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#1 Spardabx
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http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3170791&p=37

Ok...I'm beggining to worry. :?

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#2 Dr_Snood
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Even though I am considered a Lemming, I feel that isn't fair to review a game with server issues. Let them fix it and then review the game. The old Socoms rocked, and I am pretty sure this one will too (once the lag and server issues are fixed that it).
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#3 epic_pets
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Doesnt look too bad
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#4 bigLLL
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I wouldnt worry but this game wont get good scores because it's still to buggy, when the patches are in it will go from a 7 to 9 but obviously reviews cant be changed
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#6 VendettaRed07
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i can agree with this

but for me its more like an 8.4 its very addictive

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#7 Nike_Air
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This is where reading a review helps. Such a shame it shipped with so many technical hiccups out of the gate ..... the core game sounds really good and fun.

I am surprised that they are going to update the review though.

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#8 hopesfall2own
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I diden't know A was a bad score;|JangoWuzHere
User rating, editor rating was C+
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#9 fistoflight
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I say it will get a 7 or 7.5 here. If it is below that you can officially pwn me.
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#10 Hitman533
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The reviews says at the end that they will post an updated review once the server issues are fixed. Expect the review to be higher than a C so don't worry, great game.
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#11 SonyMarksman70
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Wow, they'll update the review later. That's why it's harsh to review online games
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#12 rolo107
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I was hoping for something higher. I want a multiplayer hook to play on my PS3. I played Resistance for awhile, and a tad bit of Warhawk, but neither really hooked me enough for continued play.
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#13 fistoflight
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They will update the review after the patch is out. The servers and stuff has really been a beap.
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#14 lantus
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That actually painted a good picture for me, hopefully bythe time Christmas rolls around, this game will be nice and functional, I'll be ready to buy it with the headset. :)
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#15 Zerocrossings
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Is there even any hype for this game?
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#16 hopesfall2own
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Why should they update their review? No reviews update their reviews when a full retail game is shipped and gets updates/patches, why should this be any different? All Socom had to do was have a functional online system, and it can't even do that. Pretty sad that they are going to reneg on the review cause it wasn't up to their standards. What a joke :roll:
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#17 EVOLV3
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I think A on GS.
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#18 All_that_is_Man
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http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3170791&p=37

Ok...I'm beggining to worry. :?

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#19 0rin
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Well, it's a good thing my hype level for this game never even formed into an actual opinion. I have no idea what this will score. Possibly 7.0, possibly 5.0. Maybe even a 9.0. Your guess is as good as mine.

I'm not really too keen on any more online-only shooters. I'll stick with R2, KZ2, and games like that to keep my online shooter urges quenched. Then theres LBP. WHY CAN'T I JUST HAVE IT ALREADY :(
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#20 All_that_is_Man
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I think A on GS.EVOLV3

Im thinking 8.3 or so

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#21 VanHelsingBoA64
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Is there even any hype for this game?Zerocrossings

Yeah, A-AA.

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#22 W1NGMAN-
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"No getting around it: This review will soon be inaccurate."

And that pretty much sums up that review.

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#23 hopesfall2own
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"No getting around it: This review will soon be inaccurate."

And that pretty much sums up that review.

W1NGMAN-
I refer you to my earlier post. Pretty pathetic on their part.
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#24 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

"No getting around it: This review will soon be inaccurate."

And that pretty much sums up that review.

hopesfall2own

I refer you to my earlier post. Pretty pathetic on their part.

I don't care, already bought the game and it's fun....they could have just waited for the patch to come out before they posted their review but whatever.

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#25 SolidGame_basic  Online
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They're going to update the score when the issues are fixed.
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#26 strudel420
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By waiting to review it and promising updated reviews they're doing this game quite the favor. Not often you see lifelines get thrown to games like Socom is getting.
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#27 hopesfall2own
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[QUOTE="hopesfall2own"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

"No getting around it: This review will soon be inaccurate."

And that pretty much sums up that review.

W1NGMAN-

I refer you to my earlier post. Pretty pathetic on their part.

I don't care, already bought the game and it's fun....they could have just waited for the patch to come out before they posted their review but whatever.

you act like its acceptable to reneg on reviews based on fixing released problems. Will reviews change their scores on Mercenaries 2 when it gets a patch? What about if Ninja Gaiden 2 fixed its camera and then got bumped to a 9? What if Too Human gets a patch and bumps it to an 8? Give me a break, its unacceptable to release a review saying it doesn't count. :roll:
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#28 ANeuralPathway
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By waiting to review it and promising updated reviews they're doing this game quite the favor. Not often you see lifelines get thrown to games like Socom is getting.strudel420

I think it's mostly because you can see the SOCOMy quality of the game when it actually connects properly , they just didn't plan their server capacity properly for such a fan favorite. I predict a high 8 overall, SOCOM has always been a love it or hate it series IMO, and I'm sure some reviews will reflect that.

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#29 ANeuralPathway
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"][QUOTE="hopesfall2own"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

"No getting around it: This review will soon be inaccurate."

And that pretty much sums up that review.

hopesfall2own

I refer you to my earlier post. Pretty pathetic on their part.

I don't care, already bought the game and it's fun....they could have just waited for the patch to come out before they posted their review but whatever.

you act like its acceptable to reneg on reviews based on fixing released problems. Will reviews change their scores on Mercenaries 2 when it gets a patch? What about if Ninja Gaiden 2 fixed its camera and then got bumped to a 9? What if Too Human gets a patch and bumps it to an 8? Give me a break, its unacceptable to release a review saying it doesn't count. :roll:

You could always start your own review site and run it that way. Don't know if you realized that.

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#30 BioShockOwnz
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It's a 7.0-7.5 for me, so it sounds like 1UP and I are on the same page with this one.
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#31 strudel420
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[QUOTE="strudel420"]By waiting to review it and promising updated reviews they're doing this game quite the favor. Not often you see lifelines get thrown to games like Socom is getting.ANeuralPathway

I think it's mostly because you can see the SOCOMy quality of the game when it actually connects properly , they just didn't plan their server capacity properly for such a fan favorite. I predict a high 8 overall, SOCOM has always been a love it or hate it series IMO, and I'm sure some reviews will reflect that.

I agree fully. When the game actually gets started you can see there is something excellent there.

Just pointing out they could have easily said "Oh the game's broken huh? Too bad you should have thought of that before releasing it." and judged based on what people were paying for it at release. Some sites are trying to show professionalism or maybe understanding is a better word, but hopefully it doesn't start a trend.

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#32 MarloStanfield
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that's a 7 which is a very good score for such a bad looking game
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#33 Rafinator
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Is there even any hype for this game?Zerocrossings

lol what are you joking!? it's SOCOM, the pinnacle of online tactical shooters. anyone who has played socom can tell you that :P

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#34 ANeuralPathway
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[QUOTE="ANeuralPathway"]

[QUOTE="strudel420"]By waiting to review it and promising updated reviews they're doing this game quite the favor. Not often you see lifelines get thrown to games like Socom is getting.strudel420

I think it's mostly because you can see the SOCOMy quality of the game when it actually connects properly , they just didn't plan their server capacity properly for such a fan favorite. I predict a high 8 overall, SOCOM has always been a love it or hate it series IMO, and I'm sure some reviews will reflect that.

I agree fully. When the game actually gets started you can see there is something excellent there.

Just pointing out they could have easily said "Oh the game's broken huh? Too bad you should have thought of that before releasing it." and judged based on what people were paying for it at release. Some sites are trying to show professionalism or maybe understanding is a better word, but hopefully it doesn't start a trend.

I think professionalism is the right word, it doesn't seem very reasonable to judge the game's quality because the developer didn't accurately predict the demand for their game and set up the servers accordingly. If there's a trend to be avoided, hopefully it will be underestimating server demands.

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#35 adman66
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Why should they update their review? No reviews update their reviews when a full retail game is shipped and gets updates/patches, why should this be any different? All Socom had to do was have a functional online system, and it can't even do that. Pretty sad that they are going to reneg on the review cause it wasn't up to their standards. What a joke :roll:hopesfall2own

nah, its ok,

what is sad is when a game site/mag changes thier score after 12 years(a loz:oot review was changed from 10 to 9 around when gta4 was launched)

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#36 ManEatingTree
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"][QUOTE="hopesfall2own"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

"No getting around it: This review will soon be inaccurate."

And that pretty much sums up that review.

hopesfall2own

I refer you to my earlier post. Pretty pathetic on their part.

I don't care, already bought the game and it's fun....they could have just waited for the patch to come out before they posted their review but whatever.

you act like its acceptable to reneg on reviews based on fixing released problems. Will reviews change their scores on Mercenaries 2 when it gets a patch? What about if Ninja Gaiden 2 fixed its camera and then got bumped to a 9? What if Too Human gets a patch and bumps it to an 8? Give me a break, its unacceptable to release a review saying it doesn't count. :roll:



lol man, ive been skimming threw the boards and couldnt help but notice your constant ps3-hating messeges on just about every thread.

Any ways, as a socom player since socom 1, I have to say that this review is respectable. Ive been playing, and the acually gameplay its self is extremly good. There really is just not a game out their that revolves around so much team work and squad base tactics as socom, and ive played and owned every thing lie CS, Halo, Rainbow Six, Cod, ect..

The only problem is that there is some seriouse temporary issues with the servers, and its completly ok for 1up to say they may re-review it. Slant Six had nothing to do with the server problems, it was just because SCEA didnt prep it to have so many players allready. If there was only a couple thousand playing the game would be working just like how Slant Six designed it. It isnt really fair for any one to review an online only game when their is some launch server problems.
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#37 strudel420
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I think professionalism is the right word, it doesn't seem very reasonable to judge the game's quality because the developer didn't accurately predict the demand for their game and set up the servers accordingly. If there's a trend to be avoided, hopefully it will be underestimating server demands.

ANeuralPathway

You're right. Hopefully this is a one time thing that everyone can take note of and won't be excused in the future.

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#38 ReverseCycology
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I will not be surprise if it gets AAA here.

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#39 Toriko42
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Flop confirmed, AA hype I'm guessing 6.0 from GS but knowing GS's hate of bugs mroe like a 3.0
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#40 All_that_is_Man
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Flop confirmed, AA hype I'm guessing 6.0 from GS but knowing GS's hate of bugs mroe like a 3.0Toriko42

anyone who hasn't played the game can't even speak

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#41 BudsMcGreen
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Is there even any hype for this game?Zerocrossings

I think it was hyped maybe AA. But now it's being hyped at best A. IMO.

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#42 Janton3
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i don't get it, why review a game when they say the rating is not going to be accurate in the upcoming weeks
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#43 Janton3
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"][QUOTE="hopesfall2own"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

"No getting around it: This review will soon be inaccurate."

And that pretty much sums up that review.

hopesfall2own

I refer you to my earlier post. Pretty pathetic on their part.

I don't care, already bought the game and it's fun....they could have just waited for the patch to come out before they posted their review but whatever.

you act like its acceptable to reneg on reviews based on fixing released problems. Will reviews change their scores on Mercenaries 2 when it gets a patch? What about if Ninja Gaiden 2 fixed its camera and then got bumped to a 9? What if Too Human gets a patch and bumps it to an 8? Give me a break, its unacceptable to release a review saying it doesn't count. :roll:

yeah it is unacceptable, maybe thats why gamespot and IGN are waiting until all the kinks are worked out rather post an unfinished review just to get hits. But then again this is an online-only game and it appears the only major flaws are with the servers, which games like GTA and Warhawk had problems with when they came out. I am pretty sure most MMORPGs had server bugs and problems on their release but weren't penalized because it was something that isn't the games fault but rather the networks.

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#44 jmdude
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Even though I am considered a Lemming, I feel that isn't fair to review a game with server issues. Let them fix it and then review the game. The old Socoms rocked, and I am pretty sure this one will too (once the lag and server issues are fixed that it).Dr_Snood
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"][QUOTE="hopesfall2own"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

"No getting around it: This review will soon be inaccurate."

And that pretty much sums up that review.

hopesfall2own

I refer you to my earlier post. Pretty pathetic on their part.

I don't care, already bought the game and it's fun....they could have just waited for the patch to come out before they posted their review but whatever.

you act like its acceptable to reneg on reviews based on fixing released problems. Will reviews change their scores on Mercenaries 2 when it gets a patch? What about if Ninja Gaiden 2 fixed its camera and then got bumped to a 9? What if Too Human gets a patch and bumps it to an 8? Give me a break, its unacceptable to release a review saying it doesn't count. :roll:

I can see what you're saying but I think giving them a week to work out server issues is fair. In game bugs like the scope issue and shooting through walls are a much different thing than server problems. They really have no idea what their server demand is going to be and since no one is paying for the servers I'm sure they erred (is that how you spell that?) on the side of caution. I don't want a review that takes into account something that was only an issue for the first 5 days the game was released, how is that useful to anyone (other than lemmings who need ammo)?

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#46 IronSalamander
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i hope everything gets fixed soon.
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#47 nuge004
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I've played it and even if the servers were lag free, it would still probably get 7.5-8.0 at GS, 8.5 at best. It's still pretty fun though, there is just a steep learning curve and it's more fun if you are in a clan or have friends to play with.
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#48 Malta_1980
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got the game last saturday and cant keep away from it... its my first SOCOM console game (since i only played PSP games previously) but though its got some server issues and its not graphically amazing its a great game...

I personally would give it a solid 8/10, maybe 8.5/10 considering its an mp only game and atm there are some server issues... hopefully mags/sites will wait a couple of weeks before posting their final reviews...

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#49 ArisShadows
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I need to open mine from the wrapping, and play it. Damn with Saints Row 2 and Fable 2 here, damn. Kinda happy LBP was pushed back so I could get some time on those three games.
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#50 Nike_Air
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got the game last saturday and cant keep away from it... its my first SOCOM console game (since i only played PSP games previously) but though its got some server issues and its not graphically amazing its a great game...

I personally would give it a solid 8/10, maybe 8.5/10 considering its an mp only game and atm there are some server issues... hopefully mags/sites will wait a couple of weeks before posting their final reviews...

Malta_1980

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