Some assets of Rise of the Tomb Raider are better on 360 than Xbone!!! (Dgital Foundry)

Xbone never fails to surprise us. Never have i seen nor heard a previous generation console outclassing the current gen in certain assets. This is really something.

Xbone'd

That's embarrassing.

Funny how the most talked about games this month and last have been halo and tomb raider by people who claim not to want to play halo or tomb raider.

Bloodborne looks like a last gen game but that didn't stop you from enjoying it.

A new low for the Xbone.

Digital Foundry lied about Fallout 4 on XB1, so don't blame us if we don't trust their findings.

stop your DC right now! 360 is TEN FUCKING YEARS OLD. There's right about zero excuses for the bone to under perform such an old relic with 512mb of RAM. Come on, this is beyond sad

@silversix_: what's sad is people whining about how powerful the xbone is 2 years after everyone already accepted that it's a weak piece of shit. Guess what? The ps4 is also hilariously weak but I don't see you making 20 threads about the 5 minute loading times and 20fps in bloodborne. Get over it already dude. we know, MS can do no right.

Great SW fuel and all, but from what I understand, both versions were handled by different teams? If so, then that's the most obvious answer here.

Tomb Raider is a pretty shit game anyway, Xone owners should be more proud having halo 5, why do they get their panties in a twist over a game which isnt an exclusive to their console and not that spectacular of a game in the first place?!?

The input lag is quite odd, hopefully that's fixed by the time I pick this up. The game obviously looks much better on the Xbox One, but I'm glad to see they put effort into the last-gen version for those what care.

Have you played it? You pretending to be El Tormented and judging games without actually playing?

@mems_1224: i will repeat this one more time. some----assets----are----better-----on----a-----10y old console than a brand spanking new console that MS charged $500 at launch with their "5 billion transistors" bullshit. This is unbelievable. Has nothing to do with current gen being shit, we all know they're weak, but you don't see nor will ever see ps3 assets being better than what's available on the ps4. This is an achievement on its own right lol. The console was supposed to improve with time as every lem been saying since 2013. Instead, you aren't running 360 assets (which is already laughably pathetic) but lower than what's available on a 10y system. What a joke. lmao if they keep the Bone for 5 more years it'll be funny at all the things we'll be seeing on that console.

Wouldn't that be more a dev problem then? Unless you're dumb enough to believe the 360 is just as powerful on ANY level. I'm going to assume you're dumb because your post in this thread alone doesn't support any other claim.

Not just different teams, completely different developers. It's a Forza Horizon 2 Xbox One/360 scenario.

@silversix_: and I will repeat, who gives a ****? Tomb raider looks great on Xbox one. Stop crying about a system you don't even own.

So what are you saying exactly? That the primary (not like the dev in charge of the Xbone version are a bunch of nobodies...) team for this game is less talented than one's in charge of a last gen port? Oh please with your excuses.

No one made threads like this about Bloodborne, a game he's completely obsessed with, even though it looks like a last/current generation hybrid.

Two way streets don't exist here, the guy is obsessed with the Xbox One and anything he doesn't get or can't play he throws a whiny hissy fit..

You ask me a question then answer it on your own. Great question.

They're different developers, things are going to look different, they're going to focus on different things, this isn't hard to figure out.

The game looks great, quit your bitching.

No I said I was going to assume which still leaves the opportunity for you to answer.

Disclaimer: I give no fucks about Tomb Raider and don't even own an Xbox console. I haven't even watched the video because I really just don't care.

But shit happens in development. Juggling thousands of assets at differing LOD's, shit can easily fall through the cracks and it does.

I'm assuming that this video points out some rare instances in which the 360 version has the upper hand, correct? If so, then yeah, that's the obvious answer. Shit just got screwed up in the pipeline.

I mean, what are you trying to suggest here? That the Xbone actually can't handle assets that the 360 can? That would be a hell of a stretch man.

Here's a question for those who think its dev related. How many developers do you see that are producing their main game on current gen and then porting to last gen? Its always ported by an 'inferior/different/smaller' developer because their primary focus is current gen. How many times have we seen the previous generation having better presets (multiplats or exclusives, doesn't matter) than current? Never. We never see this happening and multiplats are almost always developed by a different team when it comes to last gen ports. Excuses in this case are kinda dumb.

So on Xbone it's Lag Raider?

That's new.

So weird how the 360 version is more responsive.

@silversix_:

Then what are you suggesting is the issue here?

This thread is a bit of a stretch. I'm with @ConanTheStoner.

You know what's dumb, threads like this, threads created by cows who are absolutely obsessed with the Xbox One. We don't don't care if there's a rug lacking some AF or there is a massive density of trees with some aliasing, it doesn't matter.

It's like you're trying to convince us of shit we couldn't give a **** about, and at the same time trying to comfort yourself for the games you don't get to play.

You've really become an annoyance, just stop posting man, it's getting cringe worthy...

Yeah, you're making a very strong case for what I said earlier. So, why don't you answer the question. Do you think the 360 is just as or more powerful than the X1 on ANY level? You probably won't answer and to quote the great Dennis Green "you are what we thought you were".

Yep, this thread and the topic creator are just about the worst I've seen on SW so far. Not only embarrassingly petty, but highly annoying as well.

Too bad being the "most talked about" doesn't translate into sales.

lol, then you've seen nothing my friend.

That's the $100 000 000 question. What's happening to the Bone that was supposed to improve with time? We didn't see this last year or in 2013 (with a different dev porting last gen titles or not) but we see this in a highly detailed game (that and the insane jaggies/shimmering this game has). I guess some corners need to be cut, sure, that's fine, this is why we have 720-900p gaming on X1 but going below 360 assets is,,, that's just bad. As i've been saying for a long time, the more advanced the engines get, the more laughable things you'll see on a console that has trouble handling 900p/30fps.

Oooo, a rug.

Just how deep does the rabbit hole go?

For some reason, something tells me that bad news for obviously preferred console hurt your feelings irl... Instead of telling me to stop posting (hell this is my first thread in like a year lol you should be happy) why don't you leave the forum section known as SYSTEM WARS

Have you thought of that?

Bad news? The game looks, plays, runs and is great. The only bad news I can see here is you being butt-frustrated about games you can't play on a system you don't own.

This thread fell apart pretty quick, lol.

@nyadc: i still own my 360, i could be playing that version, the version that has some better presets than your Bone. How does it feel? But i prefer not to because i despised TR2013 as i've mentioned 1 trillion times on this forum.

I couldn't care less, we'll see how that rug looks on your precious PlayStation 4 a year from now lol...

@NathanDrakeSwag: I can't play sales. I'm sorry that's all you have. Its not your fault

If nobody is buying the game it means nobody is playing it. Don't worry though I'm sure PC and PS4 owners will save the game from being a complete commercial flop and give it enough sales to make another sequel possible.

Certainly not below 360 standards i can assure you this much. Would also assure you that it won't be using the abysmal aa used on Xbone. In other words, it will be significantly better but i will ignore it completely because im not into qte's moaning fest shooters.

@NathanDrakeSwag: it's not your fault

"it will be significantly better but i will ignore it completely because im not into qte's moaning fest shooters."

Are you dumb? That's a serious question, how can you say that yet you created this thread lol... You're obviously not completely ignoring it right now... What a massive contradiction...

Are we seriously going to pretend that the Xbox One version isn't a gorgeous fucking game because the 360 had a single higher resolution pillar, and better throw rug on the main menu? Hell if you look at those comparisons, the Xbox One looked objectively better than the 360 version in every way outside of those two things pointed out in both scenes. I can't speak on the latency issue, but the idea that the 360 version of the game is better is ridiculous.

Sweet, I'm glad they're still putting effort into these 360 games. Not everyone has a new console yet. I'll pick this one up for sure.

It seems like there is hiden powahh that has been finally revealed/optimized in xbox 360!

So the only thing i can see that is any way better on xbox 360 is input lag? Xbox 360 720p none of the the high gfx effects..... xbox one 1080p all the gfx effects (some input lag)........so what the hell are talking about

Hmmm yeah funny that...