So who's skipping Ultimate MVC3 and waiting for UMVC Arcade Edition?

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#51 GD1551
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

I never want Capcom to profit from my money again until they go back to the way there were last gen .

hayato_

Wait what.... I'm pretty sure Capcom released about 3 versions of Street Fighter 3rd Strike on the Dreamcast and why is everyone hating on Capcom now. Not only have they done this in the past, but other companies are doing this as well. There is a couple versions of Blazblue out right now and Guilty Gear was the worse last gen. So many versions. Its not capcom, but Fighting games in general are known to do this. Its 2011 and now gamers are complaining :? Give me a break.

I said this in the other thread. The hatred for capcom is so strong it's blinding people to the reality of the situation. Not only that but capcom is charging quite a fair price, something people would see if they just looked at the competition.

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Just go Mortal Kombat :P
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#53 Swift_Boss_A
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I said this in the other thread. The hatred for capcom is so strong it's blinding people to the reality of the situation. Not only that but capcom is charging quite a fair price, something people would see if they just looked at the competition.

GD1551

I honestly don't care about MvC3, it's an IP that doesn't appeal to me but still I feel bad for those who purchased it this year only to find out now a better more up to date version is releasing before the end of the the year. People are not fond of yearly releases but Capcom is releasing the same game twice -new content or not- in under a year, what scumbags! But my issue with Capcom is completely different, explained in my post below...

Wait what.... I'm pretty sure Capcom released about 3 versions of Street Fighter 3rd Strike on the Dreamcast and why is everyone hating on Capcom now. Not only have they done this in the past, but other companies are doing this as well. There is a couple versions of Blazblue out right now and Guilty Gear was the worse last gen. So many versions. Its not capcom, but Fighting games in general are known to do this. Its 2011 and now gamers are complaining :? Give me a break.

hayato_

Im not simply talking about fighting game, my biggest reason for hatred towards Capcom is the westernization of great Japanese games like DMC and RE, such franchises were trend-setter but now they have become followers this gen. And there's also the problem of DRM; locking gamers out of playing certain games on consoles simply because they are playing offline, and locked to one save file on games, locked content and cancelling highly anticipated titles. All hate towards Capcom is justified in my eyes.

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#54 Shinobi120
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[QUOTE="garland51"]

Capcom burned me once on SFIV with SSFIV. I only picked up SSFIV because they have a lot more to offer besides more characters. With SSFIV:AE, I didn't buy it, because it didn't offer much in comparison to SSFIV after SFIV.

Same reason why I didn't buy the original version of MvC 3, & I'm lucky that I didn't buy it because I knew that Capcom would try this again. Now there's Ultimate MvC 3. Maybe now I'll buy the Ultimate version when it comes out.

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

And Ken STILL isn't in the game, which means they're probably saving him for Arcade Edition...sayyy-gaa

Ken's not ever getting in, period. Especially when we already have Ryu & Akuma. Plus if you were to take a look at the new character select screen, there's really no more room to add more characters in.

In speaking of Capcom burning us, this really is nothing new from them. I know when I was a kid they released TONS of SFII games. There is the world warrior, turbo edition, hyper fighting, super street fighter two, and super street fighter two turbo. There are probably some I am leaving out as well.

They did the same with SFIII. So why is everyone railing on them as though this is new?

The thing is, is that a lot of people didn't expect that there would be another version of MvC 3 like they usually are with the main SF games. Capcom just basically gave the middle finger to those who purchased the original title at $60 ($70 for the Collector's Edition).

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#55 hayato_
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Im not simply talking about fighting game, my biggest reason for hatred towards Capcom is the westernization of great Japanese games like DMC and RE, such franchises were trend-setter but now they have become followers this gen. And there's also the problem of DRM; locking gamers out of playing certain games on consoles simply because they are playing offline, and recently locked saves on games, locked content and cancelling highly anticipated titles. All hate for Capcom is justified in my eyes.

Swift_Boss_A

If all hate for Capcom is "justified" then others (mostly all publishers) should be as well. Atlus, Square-Enix, Konami, Activision, Namco-Bandai, Naughty Dog, etc

Capcom is basically "damned if they do, damned if they don't". DMC and RE would have got boring over the years if they didn't try to take new and different appoaches really. Actually the fanbase for Devil May Cry said this about DMC 4, now they let another development team take a crack at a new vision and people are still pissed. I really have no problem with Capcom because I beleive they really are the only company "trying" new things when it comes to international development between 2 teams. Only time will tell, but if the hate is "justified" towards them, then others shouldn't be exempted either by far.

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#56 GD1551
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Destructoid: I'm going to ask something you've probably already heard a few times since today's announcement: Why wouldn't this release just be downloadable add-on content instead of a disc?

Niitsuma:After the release ofMarvel vs. Capcom 3there were plans to release DLC. But, as you know, less than a month after the game was released we had the earthquake and tsunami in Japan. That had an impact on everything, and it threw off our whole development schedule. We decided that instead of doing the DLC we could put it all together in one package, add some additional stuff to make it robust and deliver it as a disc.

Just saying peeps. Never assume anything.

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#57 savebattery
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The King of Fighters XIII is the only fighting game coming out the rest of this year that matters to me.
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#58 Swift_Boss_A
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If all hate for Capcom is "justified" then others (mostly all publishers) should be as well. Atlus, Square-Enix, Konami, Activision, Namco-Bandai, Naughty Dog, etc

Capcom is basically "damned if they do, damned if they don't". DMC and RE would have got boring over the years if they didn't try to take new and different appoaches really. Actually the fanbase for Devil May Cry said this about DMC 4, now they let another development team take a crack at a new vision and people are still pissed. I really have no problem with Capcom because I beleive they really are the only company "trying" new things when it comes to international development between 2 teams. Only time will tell, but if the hate is "justified" towards them, then others shouldn't be exempted either by far.

hayato_

New and different is welcomed not lazy and old. RE5 and DMC4 were not bad games but they did not live up the their previous entries. And now Operation Raccoon City and DmC reboot look even more far taken from the original franchise. Capcom is running empty and do not have one creative bone in their body whereas last gen they were full to the brim. You are honestly telling me that Capcom is better this gen compared to last ? Other devs such as Namco and SE have fallen but none more so than Capcom.

Fans are not hating on Capcom to pass the time or find amusement, they genuinely have a point to hate on Capcom. I envy those who look past all the mistakes Capcom have made but that's exactly it, what can a dev hope to learn from such people who refuse to acknowledge a devs mistake thus leading them on to make further bad judgements.

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#59 Gotham-Calls
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i guarantee there will be dlc in umvc3 already on the disc. the missing mega man has scam written all over it.

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#60 madsnakehhh
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i guarantee there will be dlc in umvc3 already on the disc. the missing mega man has scam written all over it.

Gotham-Calls

Well, from what i know Jill and SG aren't in the roster, so you have to "buy" them again in order to get them in UMvC3, could be wrong though.

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#61 Timstuff
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="Ikouze"]

Capcom has been putting out Super Versions of thier games since the SNES days. Why are people now starting to complain? And is $40 bucks really all that bad for the content your going to be getting? You rather would pay $60 dollars to own all characters on DLC rather to pay $40 for characters, stages, spectator mode, tweaked gameplay and new modes? You need to use your brain and realize your getting a deal. Mortal Kombat already has 4 DLC characters. That's 20 dollars you shelled out for them already. A year or so down the line they may have just as many DLC characters as UMvC is going to have. In total, you'll most likely have shelled out $60 more dollars for characters. Yet no one complains of this. I can't see why you guys don't see your getting a deal here. It's not a rip-off if you would end up paying more for the DLC then you would getting it on disc.

GD1551

Mortal Kombat only has 4 DLC characters, and you can buy all 4 of them for 15. Even without those characters the roster is already plenty big, whereas with MVC3 to roster was disappointingly small. Also, Netherrealm does not nickle and dime players for things like balance updates and alternate costumes. There are the bonus Klassic Ninja costumes that you can buy, but even without those every character in the game comes with 2 costumes. Capcom charges an arm and a leg for alternate costumes even though they are already on the disc and should be free, like with every other fighting game that has them. Fat chance Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 will include any alternate costumes. According to Capcom, alternate colors is enough unless you want to pay extra.

Lmao

http://www.qj.net/ps3/games/report-mortal-kombat-ps3-has-on-disc-dlc-chat-filter.html

Sure...

Nothing new to see there. We already knew the Klassic ninja costumes were on the disc, and the article said that there are placeholder files for future DLC that is not on the disc. Also, none of the characters are on the disc-- there are only placeholder files that have no character models, no moves, pretty much nothing except a generic character model with no costume of facial modeling. I am not going to whine that MK's dev team knew what characters were DLC candidates, because at least they are doing what they should be doing and MAKING THEM LATER. Capcom had 2 finished characters on the disc for MVC3 that they decided to hold back and sell to customers later, and given how small MVC3's roster is that is inexcusable.
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#62 Timstuff
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Capcom burned me once on SFIV with SSFIV. I only picked up SSFIV because they have a lot more to offer besides more characters. With SSFIV:AE, I didn't buy it, because it didn't offer much in comparison to SSFIV after SFIV.

Same reason why I didn't buy the original version of MvC 3, & I'm lucky that I didn't buy it because I knew that Capcom would try this again. Now there's Ultimate MvC 3. Maybe now I'll buy the Ultimate version when it comes out.

[QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="The_Pacific"]You guys can go ahead and get milked by Crapcoms half games. I knew they'd re-release this game when it was announced with such a horrible lineup of characters and the nerfing of ken.garland51

And Ken STILL isn't in the game, which means they're probably saving him for Arcade Edition...

Ken's not ever getting in, period. Especially when we already have Ryu & Akuma. Plus if you were to take a look at the new character select screen, there's really no more room to add more characters in.

Even if Ken never gets added (which is a strong possibility), it doesn't matter how much room is in the select screen because they'll obviously just re-design it for arcade edition. There isn't room for 12 more characters on the select screen in MVC3 Vanilla, but they are still adding 12 characters to UMVC3. I doubt that having to re-design the select screen would be enough to deter Capcom from releasing a third version of MVC3.
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#63 Timstuff
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Destructoid: I'm going to ask something you've probably already heard a few times since today's announcement: Why wouldn't this release just be downloadable add-on content instead of a disc?

Niitsuma:After the release ofMarvel vs. Capcom 3there were plans to release DLC. But, as you know, less than a month after the game was released we had the earthquake and tsunami in Japan. That had an impact on everything, and it threw off our whole development schedule. We decided that instead of doing the DLC we could put it all together in one package, add some additional stuff to make it robust and deliver it as a disc.

Just saying peeps. Never assume anything.

GD1551

Good grief, are they ACTUALLY BLAMING THIS ON THE EARTHQUAKE!? That is so much BS I can smell it through my monitor. If the earthquake had that much effect on Capcom, then Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 would not exist. I am more than a little sickened that Capcom would attribute their incompetence and greed with such a horrible tragedy.

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#64 CoolSkAGuy
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I'm skipping all fighters from Capcom and waiting for BB3 or finally gonna try out KOF.
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#65 HAZE-Unit
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yea the new roster is not what the fans wanted but again they can't make every fan happy.

they had like a whole year and all they got is 12 characters 2 of them old and some like frank west were already known to be there cuz i remember his image was in the mvc3 roster with his shadow only.

I want moar :(

Nemesis, ghost Rider and Frank West are the standouts from the roster.

I wish if they bring some Rival Schools characters.

And where is Venom?

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#66 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Destructoid: I'm going to ask something you've probably already heard a few times since today's announcement: Why wouldn't this release just be downloadable add-on content instead of a disc?

Niitsuma:After the release ofMarvel vs. Capcom 3there were plans to release DLC. But, as you know, less than a month after the game was released we had the earthquake and tsunami in Japan. That had an impact on everything, and it threw off our whole development schedule. We decided that instead of doing the DLC we could put it all together in one package, add some additional stuff to make it robust and deliver it as a disc.

Just saying peeps. Never assume anything.

Timstuff

Good grief, are they ACTUALLY BLAMING THIS ON THE EARTHQUAKE!? That is so much BS I can smell it through my monitor. If the earthquake had that much effect on Capcom, then Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 would not exist. I am more than a little sickened that Capcom would attribute their incompetence and greed with such a horrible tragedy.

it's only for $40 dude :?

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#67 finalfantasy94
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I didint get MVC3 cause I knew this was coming. It came and it has 4 characters I really want to use so im buying it. I wont be shocked if they pull and arcade edition,but if tis anything like ssf4 AE it will be downloadable. So I dont really care.

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#68 chocolate1325
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I am gonna wait for Street Fighter 3rd Strike.

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#69 TheAcountantMan
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Hopefully Ultimate Marvel v Capcom 3 Arcade Edition makes it to the PC. I mean doesn't Capcom, use dat der M.T Framework game engine? So wouldn't that mean UMVC3 is already on PC?
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#70 DarkLink77
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I'm just skipping all Capcom games, like I have been for the past two years.

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#71 Pegalamp
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I'm just skipping all Capcom games, like I have been for the past two years.

DarkLink77
You shoould skip this, because they just announced a enhanced 3DS port.
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#72 Timstuff
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I didint get MVC3 cause I knew this was coming. It came and it has 4 characters I really want to use so im buying it. I wont be shocked if they pull and arcade edition,but if tis anything like ssf4 AE it will be downloadable. So I dont really care.

finalfantasy94
I wish I'd had the foresight to wait a few months to buy MVC3, but my fanboyism got the better of me. I'm not letting it happen again. I skipped SFIVAE because Capcom did not add enough good stuff to it, and I can quite comfortably skip UMVC3 for the same reason. Hopefully they make a disc version of UMVC3AE like they did with SSFIVAE so that I won't have to worry about DRM.
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#73 --Dyldo--
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EA release the same sports games every damn year with little changes (At full price) yet you hear no one complain about it capcom do it 3 times at reduced prices and you all whinge.. it all depends on how much you enjoy the game, if your serious about it then yes you will buy it.. same as those who buy fifa, madden, nfl, nba or whatever every year so really is it that bad? buy it or dont either way stfu about it already.. on a side note perhaps there wont be another mvc 3 released after all its the first in the series to be given a direct sequel

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#74 MyopicCanadian
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I already have MvC3... I tool around with it from time to time, but I'm not really big on the game. I like watching it on stream, but actually playing it? I dunno. So I'll probably trade in MvC3 and just pass on this version. I just want SF x Tekken already.
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bought the game for 60 and will sell it to buy this one... its a very fun game.. i hope they add replays and spectate in lobbys...oh and have the taunt button assignable to something else.. i have trouble pressing the "back" button.

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#76 LP4EVA2005
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imma get this version and the next one, and the next one etc.. cuz i love Capcom! take my money and my bodyyyyyyy
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#77 Timstuff
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[QUOTE="LP4EVA2005"]imma get this version and the next one, and the next one etc.. cuz i love Capcom! take my money and my bodyyyyyyy

And that is why Capcom started sucking. :(
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[QUOTE="garland51"]

Capcom burned me once on SFIV with SSFIV. I only picked up SSFIV because they have a lot more to offer besides more characters. With SSFIV:AE, I didn't buy it, because it didn't offer much in comparison to SSFIV after SFIV.

Same reason why I didn't buy the original version of MvC 3, & I'm lucky that I didn't buy it because I knew that Capcom would try this again. Now there's Ultimate MvC 3. Maybe now I'll buy the Ultimate version when it comes out.

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

And Ken STILL isn't in the game, which means they're probably saving him for Arcade Edition...sayyy-gaa

Ken's not ever getting in, period. Especially when we already have Ryu & Akuma. Plus if you were to take a look at the new character select screen, there's really no more room to add more characters in.

In speaking of Capcom burning us, this really is nothing new from them. I know when I was a kid they released TONS of SFII games. There is the world warrior, turbo edition, hyper fighting, super street fighter two, and super street fighter two turbo. There are probably some I am leaving out as well.

They did the same with SFIII. So why is everyone railing on them as though this is new?

Because this is system wars and people have to complain about everything.
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[QUOTE="Ikouze"]

Capcom has been putting out Super Versions of thier games since the SNES days. Why are people now starting to complain? And is $40 bucks really all that bad for the content your going to be getting? You rather would pay $60 dollars to own all characters on DLC rather to pay $40 for characters, stages, spectator mode, tweaked gameplay and new modes? You need to use your brain and realize your getting a deal. Mortal Kombat already has 4 DLC characters. That's 20 dollars you shelled out for them already. A year or so down the line they may have just as many DLC characters as UMvC is going to have. In total, you'll most likely have shelled out $60 more dollars for characters. Yet no one complains of this. I can't see why you guys don't see your getting a deal here. It's not a rip-off if you would end up paying more for the DLC then you would getting it on disc.

Timstuff

Mortal Kombat only has 4 DLC characters, and you can buy all 4 of them for 15. Even without those characters the roster is already plenty big, whereas with MVC3 to roster was disappointingly small. Also, Netherrealm does not nickle and dime players for things like balance updates and alternate costumes. There are the bonus Klassic Ninja costumes that you can buy, but even without those every character in the game comes with 2 costumes. Capcom charges an arm and a leg for alternate costumes even though they are already on the disc and should be free, like with every other fighting game that has them. Fat chance Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 will include any alternate costumes. According to Capcom, alternate colors is enough unless you want to pay extra.

And as for the whole "Capcom has done it since the SNES days", DLC was not around back in the day (or at least that I'm aware of) for consoles, so extra characters and extra modes had to added in a new game. But this is 2011, the age where DLC is the norm, there is no excuse for this.

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#80 magiciandude
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EA release the same sports games every damn year with little changes (At full price) yet you hear no one complain about it capcom do it 3 times at reduced prices and you all whinge.. it all depends on how much you enjoy the game, if your serious about it then yes you will buy it.. same as those who buy fifa, madden, nfl, nba or whatever every year so really is it that bad? buy it or dont either way stfu about it already.. on a side note perhaps there wont be another mvc 3 released after all its the first in the series to be given a direct sequel

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Nobody complains about EA releasing the same sports game every year because nobody except the casuals cares about them.

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#81 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="--Dyldo--"]

EA release the same sports games every damn year with little changes (At full price) yet you hear no one complain about it capcom do it 3 times at reduced prices and you all whinge.. it all depends on how much you enjoy the game, if your serious about it then yes you will buy it.. same as those who buy fifa, madden, nfl, nba or whatever every year so really is it that bad? buy it or dont either way stfu about it already.. on a side note perhaps there wont be another mvc 3 released after all its the first in the series to be given a direct sequel

magiciandude

Nobody complains about EA releasing the same sports game every year because nobody except the casuals cares about them.

also at least EA doesn't release news about MADDEN 12 ULTIMATE EDITION, 5 months after the first one came out.
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#82 Silverbond
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You guys act as if this is something new.

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#83 AtlanticRock
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I didn't get the original but played it and it was fun.

This version is $40 and has more characters I like: instant purchase.

I love fighting games.

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#84 --Dyldo--
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[QUOTE="magiciandude"]

[QUOTE="--Dyldo--"]

EA release the same sports games every damn year with little changes (At full price) yet you hear no one complain about it capcom do it 3 times at reduced prices and you all whinge.. it all depends on how much you enjoy the game, if your serious about it then yes you will buy it.. same as those who buy fifa, madden, nfl, nba or whatever every year so really is it that bad? buy it or dont either way stfu about it already.. on a side note perhaps there wont be another mvc 3 released after all its the first in the series to be given a direct sequel

Chris_Williams

Nobody complains about EA releasing the same sports game every year because nobody except the casuals cares about them.

also at least EA doesn't release news about MADDEN 12 ULTIMATE EDITION, 5 months after the first one came out.

because there talking about madden 13 ;) might as well be an update to madden 12