So wait cows have to wait till June 12, 2008 to get their first AAAE/AAAAE

actually a handful of websites agree with gamespot scores

carljohnson3456

I was using Gamespot as an example. I dont care what any site says, including Gamespot. ;)

Gamespot didnt agree with rest of the world that gave Uncharted a 9.0 did it? What did they give it? A 8.0?

It doesnt matter, I dont let any site tell me what game is good or bad.

rest of the world? uncharted is AA at metacritic and GR

lets see who else didnt give it an AAA rating:

gamepro

egm

1up

Game informer

playstation official magazine

i guess your conspiracy is false, nice try though

Ok, you obviously missed my entire point - I dont care what rank a game gets as long as it appeals to me.

Besides, the critic score of Uncharted is 9.0, that's where my "conspiracy" came from. Check it on the Uncharted review page.

so you dont care about scores, but you use them to prove your point. interesting...

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

You're absolutely right, but can you imagine if MGS4 get an 8.5 here, the cow population would be extinct due to account suicides and shame.

carljohnson3456

I can completely see it getting an 8.5 here, lol.

I hope not, because there wouldn't be any cows left to bash me for my arguments, that would be no fun. Gimme a 9.0 or above for mGS4!

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

Why is it when people say the PS3 has the fourth best lineup of games if you count PC what fans hear is "youz gottz no good gamezzzz haha!"

To fans it will never matter that the PS3 is last in game quality, if they like it it's best to them and tbo I agree with that.

It may be an insane way to have an argument but really what's the difference it's just a forum.

Mau-Justice

So it's last in game quality, but you still love it? Why?

[QUOTE="Mau-Justice"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]Nah, You forget that not everyone follows Gamespot scores, so for me the first AAAE was at launch with Resistance Fall Of Mancarljohnson3456

Well even GR says its not AAA...so who do you follow? Certainly not the average opinion of the entire review industry.

Who does he follow?

Uh, maybe his own opinion?

Wow, is that why you tolerate $50 a year fee, terrible hardware, and over priced accessories - because you "follow"?

At first you were being fair, now you're turning fanboy. 50$ a year is well worth not having a crap network like PSN. RROD has been beaten to death by cows, almost 2 years now and I'm on my first 360. Overpriced accessories, well definitely, but people are paying it for a reason right?

I just go where the games are, because I'm a gamer. Right now it's Xbox, price isn't the best of arguments. Go argue cost to PC gamers.

And Resistance wasn't as good as people make it sound, the game was decent...I wasn't a fan of it at all though.

You're right, and I should have used a more rational argument. I go where the games are too, and I do own a 360, but it's turned me off with it's RROD and overpriced fees. The fees probably wouldnt bother me if the system was more solid, but I dont have that kind of cash to freely spend on something I have to worry about breaking. My experince doesnt speak for everyone's, so I apologize. I love the 360 for what it should be, but hate it for it's been to me.

Definitely. Don't worry I don't take offense to things. I try to be as unbias as possible, I own all 3 consoles and they still label me fanboy because I say Console A is outdoing Console B for the moment.

I like my PS3, I just wish it saw more gaming action. That's partially my fault for buying most of the Multiplats for 360, but still I want exclusives...

I'm not denying RROD, it does happen, it even happened to people I know, maybe I'm just a lucky one. Fair enough though, I get fueled by the lems/cows sometimes too.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

actually a handful of websites agree with gamespot scores

ogvampire

I was using Gamespot as an example. I dont care what any site says, including Gamespot. ;)

Gamespot didnt agree with rest of the world that gave Uncharted a 9.0 did it? What did they give it? A 8.0?

It doesnt matter, I dont let any site tell me what game is good or bad.

rest of the world? uncharted is AA at metacritic and GR

lets see who else didnt give it an AAA rating:

gamepro

egm

1up

Game informer

playstation official magazine

i guess your conspiracy is false, nice try though

Ok, you obviously missed my entire point - I dont care what rank a game gets as long as it appeals to me.

Besides, the critic score of Uncharted is 9.0, that's where my "conspiracy" came from. Check it on the Uncharted review page.

so you dont care about scores, but you use them to prove your point. interesting...

I clearly said, "it doesnt matter" right after that if you read my first post referring to the scores, I was trying to use your logic so maybe you'd understand if you're going to let websites decide what you play, then maybe Gamespot isnt the only site you should accept the "facts" from.

[QUOTE="Mau-Justice"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

Why is it when people say the PS3 has the fourth best lineup of games if you count PC what fans hear is "youz gottz no good gamezzzz haha!"

To fans it will never matter that the PS3 is last in game quality, if they like it it's best to them and tbo I agree with that.

It may be an insane way to have an argument but really what's the difference it's just a forum.

Riverwolf007

So it's last in game quality, but you still love it? Why?

I'm in the same exact boat. I'm mad at my PS3, but if I honestly hated it, why would I have ever purchased one? FF13 is enough of a reason for me to keep it around. I'm giving it a fair chance...

Getting tired of Delay after Delay, and being completely lied to. Sony always used these cheap tactics though, remember the Rumor of the PS2 is what ended the Dreamcast, and PS2 didn't come out until 2 years after they said it would. They just said it to stop people from buying Dreamcast.

[QUOTE="Mau-Justice"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

Why is it when people say the PS3 has the fourth best lineup of games if you count PC what fans hear is "youz gottz no good gamezzzz haha!"

To fans it will never matter that the PS3 is last in game quality, if they like it it's best to them and tbo I agree with that.

It may be an insane way to have an argument but really what's the difference it's just a forum.

u8muhrice

So it's last in game quality, but you still love it? Why?

last time I checked, the PS3 is not last in game quality. Does it have AAAEs at the moment? Nope. But it sure has more quality games than the Wii. If you check my topic posts earlier on, I did an average of total scores (of Gamespot reviews) of the Wii vs PS3 and guess who had more quality games, PS3

I like the PS3 lineup more than the Wii line up too but come-on the GOTY is trumped by a higher number of above average titles?

(now all this is of course just going by reviews and not what people personally like better, I would say the PS3 lineup is better but on paper the Wii has exclusives that make up for there not being as many.)

(it's just wierd here because if you go by the SW rules the PS3 is mos def fourth and what's the point of hanging out here and arguing our stupid arguments if you are just going to ignore the rules about what counts for what here?)

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"][QUOTE="Mau-Justice"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

Why is it when people say the PS3 has the fourth best lineup of games if you count PC what fans hear is "youz gottz no good gamezzzz haha!"

To fans it will never matter that the PS3 is last in game quality, if they like it it's best to them and tbo I agree with that.

It may be an insane way to have an argument but really what's the difference it's just a forum.

Mau-Justice

So it's last in game quality, but you still love it? Why?

I'm in the same exact boat. I'm mad at my PS3, but if I honestly hated it, why would I have ever purchased one? FF13 is enough of a reason for me to keep it around. I'm giving it a fair chance...

Getting tired of Delay after Delay, and being completely lied to. Sony always used these cheap tactics though, remember the Rumor of the PS2 is what ended the Dreamcast, and PS2 didn't come out until 2 years after they said it would. They just said it to stop people from buying Dreamcast.

Lol, now I'm curious about what the ammy prices are like today.

MGS4 is gauranteed AAA, just look at past games..they all were AAAExclusive.Pro_wrestler

i think only one of them was AAAE.. but all of them were great nevertheless

i guess your conspiracy is false, nice try though

carljohnson3456

Ok, you obviously missed my entire point - I dont care what rank a game gets as long as it appeals to me.

Besides, the critic score of Uncharted is 9.0, that's where my "conspiracy" came from. Check it on the Uncharted review page.

so you dont care about scores, but you use them to prove your point. interesting...

I clearly said, "it doesnt matter" right after that if you read my first post referring to the scores, I was trying to use your logic so maybe you'd understand if you're going to let websites decide what you play, then maybe Gamespot isnt the only site you should accept the "facts" from.

you make it sound like someone is a fool for listening to other people who have played alot of games and are just giving their insight on which games are good or not. if they give a game i want to play a bad score, i will still play that game. i just want to know what other people think first.

so when you go to these forums and try to claim that uncharted is an awesome game and should be AAA, that doesnt matter because its just your opinion. the argument would go on in circles for quite a while, thats why we use scores, to help end these arguments. so if somebody says that the ps3 has no AAA's, dont come in here claiming they do based on YOUR opinion, when the person making the statement was obviously using the reviewers scores for his case. i thought that would be obvious

[QUOTE="hairy_bubblegum"]MGS4 will be the first AAAAE of this gen and help sell truckloads of PS3s. Buh Bye 360. You're dismissed.ParadiddleFill

haha cute some people think it will get a 10

GTA4 got a 10 and Kojima is a genius

[QUOTE="armymen4"][QUOTE="Mau-Justice"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

[QUOTE="hairy_bubblegum"]MGS4 will be the first AAAAE of this gen and help sell truckloads of PS3s. Buh Bye 360. You're dismissed.Mau-Justice

haha cute some people think it will get a 10

Yea I love when they post stuff like, June 12th = the end of Microsoft!!!!

Do they realize Ninja Gaiden is out June 3rd?

dude I am not saying this out of biasness, I am saying this hopefully from the heart of every true gamer: NG2 WILL NEVER...I dont care what anyone says.....NG2 WILL NEVER......EVER COME ANYWHERE NEAR MGS4. This is a much more important game that NG2.

Giving you a heads up, I'm putting that in my sig when Sales/Reviews come out.

comming from a fanboy with only a 360 gamercard, what does that mean to me? Thats like someone bashing halo, who knows nothing about it. its not fanboyism dude, MGS4 is not perfect, but I promise you it is PRIME, and has every bit of the criteria required for a 10 score.

Hmm, tempting, the new 60 gig is still $750 and not counting the broken PS3 with no cables or controller that has the DRE that's currently listed the cheapest used today is. $539.99

Lol, So much for nobody wants backwards compatibility.

comming from a fanboy with only a 360 gamercard, what does that mean to me? Thats like someone bashing halo, who knows nothing about it. its not fanboyism dude, MGS4 is not perfect, but I promise you it is PRIME, and has every bit of the criteria required for a 10 score.

armymen4

And some pictures of Boxart in your sig verifys you?

I'm an old school gamer, Ninja Gaiden is one of my favorite series next to Castlevania's/Metroid's etc. My personal taste of NG over MGS makes me a fanboy?

You're the one predicting with the blatant fanboy comments.

Also you're saying I'm not a true gamer because I like Ninja Gaiden over Metal Gear Solid? You need to go back to the drawing board. How can you say it's prime to get a 10, Have you played the game yet? Didn't think so fanboy. Cows...sigh.

[QUOTE="m_machine024"][QUOTE="EPaul"]I guess games that score 9.0 and above on gamespot are the only amazing games availableEPaul

Damn. * goes to throw away 90% of my game collection*

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

[QUOTE="hairy_bubblegum"]MGS4 will be the first AAAAE of this gen and help sell truckloads of PS3s. Buh Bye 360. You're dismissed.Nonstop-Madness

haha cute some people think it will get a 10

GTA4 got a 10 and Kojima is a genius

Exactly. GTA4 got a 10 with technical flaws. MGS4 (based on MGS 1 thru 3) will be technically flawless and a masterpiece that'll set the bar for games for the next decade. Move over GTA4, MGS4 is here to take the "Game of the Generation" award.

Hmm, tempting, the new 60 gig is still $750 and not counting the broken PS3 with no cables or controller that has the DRE that's currently listed the cheapest used today is. $539.99

Lol, So much for nobody wants backwards compatibility.

Riverwolf007

Yea man, you can get a lot for it. You better do it soon if you are going to, the MGS bundle is going to put more BC PS3's on the market which will hurt the value of yours. Not advising you to sell it though, BC is sweet, took me a while to get mine.

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]MGS4 is gauranteed AAA, just look at past games..they all were AAAExclusive.u8muhrice

i think only one of them was AAAE.. but all of them were great nevertheless

Which is why it will be AAA!

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

[QUOTE="hairy_bubblegum"]MGS4 will be the first AAAAE of this gen and help sell truckloads of PS3s. Buh Bye 360. You're dismissed.hairy_bubblegum

haha cute some people think it will get a 10

GTA4 got a 10 and Kojima is a genius

Exactly. GTA4 got a 10 with technical flaws. MGS4 (based on MGS 1 thru 3) will be technically flawless and a masterpiece that'll set the bar for games for the next decade. Move over GTA4, MGS4 is here to take the "Game of the Generation" award.

GTA got a sympathy 10. It didn't get a real 10. The reviewers felt all nostalgic and wanted it to be the fairy tale ending of Rockstar. If the EA bs wasn't happening, GTA wouldn't have gotten a 10. That's just my prediction for it, no game will be getting a 10 for a while.

[QUOTE="hairy_bubblegum"]

Exactly. GTA4 got a 10 with technical flaws. MGS4 (based on MGS 1 thru 3) will be technically flawless and a masterpiece that'll set the bar for games for the next decade. Move over GTA4, MGS4 is here to take the "Game of the Generation" award.

Mau-Justice

GTA got a sympathy 10. It didn't get a real 10. The reviewers felt all nostalgic and wanted it to be the fairy tale ending of Rockstar. If the EA bs wasn't happening, GTA wouldn't have gotten a 10. That's just my prediction for it, no game will be getting a 10 for a while.

Using that logic then, wouldn't MGS4 get the "sympathy 10" because it will be the last chapter in the MGS saga? Whatever, either way MGS4 will EARN its 10. Kojima & MGS4 FTW!

[QUOTE="AC-360"]

I guess I'm a "cow" but I've playing very quality games before MGS4 and I will continue after it.

Gamespot =/= gospel. I don't care what ya say.

jg4xchamp

uncharted is AAA on gamerankings

[QUOTE="AC-360"]

I guess I'm a "cow" but I've playing very quality games before MGS4 and I will continue after it.

Gamespot =/= gospel. I don't care what ya say.

VendettaRed07

theres no such thing as a cow whos also a halo fan

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="AC-360"]

I guess I'm a "cow" but I've playing very quality games before MGS4 and I will continue after it.

Gamespot =/= gospel. I don't care what ya say.

mistervengeance

uncharted is AAA on gamerankings

only because they rounded up

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"][QUOTE="AC-360"]

I guess I'm a "cow" but I've playing very quality games before MGS4 and I will continue after it.

Gamespot =/= gospel. I don't care what ya say.

AC-360

theres no such thing as a cow whos also a halo fan

That's pretty damn funny. He's living proof too. killzone + Halo3.

[QUOTE="mistervengeance"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="AC-360"]

I guess I'm a "cow" but I've playing very quality games before MGS4 and I will continue after it.

Gamespot =/= gospel. I don't care what ya say.

ogvampire

uncharted is AAA on gamerankings

only because they rounded up

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="mistervengeance"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="AC-360"]

I guess I'm a "cow" but I've playing very quality games before MGS4 and I will continue after it.

Gamespot =/= gospel. I don't care what ya say.

AgentA-Mi6

uncharted is AAA on gamerankings

only because they rounded up

well, no. it wouldnt be "AAA either way" if they didnt round up. but i do agree with you, i was only able to play the demo, but it is a fun game.

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

[QUOTE="hairy_bubblegum"]MGS4 will be the first AAAAE of this gen and help sell truckloads of PS3s. Buh Bye 360. You're dismissed.Mau-Justice

haha cute some people think it will get a 10

Yea I love when they post stuff like, June 12th = the end of Microsoft!!!!

Do they realize Ninja Gaiden is out June 3rd?

NGS was so popular on PS3,,,, nay. Nobodys really jealous of that game, sorry

you make it sound like someone is a fool for listening to other people who have played alot of games and are just giving their insight on which games are good or not. if they give a game i want to play a bad score, i will still play that game. i just want to know what other people think first.

so when you go to these forums and try to claim that uncharted is an awesome game and should be AAA, that doesnt matter because its just your opinion. the argument would go on in circles for quite a while, thats why we use scores, to help end these arguments. so if somebody says that the ps3 has no AAA's, dont come in here claiming they do based on YOUR opinion, when the person making the statement was obviously using the reviewers scores for his case. i thought that would be obvious

ogvampire

I'm not trying to make you sound like a fool for listening to these guys playing these games and giving their thoughts, I'm simply saying I make up my opinion of a game when I play it.

I never said Uncharted should be AAA, I dont know where you got that at. All I said was I enjoyed Uncharted, Warhawk, etc - the fact the PS3 might get a "AAAE" on June 12, 2008 means nothing to me because I've enjoyed games on my PS3 all the way up until now.

I never claimed the PS3 has any AAA's, so I dont know what point you're trying to make there... all I said is I've enjoyed plenty of great games on the PS3 before MGS4. I thought that would be obvious.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]you make it sound like someone is a fool for listening to other people who have played alot of games and are just giving their insight on which games are good or not. if they give a game i want to play a bad score, i will still play that game. i just want to know what other people think first.

so when you go to these forums and try to claim that uncharted is an awesome game and should be AAA, that doesnt matter because its just your opinion. the argument would go on in circles for quite a while, thats why we use scores, to help end these arguments. so if somebody says that the ps3 has no AAA's, dont come in here claiming they do based on YOUR opinion, when the person making the statement was obviously using the reviewers scores for his case. i thought that would be obvious

carljohnson3456

I'm not trying to make you sound like a fool for listening to these guys playing these games and giving their thoughts, I'm simply saying I make up my opinion of a game when I play it.

I never said Uncharted should be AAA, I dont know where you got that at. It is my opinion, which is more important to me than Gamespots. All I said was I enjoyed Uncharted, Warhawk, etc - the fact the PS3 might get a "AAAE" on June 12, 2008 means nothing to me because I've enjoyed games on my PS3 all the way up until now.

I never claimed the PS3 has any AAA's, so I dont know what point you're trying to make there... all I said is I've enjoyed plenty of great games on the PS3 before MGS4. I thought that would be obvious.

you pretty much said that.

a 9.0 = AAA.

so you were wondering why uncharted didnt get AAA (9.0) from gamespot like the other sites. i dont know if you realize it, but thats basically what you were saying.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]you make it sound like someone is a fool for listening to other people who have played alot of games and are just giving their insight on which games are good or not. if they give a game i want to play a bad score, i will still play that game. i just want to know what other people think first.

so when you go to these forums and try to claim that uncharted is an awesome game and should be AAA, that doesnt matter because its just your opinion. the argument would go on in circles for quite a while, thats why we use scores, to help end these arguments. so if somebody says that the ps3 has no AAA's, dont come in here claiming they do based on YOUR opinion, when the person making the statement was obviously using the reviewers scores for his case. i thought that would be obvious

ogvampire

I'm not trying to make you sound like a fool for listening to these guys playing these games and giving their thoughts, I'm simply saying I make up my opinion of a game when I play it.

I never said Uncharted should be AAA, I dont know where you got that at. It is my opinion, which is more important to me than Gamespots. All I said was I enjoyed Uncharted, Warhawk, etc - the fact the PS3 might get a "AAAE" on June 12, 2008 means nothing to me because I've enjoyed games on my PS3 all the way up until now.

I never claimed the PS3 has any AAA's, so I dont know what point you're trying to make there... all I said is I've enjoyed plenty of great games on the PS3 before MGS4. I thought that would be obvious.

you pretty much said that.

a 9.0 = AAA.

so you were wondering why uncharted didnt get AAA (9.0) from gamespot like the other sites. i dont know if you realize it, but thats basically what you were saying.

No, I implied if you're going to hold Gamespot's scores to be high and mighty, you might as include everyone else's. The critic score on the GS review page of Uncharted was 9.0, that's what I said.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]you make it sound like someone is a fool for listening to other people who have played alot of games and are just giving their insight on which games are good or not. if they give a game i want to play a bad score, i will still play that game. i just want to know what other people think first.

so when you go to these forums and try to claim that uncharted is an awesome game and should be AAA, that doesnt matter because its just your opinion. the argument would go on in circles for quite a while, thats why we use scores, to help end these arguments. so if somebody says that the ps3 has no AAA's, dont come in here claiming they do based on YOUR opinion, when the person making the statement was obviously using the reviewers scores for his case. i thought that would be obvious

carljohnson3456

I'm not trying to make you sound like a fool for listening to these guys playing these games and giving their thoughts, I'm simply saying I make up my opinion of a game when I play it.

I never said Uncharted should be AAA, I dont know where you got that at. It is my opinion, which is more important to me than Gamespots. All I said was I enjoyed Uncharted, Warhawk, etc - the fact the PS3 might get a "AAAE" on June 12, 2008 means nothing to me because I've enjoyed games on my PS3 all the way up until now.

I never claimed the PS3 has any AAA's, so I dont know what point you're trying to make there... all I said is I've enjoyed plenty of great games on the PS3 before MGS4. I thought that would be obvious.

you pretty much said that.

a 9.0 = AAA.

so you were wondering why uncharted didnt get AAA (9.0) from gamespot like the other sites. i dont know if you realize it, but thats basically what you were saying.

No, I implied if you're going to hold Gamespot's scores to be high and mighty, you might as include everyone else's. The critic score on the GS review page of Uncharted was 9.0, that's what I said.

its 9.0 on GS critic scores because they go by .5 increments. so Gamespot rounded it up.

check metacritic and GR (for some reason GR rounds up scores) its not AAA and there is no conspiracy

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]you make it sound like someone is a fool for listening to other people who have played alot of games and are just giving their insight on which games are good or not. if they give a game i want to play a bad score, i will still play that game. i just want to know what other people think first.

so when you go to these forums and try to claim that uncharted is an awesome game and should be AAA, that doesnt matter because its just your opinion. the argument would go on in circles for quite a while, thats why we use scores, to help end these arguments. so if somebody says that the ps3 has no AAA's, dont come in here claiming they do based on YOUR opinion, when the person making the statement was obviously using the reviewers scores for his case. i thought that would be obvious

ogvampire

I'm not trying to make you sound like a fool for listening to these guys playing these games and giving their thoughts, I'm simply saying I make up my opinion of a game when I play it.

I never said Uncharted should be AAA, I dont know where you got that at. It is my opinion, which is more important to me than Gamespots. All I said was I enjoyed Uncharted, Warhawk, etc - the fact the PS3 might get a "AAAE" on June 12, 2008 means nothing to me because I've enjoyed games on my PS3 all the way up until now.

I never claimed the PS3 has any AAA's, so I dont know what point you're trying to make there... all I said is I've enjoyed plenty of great games on the PS3 before MGS4. I thought that would be obvious.

you pretty much said that.

a 9.0 = AAA.

so you were wondering why uncharted didnt get AAA (9.0) from gamespot like the other sites. i dont know if you realize it, but thats basically what you were saying.

No, I implied if you're going to hold Gamespot's scores to be high and mighty, you might as include everyone else's. The critic score on the GS review page of Uncharted was 9.0, that's what I said.

its 9.0 on GS critic scores because they go by .5 increments. so Gamespot rounded it up.

check metacritic and GR (for some reason GR rounds up scores) its not AAA and there is no conspiracy

Do you just make this up? I never said there was a conspiracy, you did.

You can stop putting words in my mouth anytime now. ;)

I guess I'm a "cow" but I've playing very quality games before MGS4 and I will continue after it.

Gamespot =/= gospel. I don't care what ya say.

AC-360

I know you wouldn't be saying this if the 360 was in the PS3's position.

No, I implied if you're going to hold Gamespot's scores to be high and mighty, you might as include everyone else's. The critic score on the GS review page of Uncharted was 9.0, that's what I said.

carljohnson3456

its 9.0 on GS critic scores because they go by .5 increments. so Gamespot rounded it up.

check metacritic and GR (for some reason GR rounds up scores) its not AAA and there is no conspiracy

Do you just make this up? I never said there was a conspiracy, you did.

You can stop putting words in my mouth anytime now. ;)

i know you didnt say there was a conspiracy, you implied it by saying how come gamespot didnt give a 9.0 to uncharted like every other site in the world. that looks like a conspiracy statement to me, although i said it jokingly

but either way, lets just agree to disagree, our argument has gotten quite stale. lol. we are just going in circles right now

[QUOTE="Soulkiller225"]Wow 1 1/2 years later they finally get an amazing exclusive title. That took a while.MSG4 is goona be amazingMaximumD

You see, PS3 is a 7 -8 year system. After MGS4, it'll start rolling out more and more AA - AAA games.

Yep...that's why I say 2010 is on Sony lockdown baby. Get rid of your 360 by 2010 because that's when it's going to be owned by the PS3.

[QUOTE="AC-360"]

I guess I'm a "cow" but I've playing very quality games before MGS4 and I will continue after it.

Gamespot =/= gospel. I don't care what ya say.

TMontana1004

I know you wouldn't be saying this if the 360 was in the PS3's position.

I would say the same thing since GS reviews have gone to crap for a while (I didn't trust them even before the LOZ:TP incident). I usally go to ign if I really need hlep in making a choice. The only Gospel is myself.

[QUOTE="Soulkiller225"]Wow 1 1/2 years later they finally get an amazing exclusive title. That took a while.MSG4 is goona be amazingMaximumD

You see, PS3 is a 7 -8 year system. After MGS4, it'll start rolling out more and more AA - AAA games.

Yeah, that makes sense. :roll:

but either way, lets just agree to disagree, our argument has gotten quite stale. lol. we are just going in circles right nowogvampire

We're not going in circles, you're putting words in my mouth. You're saying I was wrong for saying this, that and the other thing, and I didnt.

But ok. I'm done too.

one of the biggest AAAE droughts in the history of gaming

quite the accomplishment there, sony.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]but either way, lets just agree to disagree, our argument has gotten quite stale. lol. we are just going in circles right nowcarljohnson3456

We're not going in circles, you're putting words in my mouth. You're saying I was wrong for saying this, that and the other thing, and I didnt.

But ok. I'm done too.

great, lets start again. you didnt say conspiracy, i said that you implied it. get it?

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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]but either way, lets just agree to disagree, our argument has gotten quite stale. lol. we are just going in circles right nowogvampire

We're not going in circles, you're putting words in my mouth. You're saying I was wrong for saying this, that and the other thing, and I didnt.

But ok. I'm done too.

great, lets start again. you didnt say conspiracy, i said that you implied it. get it?

lol Keep clinging to straws man. I didnt imply a conspiracy, I IMPLIED if you're going to hold GS's opinion so high you might as well hold everyone else's opinion high. The critic score was 9.0. Gamespot's was 8.0. No conspiray, just different review scores.

I'm done. You have no arugment. You said I claimed the PS3 has AAAE's... I didnt. You said I claimed Uncharted was AAAE... I didnt. I simply said I enjoyed plenty of great games before MGS4. I'm done. We shouldnt even still be talking about it.

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comming from a fanboy with only a 360 gamercard, what does that mean to me? Thats like someone bashing halo, who knows nothing about it. its not fanboyism dude, MGS4 is not perfect, but I promise you it is PRIME, and has every bit of the criteria required for a 10 score.

Mau-Justice

And some pictures of Boxart in your sig verifys you?

I'm an old school gamer, Ninja Gaiden is one of my favorite series next to Castlevania's/Metroid's etc. My personal taste of NG over MGS makes me a fanboy?

You're the one predicting with the blatant fanboy comments.

Also you're saying I'm not a true gamer because I like Ninja Gaiden over Metal Gear Solid? You need to go back to the drawing board. How can you say it's prime to get a 10, Have you played the game yet? Didn't think so fanboy. Cows...sigh.

Lol, im a fanboy now? Lets see....who completely turned the conversation of: MGS4 vs. NG2.... into a conversation about: PS3 vs. 360. YOU went there not me, and you didnt just support your game of choice and attack the other game, you attacked the console the other game is on in favor of your console of choice, and you immediately get defensive and call me out as being a COW, as if I attacked your system, proving YOU to be a LEMMING.

and FYI, It is possible to be a huge fan of the MGS series, and not being some blind fanboy like you, just hyping a game because it makes my chosen console look good. I am an MGS fan first and a PS3 fan second. Do not get that twisted.

again, YOU went there, NOT ME. YOU took this conversation the fanboy route. so who is the fanboy again?