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For months prior to the release of the PS3, and even afterwards, I had to listen to fanboys bash the 360 because "all the 360 has are shooters, western sandbox games, and sports games". Even my own girlfriend was spouting this piece of misinformation. Then the PS3 comes out, and what are the three games every PS3 fanboy raves about? Resistance (an FPS), Motorstorm (a motorsport game), and Oblivion (an open "western" RPG).

It just seems ironic that we let the PS3 fanboys who kept bashing the 360 owners get away with this. As far as the PS3 owners who aren't fanboys, hey, more power to you. I also find it ironic that the 360 will beat the PS3 to having solid JRPGs, with Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, and Lost Odyssey this year. It just doesn't feel like a Playstation without Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, and a handful of tactical JRPGs.

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#2 SecretPolice

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You sir have nailed it ! S.W. is very much like politics; liars and fools everywhere who try to manipulate the public under false pretence.

My 2 Cents

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I'm glad to know that the opinions of a few represent everyone.

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I'm glad to know that the opinions of a few represent everyone.TekkenMaster606

A "few"?

I think there were more than just a few...

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#5 OhhSnap50893

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You know, he's right. In early 06 I said the same things (I still think that the 360 has too many sports and FPS games, but I've grown to like FPS's and have always loved my sports), but the cows were the worst. And now, they've got the exact same thing.

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For months prior to the release of the PS3, and even afterwards, I had to listen to fanboys bash the 360 because "all the 360 has are shooters, western sandbox games, and sports games". Even my own girlfriend was spouting this piece of misinformation. Then the PS3 comes out, and what are the three games every PS3 fanboy raves about? Resistance (an FPS), Motorstorm (a motorsport game), and Oblivion (an open "western" RPG).

It just seems ironic that we let the PS3 fanboys who kept bashing the 360 owners get away with this. As far as the PS3 owners who aren't fanboys, hey, more power to you. I also find it ironic that the 360 will beat the PS3 to having solid JRPGs, with Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, and Lost Odyssey this year. It just doesn't feel like a Playstation without Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, and a handful of tactical JRPGs.
subrosian

Give it time. The Playstation 2 wasn't loaded with JRPGs for a while.

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Luckily as time goes on and judging from the Xbox 360 lineup in the near future those false statements will look even more ridiculous then they currently sound.

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I hear more PS3 bashing than ne thing on these boards ne more. But to me in two yrs it will a different story in the console race. I think Wii will slow down in sales and PS3/360 will be really close in sales. You will probably start to see less multiplats and more exlusives on each and a stable online plan for PS3 and 360 but not the Wii. I just dont see Nintendo doing good there.

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Does anybody actually care what cows say anymore?

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#10 Private_Vegas

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I've heard that bashing, but it wasn't from just PS3 fanboys, but rather a conglomerate of jerks, that happened to include some PS3 fanboys. Said Fanboys have in fact self-owned themselves, but hey everyone owns themselves now and again. For Sont fans out reading this I don't mean to lump everyone in to the one category. I use Fanboys in the most specific, offencive way possible. The uber fans with no respect. You've seen them, every console has them. They self-own more than the average poster.

Don't let it bother you Subrosian. They have to grow up eventually.

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For months prior to the release of the PS3, and even afterwards, I had to listen to fanboys bash the 360 because "all the 360 has are shooters, western sandbox games, and sports games". Even my own girlfriend was spouting this piece of misinformation. Then the PS3 comes out, and what are the three games every PS3 fanboy raves about? Resistance (an FPS), Motorstorm (a motorsport game), and Oblivion (an open "western" RPG).

It just seems ironic that we let the PS3 fanboys who kept bashing the 360 owners get away with this. As far as the PS3 owners who aren't fanboys, hey, more power to you. I also find it ironic that the 360 will beat the PS3 to having solid JRPGs, with Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, and Lost Odyssey this year. It just doesn't feel like a Playstation without Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, and a handful of tactical JRPGs.
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Because you just named the only three games they have....;)

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Now this is the motto of SW.......

Bash what you don't have until you get it......then praise it up and down.

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For months prior to the release of the PS3, and even afterwards, I had to listen to fanboys bash the 360 because "all the 360 has are shooters, western sandbox games, and sports games". Even my own girlfriend was spouting this piece of misinformation. Then the PS3 comes out, and what are the three games every PS3 fanboy raves about? Resistance (an FPS), Motorstorm (a motorsport game), and Oblivion (an open "western" RPG).

It just seems ironic that we let the PS3 fanboys who kept bashing the 360 owners get away with this. As far as the PS3 owners who aren't fanboys, hey, more power to you. I also find it ironic that the 360 will beat the PS3 to having solid JRPGs, with Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, and Lost Odyssey this year. It just doesn't feel like a Playstation without Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, and a handful of tactical JRPGs.
subrosian

How can you say solid JRPGs when they havent even released in the U.S. and Blue Dragon in Japan hardly made a ripple. There is alot of irony in SW, like: All the MS fans who quoted the PC dev. that said the PS3 should do a do-over and now the 360 is the one rereleasing a new model of the 360 with all the features it bashed the PS3 for including the price tag. Or all the MS fans that raved about MGS 4 going to the 360 and starting every arguement about the PS3 losing exclusives with "MGS 4 coming next". Or what about all the MS fans that raved about Oblivion never making an appearance on the PS3 and it was announced as well as all the Praise NG got until NGS came out for the PS3. Then everyone raves that NGS is not worth a repurchase even though these people bought NGB with even fewer additions. If you go buy what fanboys claim then you will just keep going in circles. The point is every console has their fanboys.

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I'm glad to know that the opinions of a few represent everyone.TekkenMaster606

In system wars, yes. I've seen Xbox 360 owners generalized as fourteen year olds screaming obscenities into their headsets while playing nothing but Halo 2 for hours on end by the vast majority of PS3 fanboys. I've found that *amazing* given the Xbox 360 setup threads - those fourteen year old kids are making bank, what with their 1080p plasma screens, denon, velodyne, and yamaha sound system components, and industrial power cleaners.

I hear more PS3 bashing than ne thing on these boards ne more. But to me in two yrs it will a different story in the console race. I think Wii will slow down in sales and PS3/360 will be really close in sales. You will probably start to see less multiplats and more exlusives on each and a stable online plan for PS3 and 360 but not the Wii. I just dont see Nintendo doing good there.mgszelda1

I hate this generalization as well - I don't get what the magical driving force behind this PS3 upsurge is going to be. The system might start selling as a cheap Blu-Ray player, but like the PSP, the attach rate just doesn't seem to indicate that it's the place for developers to focus all of their projects. It's not becoming the next PS2, the situation is different, and without that "omg 95% of the games are on this system" effect going for it, why would anyone uninterested in Blu-Ray pay the PS3s whopping price tag? As far as Blu-Ray driving it, I think we're going to see the players come down in price below the PS3, players will hit the magic sub-$300 arena well before a PS3 does, that's a given simply because a stand-alone player doesn't have to have the high-speed RAM, cell processor, GPU, or hard drive that the PS3 has built in. You can never make a device with *more* stuff in it cheaper than device with less, it's just common sense (it's like trying to make an electric toothbrush cheaper than the old fashioned plastic handle with bristles). Sony pulling the $500 PS3 model from the market indicates to me that they're actually worried about people buying this solely as a cheap Blu-Ray player - someone who buys movies, especially non-Sony Blu-Ray movies probably doesn't generate as much profit for them as someone who buys the system for gaming. Maybe they were just taking too much of a loss on it, and people aren't buying enough games to subsidize their loss? As far as the Wii goes, I don't know. The DS gained a "wow, 95% of the games are on this" kind of effect that really hurt the PSP, and the PSP attach rate has stayed so low that developers don't seem to focus a lot of games on it. Actually the PSP is a darn shame - if it had maybe double the battery life... it's just a shame that a screen like that went to waste... But I can see how people can say there are scenarios where the Wii could stop selling - simply hits the point where everyone in the casual market gets bored of the tech, and they're left with only the real gamers picking up games, however that would definitely drive out the third parties. I hate to say it doesn't matter - but I don't think it does - Nintendo is making a profit on *everything* they do, at the end of the day, if the only sell twenty million Wiis, it won't hurt their company.

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It's not the 360's fault that Shooters, Sandbox games and sports titles get more sales than JRPG's, fighting games and platformers....

Cows act like Microsoft is forcing developers to put only shooters and sports titles on their system...

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[QUOTE="subrosian"]
For months prior to the release of the PS3, and even afterwards, I had to listen to fanboys bash the 360 because "all the 360 has are shooters, western sandbox games, and sports games". Even my own girlfriend was spouting this piece of misinformation. Then the PS3 comes out, and what are the three games every PS3 fanboy raves about? Resistance (an FPS), Motorstorm (a motorsport game), and Oblivion (an open "western" RPG).

It just seems ironic that we let the PS3 fanboys who kept bashing the 360 owners get away with this. As far as the PS3 owners who aren't fanboys, hey, more power to you. I also find it ironic that the 360 will beat the PS3 to having solid JRPGs, with Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, and Lost Odyssey this year. It just doesn't feel like a Playstation without Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, and a handful of tactical JRPGs.
Javy03

How can you say solid JRPGs when they havent even released in the U.S. and Blue Dragon in Japan hardly made a ripple. There is alot of irony in SW, like: All the MS fans who quoted the PC dev. that said the PS3 should do a do-over and now the 360 is the one rereleasing a new model of the 360 with all the features it bashed the PS3 for including the price tag. Or all the MS fans that raved about MGS 4 going to the 360 and starting every arguement about the PS3 losing exclusives with "MGS 4 coming next". Or what about all the MS fans that raved about Oblivion never making an appearance on the PS3 and it was announced as well as all the Praise NG got until NGS came out for the PS3. Then everyone raves that NGS is not worth a repurchase even though these people bought NGB with even fewer additions. If you go buy what fanboys claim then you will just keep going in circles. The point is every console has their fanboys.

Everything you just complained about the cows are equally guilty of...

1. The 360 launch line up stinksWhen the PS3 launched it was suddenly expected of everyone to understand that launch line ups suck.

2. Ninja Gaiden and Oblivion are terrible...the PS3 gets the ports/upgraded versions suddenly they are fantastic games that everyone should love..(True dat)

3. MS lies, Sony never does

4. Rumble is overrated and last gen. Now rumble is next gen now that Sony is able to use it legally.

5. Achievements suck but trophies are better

I could go on and on. Please do not act like cows aren't as hypocritical as any other fanboy.

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[QUOTE="subrosian"]
For months prior to the release of the PS3, and even afterwards, I had to listen to fanboys bash the 360 because "all the 360 has are shooters, western sandbox games, and sports games". Even my own girlfriend was spouting this piece of misinformation. Then the PS3 comes out, and what are the three games every PS3 fanboy raves about? Resistance (an FPS), Motorstorm (a motorsport game), and Oblivion (an open "western" RPG).
It just seems ironic that we let the PS3 fanboys who kept bashing the 360 owners get away with this. As far as the PS3 owners who aren't fanboys, hey, more power to you. I also find it ironic that the 360 will beat the PS3 to having solid JRPGs, with Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, and Lost Odyssey this year. It just doesn't feel like a Playstation without Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, and a handful of tactical JRPGs.
Javy03

How can you say solid JRPGs when they havent even released in the U.S. and Blue Dragon in Japan hardly made a ripple. There is alot of irony in SW, like: All the MS fans who quoted the PC dev. that said the PS3 should do a do-over and now the 360 is the one rereleasing a new model of the 360 with all the features it bashed the PS3 for including the price tag. Or all the MS fans that raved about MGS 4 going to the 360 and starting every arguement about the PS3 losing exclusives with "MGS 4 coming next". Or what about all the MS fans that raved about Oblivion never making an appearance on the PS3 and it was announced as well as all the Praise NG got until NGS came out for the PS3. Then everyone raves that NGS is not worth a repurchase even though these people bought NGB with even fewer additions. If you go buy what fanboys claim then you will just keep going in circles. The point is every console has their fanboys.

I would probably be labeled as a 360 fan - certainly not a fan of everything Microsoft has done, but then all companies have made mistakes. But I will be the first to admit their are faults on all of the next generation systems. If I though the 360 was perfect, I would already own one. I'll be buying the Elite because, quite frankly, I don't think there's anything wrong with fixing your mistakes. I don't think MGS4 will wind up on the 360, I do think that some kind of FFXIII content will wind up on the 360, as they are building it as a multiple game implementation. As far as Oblivion is concerned, without the improved level up mod (always +5 to improved stats, rather than the existing system) the gameplay becomes very meta-game, tedious "I need to sneak for ten minutes before I can use my sword again" - which is frustrating. So PC is where Oblivion is at. However I guess I'm more bothered by the Sony fanboy-ism because it exists strongly in spite of Sony's failure to make its products live up to their potential. The PSP could have blown the DS out of the water, it didn't, I wanted it to, I waited for it to become something great, and it never did. The PS3, when I saw it at E3 2005, was *god* - there was no question, Sony had won the war, Blu-Ray was the future, and I could not wait to get one. Now just two years later I'm starring at a system that's beautifully made (watch the disassembly videos, everything inside fits perfectly) but has basic mistakes, such as the lack of a scalar chip, or the general game shortage that won't truly be gone until mid-2008. Microsoft gets called on every one of its mistakes - we have stickies for Broken 360s in their forums... but Sony hasn't been called since the PSP to account for how they can keep messing up. I guess I just wish I could see one Sony fanboy go "y'know, this is lame, Sony messed up" - because maybe, just maybe, they would start becoming competitive again. I don't want to see them relegated - we're watching Microsoft and Nintendo rake in profits that would have stayed in our (the consumers) pockets if Sony could have put more pressure on them. We didn't get our first 360 price cut this spring because Sony simply failed to be a real threat.

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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]I'm glad to know that the opinions of a few represent everyone.subrosian

In system wars, yes. I've seen Xbox 360 owners generalized as fourteen year olds screaming obscenities into their headsets while playing nothing but Halo 2 for hours on end by the vast majority of PS3 fanboys. I've found that *amazing* given the Xbox 360 setup threads - those fourteen year old kids are making bank, what with their 1080p plasma screens, denon, velodyne, and yamaha sound system components, and industrial power cleaners.

I hear more PS3 bashing than ne thing on these boards ne more. But to me in two yrs it will a different story in the console race. I think Wii will slow down in sales and PS3/360 will be really close in sales. You will probably start to see less multiplats and more exlusives on each and a stable online plan for PS3 and 360 but not the Wii. I just dont see Nintendo doing good there.mgszelda1

I hate this generalization as well - I don't get what the magical driving force behind this PS3 upsurge is going to be. The system might start selling as a cheap Blu-Ray player, but like the PSP, the attach rate just doesn't seem to indicate that it's the place for developers to focus all of their projects. It's not becoming the next PS2, the situation is different, and without that "omg 95% of the games are on this system" effect going for it, why would anyone uninterested in Blu-Ray pay the PS3s whopping price tag? As far as Blu-Ray driving it, I think we're going to see the players come down in price below the PS3, players will hit the magic sub-$300 arena well before a PS3 does, that's a given simply because a stand-alone player doesn't have to have the high-speed RAM, cell processor, GPU, or hard drive that the PS3 has built in. You can never make a device with *more* stuff in it cheaper than device with less, it's just common sense (it's like trying to make an electric toothbrush cheaper than the old fashioned plastic handle with bristles). Sony pulling the $500 PS3 model from the market indicates to me that they're actually worried about people buying this solely as a cheap Blu-Ray player - someone who buys movies, especially non-Sony Blu-Ray movies probably doesn't generate as much profit for them as someone who buys the system for gaming. Maybe they were just taking too much of a loss on it, and people aren't buying enough games to subsidize their loss? As far as the Wii goes, I don't know. The DS gained a "wow, 95% of the games are on this" kind of effect that really hurt the PSP, and the PSP attach rate has stayed so low that developers don't seem to focus a lot of games on it. Actually the PSP is a darn shame - if it had maybe double the battery life... it's just a shame that a screen like that went to waste... But I can see how people can say there are scenarios where the Wii could stop selling - simply hits the point where everyone in the casual market gets bored of the tech, and they're left with only the real gamers picking up games, however that would definitely drive out the third parties. I hate to say it doesn't matter - but I don't think it does - Nintendo is making a profit on *everything* they do, at the end of the day, if the only sell twenty million Wiis, it won't hurt their company.

There r multiple things you dont take into consideration. 1. DVD9's r getting content shoved into every possible nuk and crany to fit games on them. Its time is at an end. Its going to happen soon. 2. Honestly between PS3 and 360 how many games have you seen push the new consoles to a new gameplay standard that really couldnt have been done on previous console besides graphics. 3.The handheld market is nothing like the console market. Just look at the games that make the sales for handhelds compared to consoles. I mean if they were so similiar wouldnt one of the GTAs on PSP be selling like wild fire. 4.I dont really expect prices for PS3 to come down soon. But I do find it funny that MS complained about the PS3 price and now they throw in a bigger harddrive and HDMI output as standard. On top of that if they were smart they would have kept the price of the elite lower since the tech was old and they were losing less on the old 360 editions. The thing with the wii is that it has a great idea but no game has utilized it. Honestly I would like to look at the game library of wii owners. I bet I find in most of them LoZ, Wii sports, and the wario game(sry cant remember the subtitle)

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[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="subrosian"]
For months prior to the release of the PS3, and even afterwards, I had to listen to fanboys bash the 360 because "all the 360 has are shooters, western sandbox games, and sports games". Even my own girlfriend was spouting this piece of misinformation. Then the PS3 comes out, and what are the three games every PS3 fanboy raves about? Resistance (an FPS), Motorstorm (a motorsport game), and Oblivion (an open "western" RPG).

It just seems ironic that we let the PS3 fanboys who kept bashing the 360 owners get away with this. As far as the PS3 owners who aren't fanboys, hey, more power to you. I also find it ironic that the 360 will beat the PS3 to having solid JRPGs, with Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, and Lost Odyssey this year. It just doesn't feel like a Playstation without Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, and a handful of tactical JRPGs.
heretrix

How can you say solid JRPGs when they havent even released in the U.S. and Blue Dragon in Japan hardly made a ripple. There is alot of irony in SW, like: All the MS fans who quoted the PC dev. that said the PS3 should do a do-over and now the 360 is the one rereleasing a new model of the 360 with all the features it bashed the PS3 for including the price tag. Or all the MS fans that raved about MGS 4 going to the 360 and starting every arguement about the PS3 losing exclusives with "MGS 4 coming next". Or what about all the MS fans that raved about Oblivion never making an appearance on the PS3 and it was announced as well as all the Praise NG got until NGS came out for the PS3. Then everyone raves that NGS is not worth a repurchase even though these people bought NGB with even fewer additions. If you go buy what fanboys claim then you will just keep going in circles. The point is every console has their fanboys.

Everything you just complained about the cows are equally guilty of...

1. The 360 launch line up stinksWhen the PS3 launched it was suddenly expected of everyone to understand that launch line ups suck.

2. Ninja Gaiden and Oblivion are terrible...the PS3 gets the ports/upgraded versions suddenly they are fantastic games that everyone should love..(True dat)

3. MS lies, Sony never does

4. Rumble is overrated and last gen. Now rumble is next gen now that Sony is able to use it legally.

5. Achievements suck but trophies are better

I could go on and on. Please do not act like cows aren't as hypocritical as any other fanboy.

Did I say at all that "cows" were any different. Did you read my last comment which was "THE POINT IS EVERY CONSOLE HAS THEIR FANBOYS". The Sony fans fall under EVERY. I geared it toward MS fans because the TC geared it toward Sony fans. Read it all and dont be so defensive.

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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]I'm glad to know that the opinions of a few represent everyone.The_Game21x

A "few"?

I think there were more than just a few...

I'll put it to you like this. Those rampant bashers and obvious fakboys that generate threads that go for pagas and pages, are really getting annoying. I feel that the opinions of Sony fans like myself, fuzzysquash, the_very_best, etc are what represents a fan of the 'Playstation' brand, not you know who.

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]I'm glad to know that the opinions of a few represent everyone.TekkenMaster606

A "few"?

I think there were more than just a few...

I'll put it to you like this. Those rampant bashers and obvious fakboys that generate threads that go for pagas and pages, are really getting annoying. I feel that the opinions of Sony fans like myself, fuzzysquash, the_very_best, etc are what represents a fan of the 'Playstation' brand, not you know who.

Agreed. Or the fact that if you have a PS3 everyone seems to think that is the only system u have.

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#22 XxR0gu3Go0sexX

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Why does that bother you??? who really cares what people say about a gaming system...

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]I'm glad to know that the opinions of a few represent everyone.TekkenMaster606

A "few"?

I think there were more than just a few...

I'll put it to you like this. Those rampant bashers and obvious fakboys that generate threads that go for pagas and pages, are really getting annoying. I feel that the opinions of Sony fans like myself, fuzzysquash, the_very_best, etc are what represents a fan of the 'Playstation' brand, not you know who.

I'd say you guys are not the average Playstation fans unfortunately. At least not in system wars. But it's that way about all of the factions here. the level headed posters are pretty much in the minority.

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[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="subrosian"]
For months prior to the release of the PS3, and even afterwards, I had to listen to fanboys bash the 360 because "all the 360 has are shooters, western sandbox games, and sports games". Even my own girlfriend was spouting this piece of misinformation. Then the PS3 comes out, and what are the three games every PS3 fanboy raves about? Resistance (an FPS), Motorstorm (a motorsport game), and Oblivion (an open "western" RPG).
It just seems ironic that we let the PS3 fanboys who kept bashing the 360 owners get away with this. As far as the PS3 owners who aren't fanboys, hey, more power to you. I also find it ironic that the 360 will beat the PS3 to having solid JRPGs, with Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, and Lost Odyssey this year. It just doesn't feel like a Playstation without Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, and a handful of tactical JRPGs.
subrosian

How can you say solid JRPGs when they havent even released in the U.S. and Blue Dragon in Japan hardly made a ripple. There is alot of irony in SW, like: All the MS fans who quoted the PC dev. that said the PS3 should do a do-over and now the 360 is the one rereleasing a new model of the 360 with all the features it bashed the PS3 for including the price tag. Or all the MS fans that raved about MGS 4 going to the 360 and starting every arguement about the PS3 losing exclusives with "MGS 4 coming next". Or what about all the MS fans that raved about Oblivion never making an appearance on the PS3 and it was announced as well as all the Praise NG got until NGS came out for the PS3. Then everyone raves that NGS is not worth a repurchase even though these people bought NGB with even fewer additions. If you go buy what fanboys claim then you will just keep going in circles. The point is every console has their fanboys.

I would probably be labeled as a 360 fan - certainly not a fan of everything Microsoft has done, but then all companies have made mistakes. But I will be the first to admit their are faults on all of the next generation systems. If I though the 360 was perfect, I would already own one. I'll be buying the Elite because, quite frankly, I don't think there's anything wrong with fixing your mistakes. I don't think MGS4 will wind up on the 360, I do think that some kind of FFXIII content will wind up on the 360, as they are building it as a multiple game implementation. As far as Oblivion is concerned, without the improved level up mod (always +5 to improved stats, rather than the existing system) the gameplay becomes very meta-game, tedious "I need to sneak for ten minutes before I can use my sword again" - which is frustrating. So PC is where Oblivion is at. However I guess I'm more bothered by the Sony fanboy-ism because it exists strongly in spite of Sony's failure to make its products live up to their potential. The PSP could have blown the DS out of the water, it didn't, I wanted it to, I waited for it to become something great, and it never did. The PS3, when I saw it at E3 2005, was *god* - there was no question, Sony had won the war, Blu-Ray was the future, and I could not wait to get one. Now just two years later I'm starring at a system that's beautifully made (watch the disassembly videos, everything inside fits perfectly) but has basic mistakes, such as the lack of a scalar chip, or the general game shortage that won't truly be gone until mid-2008. Microsoft gets called on every one of its mistakes - we have stickies for Broken 360s in their forums... but Sony hasn't been called since the PSP to account for how they can keep messing up. I guess I just wish I could see one Sony fanboy go "y'know, this is lame, Sony messed up" - because maybe, just maybe, they would start becoming competitive again. I don't want to see them relegated - we're watching Microsoft and Nintendo rake in profits that would have stayed in our (the consumers) pockets if Sony could have put more pressure on them. We didn't get our first 360 price cut this spring because Sony simply failed to be a real threat.

Come on, you cant deny that the tone has been very anti Sony. When Sony launched in Japan and U.S. people raved that it had too few consoles, why arent any in stock, then Sony picks up the shipment sends its console via Jet and does its best to keep consoles in stock and people rave that it has poor demand because consoles are in stock. In Europe the day Sony launched there were small lines, most likely because everyone was guaranteed a console so why skip class and work, but of course the media has a field day with it. They claim poor sales for launch based off of......a picture of an empty line. Then after the weekend when the official numbers come out Sony actually broke records. As for the PSP, its a whole nother story. Handhelds is a whole nother market with a very different audience. Pokemon is the top selling handheld game while GTA is the top selling console game. A much younger audience are the majority of handhelds and the PSP comes out and tries to get a new audience by convincing older gamers to play with handhelds, just like they did with the PS1. ITs working but still the majority is a younger audience that wanna play cute games and minigames. I think you underestimate the amount of negativity toward Sony. The PS3 has so much expecation, much more then the competition and people arent happy if the PS3 wins, no, they expect the PS3 to DOMINATE. As for the game shortage the 360 went through the same thing its first year. I just think there are alot of people out here with bad short term memory and forget how launches go. Everyone expects all the top games to come out three months after launch and that didnt happen with the PS2 or the PS1 so I dont know why people expect it with the PS3. As for the Elite part. There is no problem wanting an Elite but you have to realize that you are one of the lucky ones. Although fixing their mistake benefits you who was patient, there is a large number of people who bought one during the holiday season under the impression that the Premium console was the premium version. MS already DENIED the rumors of a Zephyr models just to get people not to hold off on the holiday season or lean towards their competitiors. That sucks for alot of gamers. And even with that I hardly see articles on the Elite and this whole situation. Hell I saw more articles on rumors of a third PS3 model as opposed to the actual confirmed Elite.

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For months prior to the release of the PS3, and even afterwards, I had to listen to fanboys bash the 360 because "all the 360 has are shooters, western sandbox games, and sports games". Even my own girlfriend was spouting this piece of misinformation. Then the PS3 comes out, and what are the three games every PS3 fanboy raves about? Resistance (an FPS), Motorstorm (a motorsport game), and Oblivion (an open "western" RPG).

It just seems ironic that we let the PS3 fanboys who kept bashing the 360 owners get away with this. As far as the PS3 owners who aren't fanboys, hey, more power to you. I also find it ironic that the 360 will beat the PS3 to having solid JRPGs, with Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, and Lost Odyssey this year. It just doesn't feel like a Playstation without Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, and a handful of tactical JRPGs.
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Trust me! No one fanboy will ever "get away" with anything. Every time a fanboy speaks in their biased tongue, they're self owned.

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[QUOTE="mgszelda1"] There r multiple things you dont take into consideration. 1. DVD9's r getting content shoved into every possible nuk and crany to fit games on them. Its time is at an end. Its going to happen soon. 2. Honestly between PS3 and 360 how many games have you seen push the new consoles to a new gameplay standard that really couldnt have been done on previous console besides graphics. 3.The handheld market is nothing like the console market. Just look at the games that make the sales for handhelds compared to consoles. I mean if they were so similiar wouldnt one of the GTAs on PSP be selling like wild fire. 4.I dont really expect prices for PS3 to come down soon. But I do find it funny that MS complained about the PS3 price and now they throw in a bigger harddrive and HDMI output as standard. On top of that if they were smart they would have kept the price of the elite lower since the tech was old and they were losing less on the old 360 editions. The thing with the wii is that it has a great idea but no game has utilized it. Honestly I would like to look at the game library of wii owners. I bet I find in most of them LoZ, Wii sports, and the wario game(sry cant remember the subtitle)

I think a point we can both agree on is that this generation is different, and quite a bit more pricey. I don't think moving onto multiple DVDs is going to be as big an issue as it is being made out to be. PS1 games maxed the potential of the CD, and there was nothing wrong with that. I kind of miss the "so what disc are you on?" conversations. I think Digital Distribution is an area we have to consider as competitive with Blu-Ray. Hard drive storage is quickly becoming an inexpensive commodity - though I can see Blu-Ray possibly becoming the standard for the next generation of consoles. We'll see though. The direction the market goes in from here is cloudy. I think a lot of what's being done now could not be done on a graphically weaker console - graphics and sound are the book push now, it's going along with the HDTV adoption and hopefully with more sound systems moving into homes. The video game market has to move with that. I don't think a game like Gears of War or Oblivion could have been done as well on a last gen system, if only because the graphics are such a part of creating that visual world. As far as Elite pricing goes - Sony has effectively ended the $500 PS3 - leaving a gap in the market in terms of pricing. On top of that, MS is not yet ready for a price cut, I don't think they will be until the 65nm revision slinks along, but at that point they also need to cut the price of the 120gb hard drive down. I don't think we'll see that for a bit.

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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]I'm glad to know that the opinions of a few represent everyone.TekkenMaster606

A "few"?

I think there were more than just a few...

I'll put it to you like this. Those rampant bashers and obvious fakboys that generate threads that go for pagas and pages, are really getting annoying. I feel that the opinions of Sony fans like myself, fuzzysquash, the_very_best, etc are what represents a fan of the 'Playstation' brand, not you know who.

Not to call your or the people you've listed out, but let's just leave it at - I've seen people who are "true PS3 fans" who have said some dumb things. I've see some true Xbox 360 fans say some dumb things too - it goes both ways. It is more than just a few on both sides. The fanboys really tend to turn threads that are not about hardware at all into ones that are - when a thread about, say, 360 exclusives turns into a "it'll never fit without Blu-Ray thread", it's frustrating.

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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="subrosian"]
For months prior to the release of the PS3, and even afterwards, I had to listen to fanboys bash the 360 because "all the 360 has are shooters, western sandbox games, and sports games". Even my own girlfriend was spouting this piece of misinformation. Then the PS3 comes out, and what are the three games every PS3 fanboy raves about? Resistance (an FPS), Motorstorm (a motorsport game), and Oblivion (an open "western" RPG).

It just seems ironic that we let the PS3 fanboys who kept bashing the 360 owners get away with this. As far as the PS3 owners who aren't fanboys, hey, more power to you. I also find it ironic that the 360 will beat the PS3 to having solid JRPGs, with Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, and Lost Odyssey this year. It just doesn't feel like a Playstation without Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, and a handful of tactical JRPGs.
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How can you say solid JRPGs when they havent even released in the U.S. and Blue Dragon in Japan hardly made a ripple. There is alot of irony in SW, like: All the MS fans who quoted the PC dev. that said the PS3 should do a do-over and now the 360 is the one rereleasing a new model of the 360 with all the features it bashed the PS3 for including the price tag. Or all the MS fans that raved about MGS 4 going to the 360 and starting every arguement about the PS3 losing exclusives with "MGS 4 coming next". Or what about all the MS fans that raved about Oblivion never making an appearance on the PS3 and it was announced as well as all the Praise NG got until NGS came out for the PS3. Then everyone raves that NGS is not worth a repurchase even though these people bought NGB with even fewer additions. If you go buy what fanboys claim then you will just keep going in circles. The point is every console has their fanboys.

Everything you just complained about the cows are equally guilty of...

1. The 360 launch line up stinksWhen the PS3 launched it was suddenly expected of everyone to understand that launch line ups suck.

2. Ninja Gaiden and Oblivion are terrible...the PS3 gets the ports/upgraded versions suddenly they are fantastic games that everyone should love..(True dat)

3. MS lies, Sony never does

4. Rumble is overrated and last gen. Now rumble is next gen now that Sony is able to use it legally.

5. Achievements suck but trophies are better

I could go on and on. Please do not act like cows aren't as hypocritical as any other fanboy.

Did I say at all that "cows" were any different. Did you read my last comment which was "THE POINT IS EVERY CONSOLE HAS THEIR FANBOYS". The Sony fans fall under EVERY. I geared it toward MS fans because the TC geared it toward Sony fans. Read it all and dont be so defensive.

We could go around and around on this but instead I'll say this what was your response to this thread if it wasn't defensive? I hate circular arguments, so just forget it. We are both out of sorts over nothing.

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[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="subrosian"]
For months prior to the release of the PS3, and even afterwards, I had to listen to fanboys bash the 360 because "all the 360 has are shooters, western sandbox games, and sports games". Even my own girlfriend was spouting this piece of misinformation. Then the PS3 comes out, and what are the three games every PS3 fanboy raves about? Resistance (an FPS), Motorstorm (a motorsport game), and Oblivion (an open "western" RPG).
It just seems ironic that we let the PS3 fanboys who kept bashing the 360 owners get away with this. As far as the PS3 owners who aren't fanboys, hey, more power to you. I also find it ironic that the 360 will beat the PS3 to having solid JRPGs, with Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, and Lost Odyssey this year. It just doesn't feel like a Playstation without Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, and a handful of tactical JRPGs.
Javy03

How can you say solid JRPGs when they havent even released in the U.S. and Blue Dragon in Japan hardly made a ripple. There is alot of irony in SW, like: All the MS fans who quoted the PC dev. that said the PS3 should do a do-over and now the 360 is the one rereleasing a new model of the 360 with all the features it bashed the PS3 for including the price tag. Or all the MS fans that raved about MGS 4 going to the 360 and starting every arguement about the PS3 losing exclusives with "MGS 4 coming next". Or what about all the MS fans that raved about Oblivion never making an appearance on the PS3 and it was announced as well as all the Praise NG got until NGS came out for the PS3. Then everyone raves that NGS is not worth a repurchase even though these people bought NGB with even fewer additions. If you go buy what fanboys claim then you will just keep going in circles. The point is every console has their fanboys.

I would probably be labeled as a 360 fan - certainly not a fan of everything Microsoft has done, but then all companies have made mistakes. But I will be the first to admit their are faults on all of the next generation systems. If I though the 360 was perfect, I would already own one. I'll be buying the Elite because, quite frankly, I don't think there's anything wrong with fixing your mistakes. I don't think MGS4 will wind up on the 360, I do think that some kind of FFXIII content will wind up on the 360, as they are building it as a multiple game implementation. As far as Oblivion is concerned, without the improved level up mod (always +5 to improved stats, rather than the existing system) the gameplay becomes very meta-game, tedious "I need to sneak for ten minutes before I can use my sword again" - which is frustrating. So PC is where Oblivion is at. However I guess I'm more bothered by the Sony fanboy-ism because it exists strongly in spite of Sony's failure to make its products live up to their potential. The PSP could have blown the DS out of the water, it didn't, I wanted it to, I waited for it to become something great, and it never did. The PS3, when I saw it at E3 2005, was *god* - there was no question, Sony had won the war, Blu-Ray was the future, and I could not wait to get one. Now just two years later I'm starring at a system that's beautifully made (watch the disassembly videos, everything inside fits perfectly) but has basic mistakes, such as the lack of a scalar chip, or the general game shortage that won't truly be gone until mid-2008. Microsoft gets called on every one of its mistakes - we have stickies for Broken 360s in their forums... but Sony hasn't been called since the PSP to account for how they can keep messing up. I guess I just wish I could see one Sony fanboy go "y'know, this is lame, Sony messed up" - because maybe, just maybe, they would start becoming competitive again. I don't want to see them relegated - we're watching Microsoft and Nintendo rake in profits that would have stayed in our (the consumers) pockets if Sony could have put more pressure on them. We didn't get our first 360 price cut this spring because Sony simply failed to be a real threat.

Come on, you cant deny that the tone has been very anti Sony. When Sony launched in Japan and U.S. people raved that it had too few consoles, why arent any in stock, then Sony picks up the shipment sends its console via Jet and does its best to keep consoles in stock and people rave that it has poor demand because consoles are in stock. In Europe the day Sony launched there were small lines, most likely because everyone was guaranteed a console so why skip class and work, but of course the media has a field day with it. They claim poor sales for launch based off of......a picture of an empty line. Then after the weekend when the official numbers come out Sony actually broke records. As for the PSP, its a whole nother story. Handhelds is a whole nother market with a very different audience. Pokemon is the top selling handheld game while GTA is the top selling console game. A much younger audience are the majority of handhelds and the PSP comes out and tries to get a new audience by convincing older gamers to play with handhelds, just like they did with the PS1. ITs working but still the majority is a younger audience that wanna play cute games and minigames. I think you underestimate the amount of negativity toward Sony. The PS3 has so much expecation, much more then the competition and people arent happy if the PS3 wins, no, they expect the PS3 to DOMINATE. As for the game shortage the 360 went through the same thing its first year. I just think there are alot of people out here with bad short term memory and forget how launches go. Everyone expects all the top games to come out three months after launch and that didnt happen with the PS2 or the PS1 so I dont know why people expect it with the PS3. As for the Elite part. There is no problem wanting an Elite but you have to realize that you are one of the lucky ones. Although fixing their mistake benefits you who was patient, there is a large number of people who bought one during the holiday season under the impression that the Premium console was the premium version. MS already DENIED the rumors of a Zephyr models just to get people not to hold off on the holiday season or lean towards their competitiors. That sucks for alot of gamers. And even with that I hardly see articles on the Elite and this whole situation. Hell I saw more articles on rumors of a third PS3 model as opposed to the actual confirmed Elite.

There has been, let's call it a quiet riot, surrounding the Elite, especially in the 360 forums. People are absolutely livid that they no longer own "the greatest" system, simply the "premium" in a world with an ultra-premium. I think that's misplaced hate, I understand where it's coming from, but they weren't screwed over. There is a huge amount of negativity towards Sony, but I'm simply contesting the claims that it is undeserved. Sony made a big promise at E3 2005, Microsoft didn't. As you've said, there is an expectation for them to dominate - an expectation that won't be fulfilled. Even if we hypothetically say "the PS3 will win this generation", it's going to be closely tailed by a growing Xbox community. Microsoft does not comment on rumors of speculation. You honestly expect them to give up their holiday sales from October, November, and December for a console that wasn't coming out until the beginning of May? As far as the Sony launch goes, yes, there were small lines because everyone knew there was a big supply, and pre-orders were plentiful. I think the only real reason to be concerned is that Sony saturated the market for a while. That is to say, the initial sale numbers are meaningless if the sales don't continue at a steady rate for the next couple months. If the monthly sales numbers keep up, then Sony just redefined how to launch. Frankly? I don't think they have. They bet on new hardware, production delays forced the "spring 2006 worldwide launch" into Spring 2007, and that's going to hurt them this generation. It's like starting a marathon by spraining your ankle... not good.

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Come on, you cant deny that the tone has been very anti Sony. When Sony launched in Japan and U.S. people raved that it had too few consoles, why arent any in stock, then Sony picks up the shipment sends its console via Jet and does its best to keep consoles in stock and people rave that it has poor demand because consoles are in stock. In Europe the day Sony launched there were small lines, most likely because everyone was guaranteed a console so why skip class and work, but of course the media has a field day with it. They claim poor sales for launch based off of......a picture of an empty line. Javy03

This whole "Woe is me I'm a Playstation fan" crap really pisses me off.. When the 360 launched the cows here were RELENTLESS. It was a complete madhouse the day before the 360 launched and weeks afterwards. All of this PS3 hate is vindication for the lemmings that had to put up with years of cows bashing them when the PS2 was on top and nobody wanted to touch the Xbox except to play Halo. So just chin up it's your friggin turn. Deal with it. I dont say this to be mean but that is exactly why people treat the cows the way they do. All the way up to E3 2006 they were complete jerks to EVERYBODY. (Not all of them. There were so really cool cows that don't post here anymore)

As for the game shortage the 360 went through the same thing its first year. I just think there are alot of people out here with bad short term memory and forget how launches go. Everyone expects all the top games to come out three months after launch and that didnt happen with the PS2 or the PS1 so I dont know why people expect it with the PS3.Javy03

But that sure as hell didn't stop cows from expecting it from the 360......You are right about short term memory though lot's of cows are suffering from it.

You may not have been here for all of this, but let's not act like all of this hostility comes from nowhere. And it's not just System Wars, it's everywhere. People always want to see the giant fall, especially an arrogant giant.

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well if you just spent $600 425 GBP on something then your not going to just give up on it are you?

Well actually that would be the sensible thing to do,but you know what's more sensible than that?...Not buying a ps3.

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I'm glad to know that the opinions of a few represent everyone.TekkenMaster606

And now the thread has been finished off. :)

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]I'm glad to know that the opinions of a few represent everyone.TekkenMaster606

A "few"?

I think there were more than just a few...

I'll put it to you like this. Those rampant bashers and obvious fakboys that generate threads that go for pagas and pages, are really getting annoying. I feel that the opinions of Sony fans like myself, fuzzysquash, the_very_best, etc are what represents a fan of the 'Playstation' brand, not you know who.

Well, those rampant bashers and obvious fakeboys represent the majority of Sony fans here in SW just like the Sheep who use sales in every argument, Lemmings who say that JRPGs are garbage, but praise Blue Dragon.

It's just how things are here in SW.

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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]I'm glad to know that the opinions of a few represent everyone.The_Game21x

A "few"?

I think there were more than just a few...

I'll put it to you like this. Those rampant bashers and obvious fakboys that generate threads that go for pagas and pages, are really getting annoying. I feel that the opinions of Sony fans like myself, fuzzysquash, the_very_best, etc are what represents a fan of the 'Playstation' brand, not you know who.

Well, those rampant bashers and obvious fakeboys represent the majority of Sony fans here in SW just like the Sheep who use sales in every argument, Lemmings who say that JRPGs are garbage, but praise Blue Dragon.

It's just how things are here in SW.

But when I think of the fans in each faction, those types of posters never come to mind. For example, someone like Felous1 represents an Xbox fan that happens to know what's going on, unlike the color yellow and flowers you get on V-day. I guess it's just me.

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