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Best statement I herd in this whole thread countering the TC good job tho I have never ever played LO tho herd it was a good game and turn based.. I never ever played turn based games before but I sorta wanna try it out..I guess I am a GENERATION to late...360 gamers like me preferring to wait for the sure to be superior JRPG.....
Lost Odyssey 2. :D
SecretPolice
[QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"]
360 owners tend to realize how much JRPGs suck.
calvinsora
You don't like JRPGs, so you say they suck. That's awesome!
Ah dont sweat it, all they like these days are RPGs that are shooters and have dialogue options... because dialogue options make an RPG fun. :lol:My best guesstimate:
1. PS3 Exclusive in Japan.
2. The 360 has more RPGs than the PS3, so there is more competition for FFXIII on the 360.
3. Inferior version
:roll:
[QUOTE="calvinsora"][QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"]
360 owners tend to realize how much JRPGs suck.
Birdy09
You don't like JRPGs, so you say they suck. That's awesome!
Ah dont sweat it, all they like these days are RPGs that are shooters and have dialogue options... because dialogue options make an RPG fun. :lol:Uh, no. Some of us prefer WRPGs because, ya know, you can actually ROLE PLAY. And, please show me the rule that says RPG can't have guns. :roll:
I bet there are actually 2-3 million copies of FFXIII on Xbox 360... unfortunatly, they have all been acquired via Digital Distribution.
Ah dont sweat it, all they like these days are RPGs that are shooters and have dialogue options... because dialogue options make an RPG fun. :lol::roll:[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="calvinsora"]
You don't like JRPGs, so you say they suck. That's awesome!
WardCleaver02
Uh, no. Some of us prefer WRPGs because, ya know, you can actually ROLE PLAY. And, please show me the rule that says RPG can't have guns. :roll:
Oh I like this excuse, considering limited scripted options is not near the concept of what Role-playing was before its computerized.... just like JRPGs. oh and... the shooters bit.... yea I'm refering to the shooter obsession. because WRPGs and Shooters is all that scores good now, its called "trends" ... as pointless as they are. Last Gen DA would never have got the ammount of love it does now. its ironic.The PS3 version was able to sell 2 million copies within 24 hours of release. Aren't Xbox users grateful that Square-Enix has given them the gift of Final Fantasy?
CammieIsWii
Given?
Nothing was given.
Microsoft paid for it.
[QUOTE="locopatho"]Not released in Japan. And it's an inferior port. That's why.CammieIsWii
It's also not an inferior port. It just caters to what Xbox users want, which is....
So does that go for all gamers who don't own a PS3, because that is essentially what you're saying. If you don't own a PS3 you have lower standards. Do PC gamers have teh lower standards as well?
EDIT: oh and grateful? you sound like this guy.
[QUOTE="locopatho"]Not released in Japan. And it's an inferior port. That's why.CammieIsWii
That's not really relevant since...
It's also not an inferior port. It just caters to what Xbox users want, which is....
[QUOTE="WardCleaver02"]:roll:[QUOTE="Birdy09"] Ah dont sweat it, all they like these days are RPGs that are shooters and have dialogue options... because dialogue options make an RPG fun. :lol:Birdy09
Uh, no. Some of us prefer WRPGs because, ya know, you can actually ROLE PLAY. And, please show me the rule that says RPG can't have guns. :roll:
Oh I like this excuse, considering limited scripted options is not near the concept of what Role-playing was before its computerized.... just like JRPGs. oh and... the shooters bit.... yea I'm refering to the shooter obsession. because WRPGs and Shooters is all that scores good now, its called "trends" ... as pointless as they are. Last Gen DA would never have got the ammount of love it does now. its ironic. Bioware RPGs have always scored well. And many JRPGs have guns in them :D[QUOTE="MRblue45"]This. Worst of all final fantasies as rated by many fans...Because it's a crap game.
Phazevariance
And it's also rated the best by many fans :? Two is most often the game that is considered worst, not XIII. It's just haters blowing things out of proportion.
Ah dont sweat it, all they like these days are RPGs that are shooters and have dialogue options... because dialogue options make an RPG fun. :lol::roll:[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="calvinsora"]
You don't like JRPGs, so you say they suck. That's awesome!
WardCleaver02
Uh, no. Some of us prefer WRPGs because, ya know, you can actually ROLE PLAY. And, please show me the rule that says RPG can't have guns. :roll:
I don't think one genre is better than the other (I like JRPGs more, personally), but JRPGs are just as much RPGs as WRPGs. You control your character's progression AS a character (levels, stats, battle strategies, accessories, weapons). That is playing a role. I don't think actually controlling the story and narrative is a necessity in RPGs. It all goes by definition. But in no way are WRPGs more of an RPG genre than JRPGs. It's a stupid myth spread around by those that simply don't like JRPGs.
[QUOTE="Phazevariance"][QUOTE="MRblue45"]
Because it's a crap game.
This. Worst of all final fantasies as rated by many fans...And it's also rated the best by many fans :? Two is most often the game that is considered worst, not XIII. It's just haters blowing things out of proportion.
Really? So haters are lying with "linear level design" and "no cities" comments that they made up? Those are two major things that FF is known to have avoided 12 times before...[QUOTE="WardCleaver02"]
:roll:[QUOTE="Birdy09"] Ah dont sweat it, all they like these days are RPGs that are shooters and have dialogue options... because dialogue options make an RPG fun. :lol:calvinsora
Uh, no. Some of us prefer WRPGs because, ya know, you can actually ROLE PLAY. And, please show me the rule that says RPG can't have guns. :roll:
I don't think one genre is better than the other (I like JRPGs more, personally), but JRPGs are just as much RPGs as WRPGs. You control your character's progression AS a character (levels, stats, battle strategies, accessories, weapons). That is playing a role. I don't think actually controlling the story and narrative is a necessity in RPGs. It all goes by definition. But in no way are WRPGs more of an RPG genre than JRPGs. It's a stupid myth spread around by those that simply don't like JRPGs.
I can get more health, weapons, items, magic horses and progress through a story in Zelda, does that make an RPG? I consider super linear, zero choice J"RPG"s like Final Fantasy X to be the polar opposite of a role playing game.[QUOTE="calvinsora"][QUOTE="Phazevariance"] This. Worst of all final fantasies as rated by many fans...Phazevariance
And it's also rated the best by many fans :? Two is most often the game that is considered worst, not XIII. It's just haters blowing things out of proportion.
Really? So haters are lying with "linear level design" and "no cities" comments that they made up? Those are two major things that FF is known to have avoided 12 times before...Not overblowing the flaws, overblowing that it's the worst. Most people haven't even played all FF games, but those that have usually hate 2 the most.
[QUOTE="calvinsora"][QUOTE="WardCleaver02"]
Uh, no. Some of us prefer WRPGs because, ya know, you can actually ROLE PLAY. And, please show me the rule that says RPG can't have guns. :roll:
locopatho
I don't think one genre is better than the other (I like JRPGs more, personally), but JRPGs are just as much RPGs as WRPGs. You control your character's progression AS a character (levels, stats, battle strategies, accessories, weapons). That is playing a role. I don't think actually controlling the story and narrative is a necessity in RPGs. It all goes by definition. But in no way are WRPGs more of an RPG genre than JRPGs. It's a stupid myth spread around by those that simply don't like JRPGs.
I can get more health, weapons, items, magic horses and progress through a story in Zelda, does that make an RPG? I consider super linear, zero choice J"RPG"s like Final Fantasy X to be the polar opposite of a role playing game.You get to choose your character progression and weapons. You NEED the hookshot, the master sword, the bow and arrow, and you can't use the pieces of heart to boost any attribute but health. You can control your stats and equipment completely in JRPGs, thus, you control the character's individual progression, hence "role". Linearity and little story choice (there is choice in many other aspects) are things that don't necessarily mean that it isn't an RPG. You can disagree, but it doesn't make FF any less of an RPG.
I can get more health, weapons, items, magic horses and progress through a story in Zelda, does that make an RPG? I consider super linear, zero choice J"RPG"s like Final Fantasy X to be the polar opposite of a role playing game.[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="calvinsora"]
I don't think one genre is better than the other (I like JRPGs more, personally), but JRPGs are just as much RPGs as WRPGs. You control your character's progression AS a character (levels, stats, battle strategies, accessories, weapons). That is playing a role. I don't think actually controlling the story and narrative is a necessity in RPGs. It all goes by definition. But in no way are WRPGs more of an RPG genre than JRPGs. It's a stupid myth spread around by those that simply don't like JRPGs.
calvinsora
You get to choose your character progression and weapons. You NEED the hookshot, the master sword, the bow and arrow, and you can't use the pieces of heart to boost any attribute but health. You can control your stats and equipment completely in JRPGs, thus, you control the character's individual progression, hence "role". Linearity and little story choice (there is choice in many other aspects) are things that don't necessarily mean that it isn't an RPG. You can disagree, but it doesn't make FF any less of an RPG.
Can't remember controlling my stats at all :? Just remember sphere grid and equipment, which was always just a better or worse versionn of the same weapon, ie Wakka always used a ball. Maybe it's just FFX but it seems about as in depth as choosing my weapon in COD...[QUOTE="Magik85"]I guess Lems prefered to buy ME2 :Pmajestix1988
because its a shooter
Majority of 360 owners are Halo gamers
Its more of an RPG than FFXIII is.Lol... I am only going by my personal preference, but that sums it up for me, pretty much. FF isnt in the same realm as games like Mass Effect 1 and 2, Dragons Age, Oblivion, etc. etc. and I am not interested in buying the game.360 owners tend to realize how much JRPGs suck.
ThatGuyFromB4
[QUOTE="CammieIsWii"]
[QUOTE="locopatho"]Not released in Japan. And it's an inferior port. That's why.MFDOOM1983
That's not really relevant since...
It's also not an inferior port. It just caters to what Xbox users want, which is....
That was the perfect response.
[QUOTE="ThatGuyFromB4"]Lol... I am only going by my personal preference, but that sums it up for me, pretty much. FF isnt in the same realm as games like Mass Effect 1 and 2, Dragons Age, Oblivion, etc. etc. and I am not interested in buying the game.360 owners tend to realize how much JRPGs suck.
JediRiff
funny because it think the opposite. those wrpg's cant touch games like ff7, 8, 9, 10, 13, kingdom hearts, persona 3 and 4, smt nocturne, valkyria chronicles
Easy. I don't think that's a type of game that most 360 gamers care about. Everyone I know who games on the 360, minus a few, aren't in to turn-based RPGs, including myself. Plus, there are already many good RPGs available on the 360, like Mass Effect 1 & 2, Oblivion , Fallout, Fable 2, and possibly Lost Odyssey. I really think most 360 gamers play shooters and action titles, while few play the RPGs, so even a huge title like FF probably won't sell as well as it does on the PS3, especially seeing as how a lot of Playstation loyalist, who played the FF games back on PS1 and PS2, are looking forward to it more on PS3. Just my opinion on the matter, and I probably won't be buying FF for my 360 or PS3, not really my type of game.Graphics look great and the presentation looks top notch, so I hope it does well across both platforms!
:roll:[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]
[QUOTE="CammieIsWii"]
That's not really relevant since...
- The Xbox 360 userbase in Japan is miniscule
- When FFXIII released on PS3, it was only released in Japan. Yet it still sold 2 million in 24 hours.
It's also not an inferior port. It just caters to what Xbox users want, which is....
- Standard Definition cinematics
- Lossy audio
SgtKevali
That was the perfect response.
I'm pretty sure most 360 users aren't interested in SD cut scenes or lossy audio!I know a ton of 360 users who only play their 360 on a LCD or HDTV, and I don't know a single one who plays it on a CRT tv. Unless your referring to the original Xbox.[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]This. If it wasn't for its name, it wouldn't probably sell even that much. Prove it. Lost odyssey sold around 800K so far. It didn't have neither proper advertising nor grand reviews that FF has. http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7637http://www.gamerankings.com/xbox360/928334-lost-odyssey/index.htmlhttp://www.gamerankings.com/ps3/928790-final-fantasy-xiii/index.html Granted, FF13 wouldn't have sold as much as it did if it wasn't for its name. On the other hand, I reckon it would have gotten much better critical reception if it actually abandoned the FF franchise. Therefore, it all evens out. FF would have EASILY sold a million copies even without the name without a shred of doubt.the real question is: does FF13 deserve to sell 1 million copies?
Salt_The_Fries
[QUOTE="locopatho"]Not released in Japan. And it's an inferior port. That's why.CammieIsWii
That's not really relevant since...
It's also not an inferior port. It just caters to what Xbox users want, which is....
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