So, was GameCube more powerful than PS2 or not?

The GC was more powerful. RE4 etc.

gamecube had the best looking games last generation. Oh how times have changed.

gamecube had the best looking games last generation. Oh how times have changed.

nhh18

[QUOTE="nhh18"]

gamecube had the best looking games last generation. Oh how times have changed.

ohthemanatee

Gamecube was equal to Xbox through theinequities of both.

Xbox couldn't handle a direct port of Rebel Strike, Gamecube couldn't handle a direct port of Halo 2.

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"][QUOTE="nhh18"]

gamecube had the best looking games last generation. Oh how times have changed.

nhh18

I played all of those games, and Rogue Squadron 2 is the only one I could agree with

[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"] Ninja Gaiden black and the chronicles of Riddick disagreeohthemanatee

I played all of those games, and Rogue Squadron 2 is the only one I could agree with

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="nhh18"]Starfox adventures, zelda wind waker, resident evil 4, luigi mansion, and star wars rogue squadron 2 disagree. Gamecube consistently had the best looking games. It is sad though that isn't the case anymore.

nhh18

I played all of those games, and Rogue Squadron 2 is the only one I could agree with

NG and Riddick however is graphically better.

[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

I played all of those games, and Rogue Squadron 2 is the only one I could agree with

Disturbed123

NG and Riddick however is graphically better.

I think the PS2 proved that Graphics didnt really matter when you hadalot ofthe Exclusives. Not sure if that philosophy applys today, but I guess teh Wii might say yes if were going by sales of Console. Today, we care way more about graphcis then back then, because back then we were still on SDTVs. But now, we want to show off our High Def TVs.

XboximusPrime

Graphics mattered. The PS2 was talked about as a supercomputer in the pre-release hype just like the PS3, and that was one of many reasons it defeated the Dreamcast (which itself was hyped because of its amazing graphics on games like Soul Calibur). By the time the Gamecube and Xbox entered the market, the PS2 had already sold over 20 million units worldwide, and third parties the world over were completely on-board. The PS2 simply had the most and best games, and the biggest franchises came to it first; it was backwards compatible, it played DVDs, and according to one of the old magazines I have lying around from 1999 it was so powerful that we probably didn't need PCs anymore.

Anyway, the difference between the PS2 and Gamecube is insignificant compared to the practically-generational gap between the Wii and PS3/360 in terms of power.

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

I think the PS2 proved that Graphics didnt really matter when you hadalot ofthe Exclusives. Not sure if that philosophy applys today, but I guess teh Wii might say yes if were going by sales of Console. Today, we care way more about graphcis then back then, because back then we were still on SDTVs. But now, we want to show off our High Def TVs.

SakusEnvoy

Graphics mattered. The PS2 was talked about as a supercomputer in the pre-release hype just like the PS3, and that was one of many reasons it defeated the Dreamcast (which itself was hyped because of its amazing graphics on games like Soul Calibur). By the time the Gamecube and Xbox entered the market, the PS2 had already sold over 20 million units worldwide, and third parties the world over were completely on-board. The PS2 simply had the most and best games, and the biggest franchises came to it first; it was backwards compatible, it played DVDs, and according to one of the old magazines I have lying around from 1999 it probably replaced our PCs.

Anyway, the difference between the PS2 and Gamecube insignificant compared to the practically-generational gap between the Wii and PS3/360 in terms of power.

Don't forget The legend of Zelda Twilight Princess.

[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

[QUOTE="nhh18"]zelda wind waker, resident evil 4, nor starfox advetures are top 5 best looking games last generation.

nhh18

NG and Riddick however is graphically better.

oh, and the games you mentioned aren´t? :roll:

Xbox > Gamecube > PS2 > Dreamcast

that's pretty much how it went down

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

I think the PS2 proved that Graphics didnt really matter when you hadalot ofthe Exclusives. Not sure if that philosophy applys today, but I guess teh Wii might say yes if were going by sales of Console. Today, we care way more about graphcis then back then, because back then we were still on SDTVs. But now, we want to show off our High Def TVs.

nhh18

Graphics mattered. The PS2 was talked about as a supercomputer in the pre-release hype just like the PS3, and that was one of many reasons it defeated the Dreamcast (which itself was hyped because of its amazing graphics on games like Soul Calibur). By the time the Gamecube and Xbox entered the market, the PS2 had already sold over 20 million units worldwide, and third parties the world over were completely on-board. The PS2 simply had the most and best games, and the biggest franchises came to it first; it was backwards compatible, it played DVDs, and according to one of the old magazines I have lying around from 1999 it probably replaced our PCs.

Anyway, the difference between the PS2 and Gamecube insignificant compared to the practically-generational gap between the Wii and PS3/360 in terms of power.

My holier-than-thou friends (they are brothers) say that it wasn't and (plenty of) its games had horrible textures, what say you? Is there any scientific evidence that would prove GC's superiority? Anyway, I intuitively and instinctively feel that GC was indeed more powerful, but even if it wasn't, the difference wasn't that big to warrant it a panning.

Salt_The_Fries

if you have eyes, then gamecube

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="nhh18"]Starfox adventures, zelda wind waker, resident evil 4, luigi mansion, and star wars rogue squadron 2 disagree. Gamecube consistently had the best looking games. It is sad though that isn't the case anymore.

nhh18

I played all of those games, and Rogue Squadron 2 is the only one I could agree with

Conkers bad fur day destroys SFA. I used to think this too untill i played it recently, it looks like a damn 360 game.

I preferred the look of games like WW, RE4 and ED to xbox games but theres no denying its games were the top of the pile (Riddick, Doom, Chaos Theory etc.). I personally found them ugly.

Who needs scientific evidence when you have eyes? It was more powerful than the PS2, no question about it.

BZSIN

Nope. Sorry. It used mini disc not DVD less storage. ;)

[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]Resident Evil 4.SwagSurf

Gamecube or PS2? :P

Anyways..I'm really not sure because both have showed great nice graphical games

[QUOTE="BZSIN"]

Who needs scientific evidence when you have eyes? It was more powerful than the PS2, no question about it.

rp108

Nope. Sorry. It used mini disc not DVD less storage. ;)

[QUOTE="rp108"]

[QUOTE="BZSIN"]

Who needs scientific evidence when you have eyes? It was more powerful than the PS2, no question about it.

Yo-gan

Nope. Sorry. It used mini disc not DVD less storage. ;)

Clearly the winking icon went over your head.

[QUOTE="SwagSurf"]

Gamecube or PS2? :P

Anyways..I'm really not sure because both have showed great nice graphical games

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qz0LbKpZtI

DANG Gamecube owned.

Gamecube, I loved it but I wish it had more support.

Rogue Squadron 2

This was a Gamecube launch title. /thread

On paper, the GC was supposedly more powerful. But I owned both consoles and the only game I ever saw for GC that I think looked better than the best PS2 titles was RE4. I've played all the other big GC games that people say look so incredibly amazing (if I have to hear about the snow world from MP1 one more time I'll lose it), and I don't think they looked that great.

The way I see it, if you want to claim your system is more powerful, than the games have to prove it. And I honestly and truly believe that the vast majority of big PS2 games, especially near the end of its life, look vastly superior to anything the GC ever put out (except RE4).

[QUOTE="SwagSurf"]

Gamecube or PS2? :P

Anyways..I'm really not sure because both have showed great nice graphical games

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qz0LbKpZtI

DANG Gamecube owned.

On paper, the GC was supposedly more powerful. But I owned both consoles and the only game I ever saw for GC that I think looked better than the best PS2 titles was RE4. I've played all the other big GC games that people say look so incredibly amazing (if I have to hear about the snow world from MP1 one more time I'll lose it), and I don't think they looked that great.

The way I see it, if you want to claim your system is more powerful, than the games have to prove it. And I honestly and truly believe that the vast majority of big PS2 games, especially near the end of its life, look vastly superior to anything the GC ever put out (except RE4).

ZIMdoom

[QUOTE="Yo-gan"][QUOTE="rp108"]

Nope. Sorry. It used mini disc not DVD less storage. ;)

rp108

Clearly the winking icon went over your head.

Yes but DC > both. j/k

Well at least Xbox > all three. :P

Gamecubes graphics are more comparable to xbox than ps2.

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

On paper, the GC was supposedly more powerful. But I owned both consoles and the only game I ever saw for GC that I think looked better than the best PS2 titles was RE4. I've played all the other big GC games that people say look so incredibly amazing (if I have to hear about the snow world from MP1 one more time I'll lose it), and I don't think they looked that great.

The way I see it, if you want to claim your system is more powerful, than the games have to prove it. And I honestly and truly believe that the vast majority of big PS2 games, especially near the end of its life, look vastly superior to anything the GC ever put out (except RE4).

Devil-Itachi

Here is how I look at it. If I had to list the games I played on PS2 and GC that had some of the best graphics, the list would look something like this:

RE4, SH3, Ico, Shadow of Colossus, Mark of Kri, FFX, FF12, GT, GTA series, Dark Cloud 2, SH2, etc, etc, etc.

In other words, when you look at the total library of both systems, the graphics and art style of PS2 titles is much greater than what the GC offered. While GC had some great games, in terms of graphics, they were mostly underwhelming, cartoony, and really blocky/chunky looking like the N64.

Everybody knows that the tech whent Xbox>GCN>PS2. Everyone's mentioning Resident Evil 4 as a good comparison, but it was ported from gamecube to PS2 which means it was probably going to look worse from the transition regardless of the power of the second system. The best technical graphics that are exclusive to GCN are probably from Metroid Prime 2 echoes. It was such a VAST upgrade from the already visually praised original

But Shadow of the Colossus looks better so it looks like it's all in the hands of the developers

[QUOTE="rp108"]

[QUOTE="Yo-gan"] So your saying having more storage on a disc makes it a more powerful console? *facepalm* You must love bluray disc then :| DVD's had more storage space no question about that, but bear in mind Gamecube discs couldn't be pirated and almost eliminated loading times.Yo-gan

Clearly the winking icon went over your head.

I do think there is a big difference between a fanboy and a consumer but on these forums there is no such distinction. For example, I think the PS3 is garbage. It is outclassed by Xbox 360 but that opinion is viewed as fanboy even though I paid $400 for my PS3 and have played it multiple times and tried over and over again with updates and 'teh exclus1ves" to "wow" me but fails everytime.

Back to the topic. The Gamecube was more powerful as was the Xbox and Dreamcast. What saved the PS2 was a software library and Nintendos refusal to support mature gamers. Dreamcast also screwed itself which helped the PS2 as well. Such as no support from EA.

The Gamecube. Metroid Prime 1 and 2, RE4, Rogue Squadron 2 and 3, and Baten Kaitos were great looking games.

[QUOTE="RTUUMM"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qz0LbKpZtI

DANG Gamecube owned.

monson21502

um......................... ok? i dont understand what that had to do with my post

Same hardware as PS2, it was just overclocked

the Wii is just a overclocked GC

Same hardware as PS2, it was just overclocked

the Wii is just a overclocked GC

Ultizer

My holier-than-thou friends (they are brothers) say that it wasn't and (plenty of) its games had horrible textures, what say you? Is there any scientific evidence that would prove GC's superiority? Anyway, I intuitively and instinctively feel that GC was indeed more powerful, but even if it wasn't, the difference wasn't that big to warrant it a panning.

Salt_The_Fries

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="painguy1"]

PS2 was the weakest of teh 3.The gamecube had a superior CPU to the Xbox 1, but the xbox excelled at everything else over the 3. so basically

xbox ≥ GCN >> PS2

MoonMarvel

Huh? That can't be right...?

no the GCN's CPU is stronger. The PowerPC 7xx architecture beats teh crap out of an intel 3 clocked at the xbox 1's frequency. Clock speed is not the only thing that matters. The performance of a CPU is subjective to the architecture it uses. The GC's 400ish mhz CPU was much faster than the xbox 1's 700ish mhz intel 3. You two obviously believe in the megahertz myth. google it, and i assure u that u will be elightened.

My holier-than-thou friends (they are brothers) say that it wasn't and (plenty of) its games had horrible textures, what say you? Is there any scientific evidence that would prove GC's superiority? Anyway, I intuitively and instinctively feel that GC was indeed more powerful, but even if it wasn't, the difference wasn't that big to warrant it a panning.

Salt_The_Fries

Of course it was, especially when you consider that in the hands of a skilled developer, the best looking GC games looked as good as Xbox games. Looking at the numbers is deceptive, but if you look at on screen perfomance you'd see that there's a bigger difference between GC and PS2 than there is between GC and Xbox.

I've woke up to an alternative reality where it's the year 2002. :? Metroid Prime 2 was superior to anything the PS2 put out.

/thread.