So what happened to the SW rules?

I can't wait to see how people will react when the next big game gets reviewed. Something tells me there's gonna be alot of ''GS doesn't really count anyway...''. I hope the mods willget the message.Timesplitter14

RPGamer is right, hermits are the most soft spoken on this forum.

they really only post when the pc is attacked.

... know what I give up with this entire site... USE YOUR BRAINS. Seriously... GR would be stupid beyond belief and ignoring an entire sect of the community is also ridiculous.... Honestly, hermits contribute just as much as any other group.. There have to be at least 10 hermits that contribute more than most of the entire rest of the community.horrowhip

problem solved...

[QUOTE="horrowhip"]... know what I give up with this entire site... USE YOUR BRAINS. Seriously... GR would be stupid beyond belief and ignoring an entire sect of the community is also ridiculous.... Honestly, hermits contribute just as much as any other group.. There have to be at least 10 hermits that contribute more than most of the entire rest of the community.JPOBS

problem solved...

I would be in full favor of that but there are a bunch of conspiracy theorists on this website convinced that scores are for sale... The score for Kane and Lynch didn't change did it? No.... Jeff was most likely already on a short leash because of his previous unprofessionalism. Gamespot should continue to be used.... Thing is, I would readily accept usage of an average score of IGN, Eurogamer and GS.

...know what I give up with this entire site... USE YOUR BRAINS. Seriously... GR would be stupid beyond belief and ignoring an entire sect of the community is also ridiculous.... Honestly, hermits contribute just as much as any other group.. There have to be at least 10 hermits that contribute more than most of the entire rest of the community.horrowhip

They're not ignoring an entire "sect" of gaming, they just don't review as many titles for it as the other end of the market spectrum.

I didn't say they don't contribute, they're just not as active as the other flavors of fanboy. Honestly, this isn't some new revelation here, and it's not like we're saying "screw the hermits". The use of GT (if we even do something at all) still considers hermits.

[QUOTE="horrowhip"]...know what I give up with this entire site... USE YOUR BRAINS. Seriously... GR would be stupid beyond belief and ignoring an entire sect of the community is also ridiculous.... Honestly, hermits contribute just as much as any other group.. There have to be at least 10 hermits that contribute more than most of the entire rest of the community.-RPGamer-

They're not ignoring an entire "sect" of gaming, they just don't review as many titles for it as the other end of the market spectrum.

I didn't say they don't contribute, they're just not as active as the other flavors of fanboy. Honestly, this isn't some new revelation here, and it's not like we're saying "screw the hermits". The use of GT (if we even do something at all) still considers hermits.

My point is that GameTrailers doesn't review many PC games and the ones they do, they give absolutely atrocious reviews...

3 Website average would provide enough diversity to give a better concensus than a single website but not overdo it.Also, Eurogamer,IGN and GS allhave very similar review systems in terms of standards and expectations of games.They also give accurate reviews for all platforms, which GT does not...I would still prefer everything staying as is but if it really does get forced, I guess that is a viable alternative.

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="horrowhip"]...know what I give up with this entire site... USE YOUR BRAINS. Seriously... GR would be stupid beyond belief and ignoring an entire sect of the community is also ridiculous.... Honestly, hermits contribute just as much as any other group.. There have to be at least 10 hermits that contribute more than most of the entire rest of the community.horrowhip

They're not ignoring an entire "sect" of gaming, they just don't review as many titles for it as the other end of the market spectrum.

I didn't say they don't contribute, they're just not as active as the other flavors of fanboy. Honestly, this isn't some new revelation here, and it's not like we're saying "screw the hermits". The use of GT (if we even do something at all) still considers hermits.

My point is that GameTrailers doesn't review many PC games and the ones they do, they give absolutely atrocious reviews...

3 Website average would provide enough diversity to give a better concensus than a single website but not overdo it.Also, Eurogamer,IGN and GS allhave very similar review systems in terms of standards and expectations of games.They also give accurate reviews for all platforms, which GT does not...I would still prefer everything staying as is but if it really does get forced, I guess that is a viable alternative.

And all I'm saying is GT does review some PC games (ones that mostly get any thread mention here), and I'm not going to pass judgement on their reivews. Review sites don't need to fall into your agreement to be viable wesites overall or their content.

Do we really want similar expectations and standards from these sites? That doesn't speak much for diversity.

I don't really care much how it ends, I'm just trying to keep the sides balanced one what sites should be used or not, and for what reasons.

How about you all use the average score of player reviews? whitetiger3521

[QUOTE="horrowhip"]... know what I give up with this entire site... USE YOUR BRAINS. Seriously... GR would be stupid beyond belief and ignoring an entire sect of the community is also ridiculous.... Honestly, hermits contribute just as much as any other group.. There have to be at least 10 hermits that contribute more than most of the entire rest of the community.JPOBS

problem solved...

Sticking with GS has ALWAYS been a problem, and the recent news make the problem even more important. That's why we should at least use Gamerankings, or at best the IGN/GS/Eurogamer average

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

[QUOTE="horrowhip"]... know what I give up with this entire site... USE YOUR BRAINS. Seriously... GR would be stupid beyond belief and ignoring an entire sect of the community is also ridiculous.... Honestly, hermits contribute just as much as any other group.. There have to be at least 10 hermits that contribute more than most of the entire rest of the community.Timesplitter14

problem solved...

Sticking with GS has ALWAYS been a problem, and the recent news make the problem even more important. That's why we should at least use Gamerankings, or at best the IGN/GS/Eurogamer average

in truth, using gamerankings would kill system wars.

The SW meta game is pretty much drowning right now. *shrug*Ibacai

Yeah, that's pretty much the overall sum of it..

nothing has changed.CaseyWegner

[QUOTE="skektek"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Only paranoid fanboys think GS has changed :roll:Gh0st_Of_0nyx

nothing has changed.CaseyWegner

War has changed.Snake

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="skektek"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Only paranoid fanboys think GS has changed :roll:Liquid-GEAR

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]nothing has changed.Hewkii

War has changed.Snake

Touche

why not IGN?
Apocalypse33

... because this is GS.... GS has to be used in some way... And it has to count significantly too. 1/3 weight sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

Here since people protested GT...

Eurogamer is based in Britain if memory serves me right, their games aren't exactly equivalent to that of IGN or GS, nor are they released at the same time.

Eurogamer doesn't fit with the other two sites.

Little for instance of what I mentioned for Eurogamer.

Zack and Wiki releases on 10/23 reviewed shortly there after or on that date by IGN and GS. People on this forum then start waiting for a review from the third site to call flop or not, and SW forumers for the most part haven't proven themselves patient to say the least.

So Eurogamer finally reviews said title on 11/30...

Tell me do you guys really think that'll fly? :?

I'm using GR. I don't care what mods say (why should anyone tell us what we use?). I don't care if you use GS or you use IGN or you use Metacritic, just no one can say "we only use GS" anymore without being laughed at even more than before. Use what you want, but after this BS, no one should be dissing anyone's choice of review platform. Besides, using a single site is stupid. GR fluctuates slightly, but big deal. Not like us fanboys and geeks don't have a lot of free time on our hands anyways.bretthorror

SW has rules for a reason. Don't like them then leave. GS is the only site that counts right now. A revote is unlikely at best and GR shouldn't win or SW will die. GR doesn't just fluctuate but look at the sheer quantity of crappy review websites included in the scoring... sorry but it is stupid to consider GR viable.

Little for instance of what I mentioned for Eurogamer.

Zack and Wiki releases on 10/23 reviewed shortly there after or on that date by IGN and GS. People on this forum then start waiting for a review from the third site to call flop or not, and SW forumers for the most part haven't proven themselves patient to say the least.

So Eurogamer finally reviews said title on 11/30...

Tell me do you guys really think that'll fly? :?

-RPGamer-

I suppose not but there aren't really any better options....

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

Little for instance of what I mentioned for Eurogamer.

Zack and Wiki releases on 10/23 reviewed shortly there after or on that date by IGN and GS. People on this forum then start waiting for a review from the third site to call flop or not, and SW forumers for the most part haven't proven themselves patient to say the least.

So Eurogamer finally reviews said title on 11/30...

Tell me do you guys really think that'll fly? :?

horrowhip

I suppose not but there aren't really any better options....

There are many review sites besides IGN, GS, And Eurogamer. Am I getting this notion from you that all of these said sites are some how not up to par with those three? I find that very hard to believe.

SW wouldn't be the fun it is with out the flops. What fun would sw be with GR as the reviewer, none. We would never have the flops that make sw fun. Yea alot of the games don't deserve to be flopped but we know that. It's just that the flops are part of what make Sw what it is. we must use a system that insures we have flops on games that normally wouldn't be flops.hatecalledlove

yep. Thats my sentiments... Thats also why I still don't like the idea of using the average of IGN, Eurogamer and Gamespot but that is the next best thing to keeping things as they are...

There are many review sites besides IGN, GS, And Eurogamer. Am I getting this notion from you that all of these said sites are some how not up to par with those three? I find that very hard to believe.-RPGamer-

those 3 work the best... GT doesn't work for reasons said above. 1UP doesn't work because they have two completely different review systems within their own website. GamesRadar doesn't work because will... they aren't any fun.. Gamespy uses a out of 5 system... I mean really... how many other websites are even viable?

nothing has changed.CaseyWegner

Do you honestly believe that? I mean, officially it hasnt changed, but will it ever work again? It seems like the SW scores game is dead now, because there will never be any consensus about if GS scores really count again, gamerankings/metacritic have no standard model so they cant be used, and no one will ever really agree on what other sites should be used.

[QUOTE="bretthorror"]I'm using GR. I don't care what mods say (why should anyone tell us what we use?). I don't care if you use GS or you use IGN or you use Metacritic, just no one can say "we only use GS" anymore without being laughed at even more than before. Use what you want, but after this BS, no one should be dissing anyone's choice of review platform. Besides, using a single site is stupid. GR fluctuates slightly, but big deal. Not like us fanboys and geeks don't have a lot of free time on our hands anyways.horrowhip

SW has rules for a reason. Don't like them then leave. GS is the only site that counts right now. A revote is unlikely at best and GR shouldn't win or SW will die. GR doesn't just fluctuate but look at the sheer quantity of crappy review websites included in the scoring... sorry but it is stupid to consider GR viable.

Wow, it is more dumb to use only GS.....and please dont' give me the whole "Go somewhere else spiel"....if you haven't looked at the poll floating around here...>Gamerankings is dominating GS.

Maybe you should go somewhere else because it seems the people have spoken.

I honestly can never trust a review again. This is Gamespot, only Gamespot should be used. But we can't turst it.

Why don't we just use nothing?

I honestly can never trust a review again. This is Gamespot, only Gamespot should be used. But we can't turst it.

Why don't we just use nothing?

tman93

why use nothing, yea we can clearly see that gamespot was bought out, but last time I checked the K&l review was still crappy for a crappy game....yea it is. so yea they censored the man behind the review unfortantly. They didn't censor his review though. Using nothing makes no sense when system wars is about having fun by picking on other console user and pc gamers by hyped games flopping. with no unified review system there are no flops. whats the fun in that now?

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]There are many review sites besides IGN, GS, And Eurogamer. Am I getting this notion from you that all of these said sites are some how not up to par with those three? I find that very hard to believe.horrowhip

those 3 work the best... GT doesn't work for reasons said above. 1UP doesn't work because they have two completely different review systems within their own website. GamesRadar doesn't work because will... they aren't any fun.. Gamespy uses a out of 5 system... I mean really... how many other websites are even viable?

Many sites are viable. To be perfectly honest I have a hard time believing an excuse not to use a site is "they're not any fun". The out of 5 is equally questionable, it's not like IGN and GS see eye-to-eye either anymore based on GS' .5 scale. I'm not overly convinced GT doesn't work still. Asfor 1Up I assume you speak of the different publications, which I don't see any issue with and they even use the same .5 scale we use now.

Those all sound viable to some degree or another, not one of your excuses seems to dismiss them as not being a site we could use.

[QUOTE="tman93"]

I honestly can never trust a review again. This is Gamespot, only Gamespot should be used. But we can't turst it.

Why don't we just use nothing?

hatecalledlove

why use nothing, yea we can clearly see that gamespot was bought out, but last time I checked the K&l review was still crappy for a crappy game....yea it is. so yea they censored the man behind the review unfortantly. They didn't censor his review though. Using nothing makes no sense when system wars is about having fun by picking on other console user and pc gamers by hyped games flopping. with no unified review system there are no flops. whats the fun in that now?

They did censor the review. The video review is gone all together and the review itself has been edited (it says just to show the difference between the PS3 and 360 but they changed other stuff as well). They did leave the score though. But this incedent could have an effect on many future reviews.

why don't we just wait it out and see with the next couple of big reviews if the reviews are being paid off. we can tell the difference guys. All we have to do as a community is look to the other sites and we will be able to tell if Gs is in deed paid off. if that happens then yes I say we use a new review system in swars but not until that. Who knows this could embarrass the hell out of Cnet and Gs will go back to the way it should be. hatecalledlove

The reviewers arent being paid off, they are being threatened with their jobs.

why don't we just wait it out and see with the next couple of big reviews if the reviews are being paid off. we can tell the difference guys. All we have to do as a community is look to the other sites and we will be able to tell if Gs is in deed paid off. if that happens then yes I say we use a new review system in swars but not until that. Who knows this could embarrass the hell out of Cnet and Gs will go back to the way it should be. hatecalledlove

Bottom line is Sw is dead. The sw system is GS reviews, if people dont trust them, I think sw should die all together. Use whatever you want but the FUN of system wars is dead and is never coming back....

[QUOTE="hatecalledlove"]why don't we just wait it out and see with the next couple of big reviews if the reviews are being paid off. we can tell the difference guys. All we have to do as a community is look to the other sites and we will be able to tell if Gs is in deed paid off. if that happens then yes I say we use a new review system in swars but not until that. Who knows this could embarrass the hell out of Cnet and Gs will go back to the way it should be. supermanfarr

Bottom line is Sw is dead. The sw system is GS reviews, if people dont trust them, I think sw should die all together. Use whatever you want but the FUN of system wars is dead and is never coming back....

really well I was just having fun making fun of the hype train for sony that is killzone. so I'll hold off on the notation that swars is dead, and that it will never be fun again. When most of the solid posters here in swars aren't leaving they are staying. So lets see what happens when the reviews start back and people start back to making fun of other people's system of choice, and people making fun of hyped games flopping. Yea swars will never be the same, but as long as there are people here who have decided that they aren't leaving, it's far from dead.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]nothing has changed.laughingman42

Do you honestly believe that? I mean, officially it hasnt changed, but will it ever work again? It seems like the SW scores game is dead now, because there will never be any consensus about if GS scores really count again, gamerankings/metacritic have no standard model so they cant be used, and no one will ever really agree on what other sites should be used.

people are blowing things way out of proportion.

[QUOTE="laughingman42"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]nothing has changed.CaseyWegner

Do you honestly believe that? I mean, officially it hasnt changed, but will it ever work again? It seems like the SW scores game is dead now, because there will never be any consensus about if GS scores really count again, gamerankings/metacritic have no standard model so they cant be used, and no one will ever really agree on what other sites should be used.

people are blowing things way out of proportion.

[QUOTE="bretthorror"]I'm using GR. I don't care what mods say (why should anyone tell us what we use?). I don't care if you use GS or you use IGN or you use Metacritic, just no one can say "we only use GS" anymore without being laughed at even more than before. Use what you want, but after this BS, no one should be dissing anyone's choice of review platform. Besides, using a single site is stupid. GR fluctuates slightly, but big deal. Not like us fanboys and geeks don't have a lot of free time on our hands anyways.horrowhip

SW has rules for a reason. Don't like them then leave. GS is the only site that counts right now. A revote is unlikely at best and GR shouldn't win or SW will die. GR doesn't just fluctuate but look at the sheer quantity of crappy review websites included in the scoring... sorry but it is stupid to consider GR viable.

What are the rules in place for?

Are you off your rocker, dude? You just critiqued GR sites when the site you're on is in the middle of the biggest scandal in recent memory. Everyone who has half a brain is already GR and we'll continue to do so with more people. I don't have to leave anywhere because a few people think GS is fact and they aren't in SW to discuss the games but to discuss a review, which is so dumb it's not even funny. The difference is this, a year ago, I'm in the minority with GR. Now, I'm in the majority. A recent poll has proven this.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="laughingman42"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]nothing has changed.Ibacai

Do you honestly believe that? I mean, officially it hasnt changed, but will it ever work again? It seems like the SW scores game is dead now, because there will never be any consensus about if GS scores really count again, gamerankings/metacritic have no standard model so they cant be used, and no one will ever really agree on what other sites should be used.

people are blowing things way out of proportion.

Thing is it has been happening for over the past year as the insider has told us.

[QUOTE="laughingman42"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]nothing has changed.CaseyWegner

Do you honestly believe that? I mean, officially it hasnt changed, but will it ever work again? It seems like the SW scores game is dead now, because there will never be any consensus about if GS scores really count again, gamerankings/metacritic have no standard model so they cant be used, and no one will ever really agree on what other sites should be used.

people are blowing things way out of proportion.

people are making this a bigger deal than it is imo.

i think anyone who stays in gamespot should just (logically) continue to use gs in sw. For those of with with some sort of problem with gamespot think they are biased/corrupt whatever seriously just leave.

dont feed me that horsedung about "but but da news and da forums are good because everywebsite on the internet has a forum and they all do the same thing.

people are making this a bigger deal than it is imo.

i think anyone who stays in gamespot should just (logically) continue to use gs in sw. For those of with with some sort of problem with gamespot think they are biased/corrupt whatever seriously just leave.

dont feed me that horsedung about "but but da news and da forums are good because everywebsite on the internet has a forum and they all do the same thing.

JPOBS

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

people are making this a bigger deal than it is imo.

i think anyone who stays in gamespot should just (logically) continue to use gs in sw. For those of with with some sort of problem with gamespot think they are biased/corrupt whatever seriously just leave.

dont feed me that horsedung about "but but da news and da forums are good because everywebsite on the internet has a forum and they all do the same thing.

skektek

but it isn't broken... Thats what nobody understands... It WILL be broken if GR becomes the norm though...

[QUOTE="skektek"][QUOTE="JPOBS"]

people are making this a bigger deal than it is imo.

i think anyone who stays in gamespot should just (logically) continue to use gs in sw. For those of with with some sort of problem with gamespot think they are biased/corrupt whatever seriously just leave.

dont feed me that horsedung about "but but da news and da forums are good because everywebsite on the internet has a forum and they all do the same thing.

horrowhip

but it isn't broken... Thats what *NOBODY* understands... It WILL be broken if GR becomes the norm though...