So they delayed Crysis because they knew it can't compete with Reach

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#1 IAMSERIAL
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...or even GT5. How interesting. It's so interesting how the company kept talking the big talk and kind of bashing Reach in the process and yet they didn't have the balls to release in the same quarter. Don't get me wrong, I am disappointed that it's been delayed, but I find it hilarious that they chickened out like that. Oh yeah even the new Call of Duty is releasing this year which is even more competition they didn't want to face.
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yeah it's pretty laughable what they did i agree with you.
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#4 AtariKidX
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I don't agree.....they just need more time to finish the game.
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#5 mystervj
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They are also competing with MoH which is another EA game, I doubt anyone is going to avoid Reach like they did with MW2 last year.
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#6 HavocV3
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who knows.

a couple figureheads at Crytek were really talking the game up for those 2-3 weeks months back.

If the delay was because of the competition. (namely Blacks OPs, follow by Halo Reach) then that's all EA and their money-grubbing habits, not Crytek.

in reality, it's probably playing it smart. I'd bet EA put a lot of money down to publish it on 3 platforms with a lot of optimization for all versions.

that's my theory/two cents, whatever.

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#7 jg4xchamp
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I am 99% sure it was to tighten up the game. Personally I'd be willing to bet on Crysis 2, considering atleast the original was a more progressive shooter in design. Halo Reach as good as it looks. Is still freakin Halo. All be it one that seems to be clearing out alot of the flaws the series has had.
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#8 General_X
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Well they're trying to put an unproven franchise on consoles versus a game that will sell millions based on the name alone. Crysis 2 could be the best thing since sliced bread but Crytek isn't stupid enough to think that they'll be able to generate as much hype as the MS marketing machine.
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#9 Racial_Slur
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Well they're trying to put an unproven franchise on consoles versus a game that will sell millions based on the name alone. Crysis 2 could be the best thing since sliced bread but Crytek isn't stupid enough to think that they'll be able to generate as much hype as the MS marketing machine.General_X
$200,000,000 was spent on Halo 3's advertizing alone.
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#10 AnaleFaust
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Well they're trying to put an unproven franchise on consoles versus a game that will sell millions based on the name alone. Crysis 2 could be the best thing since sliced bread but Crytek isn't stupid enough to think that they'll be able to generate as much hype as the MS marketing machine.General_X

/thread. :lol:

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#13 JordanizPro
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I thought they delayed Crysis 2 because they needed more time with the console versions.I heard they were having a hard time making sure the CE3 engine ran great on both PS3 and 360.

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May I have a ling confirming what you are saying? I am going to go ahead a guess you do not have one.
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#15 TheShadowLord07
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Well they're trying to put an unproven franchise on consoles versus a game that will sell millions based on the name alone. Crysis 2 could be the best thing since sliced bread but Crytek isn't stupid enough to think that they'll be able to generate as much hype as the MS marketing machine.General_X
are you saying crysis 2 will better than slice bread. slice bread is the best invention in man kind. even god is jealous that man creat slice bread first.

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#16 Fireboy78
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Gotta admit, I'm glad that they delayed it because I have seen in E3, their Al is very horrible. I hope they would fix that Al problem then Crysis 2 would be more enjoyable.

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#17 FastEddie2121
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Its a good business move. Sure it makes the crysis folks look a bit silly with all the smack talk, but they want to make $$ and going up against HReach would be folly.
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#18 General_X
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[QUOTE="General_X"]Well they're trying to put an unproven franchise on consoles versus a game that will sell millions based on the name alone. Crysis 2 could be the best thing since sliced bread but Crytek isn't stupid enough to think that they'll be able to generate as much hype as the MS marketing machine.TheShadowLord07

are you saying crysis 2 will better than slice bread. slice bread is the best invention in man kind. even god is jealous that man creat slice bread first.

Its an old saying, not necessarily an accurate one :roll:
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#19 TheShadowLord07
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[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

[QUOTE="General_X"]Well they're trying to put an unproven franchise on consoles versus a game that will sell millions based on the name alone. Crysis 2 could be the best thing since sliced bread but Crytek isn't stupid enough to think that they'll be able to generate as much hype as the MS marketing machine.General_X

are you saying crysis 2 will better than slice bread. slice bread is the best invention in man kind. even god is jealous that man creat slice bread first.

Its an old saying, not necessarily an accurate one :roll:

I know just having some fun:P

did you really thought i was serious?

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#20 TacticalDesire
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I suppose it is a bit funny, and I am looking forward to Crysis 2, but its true this holiday season is so chock full of games. In the FPS genre and outside it there is tons of competition...quite frankly I think more than last year. This year you've got Halo: Reach, Fallout:New Vegas, MoH, Black Ops...and then in other genres, GT5, LBP2, Fable III, Assassin's Creed Brotherhood...list goes on and on.

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#21 AnaleFaust
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Its a good business move. Sure it makes the crysis folks look a bit silly with all the smack talk, but they want to make $$ and going up against HReach would be folly.FastEddie2121

Can you link me to this smack talk? I only thought it was the writer expressing his opinions on certain games storys, and he was pretty accurate.

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#22 General_X
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[QUOTE="General_X"][QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"] are you saying crysis 2 will better than slice bread. slice bread is the best invention in man kind. even god is jealous that man creat slice bread first.

TheShadowLord07

Its an old saying, not necessarily an accurate one :roll:

I know just having some fun:P

did you really thought i was serious?

I've seen much more ignorant things being said in 100% seriousness, so its incredibly hard to tell in SW :P
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#23 AnaleFaust
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Alot of consolites will be making fun of Crytek because they were previously a PC only dev. :roll:

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#24 mo0ksi
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I'd say it's a smart move. Why release the game when there's going to be a load of competition? It would likely under-perform in sales since it's a new IP for consoles.

And that's considering that they delayed it for that reason. They likely delayed it to make improvements.

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Reach and COD. It's interesting, but financially, it wouldn't make much sense to put that game up against those two HUGE titles. I'm even shocked Medal of Honor is coming out this fall.
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That is why they released Crysis before Halo 3 and it was the better game...only reason it is delayed is because they are putting it on consoles and want to get it right since its the first time.

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Well they're trying to put an unproven franchise on consoles versus a game that will sell millions based on the name alone. Crysis 2 could be the best thing since sliced bread but Crytek isn't stupid enough to think that they'll be able to generate as much hype as the MS marketing machine.General_X
I think thats a very good point. Halo was a great game. It had (and arguably continues) raised the bar for FPS games. I am probably exaggerating when I say this, but the original Halo game is the major reason as why the console was so popular when it was first released. Crysis is different. People who have played Crysis will say Crysis is worth playing. I haven't played Crysis, and most people haven't. Why? Because it took the best available computers to run it. Normal computers couldn't. (It took higher system specs than Oblivion does, if I am not mistaken) Yes. It is certainly possible that Crytek delayed Crysis because it couldn't compete with Halo Reach. Its good marketing, because Microsoft has stated that Halo Reach is supposed to be the DEFINITIVE Halo experience, and may not pursue further titles, allowing Crysis 2 to fill up some of that space. It's also definitely possible that the game won't run perfect on both systems, so they delayed it to make the game the best it can be. The last thing you want while competing with a bigger name is a bugged/faulty game
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#28 emperorzhang66
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I think they delayed because they need time to deliver on what so far are false promises.

Like amazing AI - Not from watching the E3 vids.

Best Graphics on all consoles - They probably need more time to polish.

I was looking forward to Crysis 2 but they were being stupid + the fact that they wanted to craft a "Halo Killer" but won't release it at the same time.

Still Gonna buy it. I think they would have done well, since most people i know buying reach are also buying Crysis 2.

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So instead of competing against Reach and Black ops its competing against Killzone 3 and Gears 3. (maybe Resistance 3)

Honestly though they probable just thought they needed more development time.

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#30 Ultizer
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Crytek talk alot of rubbish sometimes

the CEO said crysis was pirated 20 million times

i lol'd

there isnt even 15mil PC"s that can handle Crysis

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...or even GT5. How interesting. It's so interesting how the company kept talking the big talk and kind of bashing Reach in the process and yet they didn't have the balls to release in the same quarter. Don't get me wrong, I am disappointed that it's been delayed, but I find it hilarious that they chickened out like that. Oh yeah even the new Call of Duty is releasing this year which is even more competition they didn't want to face. IAMSERIAL
They cannot compete with Reach on a marketing level if anything. :?

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PS3 and PC owners will not buy games the date halo reach is released :roll:

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#33 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="General_X"]Well they're trying to put an unproven franchise on consoles versus a game that will sell millions based on the name alone. Crysis 2 could be the best thing since sliced bread but Crytek isn't stupid enough to think that they'll be able to generate as much hype as the MS marketing machine.Racial_Slur
$200,000,000 was spent on Halo 3's advertising alone.

Exactly. I find it amusing that the TC is trying to bash the quality of Crysis 2 as opposed to Halo Reach when there are clearly other, more plausible factors to consider.

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#34 ThePRGod
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That is why they released Crysis before Halo 3 and it was the better game...only reason it is delayed is because they are putting it on consoles and want to get it right since its the first time.

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Crysis came out after Halo 3.

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They are a business, they want money and if that means releasing after Reach then they will do it... Simple as that.
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Not surprised i also suspect people to be pointing the finger at reach when the sales bomb for games like GT5
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#37 xsalvioutlawx
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TC is spot on. Anyone who doesn't believe they delayed the game due to games like Reach needs to stop D-Riding crysis 2.

Lol @ they needed more time to finish the game....good excuse.

If I was them I'd delay the game too. People act like they don't care about sales, they're trying to sell AS MANY copies of the game as possible, if that means avoiding competition than that's what they will do.

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wtf is Reach?

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[QUOTE="dercoo"]

So instead of competing against Reach and Black ops its competing against Killzone 3 and Gears 3. (maybe Resistance 3)

Honestly though they probable just thought they needed more development time.

I can honestly see crysis 2 outselling KZ3, but gears 3 not a chance. But gears 3 isnt until may at the least.
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TC is spot on. Anyone who doesn't believe they delayed the game due to games like Reach needs to stop D-Riding crysis 2.

Lol @ they needed more time to finish the game....good excuse.

If I was them I'd delay the game too. People act like they don't care about sales, they're trying to sell AS MANY copies of the game as possible, if that means avoiding competition than that's what they will do.xsalvioutlawx

Even then, it is not about Crysis 2 being a lesser game than Halo Reach, it's about one company having far more marketing power than the other. Regarding the actual quality of both games, I am sure that Crysis 2 can easily compete.

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#41 delta3074
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what some people call being chicken, i call good business sense, it's obvious crysis 2 will lose sales because of reach, this gives them extra time to polish the game and bug test and maximise there sales for crysis 2 on the 360,it's a good strategy.
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[QUOTE="xsalvioutlawx"]TC is spot on. Anyone who doesn't believe they delayed the game due to games like Reach needs to stop D-Riding crysis 2.

Lol @ they needed more time to finish the game....good excuse.

If I was them I'd delay the game too. People act like they don't care about sales, they're trying to sell AS MANY copies of the game as possible, if that means avoiding competition than that's what they will do.Hexagon_777

Even then, it is not about Crysis 2 being a lesser game than Halo Reach, it's about one company having far more marketing power than the other. Regarding the actual quality of both games, I am sure that Crysis 2 can easily compete.

You guys get offended so easily, where in my post did I ever say Reach is a better game than Crysis 2? Nobody can make that judgement...I even said I was disappointed that Crysis 2 is delayed. I don't get where you guys automatically assumed that I think Reach is a better game. Has the world gone mad?
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TC is spot on. Anyone who doesn't believe they delayed the game due to games like Reach needs to stop D-Riding crysis 2.

Lol @ they needed more time to finish the game....good excuse.

If I was them I'd delay the game too. People act like they don't care about sales, they're trying to sell AS MANY copies of the game as possible, if that means avoiding competition than that's what they will do.

xsalvioutlawx
actually they do need more time on the game. I heard on the Crysis forums that the two levels they've shown on E3 are the only levels they've completed so far.
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#44 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="xsalvioutlawx"]TC is spot on. Anyone who doesn't believe they delayed the game due to games like Reach needs to stop D-Riding crysis 2.

Lol @ they needed more time to finish the game....good excuse.

If I was them I'd delay the game too. People act like they don't care about sales, they're trying to sell AS MANY copies of the game as possible, if that means avoiding competition than that's what they will do.IAMSERIAL

Even then, it is not about Crysis 2 being a lesser game than Halo Reach, it's about one company having far more marketing power than the other. Regarding the actual quality of both games, I am sure that Crysis 2 can easily compete.

You guys get offended so easily, where in my post did I ever say Reach is a better game than Crysis 2? Nobody can make that judgement...I even said I was disappointed that Crysis 2 is delayed. I don't get where you guys automatically assumed that I think Reach is a better game. Has the world gone mad?

Um, where did I depict that I am offended? I was just giving a response to clarify. Judging from your rather emotional response, I'd reckon that you are the one who got offended. I do apologise if you felt attacked.

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[QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

Even then, it is not about Crysis 2 being a lesser game than Halo Reach, it's about one company having far more marketing power than the other. Regarding the actual quality of both games, I am sure that Crysis 2 can easily compete.Hexagon_777

You guys get offended so easily, where in my post did I ever say Reach is a better game than Crysis 2? Nobody can make that judgement...I even said I was disappointed that Crysis 2 is delayed. I don't get where you guys automatically assumed that I think Reach is a better game. Has the world gone mad?

Um, where did I depict that I am offended? I was just giving a response to clarify. Judging from your rather emotional response, I'd reckon that you are the one who got offended. I do apologise if you felt attacked.

Judging by your rash thoughts, I'd say you were offended by my thread and assumed that I dislike Crysis 2.
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Have they even come out and said why it was delayed, since I haven't heard anything yet?
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#47 Espada12
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Halo - 360s biggest exclusive

GT5 - PS3s biggest exclusive

Starcraft 2 and WoW cataclysm - Two of the biggest PC exclusives

It's only makes sense to save crysis for next year...

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...or even GT5. How interesting. It's so interesting how the company kept talking the big talk and kind of bashing Reach in the process and yet they didn't have the balls to release in the same quarter. Don't get me wrong, I am disappointed that it's been delayed, but I find it hilarious that they chickened out like that. Oh yeah even the new Call of Duty is releasing this year which is even more competition they didn't want to face. IAMSERIAL
and you are basing this on? oh wait a second...level 2 poster, with a trolling avatar. that was sarcasm btw, you didnt had me for 1 second
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#49 lightleggy
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its sad to see how many people actually think that TC is serious...
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#50 IAMSERIAL
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[QUOTE="IAMSERIAL"]...or even GT5. How interesting. It's so interesting how the company kept talking the big talk and kind of bashing Reach in the process and yet they didn't have the balls to release in the same quarter. Don't get me wrong, I am disappointed that it's been delayed, but I find it hilarious that they chickened out like that. Oh yeah even the new Call of Duty is releasing this year which is even more competition they didn't want to face. lightleggy
and you are basing this on? oh wait a second...level 2 poster, with a trolling avatar. that was sarcasm btw, you didnt had me for 1 second

It's not that hard to understand that Halo would sell more than Crysis. Oh level 19 poster, I guess that means you know about video games more than me. I guess I should bow to you or something.