Sony and MS appear DESPERATE in their failed attempts to keep up with Nintendo

We're not even 1 year into the console war and Sony is already looking to drop the price of their PS3 by $100 out of sheer desperation and MS is already looking at changing their focus to become more family oriented.... not to mention the fact that both are rumored to be trying to copy Nintendo with motion controls (Sony already did that with sixaxis)....

all you people do is sit around here and diss Nintendo while your hero's (Sony and MS) are just trying to copy Nintendo's methods of success and ride on their coat-tails like pitiful wannabe's

how sad.

Both the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 have better games. Wii is full of shovelware and you want to talk about marketing strategy.

I'm done with Super Paper Mario and Zelda, what's next?

Both the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 have better games. Wii is full of shovelware and you want to talk about sales.

I'm done with Super Paper Mario and Zelda, what's next?

TekkenMaster606

Funny how many times I heard about PS3 and X360 has better games, etc. Guess which situation Sony and Microsoft wanted to be, and has nothing to do with games.

I don't care what Sony and MS do, Wii will always be a gimmick with weak graphics and is not next gen.

Sheep can never escape the the cold hard truth.

Both the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 have better games. Wii is full of shovelware and you want to talk about marketing strategy.

I'm done with Super Paper Mario and Zelda, what's next?

TekkenMaster606

nice, kmfdm rocks!!

Nintendo started it by copying the Xbox for power :lol:

So far I'm regretting buying my Wii. Legend of Zelda was fun for a while and SuperPaper Mario was a crushing dissapointment. Wii has sunk to a very low standing in my books. I think the Wii is the console thats in need of a little catching up.

If you're basing this solely on sales, then you have a point.

But most of us don't buy games because it's popular. We like the games. And unfortunately, the Wii is lacking in that department.

All it has going for it is its low price and, with very few exceptions, mini-game collections.

I don't care what Sony and MS do, Wii will always be a gimmick with weak graphics and is not next gen.

Sheep can never escape the the cold hard truth.

Bullets4Brains

I think you're the one who can't escape the cold hard truth that MS and Sony are trying to be more and more like 'teh gimmicz' that nintendo has released.

We'll see. In the long run many analysts belive Wii will be short lived, unless they release an HD version of it. Trading_Zoner

The wii supports 1080p. I wont post a link to prove this to you because it is very old new that with the help of sony's technology, the wii supports HD.

DESPERATE and WEAK.

:lol: Anyway, if either MS or Sony work towards 'Family friendly titles' and mini-games I'm throwing my 360 in the garbage and setting my PS3 ablaze. Actually, I could leave my 360 on all night and it'd catch fire by itself but I digress.

The main focus for me has always been where the quality titles are going, which looks to be mainly the PS3+360. If others feel the same way they could simply be waiting to see if the 360 hardware gets reliable or for the PS3 to become slightly more affordable?

1 year in and I'm pretty sure you've already crowned Nintendo in your mind. P.S, you could at least wait for E3 before jumping to such conclusions. It's only a couple of days away.

If you're basing this solely on sales, then you have a point.

But most of us don't buy games because it's popular. We like the games. And unfortunately, the Wii is lacking in that department.

All it has going for it is its low price and, with very few exceptions, mini-game collections.

VoodooHak

harddcore sheep have a bright future with Metroid, SSBB, Final Fantsy CB, Dragon's Blade Wrath of Fire, Soul Calibur Legends, Disaster Day of Crises, Star Wars the Force Unleashed,Zack and Wiki (IGN is going NUTS over ZandW)

[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]We'll see. In the long run many analysts belive Wii will be short lived, unless they release an HD version of it. deluxemando

The wii supports 1080p. I wont post a link to prove this to you because it is very old new that with the help of sony's technology, the wii supports HD.

:lol:

Do you mind if I sig quote that?

Both the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 have better games. Wii is full of shovelware and you want to talk about marketing strategy.

I'm done with Super Paper Mario and Zelda, what's next?

TekkenMaster606

TekkenMaster606 swoops in for the quick ownage!

We'll see. In the long run many analysts belive Wii will be short lived, unless they release an HD version of it. Trading_Zoner

Analysts failed to pridict the amazing sales of the Wii in the first place... Up intill it's launch they predicted it would only sell 11 million over it's life time... XD

Woops. Looks like they aren't the all knowing beings we thought they were.

Families buy the Wii, play Wii Sports, and never buy any games for it. Yeah, nintendo is getting money for the console, but not a high % of thier console owners are actually buying games, therefore Wii games get less sales, and developers won't make games for them. The wii is dominating is console sales, but not so much in game sales. If im wrong, please tell me, I don't want to be a moron here.CraigJK

Developers wont make games anymore? You must be living under a rock..or at least not no SW very often...or any other gaming site. Don't you hear about MAJOR game devs like Namco, Bandai, SquareEnix all ditching the PS3 and 360 and switching loyalties to the wii to make some quality titles? It's because the wii is selling better that it's attracting more games from major devs. Even Ubisoft promised better quality games for the wii.

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

If you're basing this solely on sales, then you have a point.

But most of us don't buy games because it's popular. We like the games. And unfortunately, the Wii is lacking in that department.

All it has going for it is its low price and, with very few exceptions, mini-game collections.

deluxemando

harddcore sheep have a bright future with Metroid, SSBB, Final Fantsy CB, Dragon's Blade Wrath of Fire, Soul Calibur Legends, Disaster Day of Crises, Star Wars the Force Unleashed,Zack and Wiki (IGN is going NUTS over ZandW)

Is this another situation where I have to wait... just like the past 2 Nintendo consoles? The good games were there, but there were spread pretty thin.

I can play Zelda and Warioware only so much. The novelty's worn off. It's been seven months since launch and I need games.

[QUOTE="deluxemando"]

[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]We'll see. In the long run many analysts belive Wii will be short lived, unless they release an HD version of it. Trading_Zoner

The wii supports 1080p. I wont post a link to prove this to you because it is very old new that with the help of sony's technology, the wii supports HD.

:lol:

Do you mind if I sig quote that?

http://www.freewebs.com/wii1080p/

[QUOTE="deluxemando"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

If you're basing this solely on sales, then you have a point.

But most of us don't buy games because it's popular. We like the games. And unfortunately, the Wii is lacking in that department.

All it has going for it is its low price and, with very few exceptions, mini-game collections.

VoodooHak

harddcore sheep have a bright future with Metroid, SSBB, Final Fantsy CB, Dragon's Blade Wrath of Fire, Soul Calibur Legends, Disaster Day of Crises, Star Wars the Force Unleashed,Zack and Wiki (IGN is going NUTS over ZandW)

Is this another situation where I have to wait... just like the past 2 Nintendo consoles? The good games were there, but there were spread pretty thin.

I can play Zelda and Warioware only so much. The novelty's worn off. It's been seven months since launch and I need games.

The main problem is, big budget major 3rd party titles that are either exclusive or multiplatform are basically non-existant on the Wii. Chances are, if they did exist you'd probably want to destroy all evidence of that depending on how bad the port is. :p

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"][QUOTE="deluxemando"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

If you're basing this solely on sales, then you have a point.

But most of us don't buy games because it's popular. We like the games. And unfortunately, the Wii is lacking in that department.

All it has going for it is its low price and, with very few exceptions, mini-game collections.

inertk

harddcore sheep have a bright future with Metroid, SSBB, Final Fantsy CB, Dragon's Blade Wrath of Fire, Soul Calibur Legends, Disaster Day of Crises, Star Wars the Force Unleashed,Zack and Wiki (IGN is going NUTS over ZandW)

Is this another situation where I have to wait... just like the past 2 Nintendo consoles? The good games were there, but there were spread pretty thin.

I can play Zelda and Warioware only so much. The novelty's worn off. It's been seven months since launch and I need games.

The main problem is, big budget major 3rd party titles that are either exclusive or multiplatform are basically non-existant on the Wii. Chances are, if they did exist you'd probably want to destroy all evidence of that depending on how bad the port is. :p

for now. wait for the big titles i listed above, and wait for e3. both waits, are small ones.

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"][QUOTE="deluxemando"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

If you're basing this solely on sales, then you have a point.

But most of us don't buy games because it's popular. We like the games. And unfortunately, the Wii is lacking in that department.

All it has going for it is its low price and, with very few exceptions, mini-game collections.

inertk

harddcore sheep have a bright future with Metroid, SSBB, Final Fantsy CB, Dragon's Blade Wrath of Fire, Soul Calibur Legends, Disaster Day of Crises, Star Wars the Force Unleashed,Zack and Wiki (IGN is going NUTS over ZandW)

Is this another situation where I have to wait... just like the past 2 Nintendo consoles? The good games were there, but there were spread pretty thin.

I can play Zelda and Warioware only so much. The novelty's worn off. It's been seven months since launch and I need games.

The main problem is, big budget major 3rd party titles that are either exclusive or multiplatform are basically non-existant on the Wii. Chances are, if they did exist you'd probably want to destroy all evidence of that depending on how bad the port is. :p

The real problem too is that big 3rd party developers heavily invested to PS3 and X360 for years (it does not take months to makes games even for a Wii graphics), and counted the Wii out before it was released. Sure, the graphics for Wii is lower, but planning, presentation, design, gameplay is not easily make and it takes at least 1 year or so

The wii supports 1080p. I wont post a link to prove this to you because it is very old new that with the help of sony's technology, the wii supports HD.

deluxemando

Hahahaha! Legendary!!!

[QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"][QUOTE="deluxemando"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

If you're basing this solely on sales, then you have a point.

But most of us don't buy games because it's popular. We like the games. And unfortunately, the Wii is lacking in that department.

All it has going for it is its low price and, with very few exceptions, mini-game collections.

Zaistev_basic

harddcore sheep have a bright future with Metroid, SSBB, Final Fantsy CB, Dragon's Blade Wrath of Fire, Soul Calibur Legends, Disaster Day of Crises, Star Wars the Force Unleashed,Zack and Wiki (IGN is going NUTS over ZandW)

Is this another situation where I have to wait... just like the past 2 Nintendo consoles? The good games were there, but there were spread pretty thin.

I can play Zelda and Warioware only so much. The novelty's worn off. It's been seven months since launch and I need games.

The main problem is, big budget major 3rd party titles that are either exclusive or multiplatform are basically non-existant on the Wii. Chances are, if they did exist you'd probably want to destroy all evidence of that depending on how bad the port is. :p

The real problem too is that big 3rd party developers heavily invested to PS3 and X360 for years (it does not take months to makes games even for a Wii graphics), and counted the Wii out before it was released. Sure, the graphics for Wii is lower, but planning, presentation, design, gameplay is not easily make and it takes at least 1 year or so

I'm glad someone brought that up because it had slipped my mind. Game devs had predicted no one would buy into the wii because of it's..erm uniquness. But now that the wii is outselling both consoles, they are only NOW jumping on the wii bandwagon. Ubi put out some rushed titles like Red Steel and Raving Rabbids.and had later aplogized for their half baked games. They claimed they wanted to be the first to capatlize on the wii's new motion sensing tech, and so rushed games into the market. THey "promised" better gaming for sheep.

[QUOTE="deluxemando"]

The wii supports 1080p. I wont post a link to prove this to you because it is very old new that with the help of sony's technology, the wii supports HD.

drewtwo99

Hahahaha! Legendary!!!

I seem to be at a loss as to why people find that amusing...explain?

http://www.freewebs.com/wii1080p/

[QUOTE="drewtwo99"][QUOTE="deluxemando"]

The wii supports 1080p. I wont post a link to prove this to you because it is very old new that with the help of sony's technology, the wii supports HD.

deluxemando

Hahahaha! Legendary!!!

I seem to be at a loss as to why people find that amusing...explain?

Sorry, I didn't mean to be rude, but the Wii does not support 1080p. It's just funny, because it's not even close to supporting that resolution.

[QUOTE="deluxemando"][QUOTE="drewtwo99"][QUOTE="deluxemando"]

The wii supports 1080p. I wont post a link to prove this to you because it is very old new that with the help of sony's technology, the wii supports HD.

drewtwo99

Hahahaha! Legendary!!!

I seem to be at a loss as to why people find that amusing...explain?

Sorry, I didn't mean to be rude, but the Wii does not support 1080p. It's just funny, because it's not even close to supporting that resolution.

Can you please take a look at the link i posted 2 posts above this one.

[QUOTE="drewtwo99"][QUOTE="deluxemando"]

The wii supports 1080p. I wont post a link to prove this to you because it is very old new that with the help of sony's technology, the wii supports HD.

deluxemando

Hahahaha! Legendary!!!

I seem to be at a loss as to why people find that amusing...explain?

http://www.freewebs.com/wii1080p/

Ah! Well, slap me silly, I appologize for laughing at you. I had no idea! I guess I was out of the loop on this one. I accept ownage!

Edit: You didn't put that link in until after I had replied.

[QUOTE="Zaistev_basic"][QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"][QUOTE="deluxemando"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

If you're basing this solely on sales, then you have a point.

But most of us don't buy games because it's popular. We like the games. And unfortunately, the Wii is lacking in that department.

All it has going for it is its low price and, with very few exceptions, mini-game collections.

deluxemando

harddcore sheep have a bright future with Metroid, SSBB, Final Fantsy CB, Dragon's Blade Wrath of Fire, Soul Calibur Legends, Disaster Day of Crises, Star Wars the Force Unleashed,Zack and Wiki (IGN is going NUTS over ZandW)

Is this another situation where I have to wait... just like the past 2 Nintendo consoles? The good games were there, but there were spread pretty thin.

I can play Zelda and Warioware only so much. The novelty's worn off. It's been seven months since launch and I need games.

The main problem is, big budget major 3rd party titles that are either exclusive or multiplatform are basically non-existant on the Wii. Chances are, if they did exist you'd probably want to destroy all evidence of that depending on how bad the port is. :p

The real problem too is that big 3rd party developers heavily invested to PS3 and X360 for years (it does not take months to makes games even for a Wii graphics), and counted the Wii out before it was released. Sure, the graphics for Wii is lower, but planning, presentation, design, gameplay is not easily make and it takes at least 1 year or so

I'm glad someone brought that up because it had slipped my mind. Game devs had predicted no one would buy into the wii because of it's..erm uniquness. But now that the wii is outselling both consoles, they are only NOW jumping on the wii bandwagon. Ubi put out some rushed titles like Red Steel and Raving Rabbids.and had later aplogized for their half baked games. They claimed they wanted to be the first to capatlize on the wii's new motion sensing tech, and so rushed games into the market. THey "promised" better gaming for sheep.

Hey, I actually LIKE Raving Rabids. What I don't like is having to wait. They can apologize and come up with all the excuses they want. Fact of the matter is that I can't play promises. We're seven months into it and I have only a handful of games worth playing on the Wii.

Heck, I'll even take another mini-game compilation at this point.

Families buy the Wii, play Wii Sports, and never buy any games for it. Yeah, nintendo is getting money for the console, but not a high % of thier console owners are actually buying games, therefore Wii games get less sales, and developers won't make games for them. The wii is dominating is console sales, but not so much in game sales. If im wrong, please tell me, I don't want to be a moron here.CraigJK

[QUOTE="deluxemando"][QUOTE="drewtwo99"][QUOTE="deluxemando"]

The wii supports 1080p. I wont post a link to prove this to you because it is very old new that with the help of sony's technology, the wii supports HD.

drewtwo99

Hahahaha! Legendary!!!

I seem to be at a loss as to why people find that amusing...explain?

http://www.freewebs.com/wii1080p/

Ah! Well, slap me silly, I appologize for laughing at you. I had no idea! I guess I was out of the loop on this one. I accept ownage!

Edit: You didn't put that link in until after I had replied.

That's okay. Im still waiting for that guy with the red text to reply to the link because he, like you, found me post so amusing and said "Hey mind if I sig quote your post? :lol: " Then i posted the link and haven't seen him since. Sigh* At least you were man enough to come back.

[QUOTE="deluxemando"][QUOTE="Zaistev_basic"][QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"][QUOTE="deluxemando"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

If you're basing this solely on sales, then you have a point.

But most of us don't buy games because it's popular. We like the games. And unfortunately, the Wii is lacking in that department.

All it has going for it is its low price and, with very few exceptions, mini-game collections.

VoodooHak

harddcore sheep have a bright future with Metroid, SSBB, Final Fantsy CB, Dragon's Blade Wrath of Fire, Soul Calibur Legends, Disaster Day of Crises, Star Wars the Force Unleashed,Zack and Wiki (IGN is going NUTS over ZandW)

Is this another situation where I have to wait... just like the past 2 Nintendo consoles? The good games were there, but there were spread pretty thin.

I can play Zelda and Warioware only so much. The novelty's worn off. It's been seven months since launch and I need games.

The main problem is, big budget major 3rd party titles that are either exclusive or multiplatform are basically non-existant on the Wii. Chances are, if they did exist you'd probably want to destroy all evidence of that depending on how bad the port is. :p

The real problem too is that big 3rd party developers heavily invested to PS3 and X360 for years (it does not take months to makes games even for a Wii graphics), and counted the Wii out before it was released. Sure, the graphics for Wii is lower, but planning, presentation, design, gameplay is not easily make and it takes at least 1 year or so

I'm glad someone brought that up because it had slipped my mind. Game devs had predicted no one would buy into the wii because of it's..erm uniquness. But now that the wii is outselling both consoles, they are only NOW jumping on the wii bandwagon. Ubi put out some rushed titles like Red Steel and Raving Rabbids.and had later aplogized for their half baked games. They claimed they wanted to be the first to capatlize on the wii's new motion sensing tech, and so rushed games into the market. THey "promised" better gaming for sheep.

Hey, I actually LIKE Raving Rabids. What I don't like is having to wait. They can apologize and come up with all the excuses they want. Fact of the matter is that I can't play promises. We're seven months into it and I have only a handful of games worth playing on the Wii.

Heck, I'll even take another mini-game compilation at this point.

I understand what you mean, I too want to have games to play that is promise right here right now. But it is clear that it is not Nintendo's fault for it's lack of games but rather 3rd party developers who pre-judge system before it was released. It will be a good lesson for the 3rd party developers to not assume things they're way.

[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"][QUOTE="deluxemando"]

[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]We'll see. In the long run many analysts belive Wii will be short lived, unless they release an HD version of it. deluxemando

The wii supports 1080p. I wont post a link to prove this to you because it is very old new that with the help of sony's technology, the wii supports HD.

:lol:

Do you mind if I sig quote that?

http://www.freewebs.com/wii1080p/

Trading_Zoner did you sig quote me yet? BecauseI haven't heard from you since you decided to laugh at me. Did you take a look at the link yet. :roll:

Both the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 have better games. Wii is full of shovelware and you want to talk about marketing strategy.

I'm done with Super Paper Mario and Zelda, what's next?

TekkenMaster606

QFT, The Wii is very successful but the support for it SUCKS

[QUOTE="deluxemando"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"][QUOTE="deluxemando"]

[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]We'll see. In the long run many analysts belive Wii will be short lived, unless they release an HD version of it. deluxemando

The wii supports 1080p. I wont post a link to prove this to you because it is very old new that with the help of sony's technology, the wii supports HD.

:lol:

Do you mind if I sig quote that?

http://www.freewebs.com/wii1080p/

Trading_Zoner did you sig quote me yet? BecauseI haven't heard from you since you decided to laugh at me. Did you take a look at the link yet. :roll:

LOL trading_zoner you ACTUALLY sig quoted me LoL can you PLEASE come here PLEASE look at the link.

http://www.freewebs.com/wii1080p/

Now take out you're sig quote of me and replace it with "I GOT OWNED MY DELUXEMANDO..SHEEP RULE TLHE WORLD"

That's okay. Im still waiting for that guy with the red text to reply to the link because he, like you, found me post so amusing and said "Hey mind if I sig quote your post? :lol: " Then i posted the link and haven't seen him since. Sigh* At least you were man enough to come back.

deluxemando

Well I don't know if it's "man" enough, it is at the very least intelligent enough. However, I'm not a fanboy or a hater, so obviously when I'm wrong i don't mind accepting the fact that I was mistaken. I have a wii, and I like it. I really had no idea about this technology, I'm glad you shared it with me, and I'm glad I was wrong!

[QUOTE="deluxemando"][QUOTE="deluxemando"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"][QUOTE="deluxemando"]

[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]We'll see. In the long run many analysts belive Wii will be short lived, unless they release an HD version of it. deluxemando

The wii supports 1080p. I wont post a link to prove this to you because it is very old new that with the help of sony's technology, the wii supports HD.

:lol:

Do you mind if I sig quote that?

http://www.freewebs.com/wii1080p/

Trading_Zoner did you sig quote me yet? BecauseI haven't heard from you since you decided to laugh at me. Did you take a look at the link yet. :roll:

LOL trading_zoner you ACTUALLY sig quoted me LoL can you PLEASE come here PLEASE look at the link.

http://www.freewebs.com/wii1080p/

Now take out you're sig quote of me and replace it with "I GOT OWNED MY DELUXEMANDO..SHEEP RULE TLHE WORLD"

Relax dude...yeah he was wrong, yeah he put the quote in his sig like a bum, but at least don't make yourself look bummy with all the "WHERE AREYOU " stuff. Lol relaxx..he wont post back here so stop waiting...at least i acknowledge your ownage.

eople are buying wii cuz it's cheap, everyone knows this, they sure aren't buying it for the games cuz it really has none but a bunch of mini games, big deal, u can get zelda TP on gamebube which is just as good, same for re4, and I like the controller better than the wii controller for those games, I think its good nintendo is trying something a little different, but it seems all the wii controller is good for is party games and mini games , zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

people buy something cheap before whats expensive, if ps3 and 360 where 250 to 300 dollars no one would even look at the wii sorry but thats the truth

[QUOTE="drewtwo99"][QUOTE="deluxemando"][QUOTE="drewtwo99"][QUOTE="deluxemando"]

The wii supports 1080p. I wont post a link to prove this to you because it is very old new that with the help of sony's technology, the wii supports HD.

deluxemando

Hahahaha! Legendary!!!

I seem to be at a loss as to why people find that amusing...explain?

Sorry, I didn't mean to be rude, but the Wii does not support 1080p. It's just funny, because it's not even close to supporting that resolution.

Can you please take a look at the link i posted 2 posts above this one.

Can you really count that as the Wii doing 1080p though? Correct me if im wrong but isnt it just the TV upscaling the Wii's standard definition output up to HD.

[QUOTE="drewtwo99"][QUOTE="deluxemando"]

The wii supports 1080p. I wont post a link to prove this to you because it is very old new that with the help of sony's technology, the wii supports HD.

deluxemando

Hahahaha! Legendary!!!

I seem to be at a loss as to why people find that amusing...explain?

http://www.freewebs.com/wii1080p/

it doesn't matter what resolution it's at. the graphics still suck.

[QUOTE="CraigJK"]Families buy the Wii, play Wii Sports, and never buy any games for it. Yeah, nintendo is getting money for the console, but not a high % of thier console owners are actually buying games, therefore Wii games get less sales, and developers won't make games for them. The wii is dominating is console sales, but not so much in game sales. If im wrong, please tell me, I don't want to be a moron here.deluxemando

Developers wont make games anymore? You must be living under a rock..or at least not no SW very often...or any other gaming site. Don't you hear about MAJOR game devs like Namco, Bandai, SquareEnix all ditching the PS3 and 360 and switching loyalties to the wii to make some quality titles? It's because the wii is selling better that it's attracting more games from major devs. Even Ubisoft promised better quality games for the wii.

Bingo.