So two years in, where is the cloud XBO?

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#1 RedentSC
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I still havn't seen any real implementation of "cloud gaming" from MS over the past two years. I'm not talking about "variable AI" or fucking weather effects, i'm talking about real cloud gaming. Entire worlds created in the cloud for gamers to enjoy, hell, even a decent implementation of a cloud compatible game mechanic

Guess it was all just hot air afterall? unless i'm wrong system wars? can you provide examples? I am completely open to being proven wrong here. I genuinely don't know, i don't own an xbox... for pretty obvious reasons.

And so not to be based, lets look at what sony promised and delivered in terms of "cloud gaming"

Playstation Now (yeah Its stupidly expensive and i would never use it but it's there) - Yes

Remote play (yes, as i can remote play via the internet so that's via the cloud) - Yes

Shareplay - Yes (and its actually really fucking good chaps for those who haven't tried it yet)

Like i said i'm open to being proven wrong, no hard feelings and all that.

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#2 SecretPolice
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Crackdown 3, have you seen it? :P

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#3 CinematicGalore
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Microsoft is using it to actually enhance gameplay while Sony is emmm, letting you play videos? Quite fitting actually, giving movie games a different meaning. lol

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#5 RedentSC
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@cinematicgalore said:

Microsoft is using it to actually enhance gameplay while Sony is emmm, letting you play videos? Quite fitting actually, giving movie games a different meaning. lol

play videos? clearly you didn't read any of my post and made a statement based on the title... good plan batman

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#6  Edited By RedentSC
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to all those who are mentioning Crackdown 3? yeah fully destructible environments were being ran on last gen consoles (red faction) 6 years ago

Try harder guys

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#7  Edited By mems_1224
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Forza uses it for Drivetars, i think Titanfall used it for their AI characters, you can stream xbox one games to pc so according to you thats using the cloud, all your saves/videos and screenshots are automatically uploaded to the cloud and unlike the ps4 there doesn't seem to be any issues with hitting a limit, im sure there is other stuff but it doesn't seem like you actually care and are just trying to be a lame troll.

also, you said you wanted entire worlds created in the cloud then dismissed crackdown 3 for...reasons?

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#8 Wickerman777
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I know Crackdown 3 is gonna use it and it looks pretty cool in that game. Bad thing is it seems this is only going to be a thing in multiplayer games.

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#9 KratosYOLOSwag
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Have you seen Titanfall?

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#10  Edited By RedentSC
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@mems_1224: na, streaming games to a pc is not cloud gaming. Remote play VIA THE INTERNET however is.

Crackdown uses the cloud to help it render destruction, not worlds. And limits? What limits do you speak of?

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#11 mems_1224
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@RedentSC said:

@mems_1224: na, streaming games to a pc is not cloud gaming. Remote play VIA THE INTERNET however is.

same thing. also, way to ignore the rest of my post. lazy troll.

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#12  Edited By RedentSC
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@mems_1224: how did I ignore your post? I states in the op little stuff like Ai or weather does not count, and how is LAN streaming the same as WAN streaming?

Can an XBO owner stream their games to any other dives beyond their own network? Didn't think so

I also already responded to your crackdown nonsense

Way not to read the OP lazy forum goblin ;)

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@RedentSC: You ask about the Cloud and everyone already told you the answer, Crackdown 3 is using it to take advantage of the Cloud gaming and this the only game we know for now That will use it.

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#14 RedentSC
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@davillain-: so... the answer is nothing then. Hell I'm writing this on my phone, it's cloud powered! :D

They promised 'entire worlds delivered via the cloud' and the best we have is enhanced destruction. Does that not seem disappointing?

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#15 Flyincloud1116
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Crackdown and nothing more.

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#16 DaVillain  Moderator
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@RedentSC: Well like I said, just Crackdown 3 and that's all there is. There's nothing to talk about the Cloud just yet, no point of mention about it cause nothing's using it. I honestly never care about it, just want to play something good coming out from Xbox One exclusive games and I can tell you now that Crackdown 3 doesn't peak my interest, even if it's using the Cloud to take advantage of the destructible environments.

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@RedentSC said:

@mems_1224: how did I ignore your post? I states in the op little stuff like Ai or weather does not count, and how is LAN streaming the same as WAN streaming?

Can an XBO owner stream their games to any other dives beyond their own network? Didn't think so

I also already responded to your crackdown nonsense

Way not to read the OP lazy forum goblin ;)

"AI" is small stuff?? it has a massive impact on the game...

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#18 RedentSC
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@flyincloud1116: yeah after two years that's astounding. Why ain't the XBO community uo.in arms about this. Another failed promise from a platform holder (Sony has had their fair share of unfulfilled promises too, not this gen but still)

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#19 SecretPolice
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Using the cloud is new tech for this gen consoles and remember, you and your ilk laughed at the thought of it not so many months ago and at this year E3, MS proved it's not smoke and mirrors by wowing the crowd with CD3 but okay, two years in and PS4 is still waiting for what should have been very simple, UC4?

Phony, the one and only? :P

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#20 RedentSC
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@tushar172787: erm.... Its not what MS promised though this is my point

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#21 deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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Crackdown 3

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#22 RedentSC
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@FastRobby: yeah crackdown has already been torn apart matey but thanks for your input. Might wanna read up ;)

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#23 Shewgenja
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While MS tells the XBox fanbase one thing when launching a new product, the reality is a whole other thing.

Now, read as Phil Spencer explains that internet infrastructure isn't mature enough for cloud gaming, yet. Just like I've been telling you shit-for-brains lems since the XBox One was announced.

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#24  Edited By deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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@RedentSC said:

@FastRobby: yeah crackdown has already been torn apart matey but thanks for your input. Might wanna read up ;)

I've read it. It's just wrong.

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@Shewgenja said:

While MS tells the XBox fanbase one thing when launching a new product, the reality is a whole other thing.

Now, read as Phil Spencer explains that internet infrastructure isn't mature enough for cloud gaming, yet. Just like I've been telling you shit-for-brains lems since the XBox One was announced.

that's pretty scathing lol.

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@Shewgenja said:

While MS tells the XBox fanbase one thing when launching a new product, the reality is a whole other thing.

Now, read as Phil Spencer explains that internet infrastructure isn't mature enough for cloud gaming, yet. Just like I've been telling you shit-for-brains lems since the XBox One was announced.

You also get this pissed when someone buys a different TV or car stereo than you do?

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#27  Edited By deactivated-58abb194ab6fb
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You do realize the cloud isn't something you can see right? Some games have been using the cloud in some capacity like Forza games but the 1 game that will use it the most will be Crackdown 3. I think from there is when we'll see a lot more games use it in some way, shape or form.

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#28  Edited By Chutebox  Online
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@mems_1224: did you bring up titanfall? Lol

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#29 mems_1224
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@Chutebox said:

@mems_1224: did you bring up totanfall? Lol

whats wrong with Titanfall? Its one of the best fps games this gen and definitely one of the freshest experiences.

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@mems_1224: I don't agree with that but not the point. The AI just sits there begging and waiting to get shot

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#31 Shewgenja
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@Wickerman777 said:

You also get this pissed when someone buys a different TV or car stereo than you do?

All the time!

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#32 mems_1224
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@mems_1224: I don't agree with that but not the point. The AI just sits there begging and waiting to get shot

And? Its not supposed to be hard. It would defeat the purpose of the game if the AI was getting the most kills.

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#33 Chutebox  Online
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@mems_1224: so much fuss was made of the AI because of the cloud. They'd be in tactical groups, learn, blah blah blah. It was crap

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#34 mems_1224
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@Chutebox said:

@mems_1224: so much fuss was made of the AI because of the cloud. They'd be in tactical groups, learn, blah blah blah. It was crap

that doesnt mean they didnt use the cloud service for their AI.

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#35 Chutebox  Online
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@mems_1224: and if they did? I'm saying could probably have been easily done on console. Which is why not a good example

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@RedentSC said:

@FastRobby: yeah crackdown has already been torn apart matey but thanks for your input. Might wanna read up ;)

yeah they stripped the SP experience out of the game. Shame.

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#37 lostrib
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It's in the cloud. Duh

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#38 360ru13r
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There is your summary of where is the cloud for the xbox one. Plus internet infrastructure isn't good enough to do what they want yet anyway. For those who say but google fiber, just no. It would help but still not enough bandwidth.

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#39 RedentSC
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@FastRobby: okay, can you explain how crackdown is using cloud gaming for more than just destruction (which can be done easily enough without cloud gaming)

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#40 speedfog
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@Shewgenja said:

While MS tells the XBox fanbase one thing when launching a new product, the reality is a whole other thing.

Now, read as Phil Spencer explains that internet infrastructure isn't mature enough for cloud gaming, yet. Just like I've been telling you shit-for-brains lems since the XBox One was announced.

That makes you the immature one. Go insult people somewhere else dude.

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#41 pyro1245
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It's busy doing real work for real customers; running machine learning algorithms and such for programmers.

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/machine-learning/?WT.srch=1&WT.mc_ID=SEM_PjUTan9Q

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@RedentSC said:

@tushar172787: erm.... Its not what MS promised though this is my point

ahh, i get you.

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#43 drummerdave9099
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You're a troll. You ask a "question", get plenty of answers, but none of them are good enough. Should have just called the thread "Xbox cloud is fake" or something

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#44 Ten_Pints
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I find it funny that in over 2 years all Microsoft has to show for the 'cloud' in an unfinished pre alpha demo, then shortly after they buy Havok... I'm assuming they ran into issues and needed some help.

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#45  Edited By oflow
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Both Titanfall and Forza use it for AI and it's a noticable improvement. Crackdown will use it for environments.

No one cares what cows think about something they won't use anyway.

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#46 shellcase86
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Didn't the Titanfall developers say the game was only possible on X1 because of the cloud? So Titanfall 2 will be downgraded on PS4/PS3?

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#47  Edited By kinectthedots
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@mems_1224 said:
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yawn

out now, bigger open world doesn't have PS2 graphics...and more impressive on other systems not called xbone.

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#48 silversix_
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Same could be said about DX12. The answer to both questions is 'PR bullshit'. Don't believe a single word what they're saying

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#50 RedentSC
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@drummerdave9099: I'm asking for opinions and information to.price ns has lived up too their promise. So far you are just proving your fanboy nerd rage