to Metroid Prime: Hunters)

[QUOTE="minh800"]

[QUOTE="DARKNESSxEAGLE"]

And then I remembered: I was in system wars

but yeah... 3ds isn't getting a second analog stick, because if not for left-handed gamers, it would be pointless.

DARKNESSxEAGLE

If you think that it would be pointless, you never played on the PSP.

I own a PSP.... but the thumb-pad is by far superior to that 'thing' that the PSP had, plus the touch screen pretty much substitutes for a second analog stick/pad.

I guess you never played a DS. Or at least, the games that everyone had (I'm referring mainly to Metroid Prime: Hunters)

I own a DS and would never touch a FPS on it. As previewers have stated with Kid Icarus, the touch screen isn't the best solution. I'd rather have dual analog controls and access to buttons. And the touchscreen is no solution for games like Monster Hunter.

[QUOTE="DARKNESSxEAGLE"][QUOTE="minh800"]

If you think that it would be pointless, you never played on the PSP.

minh800

I own a PSP.... but the thumb-pad is by far superior to that 'thing' that the PSP had, plus the touch screen pretty much substitutes for a second analog stick/pad.

I guess you never played a DS. Or at least, the games that everyone had (I'm referring mainly to Metroid Prime: Hunters)

I own a DS and would never touch a FPS on it. As previewers have stated with Kid Icarus, the touch screen isn't the best solution. I'd rather have dual analog controls and access to buttons. And the touchscreen is no solution for games like Monster Hunter.

[QUOTE="DARKNESSxEAGLE"][QUOTE="minh800"]

If you think that it would be pointless, you never played on the PSP.

minh800

I own a PSP.... but the thumb-pad is by far superior to that 'thing' that the PSP had, plus the touch screen pretty much substitutes for a second analog stick/pad.

I guess you never played a DS. Or at least, the games that everyone had (I'm referring mainly to Metroid Prime: Hunters)

I own a DS and would never touch a FPS on it. As previewers have stated with Kid Icarus, the touch screen isn't the best solution. I'd rather have dual analog controls and access to buttons. And the touchscreen is no solution for games like Monster Hunter.

Kid Icarus is a third-person shooter that hasn't got the controls right, and they probably won't fix it before release either (damn them). But SM64DS shows how easy camera is to do without a second thumb stick/pad. It's not the fault of the hardware, but the developers themselves trying to do things the wrong way. Other than that, Metroid Prime Hunter, Moon and Dementium all feel fluid (at least aiming does anyway) with the touch screen so there is no preblem there. Think of it this way, there was only one thumb-stick on the N64 and there's only one on the wii, not to mention the fact that there were none on either the DS or the (S)NES and all of them have been fairly successful regardless.

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

Cant believe any1 would make a topic brag over 3DS 3hours battery life :lol:

bbkkristian

I dont know, maybe because it is 4-6months left before it is released? However if only 3-4hrs i would not brag over the battery time that is for sure.

Since a second stick is being added 3DS will once again have the upper hand. It will have more games on offer, it will be more affordable and most importantly it will probably have the better battery life again (since PS3 power must rape the battery).

Since Nintendo are being nice enough to give sticks as add ons to existing systems the factor a lot of these Vita fanboys argued against 3DS is probably now going to be redundant. Provided these rumours are true that is.

icegamerice

That def falls in the category of opinion.

[QUOTE="minh800"]

[QUOTE="DARKNESSxEAGLE"]

I own a PSP.... but the thumb-pad is by far superior to that 'thing' that the PSP had, plus the touch screen pretty much substitutes for a second analog stick/pad.

I guess you never played a DS. Or at least, the games that everyone had (I'm referring mainly to Metroid Prime: Hunters)

DARKNESSxEAGLE

I own a DS and would never touch a FPS on it. As previewers have stated with Kid Icarus, the touch screen isn't the best solution. I'd rather have dual analog controls and access to buttons. And the touchscreen is no solution for games like Monster Hunter.

Kid Icarus is a third-person shooter that hasn't got the controls right, and they probably won't fix it before release either (damn them). But SM64DS shows how easy camera is to do without a second thumb stick/pad. It's not the fault of the hardware, but the developers themselves trying to do things the wrong way. Other than that, Metroid Prime Hunter, Moon and Dementium all feel fluid (at least aiming does anyway) with the touch screen so there is no preblem there. Think of it this way, there was only one thumb-stick on the N64 and there's only one on the wii, not to mention the fact that there were none on either the DS or the (S)NES and all of them have been fairly successful regardless.

Doesn't Prime Hunter use the same control scheme as Uprising? Yeah, one stick didn't work so well on the Wii which is why I used the classic controller when I could.