Sony already won 2011 before it even started

No offense but wii has even more shovel ware. Im not saying that all pc has are bad games however alot of bad games do come out and shouldnt be used to try and defend a system.

EdenProxy

Please point the games you think are "shovelware" and say why,don´t just say names randomly.

I seem to recall that Amnesia: The Dark Descent was called the same thing by some users here(one was even reluctant of including it in the upcoming PC games list because he never heard of it before,therefore the game is irrelevant...) months ago and it´s now a AAE game with lot´s of AAAE scores as well,not to mention one of the best horror games ever made.

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

PC:

Action

Red Orchestra II: Heroes of Stalingrad
Contagion
E.Y.E.
Depth
Ground Branch
Firefall
Age of Chivalry
Primal Carnage

Strategy

Shogun 2: Total War
Stronghold III
End of Nations
Chris Taylor's Kings & Castles
Might and Magic: Heroes VI
Sword of the Stars II: The Lords of Winter
Age of Empires Online
Tropico 4
Cities in Motion
Jagged Alliance 2: Reloaded
Jagged Alliance 3
Warhammer 40.000: Dawn of War II - Retribution
Men of War: Vietnam
Crusader Kings II
Dungeons

RPG

Diablo III
The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings
Neverwinter
Grim Dawn
Risen II
Dead State
Darkspore
Torchlight II
Avadon: The Black Fortress
Magicka

MMO

Star Wars: The Old Republic
World of Darkness
Warhammer 40.000: Dark Millennium
Guild Wars 2
Drakensang Online
Tera
Rift: Planes of Telara
Infinity: The Quest for Earth
Blackstar Chronicles
Jumpgate Evolution

Simulators

Microsoft Flight
DCS: A-10c Warthhog

Racing

rFactor 2
GTR Racing 2011
Trackmania 2

Puzzle/Casual

The Sims Medieval
Minecraft

Yeah....I don´t think so.

EdenProxy

If I had included shovelware on the list it would have been 10x bigger. :P

If I had included shovelware on the list it would have been 10x bigger. :P

RyuRanVII

Oh,in case you haven´t noticed it,I´ve been using your list bro.:P

PC:

Action

Red Orchestra II: Heroes of Stalingrad
Contagion
E.Y.E.
Depth
Ground Branch
Firefall
Age of Chivalry
Primal Carnage

Strategy

Shogun 2: Total War
Stronghold III
End of Nations
Chris Taylor's Kings & Castles
Might and Magic: Heroes VI
Sword of the Stars II: The Lords of Winter
Age of Empires Online
Tropico 4
Cities in Motion
Jagged Alliance 2: Reloaded
Jagged Alliance 3
Warhammer 40.000: Dawn of War II - Retribution
Men of War: Vietnam
Crusader Kings II
Dungeons

RPG

Diablo III
The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings
Neverwinter
Grim Dawn
Risen II
Dead State
Darkspore
Torchlight II
Avadon: The Black Fortress
Magicka

MMO

Star Wars: The Old Republic
World of Darkness
Warhammer 40.000: Dark Millennium
Guild Wars 2
Drakensang Online
Tera
Rift: Planes of Telara
Infinity: The Quest for Earth
Blackstar Chronicles
Jumpgate Evolution

Simulators

Microsoft Flight
DCS: A-10c Warthhog

Racing

rFactor 2
GTR Racing 2011
Trackmania 2

Puzzle/Casual

The Sims Medieval
Minecraft

Yeah....I don´t think so.

Arach666

Guild Wars 2, Torchlight II, Age of Empires Online and GTR Racing 2011 should be AA.

other than that, way too many < 7.0 rated games and expansions :S

[QUOTE="RyuRanVII"]

If I had included shovelware on the list it would have been 10x bigger. :P

Oh,in case you haven´t noticed it,I´ve been using your list bro.:P

Looks like Sony has 2011 on lock, but my most hyped games are Diablo III and Starcraft II: Heart of The Swarm. Boy will I be busy for a decade.

Wall of shovelware.hd5870corei7

PC:

Action

Red Orchestra II: Heroes of Stalingrad
Contagion
E.Y.E.
Depth
Ground Branch
Firefall
Age of Chivalry
Primal Carnage

Strategy

Shogun 2: Total War
Stronghold III
End of Nations
Chris Taylor's Kings & Castles
Might and Magic: Heroes VI
Sword of the Stars II: The Lords of Winter
Age of Empires Online
Tropico 4
Cities in Motion
Jagged Alliance 2: Reloaded
Jagged Alliance 3
Warhammer 40.000: Dawn of War II - Retribution
Men of War: Vietnam
Crusader Kings II
Dungeons

RPG

Diablo III
The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings
Neverwinter
Grim Dawn
Risen II
Dead State
Darkspore
Torchlight II
Avadon: The Black Fortress
Magicka

MMO

Star Wars: The Old Republic
World of Darkness
Warhammer 40.000: Dark Millennium
Guild Wars 2
Drakensang Online
Tera
Rift: Planes of Telara
Infinity: The Quest for Earth
Blackstar Chronicles
Jumpgate Evolution

Simulators

Microsoft Flight
DCS: A-10c Warthhog

Racing

rFactor 2
GTR Racing 2011
Trackmania 2

Puzzle/Casual

The Sims Medieval
Minecraft

Yeah....I don´t think so.

Arach666

Boom!! but that's not fair since every year is the year of the PC

PC:

Action

Red Orchestra II: Heroes of Stalingrad
Contagion
E.Y.E.
Depth
Ground Branch
Firefall
Age of Chivalry
Primal Carnage

Strategy

Shogun 2: Total War
Stronghold III
End of Nations
Chris Taylor's Kings & Castles
Might and Magic: Heroes VI
Sword of the Stars II: The Lords of Winter
Age of Empires Online
Tropico 4
Cities in Motion
Jagged Alliance 2: Reloaded
Jagged Alliance 3
Warhammer 40.000: Dawn of War II - Retribution
Men of War: Vietnam
Crusader Kings II
Dungeons

RPG

Diablo III
The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings
Neverwinter
Grim Dawn
Risen II
Dead State
Darkspore
Torchlight II
Avadon: The Black Fortress
Magicka

MMO

Star Wars: The Old Republic
World of Darkness
Warhammer 40.000: Dark Millennium
Guild Wars 2
Drakensang Online
Tera
Rift: Planes of Telara
Infinity: The Quest for Earth
Blackstar Chronicles
Jumpgate Evolution

Simulators

Microsoft Flight
DCS: A-10c Warthhog

Racing

rFactor 2
GTR Racing 2011
Trackmania 2

Puzzle/Casual

The Sims Medieval
Minecraft

Yeah....I don´t think so.

Arach666

[QUOTE="yugioh3ds"]

-Killzone 3

-lbp2

-infamous 2

-the last guardian

-resistance 3

-ratchet & clank

-maybe UC3

These are just the popular ones, no need to name every single exclusive like what lems do. Compared to the 360 popular exclusive of 2011...

-Gears 3

-maybe forza 4

-none

clone01

PC:

Action

Red Orchestra II: Heroes of Stalingrad
Contagion
E.Y.E.
Depth
Ground Branch
Firefall
Age of Chivalry
Primal Carnage

Strategy

Shogun 2: Total War
Stronghold III
End of Nations
Chris Taylor's Kings & Castles
Might and Magic: Heroes VI
Sword of the Stars II: The Lords of Winter
Age of Empires Online
Tropico 4
Cities in Motion
Jagged Alliance 2: Reloaded
Jagged Alliance 3
Warhammer 40.000: Dawn of War II - Retribution
Men of War: Vietnam
Crusader Kings II
Dungeons

RPG

Diablo III
The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings
Neverwinter
Grim Dawn
Risen II
Dead State
Darkspore
Torchlight II
Avadon: The Black Fortress
Magicka

MMO

Star Wars: The Old Republic
World of Darkness
Warhammer 40.000: Dark Millennium
Guild Wars 2
Drakensang Online
Tera
Rift: Planes of Telara
Infinity: The Quest for Earth
Blackstar Chronicles
Jumpgate Evolution

Simulators

Microsoft Flight
DCS: A-10c Warthhog

Racing

rFactor 2
GTR Racing 2011
Trackmania 2

Puzzle/Casual

The Sims Medieval
Minecraft

Yeah....I don´t think so.

Arach666

These games are shovelware that no one will buy, no one will hype, some sites won't review, and overall suck / not a quality title.

These games I accept as a quality game A-AA or an expansion or not sure if PC exclusive.

These games will be epic and compare to the games coming out for PS3, and are certain to score AAA.

PC wins. Because PC always wins.

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="yugioh3ds"]

-Killzone 3

-lbp2

-infamous 2

-the last guardian

-resistance 3

-ratchet & clank

-maybe UC3

These are just the popular ones, no need to name every single exclusive like what lems do. Compared to the 360 popular exclusive of 2011...

-Gears 3

-maybe forza 4

-none

Sollet

2011 PS3 exclusives >>> 2011 360 exclusives + The Move with 4p and controllers >>> Kinect only 2p and can't do shooters.

PC wins. Because PC always wins.

shinrabanshou

Wii good, PS3 great, PC great, 360 bad in 2011.

Its not fair to include the PC in system wars.... its an automatic win.

Realistically consoles should be compared to consoles. PC is its own thing.

Its not fair to include the PC in system wars.... its an automatic win.

Realistically consoles should be compared to consoles. PC is its own thing.

haberman13

Correct! It should be PS3, Wii, 360 wars and not system wars.

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

PC:

Action

Red Orchestra II: Heroes of Stalingrad
Contagion
E.Y.E.
Depth
Ground Branch
Firefall
Age of Chivalry
Primal Carnage

Strategy

Shogun 2: Total War
Stronghold III
End of Nations
Chris Taylor's Kings & Castles
Might and Magic: Heroes VI
Sword of the Stars II: The Lords of Winter
Age of Empires Online
Tropico 4
Cities in Motion
Jagged Alliance 2: Reloaded
Jagged Alliance 3
Warhammer 40.000: Dawn of War II - Retribution
Men of War: Vietnam
Crusader Kings II
Dungeons

RPG

Diablo III
The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings
Neverwinter
Grim Dawn
Risen II
Dead State
Darkspore
Torchlight II
Avadon: The Black Fortress
Magicka

MMO

Star Wars: The Old Republic
World of Darkness
Warhammer 40.000: Dark Millennium
Guild Wars 2
Drakensang Online
Tera
Rift: Planes of Telara
Infinity: The Quest for Earth
Blackstar Chronicles
Jumpgate Evolution

Simulators

Microsoft Flight
DCS: A-10c Warthhog

Racing

rFactor 2
GTR Racing 2011
Trackmania 2

Puzzle/Casual

The Sims Medieval
Minecraft

Yeah....I don´t think so.

hd5870corei7

These games are shovelware that no one will buy, no one will hype, some sites won't review, and overall suck / not a quality title.

These games I accept as a quality game A-AA or an expansion or not sure if PC exclusive.

These games will be epic and compare to the games coming out for PS3, and are certain to score AAA.

..... :lol: Because Heroes of Might & Magic, a consistent AA franchise, Tropico (AA), rFactor, ya know, one of the most realistic racing sims around with a gamerankings score of 8.6,... Grim Dawn, a Diablo clone made by the devs behind Titan Quest, Jagged Alliance, DCS, Torchlight 2 and Firefall are not worth getting excited about.

probably most stoked about the last guardian and yakuza 4. but Sony hasn't won anything until those games actually release :X

and as stated, the PC looks like it has a pretty strong lineup.

[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

PC:

Action

Red Orchestra II: Heroes of Stalingrad
Contagion
E.Y.E.
Depth
Ground Branch
Firefall
Age of Chivalry
Primal Carnage

Strategy

Shogun 2: Total War
Stronghold III
End of Nations
Chris Taylor's Kings & Castles
Might and Magic: Heroes VI
Sword of the Stars II: The Lords of Winter
Age of Empires Online
Tropico 4
Cities in Motion
Jagged Alliance 2: Reloaded
Jagged Alliance 3
Warhammer 40.000: Dawn of War II - Retribution
Men of War: Vietnam
Crusader Kings II
Dungeons

RPG

Diablo III
The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings
Neverwinter
Grim Dawn
Risen II
Dead State
Darkspore
Torchlight II
Avadon: The Black Fortress
Magicka

MMO

Star Wars: The Old Republic
World of Darkness
Warhammer 40.000: Dark Millennium
Guild Wars 2
Drakensang Online
Tera
Rift: Planes of Telara
Infinity: The Quest for Earth
Blackstar Chronicles
Jumpgate Evolution

Simulators

Microsoft Flight
DCS: A-10c Warthhog

Racing

rFactor 2
GTR Racing 2011
Trackmania 2

Puzzle/Casual

The Sims Medieval
Minecraft

Yeah....I don´t think so.

WhenCicadasCry

These games are shovelware that no one will buy, no one will hype, some sites won't review, and overall suck / not a quality title.

These games I accept as a quality game A-AA or an expansion or not sure if PC exclusive.

These games will be epic and compare to the games coming out for PS3, and are certain to score AAA.

..... :lol: Because Heroes of Might & Magic, a consistent AA franchise, Tropico (AA), rFactor, ya know, one of the most realistic racing sims around with a gamerankings score of 8.6,... Grim Dawn, a Diablo clone made by the devs behind Titan Quest, Jagged Alliance, DCS, Torchlight 2 and Firefall are not worth getting excited about.

Its not fair to include the PC in system wars.... its an automatic win.

Realistically consoles should be compared to consoles. PC is its own thing.

haberman13

How so?

[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

PC:

Action

Red Orchestra II: Heroes of Stalingrad
Contagion
E.Y.E.
Depth
Ground Branch
Firefall
Age of Chivalry
Primal Carnage

Strategy

Shogun 2: Total War
Stronghold III
End of Nations
Chris Taylor's Kings & Castles
Might and Magic: Heroes VI
Sword of the Stars II: The Lords of Winter
Age of Empires Online
Tropico 4
Cities in Motion
Jagged Alliance 2: Reloaded
Jagged Alliance 3
Warhammer 40.000: Dawn of War II - Retribution
Men of War: Vietnam
Crusader Kings II
Dungeons

RPG

Diablo III
The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings
Neverwinter
Grim Dawn
Risen II
Dead State
Darkspore
Torchlight II
Avadon: The Black Fortress
Magicka

MMO

Star Wars: The Old Republic
World of Darkness
Warhammer 40.000: Dark Millennium
Guild Wars 2
Drakensang Online
Tera
Rift: Planes of Telara
Infinity: The Quest for Earth
Blackstar Chronicles
Jumpgate Evolution

Simulators

Microsoft Flight
DCS: A-10c Warthhog

Racing

rFactor 2
GTR Racing 2011
Trackmania 2

Puzzle/Casual

The Sims Medieval
Minecraft

Yeah....I don´t think so.

WhenCicadasCry

These games are shovelware that no one will buy, no one will hype, some sites won't review, and overall suck / not a quality title.

These games I accept as a quality game A-AA or an expansion or not sure if PC exclusive.

These games will be epic and compare to the games coming out for PS3, and are certain to score AAA.

..... :lol: Because Heroes of Might & Magic, a consistent AA franchise, Tropico (AA), rFactor, ya know, one of the most realistic racing sims around with a gamerankings score of 8.6,... Grim Dawn, a Diablo clone made by the devs behind Titan Quest, Jagged Alliance, DCS, and Firefall are not worth getting excited about.

End of Nations from the makers of Dune 2 and Command & Conquer.

Kings& Castles by Chris Taylor, the creator of Total Anihilllation, Dungeon Siege and Supreme Commander.

Ground Branch, a tactical shooter from the creators of Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon.

Dead State from ex-Troika guys, the makers of Arcanum, Temple of Elemental Evil and Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines.

People aren't interested in Torchlight II? What abour the 500.000 gamers who bought the first one? And Minecraft? The game sold more than 300.000 copies and it still in Alpha.

Shovelware? :lol:

-Killzone 3

-lbp2

-infamous 2

-the last guardian

-resistance 3

-ratchet & clank

-maybe UC3

These are just the popular ones, no need to name every single exclusive like what lems do. Compared to the 360 popular exclusive of 2011...

-Gears 3

-maybe forza 4

-none

and Ar tonelico 3

disgaea 4

yakuza 4

FF14

Sorcery

etc

tons of games agreed

3DS, PC, blablabla

(Will people stop quoting that huge list, It must have been posted 30 times per page :x)

2011 year of the Playstation 3 .... 8)

Recarnator

I don't know who won, but it's safe to say MS lost HARD

Shovelware? :lol:

RyuRanVII

[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

PC:

Action

Red Orchestra II: Heroes of Stalingrad
Contagion
E.Y.E.
Depth
Ground Branch
Firefall
Age of Chivalry
Primal Carnage

Strategy

Shogun 2: Total War
Stronghold III
End of Nations
Chris Taylor's Kings & Castles
Might and Magic: Heroes VI
Sword of the Stars II: The Lords of Winter
Age of Empires Online
Tropico 4
Cities in Motion
Jagged Alliance 2: Reloaded
Jagged Alliance 3
Warhammer 40.000: Dawn of War II - Retribution
Men of War: Vietnam
Crusader Kings II
Dungeons

RPG

Diablo III
The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings
Neverwinter
Grim Dawn
Risen II
Dead State
Darkspore
Torchlight II
Avadon: The Black Fortress
Magicka

MMO

Star Wars: The Old Republic
World of Darkness
Warhammer 40.000: Dark Millennium
Guild Wars 2
Drakensang Online
Tera
Rift: Planes of Telara
Infinity: The Quest for Earth
Blackstar Chronicles
Jumpgate Evolution

Simulators

Microsoft Flight
DCS: A-10c Warthhog

Racing

rFactor 2
GTR Racing 2011
Trackmania 2

Puzzle/Casual

The Sims Medieval
Minecraft

Yeah....I don´t think so.

WhenCicadasCry

These games are shovelware that no one will buy, no one will hype, some sites won't review, and overall suck / not a quality title.

These games I accept as a quality game A-AA or an expansion or not sure if PC exclusive.

These games will be epic and compare to the games coming out for PS3, and are certain to score AAA.

..... :lol: Because shovelware, a consistent AA franchise, shovelware(AA), shovelware, ya know, one of the most realistic racing sims around with a gamerankings score of 8.6,... shovelware, a Diablo clone made by the devs behind Titan Quest,shovelware,shovelware, Torchlight 2 and shovelware are not worth getting excited about.

Right.

[QUOTE="15strong"]

Why would I be mad? I have a pc. Every year for every platform this happens. Let's put every game we could ever think of when half of them will be delayed and the majority of them will be mediocre.

wirey87

not when the spreadsheet says that the Pc has the highest scoring exclusives of this gen

Really, all those MMOs and RTS games. Yeah......seems PC gets a free pass around here. RTS games are like a dime a dozen, how many can PC fanboys play a year:|

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"]

These games are shovelware that no one will buy, no one will hype, some sites won't review, and overall suck / not a quality title.

These games I accept as a quality game A-AA or an expansion or not sure if PC exclusive.

These games will be epic and compare to the games coming out for PS3, and are certain to score AAA.

RyuRanVII

..... :lol: Because Heroes of Might & Magic, a consistent AA franchise, Tropico (AA), rFactor, ya know, one of the most realistic racing sims around with a gamerankings score of 8.6,... Grim Dawn, a Diablo clone made by the devs behind Titan Quest, Jagged Alliance, DCS, and Firefall are not worth getting excited about.

End of Nations from the makers of Dune 2 and Command & Conquer.

Kings& Castles by Chris Taylor, the creator of Total Anihilllation, Dungeon Siege and Supreme Commander.

Ground Branch, a tactical shooter from the creators of Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon.

Dead State from ex-Troika guys, the makers of Arcanum, Temple of Elemental Evil and Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines.

People aren't interested in Torchlight II? What abour the 500.000 gamers who bought the first one? And Minecraft? The game sold more than 300.000 copies and it still in Alpha.

Shovelware? :lol:

Oh wow, I wasn't too sure about the rest, but Dune 2, Total Anihillation and Supreme Commander were awesome. :) And Vampire Bloodlines is one of my favorite RPGS in recent memory so I'll definitely be keeping my eye on Dead State, thanks for the heads up. ;)

[QUOTE="wirey87"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

Why would I be mad? I have a pc. Every year for every platform this happens. Let's put every game we could ever think of when half of them will be delayed and the majority of them will be mediocre.

1Stark1

not when the spreadsheet says that the Pc has the highest scoring exclusives of this gen

Really, all those MMOs and RTS games. Yeah......seems PC gets a free pass around here. RTS games are like a dime a dozen, how many can PC fanboys play a year:|

How many games with Mario featured in it can Wii fans play a year. I've only played 2 RTS this year, Starcraft 2 and Empire Total War. :roll: