Sony: 3.2m PS3s Sold During Q2 27m PS3s Sold To Date

Chop at least 2 mill off the 360 lead when FFXIII Exclusive comes out in Japan.

Uptown

Software still sells like dung for the PS3

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

Don't you guys all agree that, if you think about it, comparing PS3 sales directly to 360 sales is a pretty odd thing to do. It's like a race where one of the cars starts a minute after another. If that happens do you consider the relative postions of the car to see who's doing better or doyou consider the lap times? I don't understand why lemmings are always proud to claim they're still in the lead, while a per annum analysis of sales is what's actually telling who's doing better.

renger6002

Fair enough. It would surprise me though, if the PS3 wouldn't also be around for longer than the 360 and so will make up for the latter's earlier launch. In the meantime the only way to fairly compare how the consoles are doingremains to compare sales a certain period after launch. If you do that it shows PS3 outperforming the 360, which is even more impressive in the light of the high initial price point and lack of games in its first year (although the latter also applied to 360 so that's no discriminating factor).

In all objectiveness I must say, that if I'd have to bet all my money on which console will have the most units sold ten years from now (between 360 and PS3) I would without hesitation go for the PS3.

Software still sells like dung for the PS3

FFXIII360

You'd be surprised how much dung is sold annually... :P

So the 360 is at 34 million and the PS3 is at 27 million. If I remember correctly, the 360 sold 7 or 8 million before the PS3 even hit the market. This means that the PS3 has not managed to catch up to the 360 one bit in the 3+ years since Sony released it. We're almost 5 years into this gen. It looks like Sony is going to finish this race as #3.

farrell2k

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

You want to know what's impressive, how close this sales war is considering the multiplats available, the year headstart, and the HIGHLY priced PS3. Those are crazy hurdles yet still they have been effectively managed to get 27 million units out there. While that's "Last Place to fanboy's", it's impressive when you consider the variables.

GreyFoXX4

So, other than ignoring the successes of its competitors and ignoring its own huge mistakes, Sony's PS3 sales are 'impressive'?

That was a truly laughable and revisionist post. How about starting with the most powerful gaming brand, back to back easy wins, 75% marketshare, and your home market in your back pocket? Conveniently forgot those, right?

There wasn't a person on the planet that expected Sony to be in last place 3-4 years into the generation. No one. Not one. Notta. Not even Bill Gates.

The facts that are worth noting. Had 75% marketshare. Now has 25% marketshare. Accomplished this 'impressive' result in 3-4 years. Congrats Sony, it took GM 4 decades to lose that much marketshare, you did it in 4 years. And to top it all off, they are still losing money on every h/w unit. Yep, that sure is 'impressive'.

Note to self: when introducing the successor to a dominant mass market product don't build it and price it as niche/premium product and then let your ego delude you into thinking everyone will buy it anyway.....cause there is no competition, right? ;)

thats not true, the ps3 was getting trounced in sales until its 2nd 'price drop'... it didnt start selling like the 360 until the price was comparable

[QUOTE="Uptown"]

Chop at least 2 mill off the 360 lead when FFXIII Exclusive comes out in Japan.

Rikusaki

ahhh... yes. so by 'lead' you actually mean 2nd place? interesting...

So the 360 is at 34 million and the PS3 is at 27 million. If I remember correctly, the 360 sold 7 or 8 million before the PS3 even hit the market. This means that the PS3 has not managed to catch up to the 360 one bit in the 3+ years since Sony released it. We're almost 5 years into this gen. It looks like Sony is going to finish this race as #3.

farrell2k

5 years into this gen??? How did you come up with that figure. The 360 is celebrating its 4 th birthday this year... the PS3 and Wii will be turning 3.

I don't know if the PS3 will end up outselling the 360, and I don't care. But if this source is accurate, Sony cut the margin by over 1 million units in 3 months... and during the holiday months sales will be far greater than the quarter that recently ended. Looks to me by those figures this may end up being more of a race (if you can even call it a race when one side has a full year headstart) than you're giving credit.

So the 360 is at 34 million and the PS3 is at 27 million. If I remember correctly, the 360 sold 7 or 8 million before the PS3 even hit the market. This means that the PS3 has not managed to catch up to the 360 one bit in the 3+ years since Sony released it. We're almost 5 years into this gen. It looks like Sony is going to finish this race as #3.

i remember when the ps3 came out, the lemmings where all excited, due to the 19mill lead. now its only 7mill. talk about 360 losing its touch.spike6566

5 billion lost ... oh my word. :o Definitely Sony was not the most financially smart company in the business this generation. That number ... is just, wow. That's more than than the entire United Nations budget. lolStevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="Uptown"]

Chop at least 2 mill off the 360 lead when FFXIII Exclusive comes out in Japan.

Rikusaki

Chop off 4 million off the PS3 when Halo REACH releases.

Good sales for Sony. I'm sure that it was a small bolster of confidence considering their losses.

[QUOTE="rattler1990"]@midnightshade It is not a tie XBOX 360: 34 million PS3: 27 millionMidnightshade29

Whilst yes, the 1 year head start obviously gave the 360 a serious boost, it is still beating the PS3. It was nobody but Sony's fault that the PS3 didn't come out until a year later, due to the low yield on Cell processors etc.

Either way, MS still has the upper hand.

the 7 more millions are mostly sold due to rrod...

the 7 more millions are mostly sold due to rrod...

ioannisdenton

Or the one extra year it was on the marker.

Where'd you pull that info from?

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="Uptown"]

Chop at least 2 mill off the 360 lead when FFXIII Exclusive comes out in Japan.

Chop off 4 million off the PS3 when Halo REACH releases.

[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

if the gap closes to 6mil, do 360 and PS3 are now tied saleswise considering 360 has a full year head start?

TreeMoBMoney

wait what? fair? the console that sells more wins... theres no year head start BS

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="Uptown"]

Chop at least 2 mill off the 360 lead when FFXIII Exclusive comes out in Japan.

ogvampire

ahhh... yes. so by 'lead' you actually mean 2nd place? interesting...

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"] Chop off another 3-5 million when Gran Turismo 5 releases in Japan, yep, the PS3 will be in the lead by the end of 2010.Rikusaki

ahhh... yes. so by 'lead' you actually mean 2nd place? interesting...

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

ahhh... yes. so by 'lead' you actually mean 2nd place? interesting...

Nidget

[QUOTE="Nidget"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"] Of course. 2nd place is really 1st place here. The Wii is impossible to catch now.Rikusaki

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"] Chop off another 3-5 million when Gran Turismo 5 releases in Japan, yep, the PS3 will be in the lead by the end of 2010.2mrw

Chop off 4 million off the PS3 when Halo REACH releases.

It really doesn't matter if the PS3 is selling more or the 360 is selling more. What matters is Sony is still loosing money on every PS3 they sell, quarter after quarter. While Microsoft and Nintendo are both making money on their consoles. What I worry about is Sony in the past has canceled products that are not profitable, which any company should do. Hopefully they just don't stop making the PS3 one day. I doubt they will but it might make them think twice before coming out with the PS4. At least this last quarter looks better than any of the ones before it thanks to the Slim and a price cut.

Also to all the people who sit there and state that the PS3 would be ahead if the 360 didn't have a year head start..so what...Nintendo started pretty much at the exact time the PS3 did, but had no problem closing the gap and exceeding it. If Sony would have offered a good product at a reasonable price for it's first 3 years of existence there wouldn't have been a gap, the PlayStation name itself would have sold consoles.

coasterguy65

Exactly. Cows are only cheering for their small victory in sales when Sony has dug themselves into an even greater hole now that they dropped the price of the system down to $299 (as well as spending billions of dollars on both the cell & supporting Blu-Ray). They already lost nearly $5 Billion off of just the PS3 alone. I don't think that anyone has lost that much money off of just the gaming division (besides MS with their last X-Box system). That's the thing that Cows should be really focusing on. If Sony keeps losing even more money like that (especially for next gen once they start making the PS4 & when it comes out; count on it), they'll probably won't be able to make it through the gaming division after next gen.

Microsoft still has plenty of billions left over in their accounts, so they have nothing to worry about. They can even pay the BDA to have Blu-Ray in their next gen system if they want without having to spend billions supporting it like Sony did, as it will become much cheaper.

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

It really doesn't matter if the PS3 is selling more or the 360 is selling more. What matters is Sony is still loosing money on every PS3 they sell, quarter after quarter. While Microsoft and Nintendo are both making money on their consoles. What I worry about is Sony in the past has canceled products that are not profitable, which any company should do. Hopefully they just don't stop making the PS3 one day. I doubt they will but it might make them think twice before coming out with the PS4. At least this last quarter looks better than any of the ones before it thanks to the Slim and a price cut.

Also to all the people who sit there and state that the PS3 would be ahead if the 360 didn't have a year head start..so what...Nintendo started pretty much at the exact time the PS3 did, but had no problem closing the gap and exceeding it. If Sony would have offered a good product at a reasonable price for it's first 3 years of existence there wouldn't have been a gap, the PlayStation name itself would have sold consoles.

Exactly. Cows are only cheering for their small victory in sales when Sony has dug themselves into an even greater hole now that they dropped the price of the system down to $299 (as well as spending billions of dollars on both the cell & supporting Blu-Ray). They already lost nearly $5 Billion off of just the PS3 alone. I don't think that anyone has lost that much money off of just the gaming division (besides MS with their last X-Box system). That's the thing that Cows should be really focusing on. If Sony keeps losing even more money like that (especially for next gen once they start making the PS4 & when it comes out; count on it), they'll probably won't be able to make it through the gaming division after next gen.

Microsoft still has plenty of billions left over in their accounts, so they have nothing to worry about. They can even pay the BDA to have Blu-Ray in their next gen system if they want without having to spend billions supporting it like Sony did, as it will become much cheaper.

[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

It really doesn't matter if the PS3 is selling more or the 360 is selling more. What matters is Sony is still loosing money on every PS3 they sell, quarter after quarter. While Microsoft and Nintendo are both making money on their consoles. What I worry about is Sony in the past has canceled products that are not profitable, which any company should do. Hopefully they just don't stop making the PS3 one day. I doubt they will but it might make them think twice before coming out with the PS4. At least this last quarter looks better than any of the ones before it thanks to the Slim and a price cut.

Also to all the people who sit there and state that the PS3 would be ahead if the 360 didn't have a year head start..so what...Nintendo started pretty much at the exact time the PS3 did, but had no problem closing the gap and exceeding it. If Sony would have offered a good product at a reasonable price for it's first 3 years of existence there wouldn't have been a gap, the PlayStation name itself would have sold consoles.

2mrw

Exactly. Cows are only cheering for their small victory in sales when Sony has dug themselves into an even greater hole now that they dropped the price of the system down to $299 (as well as spending billions of dollars on both the cell & supporting Blu-Ray). They already lost nearly $5 Billion off of just the PS3 alone. I don't think that anyone has lost that much money off of just the gaming division (besides MS with their last X-Box system). That's the thing that Cows should be really focusing on. If Sony keeps losing even more money like that (especially for next gen once they start making the PS4 & when it comes out; count on it), they'll probably won't be able to make it through the gaming division after next gen.

Microsoft still has plenty of billions left over in their accounts, so they have nothing to worry about. They can even pay the BDA to have Blu-Ray in their next gen system if they want without having to spend billions supporting it like Sony did, as it will become much cheaper.

I doubt that MS will immediately drop support from the 360, especially when more games are coming out for it & that they're still making money off of each 360 being sold. There's no reason for them to. The only reason they pulled support from the original X-Box after 4 years was because it was bleeding them money (like the PS3 is doing still), not because they lost to Sony or anything.

Plus it will take much more of a miracle for even the PS3 to close the gap with the X-Box 360 in it's current state. I just don't see that happening. MS will have to sell 0 360's for Sony to even have a chance to catch up with them, which will be never. Plus Sony has been losing money off of the PS3 since the beginning. How are they going to make all of that loot back? Not by software sales, etc., alone.

[QUOTE="2mrw"][QUOTE="garland51"]

Exactly. Cows are only cheering for their small victory in sales when Sony has dug themselves into an even greater hole now that they dropped the price of the system down to $299 (as well as spending billions of dollars on both the cell & supporting Blu-Ray). They already lost nearly $5 Billion off of just the PS3 alone. I don't think that anyone has lost that much money off of just the gaming division (besides MS with their last X-Box system). That's the thing that Cows should be really focusing on. If Sony keeps losing even more money like that (especially for next gen once they start making the PS4 & when it comes out; count on it), they'll probably won't be able to make it through the gaming division after next gen.

Microsoft still has plenty of billions left over in their accounts, so they have nothing to worry about. They can even pay the BDA to have Blu-Ray in their next gen system if they want without having to spend billions supporting it like Sony did, as it will become much cheaper.

I doubt that MS will immediately drop support from the 360, especially when more games are coming out for it & that they're still making money off of each 360 being sold. There's no reason for them to. The only reason they pulled support from the original X-Box after 4 years was because it was bleeding them money (like the PS3 is doing still), not because they lost to Sony or anything.

Plus it will take much more of a miracle for even the PS3 to close the gap with the X-Box 360 in it's current state. I just don't see that happening. MS will have to sell 0 360's for Sony to even have a chance to catch up with them, which will be never. Plus Sony has been losing money off of the PS3 since the beginning. How are they going to make all of that loot back? Not by software sales, etc., alone.

[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="2mrw"] you are showing the bright side of MS performance, MS has been losing lead since the inroduction of the PS3 slim, their console sales is slightly above half of the PS3 sales. regarding Sony losing money, i think Sony learnt from its mistake,i dun think they are stupid enough to cut the PS3 price and sell that amount at loss unless it's very minor loss, you would be very stupid to think otherwise. the PS3 lagged at first and it's now catching up, the x360 had a good lead but not anymore.........i doubt if the PS3 will ever catch up but i think Sony will support the PS3 longer than MS will be supporting the x360, then it will strike wz a the PS4 which should be perfect in every aspect (lesson learnt) and if they are lucky enough they will get the Wii sales wz their PS4 (cool story,i know).2mrw

I doubt that MS will immediately drop support from the 360, especially when more games are coming out for it & that they're still making money off of each 360 being sold. There's no reason for them to. The only reason they pulled support from the original X-Box after 4 years was because it was bleeding them money (like the PS3 is doing still), not because they lost to Sony or anything.

Plus it will take much more of a miracle for even the PS3 to close the gap with the X-Box 360 in it's current state. I just don't see that happening. MS will have to sell 0 360's for Sony to even have a chance to catch up with them, which will be never. Plus Sony has been losing money off of the PS3 since the beginning. How are they going to make all of that loot back? Not by software sales, etc., alone.

The 360 will have longer support, too. If the PS3 had passed the 360 sales in 3 years, then how come the PS3 isn't in 2nd place yet? Dragon origins is good, but guess what, the PC version is even more better than both the console versions combined when it comes to graphics.

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"] Chop off another 3-5 million when Gran Turismo 5 releases in Japan, yep, the PS3 will be in the lead by the end of 2010.2mrw

Chop off 4 million off the PS3 when Halo REACH releases.

Halo has always been a system seller.

360's sales doubled in the first week of Halo 3's release.

[QUOTE="2mrw"][QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

Chop off 4 million off the PS3 when Halo REACH releases.

Halo has always been a system seller.

360's sales doubled in the first week of Halo 3's release.

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"] Chop off another 3-5 million when Gran Turismo 5 releases in Japan, yep, the PS3 will be in the lead by the end of 2010.2mrw

Chop off 4 million off the PS3 when Halo REACH releases.

nah... halo is a system seller

halo 3 was a huge boost for the 360 when it launched. it was the only time the 360 outsold the wii in NA