Someone give me a link saying,"FPS are better on the PC."

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#1 isaach11687
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You can't. It is all an opinion. I'm sorry to all PC fanboys who think this is a fact. It is true in you opinion, yes, but not in mine and not in others. I prefer my FPS on a console. I love the feeling of a controller in my hand. Yes i could use a controller for the PC but i already have a 360. Please stop with the mods things too. Mods don't make a game better. Add to the experience, yes, but not make it better.
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#2 DA_B0MB
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I always like PC FPS but always found console FPS more enjoyable for me. I guess I just like the controller more than the KB/M.
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#3 foxhound_fox
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Shadowrun had to be "dumbed down" on the PC so the competition between consoles and PC would be more "equal."

Sorry, I don't have a link.
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#4 Danm_999
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You can only go on an opinion.

But opinions are as good as the facts their based on. I happen to think superior visuals, better online, better input devices and user created content makes the genre better.

That's just me though, I'm funny that way. 

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#5 -Sora
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I agree with the first and somewhat agree with the mods thing.
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#6 DA_B0MB
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It is a fact though that when it comes to precision sniping in PC FPSs that it is much better.
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#7 Teuf_
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Okay.

FPS are better on the PC
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#8 -Sora
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It is a fact though that when it comes to precision sniping in PC FPSs that it is much better.DA_B0MB

I hope FPS games start using bullet drop for sniping to make it harder.

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#9 Teuf_
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[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"]It is a fact though that when it comes to precision sniping in PC FPSs that it is much better.-Sora

I hope FPS games start using bullet drop for sniping to make it harder.

Battlefield 2 has bullet-drop.  2142 also has bullet drop, but its less pronounced due to more futuristic weaponry. 

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It is a fact though that when it comes to precision sniping in PC FPSs that it is much better.DA_B0MB

Agreed. But what makes that a good thing. Could be bad, ya know? 

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#11 Eddie-Vedder
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Are you kidding me? I´m a console gamer, my pc is old thats why I don´y play many games on it but fps´s are much better for pc, much better control a lot more natural, I love playing them on console but it´s not the same thing.
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#12 purplemidgets
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htt://www.fpsarebetteronthepc.com
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#13 cobrax75
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heres your proof.

 

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/782/782217p2.html

 

 "Any self respecting gamer knows that the mouse and keyboard is an unbeatable combination for first person shooters. Controller freaks can defend their chosen weapon until they're blue in the thumbs, but to those of us who are comfortable with both methods of control, there is no arguing - mouse and keyboard wins every time."

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#14 MantiCore2K8
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Okay.

FPS are better on the PC
Teufelhuhn

LOL!

But, seriously, first-person shooters are better on PC because of the superior handling.  Thirs-erson shooters such as MGS, Gears, etc, would be better on a console because of the moving around and switching back and forth quickly between inventory items, etc.

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#15 isaach11687
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You can only go on an opinion.

But opinions are as good as the facts their based on. I happen to think superior visuals, better online, better input devices and user created content makes the genre better.

That's just me though, I'm funny that way.

Danm_999

I believe better online is on opinion. Define inpute devices. Maybe i'm just not understanding the statement. User created content does add to the genre. But the game is defined by what comes in the package.

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I hope FPS games start using bullet drop for sniping to make it harder.-Sora


Red Orchestra. Forgotten Hope. Day of Defeat: Source.

Those are the big three that come to mind when I think "bullet drop." It is not as pronounced in DoDS due to the small maps but I believe it is there.

And has Teuf has already mentioned, BF2 and BF2142.

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#17 isaach11687
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htt://www.fpsarebetteronthepc.compurplemidgets

Firefox won't let me open it. 

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#18 foxhound_fox
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I believe better online is on opinion. Define inpute devices. Maybe i'm just not understanding the statement. User created content does add to the genre. But the game is defined by what comes in the package.isaach11687


Paying for peer-to-peer matchmaking or free dedicated servers? I wonder which one is better... >_>
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#19 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"]

You can only go on an opinion.

But opinions are as good as the facts their based on. I happen to think superior visuals, better online, better input devices and user created content makes the genre better.

That's just me though, I'm funny that way.

isaach11687

I believe better online is on opinion. Define inpute devices. Maybe i'm just not understanding the statement. User created content does add to the genre. But the game is defined by what comes in the package.

I don't believe there's much room for opinion in online. Online on PC provides everything XBL has, and more, and it's free.

But input devices I mean KB/M. Which this topic has established are better tools.

And mods do add to the genre. Look at Counter Strike. They both alter existing content, and add new content. A game is not just defined by what's in the package, it's by what can be done with it. Oblivion comes with the Construction Set, so we obviously count that aspect. 

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#20 isaach11687
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heres your proof.

 

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/782/782217p2.html

 

"Any self respecting gamer knows that the mouse and keyboard is an unbeatable combination for first person shooters. Controller freaks can defend their chosen weapon until they're blue in the thumbs, but to those of us who are comfortable with both methods of control, there is no arguing - mouse and keyboard wins every time."

cobrax75

I guess that means I'm not a self respecting gamer. I prefer controllers. 

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#21 purplemidgets
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[QUOTE="purplemidgets"]htt://www.fpsarebetteronthepc.comisaach11687

Firefox won't let me open it.

 

Oh, sorry. Here.

htt://www.fpsarebetteronthepc.com

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#22 -Sora
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[QUOTE="-Sora"]

[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"]It is a fact though that when it comes to precision sniping in PC FPSs that it is much better.Teufelhuhn

I hope FPS games start using bullet drop for sniping to make it harder.

Battlefield 2 has bullet-drop.  2142 also has bullet drop, but its less pronounced due to more futuristic weaponry. 

 

Yea i know,

Just if you gonna have a game with a sniper that is one hit kill, make it hard to do, unlike halo and gears

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#23 Redfingers
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[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"]It is a fact though that when it comes to precision sniping in PC FPSs that it is much better.-Sora

I hope FPS games start using bullet drop for sniping to make it harder.

It's called Red Orchestra: Ostfront. Every weapon has bullet drop. And you've got to lead targets substantially. It's gotten mixed reviews, and it takes a while to get into, but it's an amazing game with a lot of depth. And it's only 20 bucks or something. PC...check it out via Steam. 

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#24 isaach11687
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[QUOTE="isaach11687"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]

You can only go on an opinion.

But opinions are as good as the facts their based on. I happen to think superior visuals, better online, better input devices and user created content makes the genre better.

That's just me though, I'm funny that way.

Danm_999

I believe better online is on opinion. Define inpute devices. Maybe i'm just not understanding the statement. User created content does add to the genre. But the game is defined by what comes in the package.

I don't believe there's much room for opinion in online. Online on PC provides everything XBL has, and more, and it's free.

But input devices I mean KB/M. Which this topic has established are better tools.

And mods do add to the genre. Look at Counter Strike. They both alter existing content, and add new content. A game is not just defined by what's in the package, it's by what can be done with it. Oblivion comes with the Construction Set, so we obviously count that aspect.

The whole perpose of this thread to let people see that saying FPS is better on the PC is an opinion and will never be a fact. Of course mods add to the genre and experience of a game, but most people don't have time for that. I enjoy having a console to play my FPS on just because i know people who own them. The community is why people play online games. My community lies in my friends. So i prefer consoles and controllers. Any way i hate mouse and keyboards. 

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#25 cobrax75
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Alliance: The Silent War....is supposed to have revolutionary bullet drop where trajectary is calculated by the type of round, and bullets do less damage as they slow down....

 

trajectary is different for every type of round, and there are 215 different guns in the game....

there are so many guns in fact, that they have a filter syste just to choose one. 

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Shadowrun had to be "dumbed down" on the PC so the competition between consoles and PC would be more "equal."

Sorry, I don't have a link.
foxhound_fox

What about it was 'dumbed down?' Graphics? Last time I checked there was a point in time where 360 was more powerful than any PC on the market, I fail to see how PCs are doing anything far beyond a console reach graphically, even with in light of Crysis. Controls? I don't see where the 'dumbed down'-ness comes into play as that is a personal preference. If KB/M is so much more "l33t" then you should have no problem busting console gamers heads with it when Shadowrun comes out, so it being 'dumbed down' is irrelevant to your superiority claims:P

You can only go on an opinion.

But opinions are as good as the facts their based on. I happen to think superior visuals, better online, better input devices and user created content makes the genre better.

That's just me though, I'm funny that way. 

Danm_999

"Opinions are as good as the facts their based on" You can spin that whichever way you want to, wether someone prefers KB/M over a gamepad is a preference and never a fact! Superior visuals can be played many ways to. Shadow of Colosus, Okami, Majora's Mask & Orcarina of Time for instance is said to have some of the best art of any game yet they were not the best their respective generation had to offer graphically.

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#27 Redfingers
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It's extremely hard to use any of the weapons in RO....though it takes only 3 bullets or less to kill someone...typically 1 with a high-caliber round such as a bolt-action rifle or scoped rifle (but you have to hit them in the chest, gut, or head). All the guns have massive recoil, and there are no crosshairs. Again, you have to lead and compensate for bullet drop. Even sniping is extremely hard. But cover is your friend. There are no "Halo" moments.
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#28 Redfingers
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Crysis destroys anything on the console market with 0 doubt. Take off your Fanboy glasses. Additionally, 360 was never more powerful than PCs. Never. Literally, the day it came out, it was stomped.
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#29 isaach11687
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[QUOTE="isaach11687"]

 

[QUOTE="purplemidgets"]htt://www.fpsarebetteronthepc.compurplemidgets

Firefox won't let me open it.

 

Oh, sorry. Here.

htt://www.fpsarebetteronthepc.com

"Firefox does not know how to open up the link because it has the wrong protocol."

I'm dumb-founded. 

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What about it was 'dumbed down?' Graphics? Last time I checked there was a point in time where 360 was more powerful than any PC on the market, I fail to see how PCs are doing anything far beyond a console reach graphically, even with in light of Crysis. Controls? I don't see where the 'dumbed down'-ness comes into play as that is a personal preference. If KB/M is so much more "l33t" then you should have no problem busting console gamers heads with it when Shadowrun comes out, so it being 'dumbed down' is irrelevant to your superiority claims:PPro_wrestler


I believe the PC version for multiplayer between 360 and Windows is given a "shot randomization" to lower accuracy to make the competition "more fair."
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#31 purplemidgets
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[quote="purplemidgets"]

 

Oh, sorry. Here.

http://www.fpsarebetteronthepc.com

isaach11687

"Firefox does not know how to open up the link because it has the wrong protocol."

I'm dumb-founded.

 

How I managed to leave out the P twice escapes me!

There ya go buddy!

 

 

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#32 isaach11687
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Crysis destroys anything on the console market with 0 doubt. Take off your Fanboy glasses. Additionally, 360 was never more powerful than PCs. Never. Literally, the day it came out, it was stomped.Redfingers

How did this thread evolve into a graphics war? 

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#33 MTBare
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Seeing that you're in love with halo you've probably never played any of the superior FPS that are on PC. Halo is definitely the best FPS on all consoles, but IMO it doesn't stand up against UT04. Come on, I'm a 360 fanboy and I know PC FPS is 10x better than console FPS.

But consoles do have the splitscreen over PC's, that is one thing I like.

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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]What about it was 'dumbed down?' Graphics? Last time I checked there was a point in time where 360 was more powerful than any PC on the market, I fail to see how PCs are doing anything far beyond a console reach graphically, even with in light of Crysis. Controls? I don't see where the 'dumbed down'-ness comes into play as that is a personal preference. If KB/M is so much more "l33t" then you should have no problem busting console gamers heads with it when Shadowrun comes out, so it being 'dumbed down' is irrelevant to your superiority claims:Pfoxhound_fox


I believe the PC version for multiplayer between 360 and Windows is given a "shot randomization" to lower accuracy to make the competition "more fair."

 

It uses a recticle the size of a penny...and bassiclly your bullet goes "somewhere" in that area. 

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#35 isaach11687
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[QUOTE="isaach11687"][quote="purplemidgets"]

 

Oh, sorry. Here.

http://www.fpsarebetteronthepc.com

purplemidgets

"Firefox does not know how to open up the link because it has the wrong protocol."

I'm dumb-founded.

 

How I managed to leave out the P twice escapes me!

There ya go buddy!

 

 

Haha. Now it says the server cannot be found. Just tell me what it says. I'll believe you. 

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#36 purplemidgets
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Haha. Now it says the server cannot be found. Just tell me what it says. I'll believe you.

isaach11687

 

It says "FPS are better on the PC" 

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#37 isaach11687
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 Come on, I'm a 360 fanboy and I know PC FPS is 10x better than console FPS.

 

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Opinion. 

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[QUOTE="purplemidgets"][QUOTE="isaach11687"][quote="purplemidgets"]

 

Oh, sorry. Here.

http://www.fpsarebetteronthepc.com

isaach11687

"Firefox does not know how to open up the link because it has the wrong protocol."

I'm dumb-founded.

 

How I managed to leave out the P twice escapes me!

There ya go buddy!

 

 

Haha. Now it says the server cannot be found. Just tell me what it says. I'll believe you.

Your a Fool. 

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#39 jwcyclone15
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[QUOTE="MTBare"]

Come on, I'm a 360 fanboy and I know PC FPS is 10x better than console FPS.

 

isaach11687

Opinion.

Hey, what makes FPS better on the 360? 

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#40 isaach11687
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[QUOTE="isaach11687"]

Haha. Now it says the server cannot be found. Just tell me what it says. I'll believe you.

purplemidgets

 

It says "FPS are better on the PC"

.............lol.. 

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#41 deactivated-5ebd39d683340
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you mean mouse and keyboard are better for fps, because i think in the next genaration of consoles there could be a big chance of mouse+keyboard support. Anyways, from a far away distance it is better yes, it's better for aiming. but when the battle comes up close, mmm, there's where the controller might get the advantage. I find console gaming more fun, not because of the aiming or **** but because of the community. I also don't see two guys behind a pc playing split screen with eachother etc...
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#42 MTBare
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[QUOTE="MTBare"]

Come on, I'm a 360 fanboy and I know PC FPS is 10x better than console FPS.

 

isaach11687

Opinion.

Yes it's an opinion, but it's an opinion shared by the majority. It's like my saying big rigs is 100x better than halo 3, you say it's not.. O RLY?! OPINION! 

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Any decent player with a Mouse will own a decent player with a controller.
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#44 isaach11687
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[QUOTE="isaach11687"][QUOTE="MTBare"]

Come on, I'm a 360 fanboy and I know PC FPS is 10x better than console FPS.

 

jwcyclone15

Opinion.

Hey, what makes FPS better on the 360?

Answer: I have a better experience.

Question: Would you like to know why i have a better experience? 

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#45 jwcyclone15
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[QUOTE="jwcyclone15"][QUOTE="isaach11687"][QUOTE="MTBare"]

Come on, I'm a 360 fanboy and I know PC FPS is 10x better than console FPS.

 

isaach11687

Opinion.

Hey, what makes FPS better on the 360?

Answer: I have a better experience.

Question: Would you like to know why i have a better experience?

Not Really.

Thats an OPINION!!!! TEH OMG!!!

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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="isaach11687"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]

You can only go on an opinion.

But opinions are as good as the facts their based on. I happen to think superior visuals, better online, better input devices and user created content makes the genre better.

That's just me though, I'm funny that way.

isaach11687

I believe better online is on opinion. Define inpute devices. Maybe i'm just not understanding the statement. User created content does add to the genre. But the game is defined by what comes in the package.

I don't believe there's much room for opinion in online. Online on PC provides everything XBL has, and more, and it's free.

But input devices I mean KB/M. Which this topic has established are better tools.

And mods do add to the genre. Look at Counter Strike. They both alter existing content, and add new content. A game is not just defined by what's in the package, it's by what can be done with it. Oblivion comes with the Construction Set, so we obviously count that aspect.

The whole perpose of this thread to let people see that saying FPS is better on the PC is an opinion and will never be a fact. Of course mods add to the genre and experience of a game, but most people don't have time for that. I enjoy having a console to play my FPS on just because i know people who own them. The community is why people play online games. My community lies in my friends. So i prefer consoles and controllers. Any way i hate mouse and keyboards.

So basically you are so far in denial that you have ignored the very links you wanted stating FPS are better on the PC? There may not be any scientific studies done on this to illustrate it as fact, but I think we may have to disqualify your opinion since:

Any way i hate mouse and keyboards.

isaach11687

which was far from the in-depth and compelling answers most of the users reading your thread provided.

People don't have time for mods? If you don't have time for a mod then you don't have time for a game to begin with. I think you'll not find too many PC users who have tried out at least one good free mod and shared it with their friends in some good free online play :)

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#47 isaach11687
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[QUOTE="isaach11687"][QUOTE="MTBare"]

Come on, I'm a 360 fanboy and I know PC FPS is 10x better than console FPS.

 

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Opinion.

Yes it's an opinion, but it's an opinion shared by the majority. It's like my saying big rigs is 100x better than halo 3, you say it's not.. O RLY?! OPINION!

Again, that would be your opinion. It wouldn't be wrong, but it wouldn't be right. To someone, that game could be better then Halo, meaning the statement, "Halo is way better then Big Rigs" would not be a fact. I know it sounds ridculous, but it is true. 

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#48 coolmonkeykid
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mods do make a game better, its fact. BECAUSE THEY ARE FREE.
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#49 isaach11687
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[QUOTE="isaach11687"][QUOTE="jwcyclone15"][QUOTE="isaach11687"][QUOTE="MTBare"]

Come on, I'm a 360 fanboy and I know PC FPS is 10x better than console FPS.

 

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Opinion.

Hey, what makes FPS better on the 360?

Answer: I have a better experience.

Question: Would you like to know why i have a better experience?

Not Really.

Thats an OPINION!!!! TEH OMG!!!

Yay! You understand my thread! 

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#50 -The-G-Man-
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[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"]It is a fact though that when it comes to precision sniping in PC FPSs that it is much better.isaach11687

Agreed. But what makes that a good thing. Could be bad, ya know? 

More accuracy when playing an FPS is bad? :?