Some assets of Rise of the Tomb Raider are better on 360 than Xbone!!! (Dgital Foundry)

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#51  Edited By lundy86_4
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@granddogg: TC tried to use it as ammo, and the thread fell flat. All-in-all, it was a lackluster attempt..

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And it looks like what on PS4?

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#53  Edited By Gaming-Planet
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Xbox Done.

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#54 Pray_to_me
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Dear God... No wonder most Xbone games actually look graphically inferior to most PS3 exclusives.

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@lundy86_4 said:

@granddogg: TC tried to use it as ammo, and the thread fell flat. All-in-all, it was a lackluster attempt..

It was a good ammo though.

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x1 is about 3,5 times faster than x360, to its hard to jump from 720p to 1080p and still have all the visual improvements, it looks they had to cut down on some things

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@leandrro said:

x1 is about 3,5 times faster than x360, to its hard to jump from 720p to 1080p and still have all the visual improvements, it looks they had to cut down on some things

It's actually just above 5x as powerful on paper.

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Kek.

Anyone try seeing if "teh cloud" helps? Or maybe DX12...

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This is getting really sad and pathetic. Lems can't deflect thus no matter how hard they try.

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Xbone just got Reeked.

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#62  Edited By svaubel
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People spending so much time this gen arguing about which console is less shit. Lol

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#63  Edited By silversix_
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@nyadc said:
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@nyadc: i still own my 360, i could be playing that version, the version that has some better presets than you Bone. How does it feel?

I couldn't care less, we'll see how that rug looks on your precious PlayStation 4 a year from now lol...

Certainly not below 360 standards i can assure you this much. Would also assure you that it won't be using the abysmal aa used on Xbone. In other words, it will be significantly better but i will ignore it completely because im not into qte's moaning fest shooters.

"it will be significantly better but i will ignore it completely because im not into qte's moaning fest shooters."

Are you dumb? That's a serious question, how can you say that yet you created this thread lol... You're obviously not completely ignoring it right now... What a massive contradiction...

What's your question exactly? Not ignoring the thread but also not staying on it waiting to read your damage control either... I don't like TR and it will look much better on pc AND ps4. Not sure what you're not understanding here. I created the thread because its SW worthy or was i supposed to ignore this juicy news because i don't care about TR? yeah, you're the dumb here. I gave the point of discussion, discuss... in your case, damage control for your beloved Bone.

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#64  Edited By mems_1224
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@svaubel: Lol pretty much. People who argue and whine about which console graphics look better or worse are fucking idiots.

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#65  Edited By NyaDC
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@silversix_ said:
@nyadc said:
@silversix_ said:
@nyadc said:

I couldn't care less, we'll see how that rug looks on your precious PlayStation 4 a year from now lol...

Certainly not below 360 standards i can assure you this much. Would also assure you that it won't be using the abysmal aa used on Xbone. In other words, it will be significantly better but i will ignore it completely because im not into qte's moaning fest shooters.

"it will be significantly better but i will ignore it completely because im not into qte's moaning fest shooters."

Are you dumb? That's a serious question, how can you say that yet you created this thread lol... You're obviously not completely ignoring it right now... What a massive contradiction...

What's your question exactly? Not ignoring the thread but also not staying on it waiting to read your damage control either... I don't like TR and it will look much better on pc AND ps4. Not sure what you're not understanding here. I created the thread because its SW worthy or was i supposed to ignore this juicy news because i don't care about TR? yeah, you're the dumb here. I gave the point of discussion, discuss... in your case, damage control for your beloved Bone.

It's a thread about some AF on a rug and some aliasing...

"juicy news"

kek

The worst part of it all is how you completely disregard how good the game looks as a completed product, it looks fantastic and has character models that closely approach Until Dawn levels in an actual playable game.

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#66  Edited By silversix_
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@nyadc: yes. best part is that you're doing everything you can to damage control it with 'different dev' etc. Xbone is certainly on a roll as of late and you're doing everything in your power to calm the failures.

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#67 mems_1224
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@silversix_: only damage control in this thread is you bruh. Your thread backfired spectacularly. Keep the stupidity coming.

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@nyadc: yes. best part is that you're doing everything you can to damage control it with 'different dev' etc. Xbone is certainly on a roll as of late and you're doing everything in your power to calm the failures.

That's not damage control... Different developers, different development, focus and priorities. You don't think they could have cranked the AF in that tiny ass room where rendering costs are minimal to make that rug look better or something? Give me a break, you're beyond desperate at this point.

What failures? The ones you imagine in your head...

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Funny how the most talked about games this month and last have been halo and tomb raider by people who claim not to want to play halo or tomb raider.

Bloodborne looks like a last gen game but that didn't stop you from enjoying it.

I talk about Tomb Raider because I'm a huge fan and the deal was a disaster from the start. I think every one(including Microsoft and Square Enix) realize this now. I hope Square Enix was well compensated for the damage they have done to an IP that had just received new life.

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@nyadc said:
@silversix_ said:

@nyadc: yes. best part is that you're doing everything you can to damage control it with 'different dev' etc. Xbone is certainly on a roll as of late and you're doing everything in your power to calm the failures.

That's not damage control... Different developers, different development, focus and priorities. You don't think they could have cranked the AF in that tiny ass room where rendering costs are minimal to make that rug look better or something? Give me a break, you're beyond desperate at this point.

What failures? The ones you imagine in your head...

One console is released in 2005. The other in 2013. We're currently at the end of 2015. "Some" assets are better on the system released in 2005. Let that sink in.

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@mems_1224: i will repeat this one more time. some----assets----are----better-----on----a-----10y old console than a brand spanking new console that MS charged $500 at launch with their "5 billion transistors" bullshit. This is unbelievable. Has nothing to do with current gen being shit, we all know they're weak, but you don't see nor will ever see ps3 assets being better than what's available on the ps4. This is an achievement on its own right lol. The console was supposed to improve with time as every lem been saying since 2013. Instead, you aren't running 360 assets (which is already laughably pathetic) but lower than what's available on a 10y system. What a joke. lmao if they keep the Bone for 5 more years it'll be funny at all the things we'll be seeing on that console.

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Those assets aren't stopping me from playing the game.

Go cry somewhere else.

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@StrongBlackVine said:
@mems_1224 said:

Funny how the most talked about games this month and last have been halo and tomb raider by people who claim not to want to play halo or tomb raider.

Bloodborne looks like a last gen game but that didn't stop you from enjoying it.

I talk about Tomb Raider because I'm a huge fan and the deal was a disaster from the start. I think every one(including Microsoft and Square Enix) realize this now. I hope Square Enix was well compensated for the damage they have done to an IP that had just received new life.

What damage? All the people who were going to buy it are still going to buy it regardless of when it's released on whatever platform they own. It's like Street Fighter V, if that eventually does come to Xbox One down the line do you think people on Xbox who wanted it are going to bitch and moan? Of course not, they're going to buy the game, play and enjoy it.

You sound like the Call of Duty petitioners bitching about dedicated servers boycotting the game and then they all buy it.

The dramatics here are a bit much...

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@silversix_ said:

One console is released in 2005. The other in 2013. We're currently at the end of 2015. "Some" assets are better on the system released in 2005. Let that sink in.

You don't seem to know what an asset is.

Anisotropic-filtering on a rug is not an asset, aliasing on a pillar and a dense forested area are not assets, that's post processing....

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@lundy86_4 said:

This thread is a bit of a stretch. I'm with @ConanTheStoner.

You people are so neutral.

+1

I stand with you.

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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@mems_1224 said:

Funny how the most talked about games this month and last have been halo and tomb raider by people who claim not to want to play halo or tomb raider.

Bloodborne looks like a last gen game but that didn't stop you from enjoying it.

Hmmm yeah funny that...

I hope all you Xboner gloating about the deal actually go out and buy the game. I'm expecting a massive commercial flop when the sales info leaks. This IP has never had a big fanbase on Xbox and that hasn't changed.

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#77  Edited By NyaDC
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@StrongBlackVine said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@mems_1224 said:

Funny how the most talked about games this month and last have been halo and tomb raider by people who claim not to want to play halo or tomb raider.

Bloodborne looks like a last gen game but that didn't stop you from enjoying it.

Hmmm yeah funny that...

I hope all you Xboner gloating about the deal actually go out and buy the game. I'm expecting a massive commercial flop when the sales info leaks. This IP has never had a big fanbase on Xbox and that hasn't changed.

Somehow I think we'll all manage to get by, I don't care how much it sells, I care that I get to play it.

You're bitter.

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@mems_1224 said:

@silversix_: only damage control in this thread is you bruh. Your thread backfired spectacularly. Keep the stupidity coming.

About which part should i even damage control for? There's nothing to damage control, i posted a DF video and that's that. Don't even try to ignore or go with the nya route about the different dev lol one console is 10y old, not a couple of years deference. The different dev excuse would've worked if we were comparing Xbone to PS4. Sadly, this is Xbone vs 360 comparison trolololol. Now you may say that i damage control because its popular to say that, you may also add "you mad bruh" at the end of your sentence, that's great n all but it won't change the fact that some things are better on 360 than they're on Xbone,,, IN 2015. Hard life of an X1 owner.

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@nyadc said:
@StrongBlackVine said:
@mems_1224 said:

Funny how the most talked about games this month and last have been halo and tomb raider by people who claim not to want to play halo or tomb raider.

Bloodborne looks like a last gen game but that didn't stop you from enjoying it.

I talk about Tomb Raider because I'm a huge fan and the deal was a disaster from the start. I think every one(including Microsoft and Square Enix) realize this now. I hope Square Enix was well compensated for the damage they have done to an IP that had just received new life.

What damage? All the people who were going to buy it are still going to buy it regardless of when it's released on whatever platform they own. It's like Street Fighter V, if that eventually does come to Xbox One down the line do you think people on Xbox who wanted it are going to bitch and moan? Of course not, they're going to buy the game, play and enjoy it.

You sound like the Call of Duty petitioners bitching about dedicated servers boycotting the game and then they all buy it.

The dramatics here are a bit much...

There are so many other games releasing in 2016 that I would prefer to play over ROTR. I would have probably bought it day one now, but it's a bargain bin/$5 Steam sale in 2016 or later. And no it will not get all those lost sales back. Maybe PC gamers will still be excited because they are used to waiting for ports and the wait will be shorter, but most PS only gamers will will not care about a year old game with all the big games that will release holiday 2016.

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#80  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@nyadc said:
@StrongBlackVine said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@mems_1224 said:

Funny how the most talked about games this month and last have been halo and tomb raider by people who claim not to want to play halo or tomb raider.

Bloodborne looks like a last gen game but that didn't stop you from enjoying it.

Hmmm yeah funny that...

I hope all you Xboner gloating about the deal actually go out and buy the game. I'm expecting a massive commercial flop when the sales info leaks. This IP has never had a big fanbase on Xbox and that hasn't changed.

Somehow I think we'll all manage to get by, I don't care how much it sells, I care that I get to play it.

You're bitter.

Yes I am bitter and I have good reason to be bitter. You would have been playing this game even if the deal had not been it made. It's only purpose was to exclude people. And why..are a significant amount of people going purchase Xbox One over PS4 to play ROTR a year early? No. Or that PC gamers that have no interest in Xbox One would buy it for this?

Any way Microsoft sent this game out to die after they realized they couldn't trick people into thinking it was a real exclusive. SE tried to salvage the situation by announcing the release windows for other platforms. The damage is done though.

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#81 silversix_
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Not surprised this 'news' did that much damage on 'some' folks in here. Not surprised at all.

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#83  Edited By silversix_
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@HavocV3 said:

OP is a babbling retard. Nothing new to see here.

wooow you need to calm down there, guy.

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Actually liar the Xbone version is better than the 360 in every way possible. What a moronic thread topic, lol.

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@acp_45 said:
@lundy86_4 said:

This thread is a bit of a stretch. I'm with @ConanTheStoner.

You people are so neutral.

+1

I stand with you.

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@StrongBlackVine said:
@mems_1224 said:

Funny how the most talked about games this month and last have been halo and tomb raider by people who claim not to want to play halo or tomb raider.

Bloodborne looks like a last gen game but that didn't stop you from enjoying it.

I talk about Tomb Raider because I'm a huge fan and the deal was a disaster from the start. I think every one(including Microsoft and Square Enix) realize this now. I hope Square Enix was well compensated for the damage they have done to an IP that had just received new life.

How was it a disaster from the start? How would it be a disaster now? It scored AAA and is getting good reviews. Further more, since I'm playing it, it's a hella of a fun game. Only an idiot would think there is something wrong with the game.

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#88  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@kingtito said:
@StrongBlackVine said:
@mems_1224 said:

Funny how the most talked about games this month and last have been halo and tomb raider by people who claim not to want to play halo or tomb raider.

Bloodborne looks like a last gen game but that didn't stop you from enjoying it.

I talk about Tomb Raider because I'm a huge fan and the deal was a disaster from the start. I think every one(including Microsoft and Square Enix) realize this now. I hope Square Enix was well compensated for the damage they have done to an IP that had just received new life.

How was it a disaster from the start? How would it be a disaster now? It scored AAA and is getting good reviews. Further more, since I'm playing it, it's a hella of a fun game. Only an idiot would think there is something wrong with the game.

Financially it was stupid. At no point have I ever implied it was a bad game.

Btw ROTR just debuted on PAL charts with 63k sold...down from the reboot's 183k. It was only available a couple of days, but the next week will surely be lower. It's already in the 50s on Amazon's U.S. hourly charts and never cracked the top 10.

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@StrongBlackVine said:
@nyadc said:
@StrongBlackVine said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@mems_1224 said:

Funny how the most talked about games this month and last have been halo and tomb raider by people who claim not to want to play halo or tomb raider.

Bloodborne looks like a last gen game but that didn't stop you from enjoying it.

Hmmm yeah funny that...

I hope all you Xboner gloating about the deal actually go out and buy the game. I'm expecting a massive commercial flop when the sales info leaks. This IP has never had a big fanbase on Xbox and that hasn't changed.

Somehow I think we'll all manage to get by, I don't care how much it sells, I care that I get to play it.

You're bitter.

Yes I am bitter and I have good reason to be bitter. You would have been playing this game even if the deal had not been it made. It's only purpose was to exclude people. And why..are a significant amount of people going purchase Xbox One over PS4 to play ROTR a year early? No. Or that PC gamers that have no interest in Xbox One would buy it for this?

Any way Microsoft sent this game out to die after they realized they couldn't trick people into thinking it was a real exclusive. SE tried to salvage the situation by announcing the release windows for other platforms. The damage is done though.

No you don't. You have NO reason to be bitter only your stupid hurt fanboys feelings are hurt. These deals happen ALLLLLLLL the time and Sony is no saint when it comes to it.

It's purpose was not to exclude people you delusional cow. It was to entice people to buy an X1 to play it. It's not excluding anyone except for the die hard morons that refuse to purchase an X1 simply because they're Sony fanboys. Your delusions are pretty bad.

Exactly how did they try to trick people when it was well known LLLOOOONGGGGG before launch that it was timed? More fanboy delusions?

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#90 kingtito
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@StrongBlackVine said:
@kingtito said:
@StrongBlackVine said:
@mems_1224 said:

Funny how the most talked about games this month and last have been halo and tomb raider by people who claim not to want to play halo or tomb raider.

Bloodborne looks like a last gen game but that didn't stop you from enjoying it.

I talk about Tomb Raider because I'm a huge fan and the deal was a disaster from the start. I think every one(including Microsoft and Square Enix) realize this now. I hope Square Enix was well compensated for the damage they have done to an IP that had just received new life.

How was it a disaster from the start? How would it be a disaster now? It scored AAA and is getting good reviews. Further more, since I'm playing it, it's a hella of a fun game. Only an idiot would think there is something wrong with the game.

Financially it was stupid. At no point have I ever implied it was a bad game.

Btw ROTR just debuted on PAL charts with 63k sold...down from the reboot's 183k. It was only available a couple of days, but the next week will surely be lower. It's already in the 50s on Amazon's U.S. hourly charts and never cracked the top 10.

How would you know? Do you know how much money MS made/lost off this deal?

So you cry because you say they're just releasing it timed exclusive just to exclude people only to bring up sales? Face it, you're butthurt because it's not coming to PS4 until possibly next year. You're butthurt because the game turned out good and you refuse to get an X1 to play it. In other words, you're just butthurt cow.

Get over it. Go play your PS4 or do what most cows do, don't.

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@kingtito said:
@StrongBlackVine said:
@nyadc said:
@StrongBlackVine said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:

Hmmm yeah funny that...

I hope all you Xboner gloating about the deal actually go out and buy the game. I'm expecting a massive commercial flop when the sales info leaks. This IP has never had a big fanbase on Xbox and that hasn't changed.

Somehow I think we'll all manage to get by, I don't care how much it sells, I care that I get to play it.

You're bitter.

Yes I am bitter and I have good reason to be bitter. You would have been playing this game even if the deal had not been it made. It's only purpose was to exclude people. And why..are a significant amount of people going purchase Xbox One over PS4 to play ROTR a year early? No. Or that PC gamers that have no interest in Xbox One would buy it for this?

Any way Microsoft sent this game out to die after they realized they couldn't trick people into thinking it was a real exclusive. SE tried to salvage the situation by announcing the release windows for other platforms. The damage is done though.

No you don't. You have NO reason to be bitter only your stupid hurt fanboys feelings are hurt. These deals happen ALLLLLLLL the time and Sony is no saint when it comes to it.

It's purpose was not to exclude people you delusional cow. It was to entice people to buy an X1 to play it. It's not excluding anyone except for the die hard morons that refuse to purchase an X1 simply because they're Sony fanboys. Your delusions are pretty bad.

Exactly how did they try to trick people when it was well known LLLOOOONGGGGG before launch that it was timed? More fanboy delusions?

Obviously I meant exclude unless they buy an Xbox One. And being a Sony fanboy is the only reason someone would not be interested in buying a Xbox One...who is really delusional here?

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@StrongBlackVine said:
@kingtito said:
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I talk about Tomb Raider because I'm a huge fan and the deal was a disaster from the start. I think every one(including Microsoft and Square Enix) realize this now. I hope Square Enix was well compensated for the damage they have done to an IP that had just received new life.

How was it a disaster from the start? How would it be a disaster now? It scored AAA and is getting good reviews. Further more, since I'm playing it, it's a hella of a fun game. Only an idiot would think there is something wrong with the game.

Financially it was stupid. At no point have I ever implied it was a bad game.

Btw ROTR just debuted on PAL charts with 63k sold...down from the reboot's 183k. It was only available a couple of days, but the next week will surely be lower. It's already in the 50s on Amazon's U.S. hourly charts and never cracked the top 10.

How would you know? Do you know how much money MS made/lost off this deal?

So you cry because you say they're just releasing it timed exclusive just to exclude people only to bring up sales? Face it, you're butthurt because it's not coming to PS4 until possibly next year. You're butthurt because the game turned out good and you refuse to get an X1 to play it. In other words, you're just butthurt cow.

Get over it. Go play your PS4 or do what most cows do, don't.

The deal and the game is a flop(financially). There is no way in Hell either party does the deal if the current results were projected. Only Xbox fanboys thought this deal was good idea. Hell even the reviewers who love this game have mentioned that is deal is huge mistake because of how few people will play it now. Best game that the fewest people played 2015 award.

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@StrongBlackVine: Lol if people don't buy a great game because they didn't get it first then they we're never a fan of the series to begin with. Don't blame MS for making the same deal Sony could have made.

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@StrongBlackVine said:
@kingtito said:
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I hope all you Xboner gloating about the deal actually go out and buy the game. I'm expecting a massive commercial flop when the sales info leaks. This IP has never had a big fanbase on Xbox and that hasn't changed.

Somehow I think we'll all manage to get by, I don't care how much it sells, I care that I get to play it.

You're bitter.

Yes I am bitter and I have good reason to be bitter. You would have been playing this game even if the deal had not been it made. It's only purpose was to exclude people. And why..are a significant amount of people going purchase Xbox One over PS4 to play ROTR a year early? No. Or that PC gamers that have no interest in Xbox One would buy it for this?

Any way Microsoft sent this game out to die after they realized they couldn't trick people into thinking it was a real exclusive. SE tried to salvage the situation by announcing the release windows for other platforms. The damage is done though.

No you don't. You have NO reason to be bitter only your stupid hurt fanboys feelings are hurt. These deals happen ALLLLLLLL the time and Sony is no saint when it comes to it.

It's purpose was not to exclude people you delusional cow. It was to entice people to buy an X1 to play it. It's not excluding anyone except for the die hard morons that refuse to purchase an X1 simply because they're Sony fanboys. Your delusions are pretty bad.

Exactly how did they try to trick people when it was well known LLLOOOONGGGGG before launch that it was timed? More fanboy delusions?

Obviously I meant exclude unless they buy an Xbox One. And being a Sony fanboy is the only reason someone would not be interested in buying a Xbox One...who is really delusional here?

You're being delusional. The ONLY reason MS would pay for exclusivity is to get more people to purchase an X1. If people see H5, GeOW, Forza AND games like TR then perhaps they'll purchase an X1 since consoles are only as good as the games on it.

The only way to know if it was a bad move is to know how much money they made or lost off of it.

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@StrongBlackVine said:
@kingtito said:
@StrongBlackVine said:
@kingtito said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

I talk about Tomb Raider because I'm a huge fan and the deal was a disaster from the start. I think every one(including Microsoft and Square Enix) realize this now. I hope Square Enix was well compensated for the damage they have done to an IP that had just received new life.

How was it a disaster from the start? How would it be a disaster now? It scored AAA and is getting good reviews. Further more, since I'm playing it, it's a hella of a fun game. Only an idiot would think there is something wrong with the game.

Financially it was stupid. At no point have I ever implied it was a bad game.

Btw ROTR just debuted on PAL charts with 63k sold...down from the reboot's 183k. It was only available a couple of days, but the next week will surely be lower. It's already in the 50s on Amazon's U.S. hourly charts and never cracked the top 10.

How would you know? Do you know how much money MS made/lost off this deal?

So you cry because you say they're just releasing it timed exclusive just to exclude people only to bring up sales? Face it, you're butthurt because it's not coming to PS4 until possibly next year. You're butthurt because the game turned out good and you refuse to get an X1 to play it. In other words, you're just butthurt cow.

Get over it. Go play your PS4 or do what most cows do, don't.

The deal and the game is a flop(financially). There is no way in Hell either party does the deal if the current results were projected. Only Xbox fanboys thought this deal was good idea. Hell even the reviewers who love this game have mentioned that is deal is huge mistake because of how few people will play it now. Best game that the fewest people played 2015 award.

Got proof? Do you know how much money MS invested, how much money they've made? You don't so until those figures come out, like most cows, you're just talking out of your ass.

And only Sony fanboys with their heads up Sony's ass think this is a bad deal.

I guess because reviewers say it, it must be true. Hahahahahahaha ummm yeah ok

You stay butthurt amigo

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@mems_1224 said:

@StrongBlackVine: Lol if people don't buy a great game because they didn't get it first then they we're never a fan of the series to begin with. Don't blame MS for making the same deal Sony could have made.

I don't blame Microsoft. I blame Square Enix. Your reboot sell 8.5 million(granted with lots a heavily discounted sales/bundles on last half of that) and you go out and make it timed exclusive to the lowest selling platform? In the end don't think either party will feel they got their money's worth.

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#97  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@kingtito said:
@StrongBlackVine said:
@kingtito said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

Financially it was stupid. At no point have I ever implied it was a bad game.

Btw ROTR just debuted on PAL charts with 63k sold...down from the reboot's 183k. It was only available a couple of days, but the next week will surely be lower. It's already in the 50s on Amazon's U.S. hourly charts and never cracked the top 10.

How would you know? Do you know how much money MS made/lost off this deal?

So you cry because you say they're just releasing it timed exclusive just to exclude people only to bring up sales? Face it, you're butthurt because it's not coming to PS4 until possibly next year. You're butthurt because the game turned out good and you refuse to get an X1 to play it. In other words, you're just butthurt cow.

Get over it. Go play your PS4 or do what most cows do, don't.

The deal and the game is a flop(financially). There is no way in Hell either party does the deal if the current results were projected. Only Xbox fanboys thought this deal was good idea. Hell even the reviewers who love this game have mentioned that is deal is huge mistake because of how few people will play it now. Best game that the fewest people played 2015 award.

Got proof? Do you know how much money MS invested, how much money they've made? You don't so until those figures come out, like most cows, you're just talking out of your ass.

And only Sony fanboys with their heads up Sony's ass think this is a bad deal.

I guess because reviewers say it, it must be true. Hahahahahahaha ummm yeah ok

You stay butthurt amigo

I doubt either party will disclose the terms of the deal so it always be speculation. The only facts available now is that ROTR is an afterthought this holiday season(outside of SW shit like this). Which party benefits from that?

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@StrongBlackVine: do you work for SE, MS, or Sony? No? Then who the **** gives a shit if they "got their money's worth"

You obviously aren't a big tomb raider fan anyways if this dissuades you from getting the game day 1 on ps4. What a sad, petty little boy.

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@StrongBlackVine said:
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Funny how the most talked about games this month and last have been halo and tomb raider by people who claim not to want to play halo or tomb raider.

Bloodborne looks like a last gen game but that didn't stop you from enjoying it.

Hmmm yeah funny that...

I hope all you Xboner gloating about the deal actually go out and buy the game. I'm expecting a massive commercial flop when the sales info leaks. This IP has never had a big fanbase on Xbox and that hasn't changed.

I've never "gloated" about any deal... not sure what you're talking about tbh.

As for it being a commercial flop, at the end of the day that doesn't have any effect on how awesome the game is... which it is! So whatever.

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@mems_1224 said:

@StrongBlackVine: do you work for SE, MS, or Sony? No? Then who the **** gives a shit if they "got their money's worth"

You obviously aren't a big tomb raider fan anyways if this dissuades you from getting the game day 1 on ps4. What a sad, petty little boy.

I'm thinking about getting back into PC gaming so I might not have to wait that long for the PS4 version. And if I did choose not buy as protest to this deal what is wrong showing your disapproval of something by voting with your wallet? I'm not the the biggest TR fan, but I played the first game back from the start and TR2013 made me a huge fan again. I was an active member on the official forums and even submitted entries into fan contests around release of TR2013. That is more than average person who bought the game did. And I bought it twice. A deal like this makes wonder should I give a **** about this franchise. You don't see other publishers pimping out their successful games.

I said before this happened that the two IPs I hope Microsoft doesn't try to moneyhat this generation were Tomb Raider and Mass Effect. They tried to get both, thankfully EA said no.