So what exactly did Sony copy from Nintendo?

Not many people know this, but the Cell processor was actually developed by Nintendo EAD under the direction of the brilliant engineer Shigeru Miyamoto. Nintendo had planned to use the revolutionary architecture in the Wii, but Sony stole the patent and the technology ended up in the wretched PS3 instead!ActionRemix

funny thing is i could see sheep believing that considering how they worship shiggy like a man-god.

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]TC, you realise that the only reason Sheep say this is because they are buthurt at all the damage Nintendo did to themselves? If Nintendo hadnt pi**ed off Sony by asking them to produce a CD drive for the SNES, and then went to Phillips instead, Sony consoles would not exist. So you see, its Nintendos fault that the Playstation exists, and they hate it because it does so well. That is why Sony coped nintendo, because Nintendo went to Sony for somethign they couldnt make alone, then screwed them over by going elsewhere. Sony already had made them the tech, so put it in a console of there own. so laugh, and laugh some more at the sheep. Nintendo asked Sony for a drive. Fact. Sony then released that drive as teh playstation 1. :) OhSnapitz

Truth! Very few people remember this transaction (or lack there of).

Rumble? There was rumble in PC controllers before N64 rumble pack

yeah but sony included it in reaction to the fact ninento released it

Sixaxis/Move? Motion sensing by sony was in development way before Wii, also other consoles like Atari and PC had it waaaaaay before wii

PS Move wasnt in developement way before Wii and Sony announced it purely and only because they saw the success of Wii

Analog stick? Atari5200

Sony included analog stick in PS one controllers as a reaction to the success of analog stick on N64, 5200 stick was terrible and didnt influence anything at all.

me2002

My responses in red - those are the things Sony copied from Ninty. You also forgot shoulder buttons. ;)

They copied the console. Everyone knows Nintendo did it before Sony, and they just got it off Atari. I mean, why make a console Sony? Why rip off all the other people who made game consoles before?

They also copied the practice of gamepads. Come on Sony, be more original, every console and their mother uses gamepads. Sheesh.

So unoriginal.

SPYDER0416

[QUOTE="me2002"]

Rumble? There was rumble in PC controllers before N64 rumble pack

yeah but sony included it in reaction to the fact ninento released it

Sixaxis/Move? Motion sensing by sony was in development way before Wii, also other consoles like Atari and PC had it waaaaaay before wii

PS Move wasnt in developement way before Wii and Sony announced it purely and only because they saw the success of Wii

Analog stick? Atari5200

Sony included analog stick in PS one controllers as a reaction to the success of analog stick on N64, 5200 stick was terrible and didnt influence anything at all.

BlbecekBobecek

My responses in red - those are the things Sony copied from Ninty. You also forgot shoulder buttons. ;)

your last point is ironic due to the fact your trying to write off something Atari and arcades had done for ages and was clearly influential in the design of the analogue stick in a controller.

PS move has its roots in eyetoy im sure aswell.

Ps move recently? But whatever they all copy. This is the copy-cat industry.

They copied their console idea. I mean honestly! NINTENDO MADE CONSOLES BEFORE THEM!!! I am seriously still bloody annoyed that Sony made a console, thus copying everything from NINTENDO! Honestly why do people love sony so much, NINTENDO MADE THE FIRST CONSO- Oh wait.... :|

simomate

[QUOTE="simomate"]

They copied their console idea. I mean honestly! NINTENDO MADE CONSOLES BEFORE THEM!!! I am seriously still bloody annoyed that Sony made a console, thus copying everything from NINTENDO! Honestly why do people love sony so much, NINTENDO MADE THE FIRST CONSO- Oh wait.... :|

NiKva

cause Ninty dropped Sony and then went off to CES and announced they were in bed with Phillips at a fairly late stage in the design process.Sony was furious and used that R&D to bring the PS1 to fruition.

[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

[QUOTE="me2002"]

Rumble? There was rumble in PC controllers before N64 rumble pack

yeah but sony included it in reaction to the fact ninento released it

Sixaxis/Move? Motion sensing by sony was in development way before Wii, also other consoles like Atari and PC had it waaaaaay before wii

PS Move wasnt in developement way before Wii and Sony announced it purely and only because they saw the success of Wii

Analog stick? Atari5200

Sony included analog stick in PS one controllers as a reaction to the success of analog stick on N64, 5200 stick was terrible and didnt influence anything at all.

razgriz_101

My responses in red - those are the things Sony copied from Ninty. You also forgot shoulder buttons. ;)

your last point is ironic due to the fact your trying to write off something Atari and arcades had done for ages and was clearly influential in the design of the analogue stick in a controller.

PS move has its roots in eyetoy im sure aswell.

Yea, but the point of analogue stick on N64 was that it was the best way to navigate in 3D space, which was the new hit back then. Thats what made it such a succes. Analogue stick on Atari 5200 on the other hand won many "worst controller in gaming history" awards...

alot of things but it really doesnt matter

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

My responses in red - those are the things Sony copied from Ninty. You also forgot shoulder buttons. ;)

BlbecekBobecek

your last point is ironic due to the fact your trying to write off something Atari and arcades had done for ages and was clearly influential in the design of the analogue stick in a controller.

PS move has its roots in eyetoy im sure aswell.

Yea, but the point of analogue stick on N64 was that it was the best way to navigate in 3D space, which was the new hit back then. Thats what made it such a succes. Analogue stick on Atari 5200 on the other hand won many "worst controller in gaming history" awards...

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

They copied the console. Everyone knows Nintendo did it before Sony, and they just got it off Atari. I mean, why make a console Sony? Why rip off all the other people who made game consoles before?

They also copied the practice of gamepads. Come on Sony, be more original, every console and their mother uses gamepads. Sheesh.

So unoriginal.

parkurtommo

Hey guys! Its Captain Obvious! Hooray, we're all saved!

But yes I was clearly joking, I had to be clear lest Poe's Law take effect.

[QUOTE="NiKva"][QUOTE="simomate"]

They copied their console idea. I mean honestly! NINTENDO MADE CONSOLES BEFORE THEM!!! I am seriously still bloody annoyed that Sony made a console, thus copying everything from NINTENDO! Honestly why do people love sony so much, NINTENDO MADE THE FIRST CONSO- Oh wait.... :|

razgriz_101

cause Ninty dropped Sony and then went off to CES and announced they were in bed with Phillips at a fairly late stage in the design process.Sony was furious and used that R&D to bring the PS1 to fruition.

All companies are infulenced by the other, when one has a good mechanic or idea the other copies it and uses it (or in Sony's case) usually improves on it. It's called competition and it's a good thing, otherwise the systems wouldn't improve and they would all be too expensive. Nintendo introduced the controll stick and what did Sony do? They took it and improved it by adding two sticks, which is now the industry standard.

But wait a minute, isn't Nintendo getting Blu Ray with Wii U? So are they copying Sony now!? No it's called competition, and if you don't like it move to North Korea. I hear it's great this time of year over there....

Sony copied Nintendo and entered the games industry, they also copied coming out first with PS2 and err they copied Mario Kart.....

Seriously SW is just like Junior school where kids would be like 'you copien me! stopp it or am tellin!' Maybe time to grow and accept it's just business :P

BTW I am not saying it's ok to not be creative, I am absolutely against the PS Move but as far as games go who the hell cares if Sony makes an alternative. OMG Sony is making a fighting game with their characters !? Yeah they should ask permission from Ninty to make their games >_>

[QUOTE="me2002"]

Rumble? There was rumble in PC controllers before N64 rumble pack

Sixaxis/Move? Motion sensing by sony was in development way before Wii, also other consoles like Atari and PC had it waaaaaay before wii

Remote Play? PSP had it first

Dog simulator game? Sony didn't make it and Nintendogs wasn't the 1st pet simulator game

D-pad? Intellivision console

Analog stick? Atari5200

Latest rumoured Sony Smash Brothers? Ergheiz and others

Why am I still hearing it....?

super600

The last part can be true if you're referencing first party crossover fighting games. I think ninty made the first one, but if you are referencing crossover fighting games in general ninty didn't make the firstone.

Rumble? There was rumble in PC controllers before N64 rumble pack

Sixaxis/Move? Motion sensing by sony was in development way before Wii, also other consoles like Atari and PC had it waaaaaay before wii

Remote Play? PSP had it first

Dog simulator game? Sony didn't make it and Nintendogs wasn't the 1st pet simulator game

D-pad? Intellivision console

Analog stick? Atari5200

Latest rumoured Sony Smash Brothers? Ergheiz and others

Why am I still hearing it....?

me2002

I can't wait for next gen when Trent introduces some fancy named mouse and keyboard.

The predecessor of the Dualshock was basically a SNES controller with and extra set of shoulder buttons and "hand" grips that basically only work for children or people with small hands, otherwise more like finger grips.

they copied me mostly not giving a **** about them and their old franchises after a couple generations.

[QUOTE="JETS-JETS-JETS"]

It has nothing to do with hardware or wiimotes with Sony. Sony jacked Segas n Nintendos style. Completely ripped them off with all the cartoon characters they made and how they promoted them. Sony was never aiming at Sega back then. Until they figured out really quick theres no killing mario and made god of war sweet tooth jak rachet to give them more a grown up feel. Took what Sega tried to do and did it 10x better. Also, with all the rpgs and stealing square. While people remember what MS did when they came in and took online gaming up a lvl and forged their own path with halo. They didn't try and take anyones style they did their own thing. And then the King of rpg system the playstations 1 n 2 flipped it around with ps3 and made shooters. Sony just takes peoples style.

tormentos

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="NiKva"] Sony was actually working with Nintendo once, but then decided to make their Playstation :Pnintendoboy16

cause Ninty dropped Sony and then went off to CES and announced they were in bed with Phillips at a fairly late stage in the design process.Sony was furious and used that R&D to bring the PS1 to fruition.

And they sided with Philips and look at the abomination of a Zelda game we got in return.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

cause Ninty dropped Sony and then went off to CES and announced they were in bed with Phillips at a fairly late stage in the design process.Sony was furious and used that R&D to bring the PS1 to fruition.

razgriz_101

And they sided with Philips and look at the abomination of a Zelda game we got in return.

Frankly the copying has been a good thing. If Sony didn't take cues from MS on how to make PSN any good we might have linux but I doubt we'd have that in game XMB or an attractive Playstation store.

Rumble? There was rumble in PC controllers before N64 rumble pack

Sixaxis/Move? Motion sensing by sony was in development way before Wii, also other consoles like Atari and PC had it waaaaaay before wii

Remote Play? PSP had it first

Dog simulator game? Sony didn't make it and Nintendogs wasn't the 1st pet simulator game

D-pad? Intellivision console

Analog stick? Atari5200

Latest rumoured Sony Smash Brothers? Ergheiz and others

Why am I still hearing it....?

Am sure Sony has a done a lot of things that Nintendo has been ripping it off.

Thats just business.

If one console has internet, it would be silly not to include it in your console when theres millions of people using it and require it.

Rumble? There was rumble in PC controllers before N64 rumble pack

Sixaxis/Move? Motion sensing by sony was in development way before Wii, also other consoles like Atari and PC had it waaaaaay before wii

Remote Play? PSP had it first

Dog simulator game? Sony didn't make it and Nintendogs wasn't the 1st pet simulator game

D-pad? Intellivision console

Analog stick? Atari5200

Latest rumoured Sony Smash Brothers? Ergheiz and others

Why am I still hearing it....?

Maybe they didn't copy Nintendo directly but they jumped on the same bandwagon in a matter of time. For example the DualShock was just two analoge sticks slapped on a SNES-like gamepad with in-built rumble while the N64 pad had that before but had only 1 stick and you had to buy the rumble. They also jumped in the motion control trend after the Wii (re)introduced it. And the Vita clearly takes inspiration from DS' touch screens.

I think you could say that Nintendo sets gaming trends while Sony improves on them.

If I had a $ for every time a "Sony or Microsoft copied Nintendo" thread appeared I'd be rich.

[QUOTE="nini200"][QUOTE="me2002"]

Rumble? There was rumble in PC controllers before N64 rumble pack

Sixaxis/Move? Motion sensing by sony was in development way before Wii, also other consoles like Atari and PC had it waaaaaay before wii

Remote Play? PSP had it first

Dog simulator game? Sony didn't make it and Nintendogs wasn't the 1st pet simulator game

D-pad? Intellivision console

Analog stick? Atari5200

Latest rumoured Sony Smash Brothers? Ergheiz and others

Why am I still hearing it....?

tormentos

Sony looks up to Nintendo plain and simple and there's nothing wrong with that.

Sony also copied Backwards Compatibility from Nintendo as well as the Implementation method of putting Motion Into Games. I mean, clearly, if you can't see that Move is a blatantly and pretty terrible rip of the WiiMote, you seriously need HD Glasses.

Shigeru Miyamoto quoted Charles Caleb Colton's "Imitation is the Sincerest form of Flattery" due to the fact that Sony is clearly looking up to and using Nintendo's ideas to improve their console. Nintendo didn't do alot of things first but they did do alot of things in Gaming first. Nobody can dispute that.

Modnation Racers is a blatant rip off of Mario Kart (Even Kevin Butler points out that in the commercial - We are the Better Mario Kart is basically what he states). Also, Kevin Butler also points out the fact that Sony's Move is blatantly ripping off the Wii's Motion in his Resistance commercial. We have the better Motion Control's are basically what he states. If you can't see that Sony is ripping off Nintendo some this gen, you are blind and total fanboy.

They aren't ripping everything from Nintendo but they are taking alot of ideas from them and trying to improve on them because they seem to have hit a creative peak. The PS2 was innovative for Sony with the Media portion as far as DVD playability.

[QUOTE="me2002"]

Rumble? There was rumble in PC controllers before N64 rumble pack

Sixaxis/Move? Motion sensing by sony was in development way before Wii, also other consoles like Atari and PC had it waaaaaay before wii

Remote Play? PSP had it first

Dog simulator game? Sony didn't make it and Nintendogs wasn't the 1st pet simulator game

D-pad? Intellivision console

Analog stick? Atari5200

Latest rumoured Sony Smash Brothers? Ergheiz and others

Why am I still hearing it....?

dotWithShoes

GBA didn't have remote play.

Maybe they didn't copy Nintendo directly but they jumped on the same bandwagon in a matter of time. For example the DualShock was just two analoge sticks slapped on a SNES-like gamepad with in-built rumble while the N64 pad had that before but had only 1 stick and you had to buy the rumble. They also jumped in the motion control trend after the Wii (re)introduced it. And the Vita clearly takes inspiration from DS' touch screens.

I think you could say that Nintendo sets gaming trends while Sony improves on them.

nameless12345

Don't forget that the PS1 controller was designed ergonomically. It wasn't a pad, nor was it yet a trend. Suddenly there are quite a few distinctions between the SNES pad and the PS1 controller.

Why not phones, tablets, mp3 players, special laptop screens, etc?

everyone copies in business. its smart business if you ask me.

Yeah there were a few mash up games but NONE of them played like Smash Bros. Most of them were traditional fighters with Tag or 3D roaming fighting. Also, How and when did I say Sony was copying Smash Bros? Please find in there where I said that. I'll waitnini200

[QUOTE="nini200"]Yeah there were a few mash up games but NONE of them played like Smash Bros. Most of them were traditional fighters with Tag or 3D roaming fighting. Also, How and when did I say Sony was copying Smash Bros? Please find in there where I said that. I'll waittormentos

did you just credit MS for doing something first?, thats a shame co s i am going to have to disagree, the first motion controller was the sega activator for the megadrive in 1993 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_controller oh, and Ergheiz does exist,cloud strife from FFVII was one of the characters, its an arcde game though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ehrgeizdelta3074

What about this?

The Power Glove is a controller accessory for the Nintendo Entertainment System, and the first peripheral interface controller to recreate human hand movements on a television or computer screen in real time.
The Power Glove was originally released in 1989.

[QUOTE="delta3074"]did you just credit MS for doing something first?, thats a shame co s i am going to have to disagree, the first motion controller was the sega activator for the megadrive in 1993 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_controller oh, and Ergheiz does exist,cloud strife from FFVII was one of the characters, its an arcde game though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EhrgeizKiZZo1

What about this?

The Power Glove is a controller accessory for the Nintendo Entertainment System, and the first peripheral interface controller to recreate human hand movements on a television or computer screen in real time.
The Power Glove was originally released in 1989.

[QUOTE="cainetao11"] did halo ever appear on a ps2? It was an idea that was targeted at mac and ps2. If would like to build a home in Hawaii, and buy the wood there, but move and build it in LA is it a Hawaii house? tormentos

Halo was originally envisioned as an RTS game for MAC, didn't know there was a PS2 version in the works. If it was an RTS still at that stage it would have been interesting to see if it changed RTS on consoles instead of FPS on consoles, though I swear they changed it to FPS because of the move to Xbox.

[QUOTE="nini200"]Yeah there were a few mash up games but NONE of them played like Smash Bros. Most of them were traditional fighters with Tag or 3D roaming fighting. Also, How and when did I say Sony was copying Smash Bros? Please find in there where I said that. I'll waittormentos

Where did the Playstation come from? Technology left over from a failed deal between Nintendo and Sony to create a CD add-on to the Super Nintendo.

Where did the move come from? overlooking older tech from old consoles, the move was first conceived in 2001 after the eyetoy. The shape? copied from Nintendo Wiimote in 2009 to overcome intial challenges brought on from earlier designs, which included a glove.

The Dpad? The modern design was created by Gunpei Yokoi for the Game & Watch. The Intellivision controller consisted of a number pad and a disk.

The Analogue Stick? Everyone knows the Vectrex had the first modern analogue stick, not a joystick like the Atari. Nintendo had nothing to do with this one.

You know what, who gives a flying ****. I'm a huge Nintendo fan, and will defend them to the ends of the Earth, but why does it matter who did what first? In todays gaming, there is no such thing as originality. It just happens that Atari and Nintendo did everything first because they have been around the longest. You know what really annoys me about this thread. It serves no purpose other than for you to try to stir trouble because you are just proving the old Sony fanboy stereotype that Sony is God and they have never done anything wrong. Their console was born in an act of revenge towards Nintendo because Nintendo was too dumb to try to renegotiate a contract instead of just cancelling it forthright. You have no room to talk because the only thing Sony truly did that was revolutionary was the dual analogue stick. Even your argument is just showing how everything you Sony gamers hold dear is just copied from ancient consoles from before either of us were born. Even the disk-based games were beaten out by the CDi and the Saturn. You people have nothing to stand for because your arguments are always based towards pride and not fact. I have NO PROBLEM with Sony. Love their consoles, and their games. I think their amazing and they really got stiffed a little on the Nintendo contract. My problem is with YOU. Not you specifically, but the endless hordes of bigoted Sony gamers who can never seem to take a hint that all companies screw up and are not perfect. Nintendo has the Powerglove, The Virtual Boy, the N64DD, the fact that they can never hold on to decent 3rd party support, and their stance on content in games. Sony has the problem that they are in it for the profit and they rely on the fact that you guys are dumb enough to buy their products simply to support Sony, not because it is a quality system. At least 360 gamers buy the 360 because the games are fun, even if they are elitist too.

Just stop trying to start trouble because their is NOTHING you can say to redeem Sony gamers.

WiiCubeM1

Dude...get outside once and a while...

I still don't see how it matters. Do you guys stop drinking bottled water from different manufactures because they copied from the original? Do you guys not drink Pepsi or Dr. Pepper because Coke came first? Do you guys not want to use any other OS outside of Unix because it came first?

I still don't see how it matters. Do you guys stop drinking bottled water from different manufactures because they copied from the original? Do you guys not drink Pepsi or Dr. Pepper because Coke came first? Do you guys not want to use any other OS outside of Unix because it came first?

Wasdie