Some developers want game endings to be DLC?!

So what about renting a game? They don't want people to rent games? That doesn't sound like a good idea.liquidsuns

No renting, no buying used, and no lending the game to friends. The only way to get the end is buy new or pay them extra is what they are talking about, which is bull.

Its like a car company taking out safety features unless you buy it new.

[QUOTE="liquidsuns"]So what about renting a game? They don't want people to rent games? That doesn't sound like a good idea.SpruceCaboose

No renting, no buying used, and no lending the game to friends. The only way to get the end is buy new or pay them extra is what they are talking about, which is bull.

Its like a car company taking out safety features unless you buy it new.

 I'd like to see them try that. The game industry would die rather quickly. Imagine what would happen to the movie industry if they did something like this with dvds, and then include the fact that games are $60 and not $15.

If a company does this, I will more than likely not buy their game.  I already dislike microtransactions, and I'm not exactly made of money to buy every single game.  So a way for me to check out a game is to rent it.  If I enjoy it enough, I'll buy it or more often than not buy the sequel.  Same goes for borrowing and buying used.  If it wasn't for buying used, I would have never played Half-Life 2.  Now I know already that I'll be buying Episode 3 when it releases.  

This may actually hurt their sales too.  It is very easy to go on youtube and check out an ending to a game.  That's what I did for SW: TFU for the Sith ending when I beat the Jedi ending.  So many gamers may boycott the title by buying used or renting and just going online to see the ending. 

If developers want us to buy their games, lower the price of games and make quality titles that make the time worth $60.  If that means lessening graphics, so be it. I'm not going to pay $60 for an eight hour game with little replay value and weird controls/glitches and whatnot. 

This is one reason why I'm sad Banjo isn't doing too well in reviews.  I would love to see this game sell well so that developers may consider the $40 price tag.  

[QUOTE="AlexSays"][QUOTE="superjim42"]

thats not our problem. its the company who sells used games problem.

superjim42

Exactly.

Which is why those companies are wanting to stop this problem.

I don't blame them. I wouldn't want people using my product without paying me either.

yes but the fact stands that not every one can afford brand new £40-50, $50-60 games

used games is a better option for some.

my library consists of half being used games

Games may e cheaper if there was not a used market....Plus do you think they care if you can't buy their game used are not. They don't make any money off of the game used.

And with that being said I bought 7 GC used games this morning. 

They should get over it. Used and rental market has been around in just about every other sector for ages and they arn't complaining. All I hear is "ZOMG I deserve to be rich enough to by 3 Bentlys instead of 1"

[QUOTE="superjim42"]

thats not our problem. its the company who sells used games problem.

AlexSays

Exactly.

Which is why those companies are wanting to stop this problem.

I don't blame them. I wouldn't want people using my product without paying me either.

With your brilliant logic lets start demolishing every second hand market, no more car aftermarkets, no second hand shopping for tools, no homes for sale by owner, hell lets make the typical garage sale a criminal offense while we're at it. 

That's called episodic gaming - we've already seen it successfully implemented in two seasons of Sam and Max, and other developers have jumped on the episodic band-wagon (like Valve). I can't really think of anything wrong with it: with Sam and Max, we got two full games in two years at a fraction of the price we'd pay for normal retail games.

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I think its stupid because 1:

games that rely on MP are not affected.

gamers who cant get on the internet are screwed. 

ReverseCycology

They're already screwed - internet activation is the norm for most PC games.

did you just say buying a used game = piracy?!

:lol:

superjim42

Well, the developers aren't getting any money either way, so to them, they might as well be the same thing.

This may actually hurt their sales too.  It is very easy to go on youtube and check out an ending to a game.  That's what I did for SW: TFU for the Sith ending when I beat the Jedi ending.  So many gamers may boycott the title by buying used or renting and just going online to see the ending. 

Zassimick

Ah, but what if you actually wanted to 'play' the final battle, instead of watching it? You'd have to download the final boss battle - which would be totally free, if you bought it retail.

Amazing how there are some gamers that support this, simply because they love their video games, and think it's perfectly right for developers to do so.

How is your second hand car doing, boys?

[QUOTE="AlexSays"][QUOTE="superjim42"]

thats not our problem. its the company who sells used games problem.

DucksBrains

Exactly.

Which is why those companies are wanting to stop this problem.

I don't blame them. I wouldn't want people using my product without paying me either.

With your brilliant logic lets start demolishing every second hand market, no more car aftermarkets, no second hand shopping for tools, no homes for sale by owner, hell lets make the typical garage sale a criminal offense while we're at it. 

You know that moral story about how a guy bought a duck, chopped and stewed it, and sold it for a higher price because of his ingenuity? That's the fundamentals of second hand sales.

Apparently, a few of our boys on this forum reckon that the original seller needs to see some profits. 

[QUOTE="Zassimick"]

This may actually hurt their sales too.  It is very easy to go on youtube and check out an ending to a game.  That's what I did for SW: TFU for the Sith ending when I beat the Jedi ending.  So many gamers may boycott the title by buying used or renting and just going online to see the ending. 

Planeforger

Ah, but what if you actually wanted to 'play' the final battle, instead of watching it? You'd have to download the final boss battle - which would be totally free, if you bought it retail.

If its a game from a series that I love, like Kingdom Hearts, I will buy it.  Of course, it was never a question of whether I'd buy it or not.  

But if its something like Dead Space, I don't think I'd consider it.  I played halfway through it with a rental and its a fun game, but I would not pay $60 for it.  And if that was the case, I guess I wouldn't even consider renting it meaning I'd buy it when it became cheaper; a lot cheaper.  That, or not even trying that series.  I don't know.  

I don't even see this happening to be honest.  

That is not what he is saying.

They're trying to eliminate the benefits of buying used games, by making the final boss / level / whathaveyou have to be unlocked.

If you buy the game retail, it is unlocked by default.

If you buy it used, or borrow it from somebody, you're going to have to pay for that unlock. 

I have a question that maybe someone could answer.  

If this is such a problem for developers, can they not prohibit the rentals?  Like, refuse to accept rental fees from places like Gamefly and Blockbuster?  If a company doesn't want their game rented out and it is, could they not take some sort of action?  

This does not dismiss the buying of used games I know, but maybe something can be done that route through giving the rights to rent their games out... Or maybe I just don't know what I am talking about.  

fail that would be bad because the game would still cost $60 most likly.... it would jsut suck for people. me and my friends borrow  gams but give each other the game back.

pirates will probly find a way to get the ending in the download. people that live up in the mountians still don't have internet or they r just starting dial up.