So Why is the 360, a better console?

You take away gears 2, halo 3-Reach, and Alan wake and you practically have nothing worth mentioning.

ME2,gears of war 1, splinter cell conviction are all on pc.

You pay for online while the others have it for free ( even handles ) :|

I really do want to understand this .

Explain

Why is the PS3 a better console?
You take away Uncharted, MGS4, Killzone, and Resistance and you're left with LBP and Demon's Souls. :|

You look at the fact that they will charge for premium features for the PSN even though they've touted that it was free since forever and you begin to wonder, what else will they change completely contradictory to what they've been saying?

The PS3 has less quality games than the 360.

Every system has something to offer. It's all about preference. Last time I checked, Shadow Complex isnt on the PC.

i don't get why ME, L4D, GeOW1 being on the PC means they don't count. contrary to what believed in SW not every one has a gaming PC.

You take away gears 2, halo 3-Reach, and Alan wake and you practically have nothing worth mentioning.

ME2,gears of war 1, splinter cell conviction are all on pc.

You pay for online while the others have it for free ( even handles ) :|

I really do want to understand this .

Explain

Solid_Tango

isn't this like the 100th thread in the last couple days that starts off with "if you take away halo and gears, the 360 has nothing"?

none of those threads turned out to be anything other than troll-bait, so i'm calling out TC

Because contrary to popular belief, people dont JUST play exclusives, like it seems all cows do :roll: And according to Gamespot, the 360 has more A, AA and AAA games than the PS3. Therefore its library is superior. So to sum things up:

360 Library >>> PS3 Library (according to Gamespot)

i don't get why ME, L4D, GeOW1 being on the PC means they don't count. contrary to what believed in SW not every one has a gaming PC.

dog_dirt

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i don't get why ME, L4D, GeOW1 being on the PC means they don't count. contrary to what believed in SW not every one has a gaming PC.

kittyloaf69

360 has a better games lineup than PS3 and is cheaper. Simple :)locopatho

Nah not really... the 360 isn't cheaper at all.

[QUOTE="dog_dirt"]

i don't get why ME, L4D, GeOW1 being on the PC means they don't count. contrary to what believed in SW not every one has a gaming PC.

kittyloaf69

most people who buy L4D 1 or 2 do it to play with friends, i know that's why several people i know have it on 360, and it's also the reason why i bought it on Steam (to play with friends on steam)... if my steam friends didn't have it, i wouldn't have bought it, simply put

also GeOW1 sucks on PC, but Mass Effect 1 PC is way better than Mass Effect 1 360 (still a great game on 360 anyways)

[QUOTE="dog_dirt"]

i don't get why ME, L4D, GeOW1 being on the PC means they don't count. contrary to what believed in SW not every one has a gaming PC.

kittyloaf69

Oh yeah you guys are right, i have a ps3/gaming pc and thats my point of view. But yeah for someone that doesnt have a gaming pc the 360 might seem like a better choice. What i did try to say when i named a few 360 titles is that, it doesnt have that many exclusives like the ps3, and if it has more a,aa and aaa´s games it might be because it was out 1 year before the ps3?

[QUOTE="locopatho"]360 has a better games lineup than PS3 and is cheaper. Simple :)Espada12

Nah not really......

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]360 has a better games lineup than PS3 and is cheaper. Simple :)MFDOOM1983

Nah not really......

I wasn't talk about the games check the edit lol

[QUOTE="locopatho"]360 has a better games lineup than PS3 and is cheaper. Simple :)Espada12

Nah not really... the 360 isn't cheaper at all.

Last time I checked 360 is still cheaper than the PS3. But as someone above said, take away a few games from any system and you could make the same argument.

If you look at each console without mentioning the games the PS3 is the best one. It is the only system that plays HD Bluray games and movies, has both WiFi and CAT 5 Ethernet connections, comes with charge and play ready controllers, let's you upgrade the HDD to 500gb any brand for $80,has good free online gaming, and a web browser.

People like the Wii and 360 for various reasons, but they're not the best consoles.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]360 has a better games lineup than PS3 and is cheaper. Simple :)Espada12

Nah not really... the 360 isn't cheaper at all.

If you look at each console without mentioning the games the PS3 is the best one.

El_PS3_Best

That sort of defeats the purpose of it being a GAMING console.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]360 has a better games lineup than PS3 and is cheaper. Simple :)locopatho

Nah not really... the 360 isn't cheaper at all.

I'm not.. just going to say.. live...

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

Nah not really... the 360 isn't cheaper at all.

I'm not.. just going to say.. live...

You take away gears 2, halo 3-Reach, and Alan wake and you practically have nothing worth mentioning.

ME2,gears of war 1, splinter cell conviction are all on pc.

You pay for online while the others have it for free ( even handles ) :|

I really do want to understand this .

Explain

Solid_Tango

Because people love to justify their purchase by saying "Mine is better than yours".

It's infinitely more fun owning all the systems and playing the great games that come out on all of them instead of fighting over which is the better system.

If you look at each console without mentioning the games the PS3 is the best one. It is the only system that plays HD Bluray games and movies, has both WiFi and CAT 5 Ethernet connections, comes with charge and play ready controllers, let's you upgrade the HDD to 500gb any brand for $80,has good free online gaming, and a web browser.

People like the Wii and 360 for various reasons, but they're not the best consoles.

El_PS3_Best

360 has a better games lineup than PS3 and is cheaper. Simple :)locopatho

Games: Subjective.

Cheaper? Not so much. Here's what a friend of mine's brother got for Christmas:

Xbox 360 Arcade Model - $200
1 Year Xbox Live Gold - $50
Wireless Adapter - $100
Intercooler - $40
Charging Kit - $40

Yeah, $430 < $300. Wait...what is this, I don't even...

Add on the fact that he paid for all that and he STILL doesn't have a harddrive. So add about $100 for when he decides to get a 120GB HDD.

Better games? Preference.
Cheaper? Not anymore, Slick. ;)

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] Yup it is and always has been. Please don't yell radnom accessory prices at me, I haven't bought any except a 20 euro HDMI cable.locopatho

I'm not.. just going to say.. live...

Optional, yes. But you might as well call it a mandatory fee. All the people singing the praises of Xbox Live aren't pirating it from their neighbors. It's not wi-fi, ya know.

Better games? Preference.
Cheaper? Not anymore, Slick. ;)

Ryan_Som

1. Games aren't subjective. The 360 outperforms the PS3 as far as that is concerned.
2. The 360 is cheaper. $199< $299 EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Not a requirement, it's optional.locopatho

So do you use live? Because if you do the 360 is just as expensive as the PS3 has even potential to get even more expensive than a PS3.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]360 has a better games lineup than PS3 and is cheaper. Simple :)Ryan_Som

Games: Subjective.

Cheaper? Not so much. Here's what a friend of mine's brother got for Christmas:

Xbox 360 Arcade Model - $200
1 Year Xbox Live Gold - $50
Wireless Adapter - $100
Intercooler - $40
Charging Kit - $40

Yeah, $430 < $300. Wait...what is this, I don't even...

Add on the fact that he paid for all that and he STILL doesn't have a harddrive. So add about $100 for when he decides to get a 120GB HDD.

Better games? Preference.
Cheaper? Not anymore, Slick. ;)

360 has a better games lineup than PS3 and is cheaper. Simple :)locopatho

How is it cheaper? Maybe more cheaply made. RRoD and E74 is why I don't have or even want a 360 anymore. I play my PS3 Slim with no worries

[QUOTE="locopatho"]360 has a better games lineup than PS3 and is cheaper. Simple :)Ryan_Som

Games: Subjective.

Cheaper? Not so much. Here's what a friend of mine's brother got for Christmas:

Xbox 360 Arcade Model - $200
1 Year Xbox Live Gold - $50
Wireless Adapter - $100
Intercooler - $40
Charging Kit - $40

Yeah, $430 < $300. Wait...what is this, I don't even...

Add on the fact that he paid for all that and he STILL doesn't have a harddrive. So add about $100 for when he decides to get a 120GB HDD.

Better games? Preference.
Cheaper? Not anymore, Slick. ;)

You forgot the 42 inch HDTV, couch, snacks, house, bank loans, electric bill, surround sound, internet fees, and the foot rest.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]360 has a better games lineup than PS3 and is cheaper. Simple :)Ryan_Som

Games: Subjective.

Cheaper? Not so much. Here's what a friend of mine's brother got for Christmas:

Xbox 360 Arcade Model - $200
1 Year Xbox Live Gold - $50
Wireless Adapter - $100
Intercooler - $40
Charging Kit - $40

Yeah, $430 < $300. Wait...what is this, I don't even...

Add on the fact that he paid for all that and he STILL doesn't have a harddrive. So add about $100 for when he decides to get a 120GB HDD.

Better games? Preference.
Cheaper? Not anymore, Slick. ;)

you added too much stuff.. I'm not even going to do that.

Pro 250 + live = 300

elite 300 + live = 350

X360 arcade + 20gig HDD + live = ??

Btw I included the 20gig HDD because you can't play on live without a harddrive.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]360 has a better games lineup than PS3 and is cheaper. Simple :)gregbmil

How is it cheaper?

$199< $299. That's how the 360 is cheaper.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

I'm not.. just going to say.. live...

Optional, yes. But you might as well call it a mandatory fee. All the people singing the praises of Xbox Live aren't pirating it from their neighbors. It's not wi-fi, ya know.

[QUOTE="Ryan_Som"]

Better games? Preference.
Cheaper? Not anymore, Slick. ;)

Silverbond

1. Games aren't subjective. The 360 outperforms the PS3 as far as that is concerned.
2. The 360 is cheaper. $199< $299 EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Oh yeah you guys are right, i have a ps3/gaming pc and thats my point of view. But yeah for someone that doesnt have a gaming pc the 360 might seem like a better choice. What i did try to say when i named a few 360 titles is that, it doesnt have that many exclusives like the ps3, and if it has more a,aa and aaa´s games it might be because it was out 1 year before the ps3?

Solid_Tango

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[QUOTE="locopatho"]360 has a better games lineup than PS3 and is cheaper. Simple :)Silverbond

How is it cheaper?

$199< $299. That's how the 360 is cheaper.

How will you save your games? It's just a DVD player without

gregbmil

It has 256MB worth of space. I'll figure something out.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="gregbmil"]How is it cheaper? The Arcade version? Your gonna have to just buy the HHD anyways, and MS knows that. It's either that or a over priced memory card, which I'm not sure if they even sell them anymore. Plus paying for online.

How is it cheaper?

gregbmil

$199< $299. That's how the 360 is cheaper.

Believe it or not, that memory card that it comes with can hold saved games.

But I could easily say 20 GB PS3's would all be filled within 2 or 3 game installs, thus forcing an upgrade to a bigger HDD. LOL PS3 GOT DEARER! Or I could argue all Sixaxis owners had to buy DS3s when they came out. LOL MILKAGE! It's pointless, you can't include optional extras in a consoles cost. locopatho

Are you serious? Live isn't like an optional accessory.. live is the only way to play the other 1/2 of the game I paid for. How in any shape or form does that sound optional?

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

But I could easily say 20 GB PS3's would all be filled within 2 or 3 game installs, thus forcing an upgrade to a bigger HDD. LOL PS3 GOT DEARER! Or I could argue all Sixaxis owners had to buy DS3s when they came out. LOL MILKAGE! It's pointless, you can't include optional extras in a consoles cost. Espada12

Are you serious? Live isn't like an optional accessory.. live is the only way to play the other 1/2 of the game I paid for. How in any shape or form does that sound optional?

Live is optional. You choose to play the other 1/2 half of the game.

i'm six months in to owning a ps3, and have had a 360 since Oblivion came out. While the ps3 is clearly the better built machine, and probably has a much longer life span to look forward to both in terms of hardware life and technological ceiling, the library is a JOKE. i already have almost everything worth owning for the system at 8 games. 8 games. compared to maybe 80 games on the 360, most of which are stellar titles. now, i love Blu ray and there's no getting past the fact that i use my ps3 more for movies and netflix than for gaming. but multiplatform titles are still better in almost every instance on teh 360 due to the easy development, and the exclusives there have been every bit as strong as the ps3's. and yes, the hidden fees for premium online services on the ps3 pretty much negate any argument that psn is "free".

AND ONE THING THE 360 KILLS THE PS3 ON: CUSTOM SOUNDTRACKS. on anything. the first time i tried to play music in the bg of Infamous and the ps3 told me i couldn't, i wanted to cry. when i play games on the 360, i constantly stream music and the 360 mixes the stereo into the 5.1 surround ambience perfectly. PS3 FAIL. most games license the worst mainstream music or have useless pretentious western bg music. the west never learned to make interesting video game music.

each controller has it's ups and downs; somewhere in between teh ps3 and 360 controllers is the perfect controller. take the dpad and analog face buttons of the ps3, and use the ergonomics, sticks and triggers of the 360. that would be so perfect.

i'm too in love with gaming to choose either side a winner, and you can too!

HEY, BUT AT LEAST FF13 IS A COMPLETE JOKE ON THE 360!!!

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

But I could easily say 20 GB PS3's would all be filled within 2 or 3 game installs, thus forcing an upgrade to a bigger HDD. LOL PS3 GOT DEARER! Or I could argue all Sixaxis owners had to buy DS3s when they came out. LOL MILKAGE! It's pointless, you can't include optional extras in a consoles cost.

Are you serious? Live isn't like an optional accessory.. live is the only way to play the other 1/2 of the game I paid for. How in any shape or form does that sound optional?

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

But I could easily say 20 GB PS3's would all be filled within 2 or 3 game installs, thus forcing an upgrade to a bigger HDD. LOL PS3 GOT DEARER! Or I could argue all Sixaxis owners had to buy DS3s when they came out. LOL MILKAGE! It's pointless, you can't include optional extras in a consoles cost. Espada12

Are you serious? Live isn't like an optional accessory.. live is the only way to play the other 1/2 of the game I paid for. How in any shape or form does that sound optional?

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

But I could easily say 20 GB PS3's would all be filled within 2 or 3 game installs, thus forcing an upgrade to a bigger HDD. LOL PS3 GOT DEARER! Or I could argue all Sixaxis owners had to buy DS3s when they came out. LOL MILKAGE! It's pointless, you can't include optional extras in a consoles cost. locopatho

Are you serious? Live isn't like an optional accessory.. live is the only way to play the other 1/2 of the game I paid for. How in any shape or form does that sound optional?

Ok? What does that have to do with anything? And why haven't you answered my earlier question of if you ever used live?